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Thursday, September 22, 2005

Here's a switch

No change, they say, in England's tour plans despite bomb blasts in Lahore -- where England is scheduled to play one Test and one ODI. Good -- when I read the news headline, my first thought was, oh christ, stand by for a spate of 'we are closely monitoring the situation' and 'it is left to each player to decide whether to go' type stories.


  • Prem, thats because even the hypcrites inEngland know that terrorism is prevalent all over the world. What if Pak reciprocated (had the POMs fled) and raised questions on security in England :) Terrorism is never to be defended but sometimes, such uncivilized measures do humble people.

    By Blogger Toney, at 14:02  

  • The 'we are closely monitoring the situation' and 'it is left to each player to decide whether to go' statements will come Prem.. Just a matter of time :)

    By Blogger SHRI, at 14:04  

  • guess 7/7 had a lot ot do with the change in position of the pommies

    By Blogger JD, at 14:05  

  • I wonder if the English team's current strength has anything to do with the willingness to tour? I could imagine a weaker English team of the past, without as good a chance of victory, refusing to tour.

    By Blogger Sahir, at 14:11  

  • well...since Freddie can bravely play in the midst of raining bullets....I dont think this would be an issue for them at all :P

    By Blogger worma, at 14:11  

  • Maybe, just maybe, we will have the gumption to say no to London (remember London subway bombs?) when it's our turn to visit England. Or we could even "monitor the situation" before the inevitable "yes".

    By Blogger hjrsingh, at 14:11  

  • worma,

    By Blogger Sahir, at 14:13  

  • was it freddie himself who released the excerpts or was it some newspaper?

    By Blogger JD, at 14:15  

  • jd...I think the publishers are releasing promotional excerpts from his book...

    By Blogger worma, at 14:17  

  • worma
    was DD doing the telecast for that series in which case we can forget about getting any of the videotapes for verification.
    hope it was covered by espnstar

    By Blogger JD, at 14:21  

  • hey but what would you get in videotapes? that he was hit by something...well I think he may have been (Andrew Miller from cricinfo replied to an email of one of our regular commentors here saying that he has seen fotographs, someone else also said that he remembers the incidence about something hitting freddie...match stopping for a while...some discussion with captain and then continued)...so sure its not abnormal, and definitely deplorable, that he was hit by something....even a 'pellet' of an air pistol...who knows....but saying he was 'shot at' is stretching it too far.

    Someone also posted the cricinfo comm link of that match, and it said freddie was hit by something...

    As I said yesterday, it doesnt make sense for anyone to risk brining a gun, even an airpistol, in the stadium..and risk being caught(under a severe offence probably, esp because Advani, Sonia were there watching that match)..and all this just to shoot a pellet at Freddie??

    By Blogger worma, at 14:30  

  • even with all the security u cant discout couple of crazy folk tryign to do something although i admit his getting shot is stretching it too much.
    probably with so many cops around someone might have got hold of a pellet and thrown it at him, that would account for the pellet on the ground. moreover it had been hit by a bullet dont think he could have walked off the ground without anyone noticing it

    By Blogger JD, at 14:36  

  • what exactly did he say
    was it that he was shot at and the pellet hit him or did he imply that he got shot?

    By Blogger JD, at 14:40  

  • the IE headline says "

    "Pathan equals world record, India win"

    but there is nothing inside about the world record. any idea what they are talking about? most number of wickets in a 2 match series?

    By Blogger JD, at 14:46  

  • jd - yeah thats the record - Kumble had also got 21 wickets in a 2 match series v/s Pakistan..

    By Blogger Tiger, at 14:52  

  • also johny briggs of Eng (as cricinfo says...no idea against whom?)

    By Blogger worma, at 14:55  

  • worma - must be against OZ.. those days they only played against each other..

    By Blogger Tiger, at 15:01  

  • Johnny briggs got 21 wickets against SA ..guess when ? in 1888-89. Incredible that this has happened only thrice in so many years.

    By Blogger blueboy, at 15:09  

  • blueboy- On the contrary I feel the number of two test series is fewer than three and five test series. Hence so much gap between the records.

    By Blogger sachin, at 15:21  

  • sachin..but most of the series involving minnows are two tests only....so all the more chances of this happening...and yet hasn't happened so far..so..some 'extra' credit for that to Pathan ;-)

    By Blogger worma, at 15:23  

  • worma, amen to that. people give so much stick to the team that rhey some times forget to recognize/celebrate the smaller achievements.

    By Blogger blueboy, at 15:26  

  • blueboy, probably thats why Pathan gave that statment about media in his interview...did you read that?

    By Blogger worma, at 15:29  

  • Not sure where is everyone, just posting it here again!!

    Prem! IMHO, In India all through centuries , our one big failure has been this inability to build strong, durable political/administrative systems. Somehow our Social structures are very strong but we could never come up with a strong system say like Roman empire, mind you I am not talking about a unified,central govt., even within provinces, only accidental strong leadership gave stability for sometime. -:), if you are still with me, my point is, your take on BCCI AGM & also the other regulars here seem to concentrate on the results rather than on the process/system. Lets not worry about who wins the BCCI election drama, either Dalmiya or Pawar, it doesn't matter, if the system is corrupt, even good intentioned guys will be converted by the corrupted system.

    My point & hope is, media & fans focus more on the process we follow in electing the BCCI president(like president voting 4 times etc).

    I hope the court had ordered a clear/fair definition of election process in BCCI rather than appointing observers to foresee the process. We cannot carry on with observers for too long, eventually observers will become corrupt.

    One other thing is, I strongly object to this involvement of politicians in a purely sporting body. This political inteference is one of main reasons for our poor sporting performance. Whenever we object, lets object for a one man, one job principle as far as BCCI staffing is considered. We need full time professionals to run this sporting body. I think, a constitutionally more democratic BCCI will help in keeping the politicos out of the equation.

    In this regard, Prem, how about a Cricket followers club or something along the lines? a cric followers club to give voice to fans aspirations in terms of cricket administration. To keep away from mess, this body should purely concentrate on lobbying for process/administrative set up changes and not talk about individual players/selection etc. The point is, lobby for good,fair system and the system will take care of the performance. With enough members enrolled, with the help of a court law suits etc, we an make BCCI take note.

    What do you all say?

    By Blogger flute, at 15:33  

  • flute ,i cuncur especially about the observers and politicians

    By Blogger JD, at 15:36  

  • worma, Yes, I did read about pathan's statements after the match. He was pretty funny.

    By Blogger blueboy, at 15:44  

  • I think Sahir made a very valid point and would like to elaborate on it a little.

    English teams in the recent past were pretty weak, especially in the subcontinent. I remember while we were playing in Australia in 2003-04, England was in Sri Lanka and someone was comparing the two concurrent series and said how pathetic the English side was, scraping for a draw in every game while India and Australia were scrapping it out at 4.0 runs an over.

    I think knowing that they performed poorly in subcontinental conditions was a motive for players to opt out of touring India. Last time they came, a lot of their players chose not to come, ostensibly because of security concerns and such.

    And then what happened was that their team actually did pretty well in India. We won the three test series 1-0 but we were definately helped by significant parts of the last two tests being rained out. Nassir Hussain used Giles with his leg theory tactics etc., but a lot of the replacement players who were called up because some of the stars opted out did exceptionably well. I think that was the tour that made Hoggard if I'm not mistaken.

    Now that the English team is good and there is a lot of competition for places, it is unlikely anyone will opt out - they have a significant chance of losing their places in the team and ending their careers if they do so.

    By Blogger Sidhant, at 18:17  

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