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Friday, June 10, 2005

Saurav does a Horatio

First, it was will he get a 100; next, will Glamorgan avoid an innings defeat... now, it's get it while the getting's good.

29 Comments:

  • Looks like we are seeing the Ganguly of old. Already upto 132 off 121. Hope I did not jinx it :-)

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 13:40  

  • Damn, I jinxed it :-(. Gone for 142

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 13:40  

  • Rahul Dravid is one of my favorite players and he's undoubtedly the #1 batsman of India right now. While a part of me want him to get the honor of leading India on a regular basis, the part fears to lose Rahul the bastman and God forbid, if that happens, India will start losing pretty much everything. I think a major part of Dada's dismal form is due to the pressure of captaincy and the team's fortune.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 13:42  

  • One swallow doesn't make a summer.
    But, I am really happy for Saurav. I am almost getting carried away with his knock and this outpouring of supprt. He has been India's best captain, but that shouldn't gaurantee him a place in the XI. After the Pakistan Test series, I thought it was time for Ganga to go. I am still of that opinion, I think it is time to make Dravid captain. Saurav should be retained in the team, but if he fails again, then he should be dropped. Scores in the Zimbabwe series shouldn't count. Only against real opponents.

    By Blogger nish_the_dish, at 14:05  

  • Of course this knock is against a 2nd rate opposition. What excites me is not the fact that SG has scored 142 runs, but the manner in which he has scored them. I think we are seeing the vintage SG after a long time. SG is a "rhythm player" - once he gets in to his rhythm, after a while it doesnt matter if the opposition is Kent or Australia. Remember Taunton, anybody?

    Cheers!

    By Anonymous SmartElec, at 14:17  

  • Well Smartalec, Kent was not that bad of a opposition either with South African international Hall playing for them and picking up 4 wickets. But I agree with the other part of your comments. On form, the bowling doesn't matter to Ganguly. Glad that it happened in a 4 day game. Otherwise, people would have said he was just slogging.

    By Anonymous Jai, at 14:24  

  • I am of the opinion that 11 best players should be chosen and then captain should be appointed. Ganguly, at least from the evidence of his form last season, barely deserved a place in the test team. If he gets back into form.. great, but on the current form, Kaif is clearly a better batsman than him at the test level.

    Another thing about Ganguly is: he is one of the worst fielders in the Indian team. Only nehra and Kumble come close. But Kumble is currently our best test bowler and deserves his place in the team just for his bowling. And I guess if your fielding is poor, it must be difficult for him to command better standards from others.

    If he gets back into form and improves his fielding, great. Because as a leader he might still be our best bet. But if he doesn't, then he needs to go.

    Prem, during Australia series, I read stories about seniors not being happy with ganguly because apparently he backed off from a couple of test matches. Is that true? Whats the real story there?

    -i

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 14:25  

  • Thanks to dada, now the entire country (India) is aware of a county called Glamorgan. Had the Brits showed this game live in India they would have raked in millions:-)

    i

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 14:33  

  • umm "i", u are giving too much credit to "dada"!

    By Blogger anantha, at 15:32  

  • What's all this hoopla and nonsense about ganguly getting runs. Rememeber, he got runs against bangladesh in a recent test. He still has no place in the test team based on his performance against pakistan. Kaif and Yuvraj are ahead of Ganguly for a spot in the test team.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 15:40  

  • Agree with anon. On the same logic, Dravid should have been dropped after his performance in the home series against Australia.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 15:51  

  • Agree with the second anon...Tendulkar should be dropped too for the dismal performance against Pakistan:-)

    By Anonymous babi, at 16:44  

  • Dada Rocks

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 16:56  

  • Aren't we going back to old days when the selection policeis were based on performance in last 2 innings ?

    By Blogger Shekhar Kale, at 17:01  

  • Aren't we going back to old days when the selection policeis were based on performance in last 2 innings ?

