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Wednesday, October 26, 2005

Lankan reaction

Trevor Chesterfield, in the Express, has the view from the Lankan side of the fence on the first ODI.
If you take a clinical look at the way India went about the decimation act, it was impressive. Tendulkar, relaxed and smiling, ripping into the Lankan bowling that honestly had no way of defending itself against such an onslaught, was impressive enough.
How do you curb such tactics? Certainly not by extending the powerplay option. This is where Atapattu made a calculated error. Dravid was quick to spot how to shut down the Sri Lanka run-rate when he brought on the spinners, Harbhajan and Murali Kartik.
That was smart thinking all right. Atapattu persisted with the medium-fast bowlers for far too long. It was asking for trouble as well, and waiting, it seemed, for the batsmen to lose patience. Sachin knows how to set targets, so does Dravid. But instead of shutting down Pathan, runs were fed to him.

Add to this, Lanka has been extremely reluctant to shed its patented gameplan of using a succession of slow-slower-slowest bowlers, in the mid overs, who bowl to fields set with a predominant bias one side or the other and choke the opposition. Works beautifully on Lankan pitches prepared so that the ball rarely comes above the knee roll, but it's a recipe for trouble on more conducive batting tracks -- and thus far, I've seen no sign of a Plan B.

87 Comments:

  • Importantly, I would like to see India executing Plans B and C and... When you look to dominate the opposition, there are times when batsmen wont impress as much. I wonder how the batting will change gears or how RD controls the rest of the game. Hopefully, there are good plans for these situations too.

    By Blogger Toney, at 18:46  

  • Their plan for Mohali could be to play Vaas - Zoysa and Fernando . If Vaas and Zoysa keep things tight at the start . Maharoof { though hez a good batsman } I thought was too slow , almost cannon fodder on true batting wickets . Murali , Dilshan, Arnold n Chandana to follow

    By Blogger Adi, at 18:50  

  • i like whats happening to the SL team. good media bashing will only bring more pressure and that can only be good for india. india has been on that side for a long time. this victory could just be the factor that turns the scales and india gets a few wins under the belt. the resultant boost in confidence is what india needsd at the moment

    By Blogger inoc, at 18:56  

  • well said chester. While watching when Pathan came 1st down, I was very sure to see Murali in action but it didnt happen.

    By Blogger J, at 18:57  

  • anyone else surprised Lasith Malinga isn't in the Sri Lankan squad? He bowls no balls, can be erratic, and can't bat, but I'm sure the Indian team fears Malinga much more than the spin bowlers they have now. Do you think that unlike the other Sri Lankan bowlers, Malinga could be much better abroad than at home? And if SL loses the next two games, do you think they might send Malinga to India to play the last 4 games?

    By Blogger roublen, at 19:00  

  • Do you guys think pathan is coming 1st down again? I would like to see how our batsmen adjust if we loose sachin early, hopefully it should give V.Rao a chance to prove himself.

    By Blogger rahul_fan, at 19:02  

  • Roublen:

    They are hiding Malinga for the Test Matches. I am sure the Indian batsmen will have trouble picking him up.

    Even when he was in the ODI team in Sri Lanka, they never played him against us. It is their surprise weapon, he'll be back for the Test matches.

    Nishanth

    By Blogger nish_the_dish, at 19:19  

  • malinga has been reserved for Ganguly in test matches..

    By Blogger Thanks Chappel, at 19:36  

  • but ganguly is not coming back, how can he come back after scoring a lowly hundred against a lowly attack. he has to prove himself over a period of time and again the trustof the public that his previous hundred was no fluke. only then can he come back in the side

    By Blogger rahul_fan, at 20:24  

  • Prem,, sorry to go off-topic, but just on the Sunny Gaze thread you said this :-

    "Hypocrisy -- something I have never been able to stomach."

    If that is the case how come you have been rooting for Greg "underarm" Chappel, isn't he a hypocrite too ?? While he was sending emails to his friends in media criticizing Ganguly's performance and blasting him, He was also giving interview to media and singing hossanas in praise of Ganguly and how he could see so many "positive signs" in his approach and all that BS.

