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Tuesday, October 04, 2005

How do you spell 'kirkit'?

Raj Singh Dungarpur’s verbal cannon has not fired its last volley. Like two old ladies taking turns to swing their handbags at each other, he replies to Dalmiya’s allegations that leaking is actually Dugarpur’s forte, by a scathing remark on Dalmiya’s bad pronunciation.

"I am not surprised to see my friend Jagmohan Dalmiya tie himself in knots when he talks about pure cricket, and not its politics.
"He is invariably at a loss for words when he talks about cricket because he just doesn't know a thing about the game. No wonder, he pronounces it as 'kirkit' or 'krikate' and fortunately he doesn't have to spell it,"


Dungarpur is all public school and bristling aristocrat: the hallmarks of early Indian cricketing gentlemen. His outburst is amusing but disquieting. To misquote a quote from this page, “ What do they know of cricket, who only politics know?”

Meanwhile, Freddie Fever is hitting Melbourne in a big way. It makes Tendulkar Trend, after the Bradman revelations, seem tepid in contrast. Rahul Dravid was ignored completely. What obscurity poor Makhaya Ntini must be suffering!

But then Freddie is a special man. As Craig Gill , leader of the Barmy Army says, "OK, we've got this great rivalry but the Aussies know class when they see it -- and Freddie's got loads of it."

He sure does. And here's hoping we see more of that class in the following days.

43 Comments:

  • Sujata,
    seems like you too fell for the "classy" Freddie. Of course, AF will be classy anywhere in Aus purely for his love of beer.

    By Blogger Toney, at 15:41  

  • >>No wonder, he pronounces it as 'kirkit' or 'krikate' and fortunately he doesn't have to spell it<<

    One of the greatest Indian cricketer couldn't spell 'Cricket' either, but boy he could play cricket. Dungurpur will be the last man on the earth I would expect to tech cricket. :)

    By Blogger Oracle Guy, at 16:09  

  • On Freddie - I would like to see hom perfom in Pakistan (now that Simon Jones is not going). :)

    By Blogger Oracle Guy, at 16:10  

  • Sujata - r u in the US? If in India, what u doing at 1:30 in the night posting about useless idiots like RAj Singh? :)

    By Blogger Tiger, at 16:15  

  • If Dravid plays another matchwinning innings tonight, how much would public opinion swing further on making him the Indian skipper?

    By Blogger Gardhabh, at 16:35  

  • Sujata, can you post the link to Dung-arpur's comments? (The link you have points to Dalmiya's retort). I need some amusement today...

    By Blogger Multy, at 16:42  

  • multy- the link is posted

    By Blogger Sujata, at 17:00  

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    By Blogger Joe Powel, at 17:02  

  • toney, at the risk of incurring Mock turtles wrath, i admired Flinty even when he took off his shrit in India..

    By Blogger Sujata, at 17:02  

  • tiger- i'm in the US, and like multi, am starved for amusement.lol

    By Blogger Sujata, at 17:03  

  • sujata - ok.. that makes u normal then :)

    By Blogger Tiger, at 17:25  

  • sujata, are you blogging from work? watch your back!!

    By Blogger Ramesh, at 17:48  

  • ramesh - tks for the warning. It takes one to know one ;)

    By Blogger Sujata, at 17:58  

  • wow...

    http://www.webuser.co.uk/news/news.php?id=69277

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 18:21  

  • Does anyone know if sgstream is showing the super series? What is the code that we need to enter for the event?

    By Blogger Swami, at 18:31  

  • Try Sportingstreams

    By Blogger Lucky, at 18:57  

  • This Flintoff-mania really surprises me. All along, the Indian media is constantly accused of worshipping its cricketers. Now Flintoff, who has been nothing but a fat, butt-ugly bits-and-pieces cricketer all along, does well in one series and all of a sudden, he is jesus for all of England. I think the Australians are excited to see him as they are any really good cricketer, but to compare his popularity with Tendulkar is really silly. Tendulkar got standing ovations in Steve Waugh's last series, despite not really doing anything. I don't see any other current cricketer forcing someone of Waugh's stature to share the limelight. Flintoff's popularity might be restricted to the Brits living in Australia. If Flintoff is indeed more popular than Dravid in Australia, that really paints a very poor picture of their fans. Flintoff seems to be taking all this too seriously, though. We never heard a peep out of him all these years that he was playing the bits-and-pieces fatso, but now that he's won England one lousy series and all of a sudden doesn't know how to shut his trap. One day he is questioning Nasser Hussain's captaincy and the next he is putting down Ganguly. The first one is laughable to anyone who understands cricket and what Hussain has done for that team. The second is inaccurate in the least (going by the strong words of support for SG coming out of Glamorgan) and opportunistic at the worst. Until recently, Flintoff was nothing and Ganguly one of the elite bats in the game. That he decides to wait until now when their fortunes are reversed to put Ganguly down is really cheap.