    By Blogger Shekhar Kale, at 17:01  

  • He is always the man on whom u can keep ur money on... This time its Glamorgan which took advantage of Dada.. I still see him lifting the 2007 world cup for India... If not for him today we couldnt have seen a team india which got used to the habbit of winning... He is the Man

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 17:26  

  • Yes Shekhar, that's why we should consider a man who has played 10 years of Intl. cricket scoring 30+ Intl. centuries in both forms of cricket. As they say......form is temporary but class is permanent.

    PS: I know your dig was at Ganguly, but the Ganguly fans can handle such digs. If you are against Dada, then this is the day for folks like you to manao matam.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 17:46  

  • It would be refreshing to see a couple of new faces in the next ODIs, with the kind of dash shown by Ganguly today. It would not hurt the team - provided Dravid is there.

    Ganguly can be great once in a while so this is not a surprise or unexpected. Can it lead to some consistency? I doubt it would be so easy.
    But... what if he works hard - selflessly with India's sake, puts up innings after innings, emerge as the captain with the best form, besting the likes of Chanderpaul, Inzamam, Ponting, then.. I shall mark this day as a great one for India and its chances for WC 2007.

    I still think India should prepare a few options just in case.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 17:51  

  • What is this stupid obsession with Gangs. For God's sake this fellow made a 100 against a county side..not some international match.

    My take is, Gangs coming into form is not good for Team India, because then Dalmiya will have an excuse to retain him as the captain. Gangs might be a good leader off the field with his rapport with Dalmiya and his passion for the team,but he is not a good captain on the field. Bad fielding, bad running between wickets, not very smart strategist. I think he contributed all he can to the team. It is time to move on.

    It is sad to see these hard core fans emotionally clinging onto Gangs.

    As far as captain goes, none of Sachin, Dravid or Gangs can fit the bill in either version of the game. My choice will be Anil Kumble for Tests and Mohd Kaif for one day matches. Unfortunately, in India unless you are a high profile cricketer, you will never be considered for captaincy. Kaif is supposed to be a brilliant captain.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 18:47  

  • What I am saying is that Captains are expected to perform. Currently the top performing captains are Chanderpaul, Inzimam, Ponting and Smith. Ganguly comes nowhere near their achievements.

    There is no stopping Ganguly from performing. Both Kaif and Y Singh can do the same via the ODIs and domestic FC, including Counties. None have been convincing.

    Kaif reminds me of Ashwell Prince of SA. He has become a regular within two series. He comes in five or six down, rotates the strike, hangs in there to the end. I also believe Kaif has to be technically sound - like Dravid- and average 40+ (see Ashwell Prince) to act as a good foil for the hitting from the other end. Kaif was successful because he was 'safe' but responded to situation- which meant scoring quickly at times. The best way of achieving success for Kaif would be to do very well in FC games.

    India cannot rely on the select few players to retain their best form. The need is to find a replacement for Ganguly at his best- ie. the dashing style, where the risks are minimised by the exquisite care taken over timing, placement,etc. Inspite of the hitting the player does not make mistakes. There are atleast one or two players who can fit the bill given the chance.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 20:21  

  • People Check your spellings otherwise the anonymous guys will call you incoherent. He just did that to one other poor guy in the previous postings

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 00:05  

  • One swallow dosent make a summer. Likewise, one inings from Dada dosent make him a great player, who is back to form. Of course, hearing the sweet sound of ball hitting the middle of the bat will do him a world of good.

    Hope he hears more of that sound and continues to hear that sound. Else, there are other players in the line, who are hearing that sweet sound and can continue to hear that sound, donning the Indian Colours

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 02:42  

  • Ask any one one to really analyze Dravid's game in any of the one day match he has played. He is only concerned of averages- not the scoring rate and the team's win- Yet some people have promoted him as a team man

    His first twenty to thirty balls will get him only 5-10 runs. His next thirty gets him 10 runs. Finally after batting for close to 90balls- Man - it is 15 overs- he gets 50with some hitting in the end. Mind you what ever be the state of the match- dravid has to get his half century or possible century.