    Same thing, what about guys in the media including the much respected Cricinfo, who have been recklessly feeding the troll by posting unfounded stories on their websites.

    But wait, GC's stock is high right now and you guys cant afford to speak against him and so why not "Behti Ganga me" wash your hands and get your revenge for every interview he refused to you guys. ;)

    By Blogger Oracle Guy, at 20:55  

  • no plan b?:
    it's been just ONE match!
    guys, take it easy...
    wait until at least 2 more matches.
    It's a 7 game series...
    Prem - relax a little- I know you are as excited as everyone else - India won a match after a long time.
    but still, keep the perspective!

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 21:20  

  • HEy agreed that there's so much dew on the ground and the ball gets soggy . How about trying to wipe / dry only one side of the ball ????? Do you guys thing such a tactic can help the ball swing more ? Wonder if anyone's ever tried something like that ?

    By Blogger Adi, at 21:28  

  • @adi:
    brilliant idea!
    make one side wet... and swing the ball sqaure!

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 21:32  

  • no even better will be you throw wet slippery balls at the lankans. Those Losers!

    By Blogger rahul_fan, at 21:35  

  • adi,
    Must say, that's a very intriguing idea. It would probably take quite a bit of skill to control the ball, but nothing some practice couldn't take care of. What about if you take a dry ball and dip it (on one side) in a small puddle in the outfield, if one is present. How would an old ball that is rough on one side and wet on the other react? My hunch is that thing would reverse like crazy. Why don't we try and use some "sweet saliva" while we're at it. :-)

    By Blogger Sahir, at 21:39  

  • Oracle: Seriously, what's with this? When Greg Chappell applied for the job, I wrote -- on this same forum, go check -- that I preferred Tom Moody for the job, but thought the BCCI would ultimately end up giving it to Greg Chappel. That is rooting?

    When the Ganguly episode broke, I consistently made one comment: I said that all aspects of the situation need to be inquired into. And that if Greg Chappell had lied about anything, he needed to be summarily sacked. That is rooting?

    What exactly is this 'rooting' I am supposed to have done, and where did I do it?

    I did say, when his candidacy was being discussed, that he seemed to have cricketing nous -- which was stating the obvious; why else would he have been short-listed? I said he appeared to have the credentials to coach -- which put me in company of Sunny Gavaskar, Ravi Shastri, and S Venkatraghavan. I also said -- where I differed with the three distinguished gentlemen named above -- that Moody would do the job better. That is rooting?

    So much for my not being able to 'afford' to speak out against GC because his stock is riding high. Dalmiya's stock, for instance, has been riding high for longer than I have been a cricket reporter, you mean I didn't speak out about him? SRT's stock was low, when I suggested that his daft captaincy in Australia had caused us to lose the first Test when we had it in control? His stock was low, when I suggested that we lost the Chennai Test to Pakistan only because of his stupid, totally unnecessary heave at Saqlain? Or Gavaskar -- his stock is particularly low today, which is why I am speaking out about him now?

    Oh, I forgot -- Cricinfo is backing GC. And that is my fault because why? Or do you mean that because a particular article cued me in to talk of hypocrisy, I should now come up with a comprehensive list of all who in my opinion are guilty of that sin? Where would you want me to start -- because no matter where, you can then turn around and say, oh, but you never said anything about *that* guy. Seriously, mate, this is daft.

    By Blogger Prem Panicker, at 21:57  

  • Beware of the wounded lions guys. I will not be surprised if SL came back strongly in Match-2.
    I dont care about SL's Plan B. I would be happier if they dont have Plan B. Frankly, I would like to see India's plan B for Match-2. This is, Ditch Agarkar, bring Murali Karthik in 11, use Gambhir as super sub to open in second inning and Sehwag to come 1 or 2 down...

