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Thursday, October 27, 2005

*LOL* @ Freddy

An autobiography, I was told, is the life story of a person, written by the person himself. Here's an interesting 'autobiography', now -- where the person concerned not only didn't write it, but apparently is yet to read it himself.
No, but seriously, this new phenomenon of instant books to take advantage of some player being 'hot' is in danger of producing a chronic aversion to cricket literature.

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    By Blogger Askinstoo, at 16:31  

  • ..actually this kind of books are not a rarity nowadays for celebrities. I read somewhere a pop star, who after publishing a mammoth autobiography, told press that she has never read A complete book in her life. So much for the people who bought it....

    By Blogger SS, at 17:02  

  • Prem - I dont think any cricketer would write every word of their autobiography. Like everyone, Freddie must have had someone writing for him with his inputs, stories, anecdotes. However I agree that he should have read the book before releasing.

    By Blogger J, at 17:03  

  • Prema:

    Isn't ghost-writing old hat? I've heard of plenty of cases - movie stars form the bulk of them. And I'm pretty sure they don't read them either.

    By Blogger hjrsingh, at 17:04  

  • j,
    If Steve Waugh is to believed, he wrote all of his autobiography. Handwritten too... Why the hell would someone do that?

    By Blogger Sahir, at 17:10  

  • Steve Waugh must have written it himself cuz he would have prefered to present the story how he saw it, in his own inimitable style. Most guys who get somebody else to do the writing JOB for them are either not that well versed or are too lazy to spend the time but are too greedy to loose out on the money offered.

    By Blogger rahul_fan, at 17:24  

  • Argh..Now we are comparing Steve Waugh, one of the greatest Cricketer Ever, to a PUNK ??

    From what I hear frome friends who have got a chance to read Steve Waugh's autobio, Steve must have written it because the book has detailed match reports of some of the matches he played, details of things happened @ field...

    By Blogger Oracle Guy, at 17:45  

  • I thought the guy only looked like a dolt, didn't know he is one too. Doesn't surprise me really.

    Incidentally, did any one else appreciate the irony of seeing the not-so-nice things said about Pakistan (which I wouldn't really care about, except that it often extends to India in their twisted minds), and seeing right below it a brief piece which talked about how the British police are trying to justify their murdering the innocent Brazilian guy near one the their railway stations. If you ask me, I'm going to avoid going to England just as much as Pakistan.

    By Blogger Sudo Nima, at 17:52  

  • He's just Being Freddie ;-)

    By Blogger ClannZú, at 18:16  

  • I would rather read a self-written autobiography even if clunky and grammatically obtuse, than a ghost-written one in homeric pentameter.

    hjrsangh: I'm curious, why do you consistently misspell Prem's name? His name doesn't end with an "a".

    By Blogger idlivada, at 18:31  

  • Hmmmm I can see some of the ganguly fans ghost-writing "I have scored 10,000 runs so I deserve a place in the team forever" :)

    By Blogger Ashvin Iyengar, at 18:50  

  • Not sure what the big fuss is. Lot's of autobiographies are post written. Note that none of these ever win the Booker-Mann award. So I am not interested in how well Flintoff writes. Or any other cricketer for that matter. Most of them sound like cricketers and use the same cliches.

    By Blogger Jiet, at 18:54  

  • ashvin - Get over Ganguly, no need to bring him in every thread. I can also see Dravid's fans writting, " I didn't tamper with the ball, it was an accident"

    By Blogger Oracle Guy, at 19:03  

  • lol - oracle. Dravid was just acting on Ganguly's instructions :)

    By Blogger Ashvin Iyengar, at 19:07  

  • Yeah, but he was the who was caught cheating and so was the GOD in South Africa. ;)

    By Blogger Oracle Guy, at 19:09  

  • Hmmm methinks this ball tampering happens with much more frequency than has been proven. Despite Bracken's retraction, I suspect the Ashes had its share of ball tampering.
    Re people calling Tendulkar GOD, I agree - that is going way too far. But I admire his attitude though and a great asset to the team. You should have seen the way he was counseling sehwag during his marathon innings and the full-blooded hug he gave him when he reached his triple century - not a hint of envy there!!
    Re Dravid, come on man, he is our best batsman - don't know about ODIs but his test record is impeccable and still the one who you would turn to bat the team out of a crisis.

