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Sunday, August 07, 2005

India-Windies post

Good morning, guys... thanks for all the good wishes, on blog and in email... am better, some kind of viral fever... but between medication and rest, feeling good enough to sit up for today's game, which thanks to Lanka's capitulation appears to have become more crucial than anyone had thought.
Just woke up... will make myself coffee, breakfast, and be right back, before the game begins.

436 Comments:

  • Good Morning Prem.

    Hope you will feel better and better as the day goes by.

    So you think Indians *will* come into the match saying Havoc...?

    :)

    Shakeel

    By Blogger Shakeel Abedi, at 04:09  

  • Good to have you back, Prem. I just created my blogger account.

    India won the toss.

    Waiting for their decision and the squad to be announced.

    By Blogger Sidhant, at 04:09  

  • And what do you know, India to bat first -- which given the Premadasa's record of favoring teams winning the toss, is worth a good 30 runs before a ball has been bowled. Now to see the team composition -- actually, now to get my coffee and breakfast, too :-)

    By Blogger Prem Panicker, at 04:09  

  • Shakeel: I've been okay with the experimentation all along, but I would think at this stage of the contest, the management would need to say, right, we'll leave the rest of the fiddling for the Zimbabwe tour, now to tighten things up and win the tournament... not that it counts for much, but teams want to get that buzz of winning going for them. So hmm, yes, that plus the pitch, I'd think if not 'Unleash hell', RD will at the least want some calculated demolition from his team

    By Blogger Prem Panicker, at 04:11  

  • Morning, Prem.. Glad to know that you are feeling better..

    I have a feeling that SG and Dhoni are gonna open today.. what do you say about it?

    By Blogger Raju, at 04:14  

  • Definately SG will open but I think they would persist with Sehwag.

    It would be a nice wake up call for Sehwag if he is moved down the order though.

    By Blogger Sidhant, at 04:16  

  • Calculated demolition.... you nailed that Prem. Exactly the word the suits RD.

    Even with that I hope they play Kumble in with four more bowlers... Sigh!

    Shakeel

    By Blogger Shakeel Abedi, at 04:16  

  • I hope not. SG yes, but not Dhoni at the top... you don't want to chop and change established positions, what with all the other experimentation going on.

    By Blogger Prem Panicker, at 04:16  

  • Prem... someone had asked me in my blog..
    Any news about Sachin's recovery from his operation and his likely return ?

    By Blogger Raju, at 04:17  

  • Alternately, SA, Jyoti Yadav in and Kumble for one of the seamers should work... or a straight swap with Bajji, but on this track, two spin, two seam, one medium pace all rounder seems the best option

    By Blogger Prem Panicker, at 04:18  

  • Sidhant, everyone except RD,IP HS among the ones that played so far need a wake up call, at a good strong cuppa coffee to rid them of the stupor

    By Blogger Shakeel Abedi, at 04:18  

  • Cricinfo says Yuvraj, Zaheer and Kumble in for Raina, Balaji and Harbhajan.

    Not too happy about Yuvraj coming back. Will they never learn?

    By Blogger Sidhant, at 04:18  

  • Sidhant: Likewise. I would think Yadav where Yuvraj is, and you have close to the best team you could field (and if there is scope for a wish list here, I would bowl Zaheer first change, with the slightly older ball).

    By Blogger Prem Panicker, at 04:20  

  • Shiv Chanderpaul sitting out this game is a bit of a pity... he seemed to have decided to take the bit between his teeth, judging by the scorecard against Lanka... actually, need one of you guys who saw that game to tell me how he went. Real chameleon, Shiv... every now and again, he comes out to open, and suddenly plays a totally different game from the stodge he is known for

    By Blogger Prem Panicker, at 04:21  

  • /chanderpaul is injured and this lad S Joseph is the captain! what a blow to the windies before even the toss..

    By Blogger Raju, at 04:21  

  • Whats up with the team management. I am sure they are in the middle of it and they know best but some of their thinking baffles... really does.

    BTW Prem, I signed in and can't seem to shake off the "SA" bit, so if I don't sign my name at the bottom it SA fro Shakeel Abedi

    Smiles

    By Blogger Shakeel Abedi, at 04:21  

  • Howdy, Prem. Good to see you passed your fitness test. ;)

    By Blogger Vikram A., at 04:22  

  • Agreed.. it is quite unfair for Yadav not to get a single game on the entire tour.

    I think they should have rotated the squad, the newcomers particularly, every two matches. That way each one would get a chance to impress in two matches and against two different teams.

    If one of them fails two consecutive matches, give someone else a chance.

    What we got instead was Yuvraj more or less failing for about three matches and still coming back.