    By Blogger greg2rescue, at 21:59  

  • yacrik: Uh oh, here on in, I will dot all is and cross all ts. Will do so now: Sri Lanka, I suggested, has made a fetish, almost, of its slower than slow middle-overs bowlers (and that is not just in this game, surely?). It has built much of its success around their ability to choke opposing batsmen on extremely slow tracks. When that doesn't work, especially when Lanka goes touring, it does not have a noticeable Plan B, was my thesis (incidentally, one I had made during India's trip to Lanka earlier this year, too -- when I pointed to the figures, home and away, of some of the bowlers and pointed out that they wouldn't do half as well in India).

    It has nothing to do with my excitement over one match (while on that, I love it when my team wins, and I am unapologetic about it; since when was that a negative?). Sri Lanka, in the 2000s, has played 57 matches at home; of these it has won 45, lost 10, and two have ended without result. That is a winning percentage of 82. Fantastic.

    In the same period, it has played 43 away from home; it has won 20 and lost 22, with one being a NR. Winning percentage, 48. Not so hot -- in fact, dramatically different, surely?

    *Hence* my comment about the lack of a visible Plan B, when the slow bowlers don't do the job for them.

    By Blogger Prem Panicker, at 22:04  

  • Also, honestly guys, do you think that JD & Co will be powerful enough to bring in SG after the 2nd ODI match ??? I am sure that he will have enough clout to come back for the tests, but, this ODI series ??? I hope not. God, I hope not...

    By Blogger greg2rescue, at 22:04  

  • adi: It's tried all the time :-) Frantically dry one side of the ball, and let a bit of dirt adhere to the wet side, to add weight and help the ball go the wrong way.

    By Blogger Prem Panicker, at 22:05  

  • adi: having said that, doesnt always seem to work. not sure why, takes an aerodynamics expert to explain that, I'd think. but it's something on these lines the guys try, when they rub sweat on one side; partly helps with the polishing, partly fractionally imbalances the weight of the two sides.

    By Blogger Prem Panicker, at 22:07  

  • Prem, If you give a good grassy pitch, I am sure Vaas, Fernando, Zoysa & Maharoof will also trouble our batsman. I guess, SL are also a little flat at flat tracks, but, mind you, they know how to win..If the score was < 300, I guess they might have even chased and won.

    By Blogger greg2rescue, at 22:08  

  • Talking about plan B .... if Sachin is batting like the way he was, plan C/D/E/F.... all fail! Anyways, I agree that it would have made the game move challenging.

    By Blogger chirayu, at 22:18  

  • greg: Oh sure, if there is a good grassy pitch, any bunch of decent fast bowlers will trouble our batsmen. No argument -- just that I don't see those pitches happening in India too often, which calls for a Plan B. As to the sub-300 scores, that is where the problem lies -- Lanka will have a problem, more times than not, keeping the scores down low because on flatter tracks, which is what they are likely to get, their seamers will come on relatively easy onto the bat, and the part timers they rely on cannot really contain. By the way, not intending to suggest that Lanka will be blanked in this series; merely, postulating that they will have a tough time duplicating the results they manage at home.
    India, incidentally, has an even worse record away from home during the same period: At home, 195 games, 104 wins to 85 defeats and a winning percentage of 55; away, 180 games, 61 wins and 108 defeats for a winning percentage, if you can call it that, of 36 per cent. So it is not like I am suggesting India is hot in the bowling department either -- just that in these conditions, Lanka has a problem.

    By Blogger Prem Panicker, at 22:18  

  • Dont wet your balls yet guys, hopefull if the team keeps winning and the guys play well enough then sourav would have to wait on the side lines be it ODI or tests. But if we loose a few matches or some of the guys in the team dont do that well thats when the DADA possey will be making all noises. Thats when the ball is wet on side and dry the other side and team India will once again be bowled by reverse swing of JD.

    By Blogger rahul_fan, at 22:21  

  • The best way to stop DADA from getting back into the team will be by organising a DADA ROKO( much like RASTO ROKO ) by the cricket loving people in INDIA.