    There are people like Ganguly, Yuvraj, Kaif etc to do some hard hitting with full risk. They get out with quick scoring often helping the run rate which the great Dravid sir would have plummetted by his slowest batting.

    But these Ganguly's, Sachins, Yuvrajs, particularly Sehwags do not have the knack of Dravid who very well know that what stands after two to three months after the match - in the selection time - is the number of runs scored and not how many balls taken for that runs to be scored.

    The memory of people is so short and DRAVID sir is the HERO.

    Lets remind of Geoffrey Boycott words......... " Dravid is never a match winner..... he is only a match saver"------- but unfortunately there are no ' draws' in a one day match. If the draws are inotrduced then Dravid can surely hope to become the Captain of India.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 02:56  

  • so many anons with such conflicting views :)

    dada was /is a great player and we are just hoping that he will get over his recent horrendous form ...

    "he is a good good player and be[sic] rest assured that he will come out firing on all cylinders soon" - Shastri

    By Blogger chatura, at 03:00  

  • For god sake do not say that DRAVID should be the captain of INDIAN ine day side. If dravid is not doing wicket keeping did he really deserve a place with his so called 'wall' batting. Leave the question of Ganguly aside..... but think for the sake of INDIA. DO NOT PROMOTE DRAVID AS INDIA ONE DAY CAPTAIN. DONT TAKE INDIA TO 1979'S WHEN GAVASKARS SCORED 36 IN 60 OVERS.

    DFRAVID IS NO DIFFERENT IN A ONE DAY MATCH.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 03:04  

  • Anonymous has no clue on cricket. Dravid brings stability to the side, Others play around him.When the hitters fall,he still is around to guide the tailenders and ensures that India puts up a decent total. Gone are the days when he could not pierce the field and the team would be put under pressure.Why don't we leave the past behind and look at his achievements. It is always good to sit at our desks and pass judgements on abilities of players. Words are completely different from action

    By Blogger Ravi, at 03:29  

  • MR. Ravi
    Thanks for one thing

    You agree that DRAVID was not a good player who can pierce the field placings to get runs and so scores slowly. One thing is settled


    Then the second.....

    ' when the hitters fail, he will guide the tailenders to put a decent total"


    Do you feel that the prime player of INDAI ( as U said ) will only guide the tail enders to a decent total and play by himself and lead from the front. Thereis nothing like a decent total in a one day match man.... only winning and loosing.... no draws. When U cant score the next thing is to loose. there is nothing as DECENT score and all bull shit.

    Take the clue from Australia. You have to win.. No decent total and alll stuff.

    U cannot pass statements from the desk -- i too agree... U acheive in the field ---- lead from the front. It is winning that matters.

    Dont say stuff like... forget the past... see the present etc.

    A thing applies the same for all..... either to Ganguly or to Dravid.


    Try to see the averages of Dravid ina an innings- intra innings

    What is the pressure the slow scoring rate puts on other players.

    when people like Yuvraj, Ganguly, Sehwag etc should all the time take risks scoring areial shots and put their career under microscope. Dravid on the other hand all the time will lend stbility. we do not want grand fathers in the team man.

    By Anonymous vijay kumar, at 04:22  

  • Great going! English wickets and conditions seem to bring the best out of Ganguly --- looks like this will be the saviour of his sagging fortunes with team India.

    On the same lines lets send Tendulkar to play first class cricket in australia. That should bring back some hunger of old and sledge tendulkar onto his performant adrenaline levels :)

    By Blogger gaurav, at 04:25  

  • Mr Vijay Kumar

    Pls understand that 'was' not a good player is different from 'is' not a good player. Obviously, it means that he has improved over the years. And i can't see where I have mentioned something about Dravid being a "prime player of INDAI( as U said )" quoted verbatim For a player who has played 252 oneday mathces, has scored 8124 runs, with 10 centuries and 59 50s and an average of 40.06 cannot be a 'bad' / 'average' player.We could do a further analysis to see which are the matches that India won on sheer performance of Dravid, if that is a parameter for comparison

    By Blogger Ravi, at 11:27  

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