    By Blogger Sudo Nima, at 19:07  

  • I entirely agree with you.This is a media hype!!!

    By Blogger Lucky, at 19:20  

  • Flint should be under tremendous pressure.Let wait for a couple of more hours .....!!

    By Blogger Lucky, at 19:22  

  • Prem,
    yes, that misquoting the CLR quote
    is quite applicable to Dungerpur first and some more.

    But if one indeed knows cricket, then it is the condition that you have know politics as well, if not to the fullest at least to some extent.

    By Blogger CrickTip, at 20:22  

  • "The second is inaccurate in the least (going by the strong words of support for SG coming out of Glamorgan) and opportunistic at the worst. Until recently, Flintoff was nothing and Ganguly one of the elite bats in the game. That he decides to wait until now when their fortunes are reversed to put Ganguly down is really cheap."

    Ganguly was an ass at Lancashire, this is old news. Ganguly was called a snob (yes, the brits called him snotty). Glamorgan is probably the worst team in England so they will kiss Ganguly's ass any day.


    "This Flintoff-mania really surprises me"

    A Flintoff
    filtered 20 1386 167 44.70 3 11 81 5/58 25.54 2 16 0

    These are stats over the last 20 matches (no "minnows"). So it has not been one series. Unless you feel that Gangs has been out of form "recently", you cannot say that Flintoff's success has been recent. Interestingly, batting has been better Mr.Elite could manage

    S.Ganguly
    filtered 20 947 144 33.82 3 4 2 1/14 70.50 0 15 0

    Perhaps there is something to the hype if this guy makes Gilchrist look silly for 5 tests.

    By Blogger Jiet, at 21:56  

  • Sorry for intruding but does anyone know if the super-series is being broadcast in the US? Is it Dish or Direct TV?
    Thanks.

    By Blogger sid, at 22:01  

  • On Dish!

    By Blogger Lucky, at 22:06  

  • "Glamorgan is probably the worst team in England so they will kiss Ganguly's ass any day"

    By the same logic, India is one of the worst teams in the world. So are you surprised that they still kiss up to him?

    By Blogger bouncer, at 22:10  

  • Jiet say :-
    >>>These are stats over the last 20 matches (no "minnows"). <<<

    And BD are no minnows, right ?? And who does WI have beside LARA ?


    >>>So it has not been one series. Unless you feel that Gangs has been out of form "recently", you cannot say that Flintoff's success has been recent. Interestingly, batting has been better Mr.Elite could manage <<<

    Duh..so you are comparing Flintoff's peak with Ganguly's worst phase to suit your argument. If you have been watching Flintoff then let me tell you this much of his success has been because of the pressure created by excellent bowling by simon jones and I would see how he performs in Pakistan when Simon Jones is not there.

    If you are going to criticizing Ganguly then do it but dont put up Bullshit arguments.

    Flintoff has been a failure for major part of his career. Even in last 2 years when he faced decent bowling he struggled, Vs. SA - 28, Vs. SL - 24, Vs. Aus - 22 (when Mcgrath Played), 70 when Mcgrath didn't play.

    He did have good outing with the ball though but as a batsman he is aminnow basher nothing more.

    By Blogger Oracle Guy, at 22:38  

  • this is the problem with us indians, we tend to think that the past matters more than the present, fact is andrew flintoff had a good outing against the aussies who had quite a strong bowling attack. It's out tendency to discuss the past rather than the present that SG is in the team.

    By Blogger Ruchi Shah, at 22:52  

  • >>>Ganguly was an ass at Lancashire, this is old news.<<<<

    Yeah just because he didn't put up with the typical imperialist bullshit, he becomes a snob, doesn't he ? In one of the county games he asked Artherton to carry his sweater or something and that probably hurt lot of imperialist egos.

    >>> Ganguly was called a snob (yes, the brits called him snotty). <<<

    British calling others makes a classic case of Pot calling the kettle black ?

    >>>Glamorgan is probably the worst team in England so they will kiss Ganguly's ass any day. <<<

    Yeah right, if someone praises Ganguly hor his hard work, they must be trying to kiss his ass for some reason or other. Really very fair argument. :rolleyes:

    PS:- before you accuse me of a ganguly fan, let me tell you that I want Ganguly to be dropped from the Indian team but just hate the way everyone has been trying to kick the guy when he is down.

    By Blogger Oracle Guy, at 23:06  

  • >>>this is the problem with us indians, we tend to think that the past matters more than the present, fact is andrew flintoff had a good outing against the aussies who had quite a strong bowling attack. It's out tendency to discuss the past rather than the present that SG is in the team. <<<

    Problem is with folks like you. Almost everyone(including me) agrees that Ganguly needs to be dropped. But they way people have been spewing venom against him,hurling abuses against him, insulting him and ridiculing him is really disgusting at best.