    By Blogger Ashvin Iyengar, at 19:16  

  • Are you saying that just because RD & SRT are great players, they can be exonerated of all the charges of Ball Tampering ?

    Or are you saying that just because everyone is doing it, SRT & RD should do it as well ?

    As for RD being a great batsman, where was he when India lost the series to Australia in India ?

    By Blogger Oracle Guy, at 19:21  

  • How can Sourav Ganguly after performing soo badly over the last one and half year honestly look at himself in the mirror and not be ashamed of himself for staking a claim in the team.

    The guy is a quitter! he quit the team when the going got tough in Indo-aus series, he quit when we toured pak, he even quit the challenger series.

    His only claim is he has 15000 runs in tests and ODI, and thus deserves to be in the team even if he is not performing RUGURALY against the top teams.

    If that is how the aussies and english boards (which are more professioanl than our BBCI) then steve waugh, mark waugh, mark taylor, Healy, Thorpe, Atherton, Stewart would all still be playing.

    Wake up GAGULY!!!!!, you are not welcome to the team anymore!!

    By Blogger rahul_fan, at 19:24  

  • Guys,

    Sportingstreams.com seems to have been taken down. Any updates?

    By Blogger Mr. V, at 19:32  

  • "Well placed source" of LPS is saying that Ganguly won't be back, especially if India wins the 2nd ODI

    By Blogger Mr. V, at 19:33  

  • nice one rahul_fan. I second every one of your word.

    By Blogger Thanks Chappel, at 19:34  

  • And Oh! if the Indian team were to play Weakest Link, guess who will the first one to be voted off??!!!

    heres the mock conversation......

    Anchor asks pathan....why have you voted DADA off?

    he seems to be scoring fewer runs than i do! :D

    Anchor asks Kaif....why have you voted DADA off?
    the guy is unjustly wasting a batting spot in team.

    anchor asks DADA to leave.......
    DADA you are the WEAKEST LINK, GOOD BYE! and dont EVER EVER EVER come back.

    By Blogger rahul_fan, at 19:34  

  • Rahul_fan - For Pathan and Kaif to answer the question, they need to understand it first, dont they, for their english only next to Inzimam's ? ;)

    By Blogger Oracle Guy, at 19:38  

  • oracle_guy is good. If someone speaks english.. bring him into the team and make him permanent.. other guys cant veto him coz they cant understand the question as it will be presented to them in crisp English. wow

    By Blogger Thanks Chappel, at 19:40  

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    By Blogger Thanks Chappel, at 19:40  

  • >>>How can Sourav Ganguly after performing soo badly over the last one and half year honestly look at himself in the mirror and not be ashamed of himself for staking a claim in the team.<<<

    *Same after RD was able to do so after caught tampering with the ball.

    * Same way after SRT was able to do so after tampering with the ball.

    * Same way after RD had no clue about Warne's bowling, he still doesn't, when even an unknon like Rajesh Sutar(who ?) could smack him all over the park.

    By Blogger Oracle Guy, at 19:41  

  • Oracle_guy,

    So SG is worth being in the team because he didn't temper with the ball.. and SRT and RD cant be in the team because they were charged with some fake allegations..

    By Blogger Thanks Chappel, at 19:42  

  • SG has not clue about short pitch bowling from ANY bowler in the world..

    Same RD made 180 odd runs against the same Warne in famous Calcutta test..

    So think before you talk..

    By Blogger Thanks Chappel, at 19:44  

  • TC , I thought we were talking abot the TV game called 'the weekest link' and not the game of cricket. ;) Besides Pathan should try to bowl better, because his test avg. minus Zim & BD isn't double his batting avg. ;)

    By Blogger Oracle Guy, at 19:45  

  • see there is no valid reason for DADA to be in the team, so our friend oracle_guy is just making up some reasons for him. And none of them are PERFORMANCE oriented.

    By Blogger rahul_fan, at 19:46  

  • >>>So SG is worth being in the team because he didn't temper with the ball.. and SRT and RD cant be in the team because they were charged with some fake allegations..<<<

    And where have I said that, It was basically in response to "how he could see his face in the mirror" ?