    By Blogger rahul_fan, at 22:26  

  • prem. That is the problem. Why cant our curators prepare fast pitches. Is there a technical hitch ? or is it the nature of the soil & conditions in the country ?Or is this a board directive usually given to the curators ?

    Purely from a strategy point of view, we should be in a position to prepare fast pitches for teams like SL who are so good at milking spin and have better spinners than ours. Just like how we want to produce spin pitches for SA / Eng we should have some fastish pitches for teams like Pak / SL whoose batsmen are not as good in fast conditions.

    By Blogger greg2rescue, at 22:33  

  • rahul_fan, hope you are right, but, I somehow have a sneaking feeling that he will sneak in. No amount of DADA ROKO will help if JD & Co wins the election. I sincerely hope that the damn election is over soon. This one will Decide things for the near future and future future.

    By Blogger greg2rescue, at 22:35  

  • greg: No technical hitch, no soil problem. Just that the administration, and even the team, is reluctant to go that route, most times. I remember reading today that the pitch for the fourth game is supposed to be on the quick side, but the curator also says, if the team wants, I can damp it down by lopping off the grass. Happens more often than not, unfortunately -- watch, that pitch will be shorn of fire before the game.

    By Blogger Prem Panicker, at 22:36  

  • greg2rescue,
    agree about the need for fast pitches, although I;m not too sure if I would want to play on them against Pakistan. I would still prefer turners- the Pakistani batsmen are more susceptible to quality spin. While Kaneria is a bona fide threat, I feel he will do well on any surface since he is a bigger turner of the ball. But, Kumble and Harbhajan on a turmer can be lethal.

    By Blogger Sahir, at 22:38  

  • Hi Guys, was reading this articale of on rediff from Arjuna Ranatunga where he states this with repect to SL's preformace in the 1st match:
    They would need to put their indifference aside and think deep and hard about the matches ahead.
    Any insights on what those "indifference" could be...

    By Blogger raul kash, at 22:40  

  • Prem,
    Every now and then you may see some grass left on a subcontinental wicket, but you almost never see a hard and bouncy surface. Why is this? I definitely feel hard, true surfaces produce the best cricketers since they provide a little assistance for everybody (bounce for the seamers and spinners; ball comes on nicely for the batsman).

    By Blogger Sahir, at 22:42  

  • raul kash,
    Can't really figure out what the "indifference" could be Possibly just a misuse of the word by Ranatunga?

    By Blogger Sahir, at 22:44  

  • interesting to know that we are well capable of producing fast pitches but, do not for it because of few individual. Ganguly for one would have told all curators to shave everything off, but, RD...not sure if he is also thinking about that ploy..Believe me, spinning track worked in Match-1 because guys like Pathan & SRT simply dis-respected Murali & their other spinners and kept the momentum going. On another day, the story could be very different. Even guys like Dilshan will trouble our batsman on the same day their batsman milk Bhajji & karthik.

    On the same note...I want RD to use a devastating spinner option. Who else, SRT...not too often..just enough...With Ganguly SRT was always banished to the ropes and was never bowled enough, but, with RD, he is always in the thick of things...getting involved...talking to bowlers...very good sign...

    By Blogger greg2rescue, at 22:45  

  • sahir,pak batsman are not so good in fast pitches, but, you are right. Their pace bowlers may wreck more havoc than our bowlers.

    By Blogger greg2rescue, at 22:53  

  • greg2rescue
    Yeah, SRT ought to bowl more. Last season he developed a very difficult line to get away in the subcontinent on turning pitches-- around the wicket to the right-handers. I feel that line of attack could be especially effective against the South Africans. Don' mean to overlook the task at hand by looking ahead to the South Africans, but pitches like the one produces in Nagpur would be really nice against the Proteas. The South Africans will be missing Boje, and will probably play either Robin Peterson or Justin Ontong as the sole spinner. Would be extremely difficult for them if they has to play all matches on pitches like the one yesterday (plenty of turn available for the spinners, with almost nothing there for the seamers).