    By Blogger Sidhant, at 04:23  

  • Chandrapaul played his usual game Prem. There were far too many instances in the innings to make it a really convincing one. But a job done nonetheless.

    By Blogger Shakeel Abedi, at 04:24  

  • Vikram: *LOL* not really, am a bit like some Indian players, hiding an injury and playing anyways. :-) Doc was like, stay in bed for three days; how do I tell him what 'cricket' means?

    By Blogger Prem Panicker, at 04:24  

  • yeah shiv is a strange case...he's played blinders often enough to warrent being labelled a class batsman..but he seems to prefer the grimy, slimy grinder tag

    By Blogger riemann1, at 04:25  

  • Prem, time to pinch u now that you are feeln better....

    Did u see the Ashes scorecard?

    By Blogger Raju, at 04:26  

  • don't know abot zaheer over balaji..didnt look impresive at all in his first twp matches..while balaji was passable and seemed to be improving in his match

    By Blogger riemann1, at 04:27  

  • prem, why do you say that india will qualify even if they lose as long as they don't give away the bonus point? india loss wd mean they have just one win and WI would have had 2 wins - doesn't tht settle it?

    By Blogger Mock Turtle, at 04:27  

  • gp: just glanced at it about five minutes ago. :-) If you want to know how bad the fever was, consider this... from Friday, never checked the net. No mails, no scorecards, nothing... had a couple of friends come visiting and they told me a bit, but still clueless about what happened... will catch up on all that Monday, through the papers

    By Blogger Prem Panicker, at 04:27  

  • Even though Banks and Deonarine were impressive, the were given the wickets rather then getting them.

    By Blogger Shakeel Abedi, at 04:27  

  • mock: Yeah, realized that after I had posted that darn thing.

    By Blogger Prem Panicker, at 04:28  

  • post-match agianst sl..dravid promply blamed the batting and ganguly with equal alacrity blamed the bowling!

    By Blogger riemann1, at 04:28  

  • Prem:
    Good to see you back, sound and well.

    By Blogger Ruchir Joshi, at 04:29  

  • same old same old...I dont understand why Dravid and GC are afraid to play a fifth bowler

    By Blogger Raghu, at 04:29  

  • Told you I was out of touch! *g*

    By Blogger Prem Panicker, at 04:29  

  • Prem, GC, one would have thought would have been a big proponent of 6 / 5 combination. Is he not or is he bowing to pressure?

    By Blogger Shakeel Abedi, at 04:30  

  • Oh sorry Prem..

    I thought in US, one doesnt catch severe viral fevers....

    Thanks for having got up early still and giving us glorious company..
    Anyway, two surprise turn-arounds yesterday..

    By Blogger Raju, at 04:30  

  • sa: Doubt he will be pressured, this early in his tenure what is more. Wonder if he and RD are not sure of their batting yet... makes sense in a way with VS, SG, VVS, MK and YS all underperforming till date... making them reluctant to risk dropping a batsman for a bowler?

    By Blogger Prem Panicker, at 04:31  

  • Good to see Ganguly taking strike first. Its been a rare sight lately. Shows some measure of confidence.

    By Blogger Sidhant, at 04:33  

  • gp: right. actually, this one i wouldnt have missed even if i was on IV *L*

    By Blogger Prem Panicker, at 04:33  

  • Possibly Prem. It must be so.

    By Blogger Shakeel Abedi, at 04:34  

  • all three pacemen lefties again...

    What wrong did Balaji do to bring Zaheer back? His right-arm bowling adds that much more variety, I thought..

    By Blogger Raju, at 04:34  

  • the 11 picked today might reflect the manAgement's mindset..its all very well to give the new guys a go but when it comes to the big matches(which in India's book havs always been the "win or return with egg on face" kind) they'll go with the big boys..irrespective of form..

    By Blogger riemann1, at 04:35  

  • Looks like experimentation out of the

    By Blogger N, at 04:35  

  • I guess they've picked Yuvraj based on experience factor fo the crucial match...anyone can think of a better reason?

    By Blogger N, at 04:36  

  • Prem...your post for this blog says India can make it even if they loose...no they cant. WI would have won 2 and India 1 match. No bonus point comes into equation !

    By Blogger worma, at 04:36  

  • why can't leave the SELFISH "gang" out.... he is not just useless... but fatal to the performance of the team

    By Blogger Gaurav Aggarwal, at 04:37  

  • worma: :-) I know, my bad

    By Blogger Prem Panicker, at 04:37  

  • worma: u r right..... for some reason prem talks abt sri lanka's capitulation !!!

    By Blogger Gaurav Aggarwal, at 04:38  

  • And one more comment...I get the impression that whatever we may say, according to the team management, this is their strongest team...and best possible combination with 5 bowlers. Sachin will come and replace Lax. Simple.