    But you got one thing right, this is the problems with Indians. If we can kill Gandhi after he devoted his life for our freedom, we can stoop to any level. Every day we show to the world how good we are at back stabbing (just the other day we back stabbed IRAN who has been one of our biggest allies in the middle east ).

    By Blogger Oracle Guy, at 23:13  

  • >>>fact is andrew flintoff had a good outing against the aussies who had quite a strong bowling attack. <<<

    Fact is - You just ignored the facts I posted. Australia didn't even have a decent attacks in the tests where flintoff scored. Warne alone isn't really a good attack.

    By Blogger Oracle Guy, at 23:17  

  • guys,
    i still dont see why giving freddie his due is wrong. he did play well in the ashes did he not?? and ofcourse he is going to be a huge attraction in aus right now given that he just took them apart. also how does SG come into this? flintoff also criticizes nasir hussai and hussain came out on bbc and said : yes he might have been a tad bit too harsh with his players but that was done with the sole interest of making his team better. no one can debate that the current success eng is seeing is in some part due to hussain's contributions in the past.
    also are we as a nation the only ones with a license to make heros out of cricketers? dhone cans a 140 and he becomes the next media pet, nehra gets a few wickets and he is a star( albeit one whose arse constantly is victimized by various niggles), balaji performs in one series and is considered a good bowler.
    lets not forget how we made our team out to be heros when they drew a series in australia. similarly why cant the brits make freddie a hero now??
    let him have his time in the spotlight. lets not be jelous becuase w elack a real all rounder like him in our team. who cares if he is being hailed as gods gift to cricket? its all short lived in our fickle minds anyways.

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 23:24  

  • i meant heroes.

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 23:27  

  • in the same manner the EU is also our ally, doesn't make sense when 8-10 of our allies are against a particular policy of Iran and we go against them.
    and let's not discuss Gandhi, perhaps you should question his role in the execution of Bhagat Singh, and his part in giving minorities special privelges.
    Fact is Ganguly is good for nothing, it's understandable when a person has the desire to admit his shortcomings and attempt to improve, but with Ganguly's case it's as though the fans have issues, and not him.

    By Blogger Ruchi Shah, at 23:30  

  • ok now lets start discounting englands performance by saying that the aussie atatck wasnt up to the mark. well im sorry but you play with what you have and if it not top notch thats your own fault(or the fault of random balls lying around causing you players to twist their ankles). besides me thinks lee, warne, and mcgrath for 3 matches couldnt exactly be called a pedestrian attack.
    ok and even if their attack was as shitty as oracle thinks. freddie also ripped out batsmen at crucial times. i guess we can discount that by saying the batsmen were out of form or that they couldnt gauge the bowling. wait my last sentence doesnt make sense in the given context for if it were true that means that freddie deserves the adulation he is now getting.
    also i havent heard freddie come out and say he is the next botham nor have i heard him asking for any praise.

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 23:33  

  • oracle guy>> the australian attack in the ashes way quite superior compared to the second string zimbabve attack, and if u take nz, then well apart from bond they had no other "star bowler", same with Sri Lanka and West Indies.

    By Blogger Ruchi Shah, at 23:36  

  • oracle,
    one usually waits for someone to own up to their fuck ups and take the necessary actions. SG's detractors wouldnt have been kicking Sg when he is way down had he done the right hing and quit the captaincy to concentrate on his batiing(or lack there of in recent times). after a while it gets frustrating when he acts like the team and indian cricket is his dads(or uncle JD's )personal Jahgir.

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 23:42  

  • Let's get this straight. No one is saying that Ganguly is a better player than Flintoff at present. I'm one of the many calling for SG's head. However, my comment was responding to 2 things -

    1. Flintoff-mania - The guy has had one good series (never mind all the British-manufactured hype about hte oldest rivalry etc., it's still ONE series). Even if you want to believe that the opposition that England have faced at home in their recent successful run is top-drawer, that still leaves his impressive run at one year, one season. Someone mentioned that the Flintoff was bigger than Tendulkar. Next we'll be saying Peterson is bigger than Bradman. The English media has hyped up this team to no end. And these are the same guys that criticize our journalists (among the very best in the world, IMHO) for hyping up our players. It's this hypocrisy that I find strange.

    2. Flintoff talking trash about Ganguly. The points I made were true. Glamorgan has stuck up for Ganguly and in the land of crazy jingoism that England is, one Englishman going against another, especially someone with Flintoff's current popularity would mean that they really believe it. Secondly it was cheap and opportunistic. If Flintoff really wanted to talk about Ganguly's habits, he ought to have done it then, but of course no one would pay any attention to a fat bits-and-pieces cricketer.