    By Blogger Sahir, at 22:56  

  • Prem,

    if making faster and bouncy pitches was so easy, than why the hell cant we get our players to practice on such tracks before we ever leave for an overseas tour like Aus or Eng where were are almost certain to have such conditons?
    Is it just that our adminstrator, coaches and support staff forget about it or does nobody care?
    Finally why the hell do we need elections every freakin year in the BBCI

    By Blogger rahul_fan, at 22:58  

  • Sahir, The same round-the-wicket line to left handers also worked wonders. He was bowling off-spin and getting wickets with the arm bowl. awesome stuff....

    Also, I for one like SA to rot in spinning pitches 0-5. I hope the administrators are strategizing these things.

    By Blogger greg2rescue, at 23:02  

  • sahir & rahul: Because we don't want fast wickets. Just one instance will do to prove we can make them. At the MRF Academy, they have three types of wickets. One is the typical subcontinental heart-breaker. The other is a more well rounded wicket -- good bounce and carry, but even, the sort that comes on to the bat nicely. And the third always is a blazing fast track, among the fastest in the world. And it is all done with local soil and know how.
    Basically, the administration for all the hype hasn't flat out instructed curators and host grounds to prepare fast tracks -- they can, if they are told to; time after time groundsmen I have spoken to have told of administrators, and even captains, who have asked for pitches to be slowed down.
    Why do we need annual elections? God knows, mate -- the bcci constitution is a national secret; easier to get plans of our nuclear installations.

    By Blogger Prem Panicker, at 23:06  

  • rahul_fan,
    exactly my thoughts regarding fast tracks. at least why cant they leave em fast for the domestic matches...Let the real talents emerge.. today all our domestic batsman are so good in sub-continent conditions, but, pathetic on good fast pitches when they break into the team for overseas tours. Also, our spinners need to practice on fast pitches to see what they can do....

    P.s :- The election this year is a good thing. JD faction needs a kick in the butt and they are going to get it...

    By Blogger greg2rescue, at 23:06  

  • Prem, good info & insight. This means that if the coach wants a fast pitch for a home tour, he can get it provided he can convince the captain and admin...

    By Blogger greg2rescue, at 23:09  

  • Prem, I think that MRF academy should not only be a good practice/training ground for bowlers, but, also to emerging batsman. do you think our batsman visit there to face some budding & experienced fast bowlers ?

    By Blogger greg2rescue, at 23:12  

  • Prem

    Do you think the way the nagpur wicket behaved in the second half , had we chased , he sri lankan part-timers would have managed to strangle our batting line up ?

    By Blogger Adi, at 23:12  

  • adi...exactly my worry...time (rest of the series) will tell.. Spin-friendly track will not work consistently with SL...

    By Blogger greg2rescue, at 23:14  

  • Prem

    Who in India has the power to turn this dummy organisation into one that is more professional and more transparent? Why is it allowed to stay in such a sorry state, isnt it a shame on us and doesnt it put the whole country in BAD LIGHT?
    I am sure their constituion was written way back in the 1900's by those english ppl who had never been introduced to corporate world. who in INDIA has the balls to turn this murky power hungry and self destructive entity into a corporate organisation like the NBA or cricket australia?

    By Blogger rahul_fan, at 23:17  

  • I dont think we should read too much into game 1 .

    Here's my theory . Sometimes when you bat first , if things go your way entirely and you can post a score impossible to chase , like we made 356 against Pak and won , but we were easily proved the inferior team in that series !

    Last year aganst Pak we won the first two games bating first . We couldnt beat them in any match while chasing !

    p.s. I think this thread was a cricket strategy one for the next game n the series maybe . why the discussion on bcci politics ? Ofcourse I dont want to kill anyone's freedom of speech .

    By Blogger Adi, at 23:20  

  • prem, is there a way to access the gist of the board's constitution. Also, what the hell does that "Board of Control" in BCCI mean ? Does this mean that they have the sole control for cricket in India like some government. I this is indeed like some government, cant the constitution be amended ?