    By Blogger worma, at 04:38  

  • sorry...without 5 bowlers.

    By Blogger worma, at 04:39  

  • worma: not sure they will jettison bajji from their preferred xi... will they?

    By Blogger Prem Panicker, at 04:39  

  • Prem, are you pro-Ganguly or anti-Ganguly? :)

    Let's hope you don't get any of that nonsense today.

    By Blogger Vikram A., at 04:39  

  • what the heck? It's as if he cant see where the darn stumps are

    By Blogger Prem Panicker, at 04:39  

  • oohh...yes not Kumble...Bhajji is their preferred spinner....right Prem :-)...this is the 'experiment' quota for this match :-)

    By Blogger worma, at 04:40  

  • vikram: *LOL* Right, prolly trigger a damn relapse

    By Blogger Prem Panicker, at 04:40  

  • Anyone who watched yesterday's game have a take on the pitch?

    By Blogger Prem Panicker, at 04:41  

  • Howz it looking today Prem ? ..the pitch ??..

    By Blogger worma, at 04:42  

  • worma: way too early to tell for me... te fact that the bowlers are bowling different lengths each ball doesnt help.

    By Blogger Prem Panicker, at 04:43  

  • yeah I realised that :-)

    By Blogger worma, at 04:44  

  • Fair comment, that... two batsmen not yet in form, they need to be looking to work the ball around, not wait for the four balls.

    By Blogger Prem Panicker, at 04:44  

  • btw did you have any chance of catching the ashes action yestday ? I'm sure that would have made u forget your fever for a while :-)

    By Blogger worma, at 04:45  

  • Prem:
    What score would be a safe one for india today?

    By Blogger Ruchir Joshi, at 04:45  

  • Prem, did you have a chance to see Warne's dismissal of Strauss in the second innings? End of the second day.

    By Blogger Vikram A., at 04:45  

  • One thing for sure, this track is not as obviously slow and low as the Dambulla ones. Bounce if you bang it in around the 8 yard mark... what you cant tell yet is if it is the sort of track that slows down as the game goes on; hard to think of a lankan track that won't do that, though

    By Blogger Prem Panicker, at 04:46  

  • Prem...

    Was watching the Ashes so I don't know how the pitch played yesterday.

    Still like Balaji ahead of Zaheer. Much better fielder and bats just as well.

    By Blogger Jiet, at 04:46  

  • Ruchir good point...prem I got a feeling that India would have to revise their strategy....its not Dambulla...so they cannot afford to be as cautious...and need a bigger total...

    By Blogger worma, at 04:46  

  • India's been really bad at taking singles right thru' this series

    By Blogger N, at 04:46  

  • Prem, again this qn. to u:

    Any news on Sachin's return?

    By Blogger Raju, at 04:46  

  • Sehwag 1 off 10, Ganguly 2 off 8. Not a very quick start, to say the least.

    By Blogger Vikram A., at 04:47  

  • But about spin Prem yestday Murali wasnt quite effective....just stopping the runs....and ofcourse Dilshan and Chandana came back to being regular half-bowlers.....I have a feeling that this is more of a belter pitch....we may not see big scores here because of the weaknesses that all 3 batting orders are carrying....

    By Blogger worma, at 04:48  

  • Hey Prem!!
    Hope u doing good :-)

    There is no sign of any new player today!! ..Why Why..we do keep going on with Laxman and Yuvraj..I dont really understand...Raina is as good fielder as Yuvraj..scoring 10-20 runs each game..which anyways Yuvraj singh scores..
    I do feel that Yuvraj singh has been given plenty of opportunity by now...time to kick him out..and bring his arogance down..no comments on laxman..

    Take care Prem!

    By Blogger Medium_Fast_LegSpin, at 04:48  

  • well it seemed like a slow seaming track with tennis ball bounce..and there was swing and turn available under lights..they flashed the collective SL wagonwheel well into their inings..and there were hardly any runs down the ground..suggests a slow track ..ironically exactly the kind jp yadav might have relished..becoause dwayne smith seamed it around nicely yesterday

    By Blogger riemann1, at 04:48  

  • Vikram: No... told you, spent the last couple days in bed, totally. :-)

    Ruchir: Dont have a real comfy take on the pitch yet, frankly, but the little I have seen, I doubt this is a 270+ track... if it is the sort that tends to slow down with the game, I would think 240 and RD is a happy chappie... which means being around 110 at the 25 over mark with not more than one wicket gone, ideally.

    Never mind what the good score is,,, not sure I am a fan of this sort of batting, both guys going at the ball a touch too hard, no finesse, no singles though there are areas you can stroke the ball into to rotate strike

    By Blogger Prem Panicker, at 04:48  

  • GC must teach indians to run between wickets hard. Its crucial on non-batting wickets. Lazy batsmen..