    I can see you getting defensive on the issue. ;) Incase you have missed, I have said it countlesws times that SG doesn't deserve to be in the team, but he doesn't desreve all the insults.

    By Blogger Oracle Guy, at 19:47  

  • >>>see there is no valid reason for DADA to be in the team, so our friend oracle_guy is just making up some reasons for him. And none of them are PERFORMANCE oriented. <<<

    Rahul fan, Only if you could read, you could notice that I have no such intention of supporting Ganguly's cause to get back into the team, but I will not let you or anyone insult as long as I am online.

    By Blogger Oracle Guy, at 19:49  

  • oh the insults are just a way of venting our anger out after watching his shameful performances.....i used to be a big fan of his until he started to cling on to his spot like a blood sucking leash trying to kill an innocent little boy(kaif)

    By Blogger rahul_fan, at 19:51  

  • >>> SG has not clue about short pitch bowling from ANY bowler in the world..

    Same RD made 180 odd runs against the same Warne in famous Calcutta test..

    So think before you talk.<<<

    And Same Ganguly scored 148 in Australia.

    In case you didn't know, check out list of top bunnies of SW, Dravid would be in top 5.

    By Blogger Oracle Guy, at 19:55  

  • >>>oh the insults are just a way of venting our anger out after watching his shameful performances.....i used to be a big fan of his until he started to cling on to his spot like a blood sucking leash trying to kill an innocent little boy(kaif)<<<

    People like you cant be fan of anyone. Nice way to justify your pathetic behavior though. ;)

    By Blogger Oracle Guy, at 19:56  

  • check out the best bunny of any top fast bowler, it would be SG......atleast RD is only SW's bunny.....whereas SG has a lit of bowlers to whom he is thier best bunny

    By Blogger rahul_fan, at 19:58  

  • >>>Thanks Chappel said...think before you talk.. <<<

    Oh the irony ;) Ever heard charity begins at home.

    By Blogger Oracle Guy, at 19:58  

  • when their time is up ........its up...we dont have to become emotional and cliong on to them......instead we have to remind DADA to go take a hike!!!!!

    he is not invited to the party.

    By Blogger rahul_fan, at 19:59  

  • For the first time I am actually glad to read Mr. Sahi

    "For the first time since his comeback in the summer of 1996, Sourav Ganguly’s immediate future is going to be decided by numbers."

    and what he mentions is the truth and nothing but the truth..:-)..It will really be the first time that numbers will count and not influence..(well maybe I exaggerate a bit.. but for sure in the last year or so it has been purely influence and not performance for SG)

    By Blogger ilovecricket, at 20:01  

  • LP Sahi

    Logically, he should take Gautam Gambhir’s place in the XV and (if the Nagpur side is retained on Friday) Yalaka Venugopal Rao’s in the XI. But, then, every selection isn’t driven by logic and other factors come into play.

    What a logic.

    By Blogger Thanks Chappel, at 20:06  

  • satyameva jayathe!!

    let truth prevail......
    let NON-PERFORMERS and QUITTERS burn in hell

    By Blogger rahul_fan, at 20:07  

  • >>>Rahul_fan said :- check out the best bunny of any top fast bowler, it would be SG......atleast RD is only SW's bunny.....whereas SG has a lit of bowlers to whom he is thier best bunny <<<

    Just Checked out Mcgrath, His top 3 Indian Bunnies are SRT, RD, VVS.

    Brett Lee's top Indian Bunny - RD

    Akhtar's top Ind bunny - RD

    By Blogger Oracle Guy, at 20:10  

  • oh you know what, oracle, they forgot to mention it ........during all that time.....DADA has QUIT the team....:D

    By Blogger rahul_fan, at 20:11  

  • he had an phantom injury that kept him out of the important matches.....anyway stats dont always tell the complete truth.

    IF you were ask every top fast bowler in the world, who they think would be the most easiest to dismiss......they would all reply DADA!!!

    By Blogger rahul_fan, at 20:14  

  • No body feels the need to apply their best bowlers to dismiss Ganguly.. And who wants to spend time on finding the right bowler when all it takes it wait for Noodles to cook(or vice versa..)

    Afridi's and razzaks and brad william's are enough.. or for that matter anyone..