    By Blogger greg2rescue, at 23:21  

  • Yacrik said...
    no plan b?:
    it's been just ONE match!
    guys, take it easy...
    wait until at least 2 more matches.
    It's a 7 game series...
    Prem - relax a little- I know you are as excited as everyone else - India won a match after a long time.
    but still, keep the perspective!

    Guys,

    A small request, can you all please avoid saying chill, relax etc.., it is a bit condescending in most contexts. Have we ever seen Prem write words like chill, I don't think so.
    With that being said this is the most decent blog I have come across, hence the greater expectation.

    Thanks.

    By Blogger krish, at 23:22  

  • adi...as much as we hate it...every time we discuss strategies and cricket, the question, why the hell we dont do things the right way pops up. The finger then immediately and rightly point to bcci...

    By Blogger greg2rescue, at 23:23  

  • adi,

    good point..........let not go away on a tangent here..........lets come back to cricket.

    you were saying something about pak series right?.......we didnt win that cuz we played that series with only 10 players dude!......dont you remember DADA was just a skipper, he didnt contribute for the teams cause. Thats why we lost.

    By Blogger rahul_fan, at 23:25  

  • Dude rahul_fan

    What you are saying is not true.

    We played with 10, but the opposition had 12.
    Dada was "honorary" member of the Pak side (in true BCCI tradition)

    By Blogger Bala, at 23:29  

  • rahul, we were not playing with 10 players, it was maybe 9 or 8. Usually, with Dada there is always 1 or 2 for the non-performer gang...Zaheer, etc.

    By Blogger greg2rescue, at 23:30  

  • ha..ha...this has become a dada bashing carnival again..anyway, I sincerely hope that making 100 in an obscure 4-day match does not cut it with the selectors. Even if selectors (JD) shove ganguly down the teams throat, he should not be in the 12....I hope team management is strong enough.

    By Blogger greg2rescue, at 23:34  

  • What do you guys think will Atapattu do in Mohali should he win the toss ?

    Will he bat , considering what the Indian batting did in Nagpur , he'd rather set a target

    or will he calmly push nagpur aside , look at recent challenger results and decide to field ?

    By Blogger Adi, at 23:34  

  • Adi, he will bat...Not sure that these guys are reading too much from challenger series.

    I think either way, India should bowl first in the next match...

    By Blogger greg2rescue, at 23:35  

  • Very interesting to hear about the super fast wicket at MRF. I simply don't understand why fast pitches aren't eased into play in India. Start off by using them in domestic cricket, then in internationals against teams susceptible to pace-- Sri Lanka, Zimbabwe, and Bangladesh. There may be some hiccups, but what our latest tour down under showed was how good our batsmen can be once they get used to the extra bounce. The bounce is high, but true, and once our batsmen adjust, they could thrive on such surfaces. Meanwhile, opposing nations could find it difficult to adjust (of course don't use them against Australia, England, and South Africa). Hard surfaces also produce the most entertaining cricket-- generally a high run rate. This ought to mean more viewers, advertisers, and money-- would expect the BCCI to be all over this. Then again, this is the same BCCI that continues to lose out on millions of dollars by awarding the rights to Prasar Bharati.

    By Blogger Sahir, at 23:35  

  • GREG: the board doesn't make free with the constitution; i tried during the seven years i was doing cricket reporting regularly, without getting hold of a copy. they are autonomous, and ergo, they control the game, like it or not

    is nearing midnight, folks -- i need some sleep, more so given the match tomorrow night. adios all, be good. :-)

    By Blogger Prem Panicker, at 23:36  

  • greg,

    i wouldnt put zaheer in there with DADA. Dada has reached a special level in non-performance, that now he is eligible for the best ZERO-PERFORMANCE skipper award!

    Poor old Zaheer tries hard on the field, but sometiems his appreciation of the zero performance skipper far exceeds his own performance, and thats the only hitch GC has been tryin to correct.

    The sooner Zahher realises that the sooner he can get back in the team.