    By Blogger Raghu, at 04:49  

  • Wow, that's a shiner on Saurav's arm.

    By Blogger Vikram A., at 04:49  

  • What do you know. Both go fishing wide ones... welcome to the Indian top order...

    By Blogger Shakeel Abedi, at 04:49  

  • worma: which makes kumble, with accuracy more than turn, the logical choice over bajji, then. cool

    County season or no, SG still telegraphing that he doesnt like anything short into him, that is bad news

    By Blogger Prem Panicker, at 04:50  

  • Already SG is not playing well, now he has an excuse too...

    By Blogger Raghu, at 04:50  

  • Or look at it another way, this is a great length and line the Windies are bowling to SG.

    By Blogger Prem Panicker, at 04:50  

  • worma:
    Again a slow start today, and it does not look like Ganguly and Sehwag are in any hurry. I am thinking that if we score another 200-220, we will be loosing again.....Damn...Ganguly is having a nasty nasty burise !!!

    By Blogger Ruchir Joshi, at 04:50  

  • and sehwag is playing very well?

    By Blogger Mock Turtle, at 04:51  

  • what happened to Ganguly ??

    By Blogger worma, at 04:51  

  • coming off...nicely done..dont know why we have such losers on the team...

    By Blogger Raghu, at 04:51  

  • gp: not really, last week, the Rediff guys told me he is yet to get back into the nets, still in rehab phase, so SRT's comeback is going to take a while yet.

    By Blogger Prem Panicker, at 04:52  

  • How the hell can Manjrekar say this doesn't look serious. His damn arm swelled up.

    By Blogger Vikram A., at 04:52  

  • Ruchir....thing is...this WI side doesnt have batting strength/experience to survive a half-decent chase..most of the time. So we may get away with a low score also (although that Powell dude may just decide to come to party). But against SL (if we reach finals) this strategy would not work.

    By Blogger worma, at 04:52  

  • it is quite likely that one of these young wi batsmen, as out of depth as they have looked, could turn in a blinder today..

    By Blogger riemann1, at 04:53  

  • Great.. I hope this doesn't bring back Ganguly's short ball ghosts.

    By Blogger Sidhant, at 04:53  

  • vikram...i think batsmen need to face up to it...mohinder amarnath, gundappa viswanath etc. faced much fater quicks with guts..its a pity sg is such a sissy..

    By Blogger Raghu, at 04:54  

  • Never mind what this wicket is like, neither bowling nor wicket justify a acore of 6 in 4 with one batsman rendered hors d'combat

    By Blogger Prem Panicker, at 04:54  

  • Maybe this is actually a blessing in disguise for India - if Laxman can come out and rotate the strike with Sehwag.

    By Blogger Vikram A., at 04:54  

  • sidhant: when did they ever go away?

    By Blogger Prem Panicker, at 04:54  

  • Prem:
    Don't you think Dravid should have sent Yuvraj or Dhoni instead of VVS? Sehwag is unable to score and VVS will slow down even more. Someone like Dhoni would have taken more initiative in singles and boudaries. What do you think?

    By Blogger Ruchir Joshi, at 04:54  

  • typically these are the situations in which vvs has scored his oneday runs..coming in well within the 15 overs and kicking his innings with a flurry of boundaries

    By Blogger riemann1, at 04:54  

  • Hmm..seems they want to repeat the story of last match.....slow start..and at the end nothing to defend...
    give up!

    By Blogger Medium_Fast_LegSpin, at 04:55  

  • Laxman rotate the strike?

    I would prefer Dravid or Kaif coming in at this point, personally.

    By Blogger Sidhant, at 04:55  

  • geez, raghu, give it a rest.

    By Blogger Mock Turtle, at 04:55  

  • Viru lucky as hell.

    By Blogger Vikram A., at 04:55  

  • bowled off a no-ball

    By Blogger Jiet, at 04:55  

  • riemann dream on...vvs and sehwag are batting horribly...

    By Blogger Raghu, at 04:55  

  • Yeah Prem....I wrote in comments yestday...watching WI bat...that I hope Ind is watching and realise that Dambulla plans should go out of the window. It seems they didnt !

    By Blogger worma, at 04:55  

  • ruchir: i think RD just might have been reluctant to gamble... our batting hasn't exactly been top draw, so he prolly wants to not lose wickets early looking for quick runs

    *sigh* What the *heck* did Sehwag think he was doing there?

    By Blogger Prem Panicker, at 04:56  

  • Raghu: Sissy? He got bashed on the arm. Did you see that thing swell up?