    So ja ganguly varna "BOND" aa jayega.. looked at him when he saw Bond :)

    By Blogger Thanks Chappel, at 20:19  

  • By the way.. thead is about AUTOBIOGRAPHIES

    By Blogger Thanks Chappel, at 20:20  

  • But these guys(SG suporters) want to keep the pot boiling and are trying to fetch attention seekers and sympathisers(Crying about how he should get a farewell and respect) by crying here on BLOGs..

    By Blogger Thanks Chappel, at 20:22  

  • >>>No body feels the need to apply their best bowlers to dismiss Ganguly.. And who wants to spend time on finding the right bowler when all it takes it wait for Noodles to cook(or vice versa..)<<<

    Yeah that's why RD was Paul Adams bunny too. ;) Reallt greates bowler ever to play the game. ;)

    By Blogger Oracle Guy, at 20:26  

  • >>> By the way.. thead is about AUTOBIOGRAPHIES<<<

    Yeah please tell that to Ashvin, who cant let the thought of SG go outta his mind.

    As for the pot, look who is talkin now, only the SG bashers could let it go. Now that they are confronted, they are running for cover. :)

    Yeah Rahul_fan - Just like the injury SRT had to miss the tests vs. stronger countries but he was miraculously fit to play against BD. ;)

    By Blogger Oracle Guy, at 20:30  

  • well Oracle_guy, have you seen the stats of Dravid in wins of the so called most successful captain ever.. its 110+.. Got that.

    And if you have the balls to compare Dravid and SG interms of who is bunny and who is not, well you better get tested. Be informed and get help.

    By Blogger Thanks Chappel, at 20:31  

  • i just did a search on saurav.......and the list of bowlers who dismissed him most. You guys know what i found?....Amazingly it seems he was QUITTER he didnt want to face those top bowlers, it seems he'd rather stay at the otehr end.......thats why the guys who dismissed him most are guys like Dillon, Hoggard, Pollock....atbeast we can call them support bowlers.

    So when our top players RD and SRT were busy saving SG's ass from McGrath, Donald and co......DADA was busy defending loosers like Dillon, Cuffey, and co.....

    By Blogger rahul_fan, at 20:31  

  • >>>Rahul_fan said :- IF you were ask every top fast bowler in the world, who they think would be the most easiest to dismiss......they would all reply DADA!!!<<<

    and if u ask any spinner, he will tell you his easiest bunny would RD and that includes legends like Murali, Warne or decent spinners like Saqlain, Danish or spinner wannabies like Vettori, Paul Adams, Giles, Sanath, Symcox or even paul wiseman. Hahahahahaha

    By Blogger Oracle Guy, at 20:34  

  • Oracle Guy,

    Agreed that SG should not be insulted. But comparing SG and SRT?? Dude come on!!!

    By Blogger Poondu, at 20:37  

  • >>> why the guys who dismissed him most are guys like Dillon, Hoggard, Pollock....atbeast we can call them support bowlers.<<<

    Looks like someone just got a shock of his life. No. of times Hoggard dismissed RD (4), SG 4. And as far as dillon is concerned, he is way better than Paul Adams.

    By Blogger Oracle Guy, at 20:39  

  • RD is no bunny - he rocks !
    For all you diehard SG fans - I don't get it - how do you reconcile his last minute withdrawal from the (now) infamous Nagpur test ?

    How can you justify that ?

    By Blogger Jinendra, at 20:41  

  • >>> Agreed that SG should not be insulted. But comparing SG and SRT?? Dude come on!!!<<<

    Dude, if people are talking about quitters, then SRT is a bigger quitter than SG. He quit the captaincy twice and it was his mess that SG cleared it.

    It was SRT who was caught ball tampering on the camera.

    It was SRT who begged the govt for tax benefit on his ferrari.

    It was SRT who invited bookies to his wedding.

    You see it is very easy to dig dirt on anyone.

    By Blogger Oracle Guy, at 20:42  

  • Have you guys seen LP Sahi's latest article - LOL !

    By Blogger Jinendra, at 20:43  

  • Thanks Chappel,

    You talking about logic dude! Since when your posts started to reek off pure logic, heh??

    By Blogger dapolice, at 20:43  

  • >>> RD is no bunny - he rocks !
    For all you diehard SG fans - I don't get it - how do you reconcile his last minute withdrawal from the (now) infamous Nagpur test ?

