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Friday, June 03, 2005

Question for you

Avinash, who I am still to thank for insights delivered gratis a fortnight ago, when I was toying with the idea of starting this thing, has a comment relating to Indians in county cricket, that could spark an interesting little debate here.
It's interesting how the common assumption seems to be that if you go play county cricket, there's a good chance that you will get your touch back. I hope that will prove to be the case with Saurav, incidentally. Isn't it just as likely though, that a stint in county cricket can put you into a slump and/or worsen an already poor run? I'd be very interested to hear of instances where county cricket has forced a run of poor form on a player. Of course, the conditions are player friendly in that there is less pressure etc so more often than not, it would help more than hinder. Ganguly incidentally, has a third ball duck today.

I do have my own opinion on this, but I'd rather first hear from you guys, pro and con, yea or nay. The topic's open, guys, the floor's yours -- go for it.


  • Hello
    for any batsman getting runs and feeling the ball hit the middle of the bat is very important.
    To get that one needs to play a lot.
    county stint is good for ganguly as it helps him play in a place where he actually started off in a great way in his debut.
    That should boost his confidence and confidence can get him runs.He cannot play in india at this time as it is humanly not possible to play in that kind of heat..especially in May June and also he has many distractions which obviously will take precedence to his game..I am a big ganguly fan and I would be happy to see him back


    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 13:39  

  • I think it is more likely that you'll come out of a slump more than going deeper into it.
    The only way you can come out of a slump is by spending time in the middle. The problem with doing that when you play for India is that there is just too much pressure from the media and fans. Every mistake that you make gets amplified. That is the advantage with playing for a county, there is little media pressure, you are playing a lot more games so you will spend more time in the middle and more than anything the matches are not as big (compared to playing for India) you should be under less pressure.

    Also I think confidence helps you come out of a slump. So even if you spend time in the middle and score some runs against a not so great attack, the confidence still helps your footwork and shot making become more decisive.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 13:43  

  • it depends on what your previous form is like. if you are ina slump, it cant get any worse. In coutny cricket you play a lot of games, you are bound to score in one of those gmaes, you can get your confidence back. AS they says its a lot in mind when it comes to batting. Playing in county should be good for ganguly, laxman. Might not be a great thing for sehwag because he is already in a great touch with his confidence sky high.
    Regarding bolwing, if you are careful not to overwork yourself (This season India hasnt played a lot, so these county outings should do good for Bajji and Irfan).

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 14:01  

  • Prem,

    I know you have been using the word "tangential" ad nauseum, so I shall use another word -- "mmot". Avinash's observation is moot. Why do I say this?

    County cricket is no elixir for poor form nor, is it a curse for a person in good form. It is a season of cricket, it has its unique conditions, it has dynamics on and off the field, it has its own pressures and pleasures. I don't think it is a cure-all for people in poor form or a dead end for guys in good form. The observation is "moot" -- nothing "tangential" about it (he he).


    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 14:07  

  • I think a stint in county cricket helps those who take it seriously. As has been mentioned players get a lot of time out in the middle. Those who use it intelligently to get out of a slump or work out some aspect of their technique can benfit immensely. I think Dravid, Srinath and Kumble benefited from their stints in England. I don't think Ganguly previously, Yuvraj or Sehwag got as much out of it.

    By Blogger Gopalblog, at 14:17  

  • Country cricket is a knife that can but both ways. Dravid's purple patch started right after his stellar county season with Scotland. He scored several centuries at better than run-a-ball. It encouraged his strokeplay and gave him the confidence to play more strokes. However, Yuvraj's slide began with his poor performance that very season. Playing a swinging ball on green pitches can put doubts into your mind and clutter your play.

    Country cricket, on a whole though, should help a player get out of a slump. Getting back to playing cricket for the right reasons should help a player get his head straight. Slumps are more often than not a result of mental lapses than anything else. It would also help that as an international player, you are looked up to and you are facing bowlers who aren't always international standard.

    - Aby

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 14:21  

  • Ganguly seem's to have tried most of the possible methods to get out of slump. Playing domestic games (he scored a century against bdesh in last game !), not playing, resting away from focus, consulting experts, chaging his position and role in the batting order etc etc. So why not county also. How much worse can it get anyway ?

    By Blogger worma, at 15:37  

  • Hey Prem,

    Why should our Indian players go all the way to England to play county cricket? What makes the county cricket so special except for the pitch maybe? Cricket is no more a national game for the English.

    Why can't we think about something similar to county cricket in India? I remember sometime back BCCI was planning to bring in some international players and make them play in India. What happened ? Was it dumped ?

    I really do believe even our domestic cricketers are equally good or even better than County cricketers. Only thing that's lacking in our domestic cricket is professionalism, some backing from BCCI, sponsorship and media coverage. The end result, we hardly watch domestic games in India and our young and talented cricketers sit on the bench expecting to be called to represent India.

    We have more than a million people in India who want to play cricket at the highest level (I was one of them). If we had a system which encouraged at all levels (School & college) like they do here in USA for basketball, American footbal, and Baseball, I am sure we would have atleast 50 Tendulkars, Kumbles, Gangulys and Dravids. In a way these young talented players could be recognized and honoured and they could make it a profession.

    Let us know your thoughts.

    An ardent cricket fan.

    Shekhar Gujjar

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 16:08  

  • Young players like Pathan and Mongia have the most to gain. For the start they have to fend for themselves, develop new relationships, take on responsibility as a leading professional. They should benefit from the coaching tips and regular competitive cricket.

    Ganguly and H Singh come with a reputation and something to prove. The English public is looking to be entertained and mesmerised by the matchwinning abilities. It would be a mistake for Ganguly and H Singh to dismiss the competitive nature of the games and just try to gain form, or whatever that means.

    Total commitment will be rewarded in due course both in terms of success, progress in cricketing skills and also in the confidence bestowed by the teammates and beyond.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 17:30  

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