    By Blogger Vikram A., at 04:56  

  • sidhant....you are so right ...Kaif at 3

    By Blogger Jiet, at 04:56  

  • Prem, glad to see u back to full fitness (though not top form, going by ur comment about India being able to make finals even if they lose without bonus point :)...u missed some action yesterday..SL getting beaten first time this series and Eng almost finishing the test match in 2 days..

    By Blogger Giri, at 04:57  

  • i thought sehwag must have heard a call for no ball from the umpire

    By Blogger max, at 04:57  

  • giri: *grin* Neither fit nor in form, but hey... couldnt miss this for the world. If SL had won yesterday, might had skipped this...

    By Blogger Prem Panicker, at 04:58  

  • Sehwag heard the call in his head "this ball goes to Dambulla"

    By Blogger Jiet, at 04:58  

  • vikram...i saw the swelling...but I think team interests before everything...you saw jaya bat in the first match against india i assume..he did not take it easy even though it could have been a serious injury..

    By Blogger Raghu, at 04:58  

  • VVS at his best with that leg side 4....now if only he can keep them coming...

    By Blogger Ruchir Joshi, at 04:58  

  • I am no expert on Cricket but Prem it does seem that most guys don't really work on their weaknesses here. Both seem to like they are hoping a couple good shots and all will fall in place.

    The only two I can think of who knew where they were going wrong and worked at elimanating the shots liek SRT in Austrlia refused to cover drive. Stood there and played a gem of an innings and RD we know does that...

    By Blogger Shakeel Abedi, at 04:59  

  • max: thanks to this silly front foot rule, it's been a long while since any batsman honestly heard the call and altered his shot to take advantage. By the time the umpire sees the front foot land, th e ball has been released, and at 83-ish mph, it's at the other end already

    By Blogger Prem Panicker, at 04:59  

  • raghu, jaya was batting when 5 wickets were down and this is when NO wicket is down - duh.

    By Blogger Mock Turtle, at 05:00  

  • raghu...I'm sure Ganguly would come out to bat if its possible for him to pick up the bat...and if our batting collapses. Give him a break...even Jaya went out for the moment.

    By Blogger worma, at 05:00  

  • Ramiz Raja said Tino Best has bowled "with heart" during the series. It would be cool if someone has bowled without one.

    By Blogger Vikram A., at 05:00  

  • sa: true enough... and not just our team either... very few these days seem to have that kind of dedication; funny part is, when you ask them, they say playing a game every other day gives them no "time" to work things out... makes you wonder what they do in the damn nets.

    By Blogger Prem Panicker, at 05:01  

  • mock..i bet you ganguly would not have had the guts if he had been in jaya's position..i guess he is not the only one with excuses...

    By Blogger Raghu, at 05:01  

  • raghu, ok. you made your point. now can we move on please?

    By Blogger Mock Turtle, at 05:02  

  • test

    By Blogger Ravi Agrawal, at 05:02  

  • Was the past four months of off-season not "time" enough? They should have played county like Ganguly, Pathan and Mongia.

    I guess Sehwag has a pretty packed schedule of handing out fashion awards and what not.

    By Blogger Sidhant, at 05:03  

  • Prem...'no ashes comments taken' going ? :-)

    By Blogger worma, at 05:03  

  • I have to say that the West Indies team has done pretty well. I think if the likes of Lara, Gayle and Sarwan enter this side then the team will be a handful at the World Cup.

    By Blogger Jiet, at 05:03  

  • all commentators on top form today..manjrekar made some sad joke about cameras being focussed or some such nonsense and srinath was so amused he cackled away rigth into the microphone! to think that you have sky spotrts ashes commentary on a neighboring channel!

    By Blogger riemann1, at 05:03  

  • maybe I am being too harsh, but guys, the reason I am upset with him is because he batted too slowly in the last match, got out at the wrong moment to a not so great ball and he starts this match as slowly and gets off the field...this is guy being paid in the topmost bracket..

    By Blogger Raghu, at 05:04  

  • Vikram: Probably, what Raja meant was that he had given his heart to Best and that Best was bowling with "that" heart. Raja has this tendency of making hidden double meaning comments. In one other match he said that one of the west indian bowlers like the ball "young and hard"....

    By Blogger Ruchir Joshi, at 05:04  

  • ok enough said on sg..I will move on as u suggest mock..

    By Blogger Raghu, at 05:05  

  • Ruchir: Hehe

    By Blogger Vikram A., at 05:05  

  • When it comes to guts, guys, remember the badgaed jaw of Kumble in NZ and.

    I stood adn saluted that day. A hero.

    By Blogger Shakeel Abedi, at 05:05  

  • And how do you propose we decide the outcome of such a stupid bet, Raghu?