    How can you justify that ?<<<

    And how do you justify RD ball tampering. ;) and RD staying out of BD game that India lost. ;)

    RD no bunny of SW ?? have you watched the 1999-2000 series in Australia ??

    By Blogger Oracle Guy, at 20:43  

  • Oracle Guy,

    I am just talking about cricketing abilities here (coz u are pulling statitistics of which bowlers dismissed these 2 batsmen). I am sure u will agree that SRT is a better bat .

    By Blogger Poondu, at 20:45  

  • Of Course SRT is a better bat but it is a fact that SG walked out at Melbourne to protect a batsman better than him and SRT willingly agreed. Now please tell me who is a quitter here ? ;)

    Tell me who was whinning after he missed his double century in Pakistan ?

    By Blogger Oracle Guy, at 20:47  

  • did i tell that SG was a quitter ? Dude read my post

    By Blogger Poondu, at 20:48  

  • i just joined the blog because it looked to me like u were comparing the cricketing abilities of SG and SRT.

    By Blogger Poondu, at 20:49  

  • No, you didn't Pondu, but look at the people on this thread, according to them SG is a quitter and should burn in hell.

    What an extremist attitude.

    By Blogger Oracle Guy, at 20:50  

  • i guess oracle cant answere the question about why DADA, QUIT in the last min of Nagpur test....cuz he has no genuine reason behind it........so he simply changes the topic to RD tampering the ball or SRT inviting somebody else to his wedding.

    Come you guys who support SG.......

    Wake up!!!! he is no longer wanted in the Team!!!

    By Blogger rahul_fan, at 20:51  

  • SRT & RD are such great players, then why didn't India chase a paltry total of 120 runs in WI. Let me RD got out to a might fast bowler named Franklyn Rose. Atleast SG got out to Ambrose and scored 4 times that of RD. ;)

    By Blogger Oracle Guy, at 20:52  

  • >>>i guess oracle cant answere the question about why DADA, QUIT in the last min of Nagpur test....cuz he has no genuine reason behind it........so he simply changes the topic to RD tampering the ball or SRT inviting somebody else to his wedding.<<<

    He missed the test Because he was INJURED. If that is not genuine reason then I dont know what is.

    And RD tampering with the ball is a fact, he was fined for that whereas Ganguly quitting is untrue and just figment of some people's biased assumptions

    By Blogger Oracle Guy, at 20:55  

  • Oracle,

    I read ur posts regularly and I think u have many valid points, but man try to stop giving counter examples for every stupid post.

    Rahul fan
    Oracle also does not want SG in the team.

    By Blogger Poondu, at 20:57  

  • well now DADA can gorge in the past, stay at home and tell his friends at home that he scored 4 times as many runs as RD.

    Only, they will reply.......
    What a JOKE!

    By Blogger rahul_fan, at 20:58  

  • >>> i just joined the blog because it looked to me like u were comparing the cricketing abilities of SG and SRT.<<<

    I am not, there is no comparison, but for the amount of talent SG has/had, he had done pretty well for himself esp in ODIs he is in top 5 players of all time. He doesn't deserve to be in the team right now, but he doesn't need to be insulted either.

    By Blogger Oracle Guy, at 20:58  

  • >>> well now DADA can gorge in the past, stay at home.<<<

    Well he is. :)

    By Blogger Oracle Guy, at 20:59  

  • wow,
    guys this is getting really petty and going absolutely nowhere; why not just end it now; simply agree to disagree
    Just a thought..don't mean any offence

    By Blogger Sahir, at 21:03  

  • Well Good for him......we just dont want him back. Thats all.

    By Blogger rahul_fan, at 21:03  

  • Oracle,
    Good chatting with u, Gotta go !!!

    By Blogger Poondu, at 21:04  

  • Sahir,

    this is just friendly banter dude.....we dont mean anything personal agaisnt either of us.Its just that our cricketing opinions differ and we are making our points.

    we cant QUIT now, we wouldnt be any different from DADA then.

    By Blogger rahul_fan, at 21:07  

  • oracle guy,

    sg was a great odi player .. and i agree that he certainly does not deserve the insults ... but he also has lost a lot of respect from the cricketing community
    (viewers as well as peers) and this is not because he lost form as a batsman, but becoz he refused to accept that, played games and tried every trick in the book to cling to his position. It was done at the expense of other promising batsmen.
    the point is - he did duck the nagpur test - please don't say injury - we all know that was the "official" reason and i think we're past "official" reasons.