    By Blogger rahul_fan, at 23:36  

  • Greg2Rescue , Well i want that to happen , so i dont need to stay awake all night ;) . just get up at 6 am n watch the indian innings ;) he he he

    By Blogger Adi, at 23:37  

  • thanks prem..have a good night...hopefully a good match tomorrow night...

    By Blogger greg2rescue, at 23:37  

  • adi, me too..but, the problem is even if it is a red-eye, I cannot miss a ball. I am sure eventually you will also be up at midnight...good luck dude...I am signing off...

    By Blogger greg2rescue, at 23:39  

  • Also with the Duleep matches going on , it will be interesting to see how VRV singh performs , He may just get a lookin just to hurry the Lankans up a bit !
    What do you guys think ?

    By Blogger Adi, at 23:41  

  • completely agree with greg2rescue,
    We should bowl first at Mohali, although I feel Atapattu will bat first. After a rather conving drubbing in the first ODI, he can't be expected to risk bowling first. Additionally, Dilhara Lokuhettige is their likely SuperSub, and they would much rather prefer to use him as a bowler rather than as a batsman in the latter half of the match. If the Indian team management is thinking along the same lines, they ought to play a batsman as a SuperSub (Raina?), and not Kartik, even though he bowled exceptionally well in the first ODI (gotta go with horses for courses- only one spinner at Mohali).

    By Blogger Sahir, at 23:42  

  • good night guys

    By Blogger rahul_fan, at 23:42  

  • rahul_fan, Remember what you said about zaheer and I will catch up with you on this blog some other day and discuss it. Needless to say that I dont agree. Zaheer and his performance ( esp in finals ) has broke my heart on many occassions. Difficult to recover from that hurt...

    By Blogger greg2rescue, at 23:43  

  • adi,
    I reckon VRV is in definite contention for Test selection as the new ball partner for Pathan. However, it will take some exceptional performances in the Duleep Trophy to get him the nod.

    By Blogger Sahir, at 23:46  

  • Prem - just catching up on the scoop for the day. You are golden - relax. Do NOT take the "personal" comments on this blog to heart - you are a celebrity, much like SRT, Dravid and Ganguly. The most important aspect of a democracy is freedom to own land and freedom of speech. This blog is YOUR land and you have (and we all have) the freedom of speech. You need to continue your articulate and high mark journalism. We minnions can critize it but these are YOUR thoughts and you are someone we ALL have encountered at some point in time and that is why we are here. Oracle Guy was expressing his opinion ... you thought it was accusatory but I think it is just a thought on this blog ...your organic thoughts and comments are much appreciated

    By Blogger MM, at 23:49  

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    By Blogger Sahir, at 23:50  

  • Anybody know why Laxman is not playing for South Zone against Central Zone? Don't tell me it is in anticipation of a possible callup after the 2nd ODI, because I don't see that happening.

    By Blogger Sahir, at 23:51  

  • Prem did an interview of a charachter called Sunil Dev in 1998 , He was our manager for SA tour in 96-97 . Its great for gossip read . maybe some of it is true , but its pure entertainment

    If nay of you have the enthu try it out :
    http://www.rediff.com/sports/1998/feb/04a.htm

    By Blogger Adi, at 23:52  

  • Sahir

    Laxman not playing duleep match ! Where did you read that ? can you plz post the link

    By Blogger Adi, at 23:54  

  • adi,
    South Zone team: (from)
    *HK Badani, KS Sahabuddin, S Sriram, R Ramkumar, +KKD Karthik,
    AR Uthappa, R Vinay Kumar, L Balaji, BM Rowland, SR Nair,
    AS Yadav, SA Asnodkar, P Ojha, Anirudh Singh, R Jesuraj.

    http://usa.cricinfo.com/db/NEW/LIVE/frames/CENTRAL_SOUTH_DULEEP_27-30OCT2005.html

    Cricinfo does not have him listed on scorecard- Badani is captaining in his place

    By Blogger Sahir, at 00:01  

  • Who's expecting North Zone to beat the Zimbabwe President's XI by an innings? I am.