    What you think Ganguly would've done in any particular situation has nothing to do with how he plays. SJ did what he did in the situation that he had to face (and it was very admirable, if a tad foolhardy of him to do that) but that doesn't (and shouldn't) mean that every other person is expected to do that all the time.

    Its one thing to criticize someone for things that he does wrong, quite another to just be pure vituperative. You can criticize ganguly all you want about his technique against short pitched bowling, but to go back because he had a swollen arm is not something to be criticized for.

    By Blogger Rahul, at 05:05  

  • *bandaged. sorry for typo there

    By Blogger Shakeel Abedi, at 05:06  

  • i dont think thats totally true....cos justin langer when out of aussie team developed his game ... played more shots, used feet to spinners - improved immensely - so too did michael vaughan in a v. similar way. But having said that, neither of them played much one-day cricket, so got the time to develop their games...

    By Blogger ajoy, at 05:06  

  • I lose sleep at night worrying that 20-20 will become a major international format.

    I mean look at how much trouble Sehwag has between altering his technique between Test matches and ODI's.

    By Blogger Sidhant, at 05:07  

  • Laxman out...fantastic

    By Blogger Jiet, at 05:07  

  • i dont think thats totally true....cos justin langer when out of aussie team developed his game ... played more shots, used feet to spinners - improved immensely - so too did michael vaughan in a v. similar way. But having said that, neither of them played much one-day cricket, so got the time to develop their games...

    By Blogger ajoy, at 05:07  

  • That is very sloppy, VVS.

    By Blogger Vikram A., at 05:07  

  • You know what's going to happen. Laxman will make his usual 20 or 30 odd runs and get out. So typical.

    By Blogger Jay Gohil, at 05:08  

  • rahul..the way you resolve is to point out one situation where gangualy played such a match winning innings..i guess you are not smart enough to see that...

    By Blogger Raghu, at 05:09  

  • Hi Prem,
    I am a big fan of your columns and blogs..Want to join the prem panix...

    I wanted to ask you about the composititon of the side..I can't understand why J P yadav has been cooling the heals ever since the series started...India has been seraching for an allrounder and a fith bolwer/a good allrounder would have won them both SL matches...I think JPY should have given priority over raina and rao because of his bowling abilities..Also I don't understand why YS haas been chosen today over rao and raina..Are not we supposed to try youngsters..

    By Blogger Ravi Agrawal, at 05:09  

  • sa makes a good point about kumble..thats the type of player we need more of..

    By Blogger Raghu, at 05:10  

  • Same old story repeating itself again....Indian player always say that they like to put the past behind them and move on....if only they would start "learning" from their past instead of brushing it under the carpet....hhhmmmmffff

    By Blogger Ruchir Joshi, at 05:11  

  • whos in?

    By Blogger ajoy, at 05:11  

  • And they still keep taking him. I know Prem is a big fan of lax, but Prem what use of class if it does not deliver. 8 out of 10 time the guy fails. At least by the "wow" standard he has created among his followers.

    By Blogger Shakeel Abedi, at 05:11  

  • dravid

    By Blogger Raghu, at 05:12  

  • time to soak up the pressure...

    By Blogger ajoy, at 05:12  

  • yeah am a huge admirer of kumble and he should be playing in every game for india. harbhajan's performance in the country was average to say the least. he is more of a momentum type of bowler....not entirely consistent.

    By Blogger Jay Gohil, at 05:12  

  • its true laxman is class, my friend argues it all the time...i agree, but he just doesn't seem suited to one-dayers...cant ignore that fact, even though he averaged 40 last year, more often than not he failed

    By Blogger ajoy, at 05:13  

  • Sehwag lbw

    By Blogger Jiet, at 05:13  

  • sa sure Lax is on the last thread. I dont see him coming back to the ODI team anytime soon. And he better pick up his game for the test matches, if this is any indication.

    Prem....are you there ? Wkts tumbling :-(...Sehwag gone now.

    By Blogger worma, at 05:13  

  • ha ha ha...another gone..

    By Blogger Raghu, at 05:13  

  • maybe we will get to see what stuff sg is made of

    By Blogger Raghu, at 05:14  

  • sa: I think this ODI series will be Laxman's career's last . No point continuing with him.....Sehwag gone now....wow...what a performance by him....

    By Blogger Ruchir Joshi, at 05:15  

  • yeh hai yuvi ki agni pariksha..ab aayegaa asli majaa

    By Blogger max, at 05:15  

  • i am becoming disheartened

    By Blogger ajoy, at 05:15  

  • raghu ganguly gone to hospital...so the doctor behind the x-ray machine would be checking what stuff he's made of :-)

    By Blogger worma, at 05:15  

  • I think this SL umpire is giving LBWs under pressure...he thinks for a long time and when he sees bowler continuing to appeal he gives out !!!!