    I am not in favor of Ganguly continuing as Indian captain, but I'm damned if I let some lowly redneck put down the captain of my team.

    By Blogger Sudo Nima, at 03:45  

  • >>>I am not in favor of Ganguly continuing as Indian captain, but I'm damned if I let some lowly redneck put down the captain of my team.<<<

    I guess that makes my day and conveys my feeling on this matter in best possible way. Thanks Alvin.

    By Blogger Oracle Guy, at 11:14  

  • >>>the australian attack in the ashes way quite superior compared to the second string zimbabve attack,<<<

    So ?? Ganguly scored century against better bowlers in Australia (didn't he ?) Anyways the point was not that Ganguly's century was brilliant, but just that Flintoff's batting avg. in last 20 tests has been hugely inflated because he has been feasting on lowly WI attacks which are no better than Zimbabwe.


    >>>and if u take nz, then well apart from bond they had no other "star bowler", same with Sri Lanka and West Indies.<<<


    Atleast Ganguly faced Bond, Flintoff didn't get to face Bond and that probably explains his avg. against NZ. One Word - INFLATED.

    By Blogger Oracle Guy, at 11:18  

  • >>>one usually waits for someone to own up to their fuck ups and take the necessary actions. <<<

    What fock ups ?? There are five wisemen to do the job, If a player is not doing well, it is their job to drop the player. They (the selectors) are not doing their job for whatever reason.

    >>>SG's detractors wouldnt have been kicking Sg when he is way down had he done the right hing and quit the captaincy to concentrate on his batiing(or lack there of in recent times).<<<

    You are wrong, SG's detractors have always been itching to kick him, look at the things that has been said about him in the past (he refused to carry drinks, he came from quota system and blah blah blah). He lost 4 years (92-96) because of these focking detractors. Who is going to pay for those 4 years he missed out on ? And after all that you expect him to drop himself ?? - DREAM ON. I expect him to stay as long as the selctors are going to keep him. It is their job to drop/pick a captain. If they think he can lead then be it.

    >>> after a while it gets frustrating when he acts like the team and indian cricket is his dads(or uncle JD's )personal Jahgir.<<<

    Stop reading tabloids is all I can say. You know too little to make such statements. You cant prove any of that.

    By Blogger Oracle Guy, at 11:29  

  • >>>also are we as a nation the only ones with a license to make heros out of cricketers?<<<

    Then you missed out on what the poms said about James Anderson after he took a fifer against Pak in world cup.

    And also Dhoni, Nehra are all medicore players and I guess you should stop reading tabloids of India(and stick to BBC) who dont know what they are talking about.

    By Blogger Oracle Guy, at 11:31  

  • >>>also i havent heard freddie come out and say he is the next botham nor have i heard him asking for any praise.<<<

    And when did any Indian player declare himself as the next Sachin Tendulkar, Wasim Akram etc etc.

    If you are talking about Media's claims that then I guess you should check out English Media where they have already touted Flintoff as better than Botham.

    By Blogger Oracle Guy, at 11:33  

  • >>>in the same manner the EU is also our ally, doesn't make sense when 8-10 of our allies are against a particular policy of Iran and we go against them. <<<

    Well in that case dont do double speak and promise them to do something when you are going to do exact opposite. (read the rediff column) and no it's not 8-10 allies, it was just US pressure. And btw since when EU became our ally ??

    >>>and let's not discuss Gandhi, perhaps you should question his role in the execution of Bhagat Singh, <<<

    As much as I like Bhagat Singh ideologies, I couldn't have expected Gandhi to act differently. He preached non-violence and Shaheed-e-Azam (Bhagat Singh)threw a bomb in the assemble (whatever his intentions were) and it was act of violence. How would you feel if someone today goes into the Parliament and throws a bomb ? (Actually there was one attack on Indian Parliament recently and we already have a verdict and the guilty was given death sentence by SC, wasn't he ?)

    >>>and his part in giving minorities special privelges. <<<

    What about it ? Care to elaborate ?


    >>>Fact is Ganguly is good for nothing, it's understandable when a person has the desire to admit his shortcomings and attempt to improve, but with Ganguly's case it's as though the fans have issues, and not him. <<<

    Actually fans do have issues, they are too fickle minded and dont have patience at all. Tomorrow if Dravid becomes captain and India loses couple of games and dravid loses his form, these same fans will ask Ganguly to be recalled even as a non performing captain (Look out for public reaction on forums when Dravid led and lost).
    These are the same fans which not long ago attack Kaif's home because we lost a world cup match ? TBF I am glad that the selector's dont select team accoding to fan's opinion.
    I guess you didn't read Steve Waugh's recent column in the Hindu on this issue.

    By Blogger Oracle Guy, at 11:49  

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