    By Blogger Sahir, at 00:05  

  • Another palyer to watch aside from VRV is Piyush Chawla bowling against a strong South Zone lineup.

    By Blogger Sahir, at 00:11  

  • yes Chawla was impressive , his googly is real good , will be interesting

    By Blogger Adi, at 00:11  

  • Does anyone know who sends India team to the Hong Kong cricket sixes ? i mean the team this year was Razdan , Robin Singh , Bangar , Kanitkar , Sodhi and Chopra !!!!!

    By Blogger Adi, at 00:13  

  • Knowing how efficient the BCCI is, the team probably is just made up of volunteers. :-)

    By Blogger Sahir, at 00:14  

  • Adi,

    That interview seems to be more honest and candid than most others.

    I believe most of it is true too

    By Blogger suraj, at 00:21  

  • mm- very well said.I think Prem is debasing himself by replying to stuff which he might as well ignore.

    This is a unique place where sensible people talk about love of the game. A healthy discussion is backbone and at the same time we should not take things at personal level and start abusing. There have been few instances where things spoken in good humor were shouted back and that is something which needs to be controlled.

    By Blogger J, at 00:43  

  • exactly j - there definitely seem to be some people here who lack basic sense of humor and who do not collaborate but instead folloew the the histoical English principle of divide and conquer

    By Blogger MM, at 01:34  

  • Adi,
    Awesome interview from Sunil Dev. And it shows the true colours of quite a few "past heroes". Part I and II were great treats. Thanks...

    By Blogger Toney, at 01:39  

  • Read this article by Prem
    Read the last 2-3 lines

    http://www.rediff.com/sports/1998/feb/25e.htm

    They point indirectly t the Kuruvilla incident

    By Blogger Adi, at 02:48  

  • I think Sunil Dev hit the nail on many issues. Where is this guy now, Prem?

    By Blogger raj, at 03:12  

  • hi, does any one had difficulties in connecting sto sportingstreams.com weblink ? pls reply

    By Blogger Shyam Prasad, at 04:30  

  • Just going thru some of the posts here made me seem that SG-bashing is indeed the order of the day.Now we put the blame for the current mess in Indian cricket squarely on the BCCI,the media & all others that we can possibly think of.But don't you think that we Indian fans too are a bit imbalanced,to say the least.Probably that's the reason why Indian players & captains are under perpertual pressure & in the process screw things up.I mean,come on,SG has been guilty of several things but one thing that he has always shown are great fighting qualities.Now why should anyone oppose if he shows that he's willing to come up the hard way(read scoring runs)Surely,none of us want the team to regress to the pre-SG era that was so full of regionalism & petty politics.I think keeping SG out even if he deserves to come in would smack of those very things.Also,it really seems ludicrous that the same moves of SG that were earning him bouquets(backing youngsters & so on)are derided today now that he's out.Seems really pathetic!!

    By Blogger mpb, at 05:42  

  • prem,
    the link to this thread didnt work for sometime.. was it the hacker at play again or were u editing it???

    By Blogger Balaji, at 10:08  

  • >>>Prem Said :- What exactly is this 'rooting' I am supposed to have done, and where did I do it? <<<

    Prem, Good outburst that was, looks like I touched a raw nerve there. Anyways Sir ji, It is a fact that media(including you) is over analysing one guy a little too much and they are going after ecery guy that writes anything remotely positive about that one guy.

    And as for that article 'Is our a national coach a liar' I thought that there was more sarcasm than you actually calling Greg 'underarm' chappell a liar. It was the response of a man or men who was/were desperately hoping that Ganguly would be proved wrong and than publicly humiliated. It was obvious that one of them(SG/GC) was a liar and it was proved it was the Coach.

    Prem, I admire you, your writtings, doesn't mean I am blindly going to follow every thing you write or say and take it as the ultimate truth. Same is true with Ganguly, I admire the guy, but it is time for him to go, but that doesn't mean I am going to throw shit @ him.

    By Blogger Oracle Guy, at 11:01  

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