    By Blogger Ruchir Joshi, at 05:15  

  • nice one worma...:). I am sure he will find a lot of nerves :)

    By Blogger Raghu, at 05:16  

  • Raghu, I hope these links help...

    http://tinyurl.com/dyv23

    http://tinyurl.com/74qqj

    http://www.zyra.org.uk/mental.htm

    By Blogger Rahul, at 05:17  

  • raghu :-)

    By Blogger worma, at 05:17  

  • ruchir, you might be right...but Sehwag was missing too much and after a certain number of misses umpires have a tendency to give one..

    By Blogger Raghu, at 05:18  

  • 21 for 2 in 9...excellent batting performance by india....

    By Blogger Ruchir Joshi, at 05:18  

  • Dravid looks frustrated...HATE to say it but I really wonder now about team politcs in this side

    By Blogger Jiet, at 05:18  

  • Ruchir...one thing's for sure...however much our batsmen may be out of form....this WI bowling lineup is quite good. They have what it takes to trouble top batsmen. And they have been doing it in ALL their innings in this tour.

    By Blogger worma, at 05:20  

  • Man, they are all out to bring Dravid down as a captain...

    :) :)

    By Blogger Shakeel Abedi, at 05:20  

  • What happened to Prem ??!!!!..I hope he's ok !

    By Blogger worma, at 05:20  

  • Rahul, you might have noticed that the last match winning innings came in 2002/2003 in Durban..I guess we have stopped paying him since then :) or as jiet implies, he might not like playing under dravid...

    By Blogger Raghu, at 05:21  

  • anybody knows about the nature of saurav's injury ? he gonna come back and bat ?

    By Blogger Anurag, at 05:21  

  • fear not guys...india tours zim next..all our overated heroes will fill their boots with runs and their avgs and ratings will go shooting back up

    By Blogger riemann1, at 05:21  

  • sa..its always the same with indians..bring down the guy who does the most for team success.. it was sachin earlier now dravid..

    By Blogger Raghu, at 05:22  

  • I think is India does reach the finals then Sehwag and Laxman should not be played. Both have given horrible performances. Instead, play Raina and Rao. They wont do any worse than these guys with bat and ball anyway. Plus they won't drop catches like Sehwag does.

    By Blogger Ruchir Joshi, at 05:22  

  • anurag.. I think the doctors have diagonized the injury as a bad case of "give me my captaincy back else I dont play' syndrome...

    By Blogger Raghu, at 05:23  

  • Why Yuvraj now?...Kaif was in better form...and Yuvi could've been useful with his big shots in the final overs, assuming he connects any.

    By Blogger N, at 05:23  

  • Raghu...I seem to remember his last match-winning innings in the Eng ODI series just before ICC trophy. He was in good touch...and was only one in our team scoring runs. After that Gang has played just the Pak ODI series...4 matches...where he was out of form. So what ? As Ganguly said, do you judge a long term achiever like him by just last 4 matches ?

    By Blogger worma, at 05:23  

  • wow - the FIRST boundary.

    By Blogger Mock Turtle, at 05:24  

  • While we are at it, bring in JPY too for Ganguly.

    By Blogger Shakeel Abedi, at 05:24  

  • looks like Rahul as captain is facing the same problems that Sachin did when he was captain..a team that is not performing...can be really frustrating..if Rahul is captain when Sachin comes back, be interesting to see how he responds..

    By Blogger Giri, at 05:24  

  • This could possibly be the worst One Day series Sehwag has ever played. 54 runs in 4 matches AND three dropped catches. In fact he has 0 catches and just 2-109 as far as bowling goes.

    By Blogger Sidhant, at 05:25  

  • worma:
    Even if we agree that this WI team has good bowlers, does it mean that the "best" batting line up of world in not good enough to take care of them? What good is Sehwag, Laxman, Yuvraj, Kaif, Dravid if they can't cope up with newcomers in WI team??

    By Blogger Ruchir Joshi, at 05:25  

  • isn't here anything else to talk about other that Ganguly? *AAARGH*

    By Blogger Mock Turtle, at 05:25  

  • Raghu: good one :) but seriuosly, is he alright ? we need him with 2 down inside the first few overs.

    By Blogger Anurag, at 05:25  

  • worma..u might be right..I was just reading off the link that Rahul gave me..Stats are good but a 30 or 40 when the team is in dire straits is so much more important than a 100 on a batting track when opening..I agree I am being too harsh on SG..We have worse players on our team...I will try not to diss him too much...

    By Blogger Raghu, at 05:26  

  • Does anyone know if any of the teams have used their 12th man in this series?

    By Blogger Vikram A., at 05:26  

  • Don’t worry guys. This is tailor made for a great captain’s knock. Come on Dravid…Carry this team on your shoulders once again.

    By Blogger Jay Gohil, at 05:26  

  • sorry mock..End of SG discussion from me..

    By Blogger Raghu, at 05:27  

  • Ruchir...I said this earlier also...in these times of experimentation...I would like to see one more..bring Sehwag down the order...4 or 5. That may suit him, as he seems to be struggling against pace...not even getting chance to play spin. Maybe that will help him get some runs...and get back his confidence. Its also imp from long term point of view...I hope this is not affecting him as a batsman...we need him for the Zim test matches....afterall we've struggled to win those also in the past. Its not going to be a cakewalk....esp if form indicators are anything to go by

    By Blogger worma, at 05:27  

  • Raghu,

    have a look at this..
    http://live.cricinfo.com/db/ARCHIVE/2004/OD_TOURNEYS/NWC/SCORECARDS/ENG_IND_NWC_ODI3_05SEP2004.html

    and this..
    http://live.cricinfo.com/db/ARCHIVE/2004/OD_TOURNEYS/ICCCT/SCORECARDS/IND_KENYA_ICCCT_ODI3_11SEP2004.html

    I guess they were much after your 2002/2003... how did you come up with that date anyhow?

    My point is not that SG deserves his place in this tame on the strength of this batting (which he actually seems to do considering that most others are woefully out of form too... but that is debatable..). The point is that he shouldn't be criticized for leaving the field for what might be a serious injury. Criticize him for slow batting (but then, don't forget to criticize Sehwag too... ) all you want... criticize him for seemingly selfish comments that have been attributed to him recently (which can be a misrepresentation of what he meant, but lets not go there...), but don't criticize him just because you he is Saurav Ganguly, the man everyone seems to love to hate...

    By Blogger Rahul, at 05:27  

  • Nice shot by Dravid!! Guess only he and Yuvraj are friends..:)

    By Blogger Raghu, at 05:27  

  • ok Rahul..point taken..will do..

    By Blogger Raghu, at 05:28  

  • ruchir...out batting lineup is not the 'best' in ODIs....never was. It was just good. And now with Sachin out, Ganguly trying to come back in, Yuv struggling...its not even 'good'

    Our batting lineup is still the 'best' in the world for test matches (atleast by the last form we saw). lets see what kind of form laxman, sehwag are in when they turn up for tests

    By Blogger worma, at 05:30  

  • Prem has been silenced by the powers that be at Blogger. Check out the latest post on the blog.

    By Blogger Vikram A., at 05:31  

  • Yuvi seems to be in some sort of form..Hope he continues on...I think Kumble might be matchwinner in these conditions..with the ball occassionally keeping low..

    By Blogger Raghu, at 05:31  

  • I have switched to the Ashes which is much more interesting.

    Hope Prem is ok. Has not said a word in a while.

    By Blogger Jiet, at 05:32  

  • Prem:
    Are you sleeping?

    By Blogger Ruchir Joshi, at 05:32  

  • Go Dravid Go..The man I admire most along with Kumble..team players..

    By Blogger Raghu, at 05:32  

  • PREM...why dont you login as regular user and comment ? Not as admin. try that out...if your machine is not auto logging u as admin.

    By Blogger worma, at 05:33  

  • ruchir..he might have dozed off.. fever tends to tire you out..

    By Blogger Raghu, at 05:33  

  • Lets prepare placards in support of Prem's freedom of expression (on his own blog, no less!) :P

    Blogger Murdabad!
    Prem Zindabad!
    Hamaari Maangein Poori Karo! :)

    By Blogger Rahul, at 05:34  

  • jiet..where are you watching the Ashes? on willow?

    By Blogger Raghu, at 05:34  

  • Good point worma...I have been thinking about that too for some time now...and the more I think of it, the more it makes sense that Sehwag should come down the order...first of all, he will not be exposed to the new ball where he is obviously struggling..also more gaps in the field..and we need some people to hit the big blows at the death, we have only Dhoni right now..also, when Sachin comes back, we can get back the highly successful opening pair of Sachin and Saurav together...what do u guys think ? Prem, where are u ??

    By Blogger Giri, at 05:35  

  • reghu:
    yeah...probably...

    By Blogger Ruchir Joshi, at 05:35  

  • rahul LOL...what 'maangein' do you have :-))

    By Blogger worma, at 05:35  

  • Raghu

    Yeah...don't have a life

    By Blogger Jiet, at 05:35  

  • After that one 4 Dravid has hit all the balls straight to the fielders....looks like he stil retians his accuracy of finding the fielders....not interested in rotating the strike...

    By Blogger Ruchir Joshi, at 05:36  

  • jiet :) I guess thats true of all of us to some extent..

    By Blogger Raghu, at 05:37  

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