    Ducking that test was NOT done .. reeked of self preservation and cowardice. Say what you may.

    By Blogger Jinendra, at 21:10  

  • Well said analyzer.

    By Blogger rahul_fan, at 21:12  

  • >>> Well Good for him......we just dont want him back. Thats all.<<<

    Indian Cricket isn't anyone's father's property. If SG plays well @ domestic games then he deserves as much chance as anyone.

    By Blogger Oracle Guy, at 21:20  

  • >>>the point is - he did duck the nagpur test - please don't say injury - we all know that was the "official" reason and i think we're past "official" reasons.<<<

    Analyzer, I guess when you said "WE" you included me as well. Please speak for yourself. I still believe that he was injured and will continue to believe so until I get some concrete information. If the media knows it but doesn't have the balls to report it, if the Physio knows it and doesn't have the balls to say so, If other players , coaches etc know it but dont have the balls to say it, then it's not my fault.

    Because I am not going to trust a journilst who says this to me in person but cant write in his newspaper.

    By Blogger Oracle Guy, at 21:24  

  • Yeah if he performs well, and consistenly over a period of 4-6 months, Not just one match. Then he can lay claim for a spot. But until then he has no right to be back, as the Indian Team is not his father's property.

    By Blogger rahul_fan, at 21:27  

  • Yes, the Indian team has become Chappell's property all of a sudden. Wondering how long this honeymoon of Indian fans with Chappell going to last?

    By Blogger Jai, at 21:30  

  • oracle guy,

    i think you are in denial :)
    you may be one of the miniscule % of cric fans who believe SG was really injured in the Nagpur test.

    you are definitely entitled to your opinion ... but I think you will be proven wrong on of thse days when someone releases their auto/biography (seems to be the vogue these days)

    There is no smoke without fire ....

    By Blogger Jinendra, at 21:31  

  • Oracle,
    You can keep searching for all the evedince you need, but you will find nothing that shows he is injured. Thats why we are all as baffeled as you are as to why he QUIT that test.

    But i can assure you that you can find plenty of evidence that DADA is not performing to international standards and doesnt desrve a place in the team until he proves his form in the domestic circuit, not in a single match but over a period of time.

    By Blogger rahul_fan, at 21:32  

  • Rahul_Fan, nice joke. A seasoned player with 15K runs under his belt doesn't need to prove his worth over a period of time. Period.

    By Blogger Jai, at 21:35  

  • Oracle guy,
    You are doing a good job.

    *cheers*
    Nambi

    By Blogger Nambi, at 21:35  

  • Jai,

    thats right.......he didnt prove his worth, thats why he was sacked. I guess that makes sense, huh?

    By Blogger rahul_fan, at 21:37  

  • Also, many players are/were not performing to 'international standards' (if there is one). Sehwag in ODIs is one of them. Kaif got his form back only recently after an extended lean patch. Yuvraj was going through rough patch. Pathan had a bad last year.

    By Blogger Jai, at 21:37  

  • We will see whether he was sacked or not and whether he comes back or not. I am not a fair weather fan like you who have chosen to come to the party with a handle like Rahul_Fan. Huh !

    By Blogger Jai, at 21:39  

  • Yes they all have lean patches.......they as you said they were all temporary. But DADA was a virtual NON-PERFORMER as well as a QWUITTER of important matches.

    By Blogger rahul_fan, at 21:39  

  • I am just glad that DADA wasnt invited to the party!!

    By Blogger rahul_fan, at 21:40  

  • Don't be so sure. You may be surprised.

    By Blogger Jai, at 21:41  

  • Why did GC want SG to oepn in Zimb test?

    By Blogger Nambi, at 21:42  

  • can I ask a question slightly off topic..What time is the Mohali match beginning..some posts said 1.00 PM IST..Cricinfo said 2.30 PM IST...could someone please let me know which is correct? thanks

    By Blogger ilovecricket, at 21:44  

  • You bet i wont.

    How can you guys seriously think that he deserves a place in team. Dont say that he scored 15k runs.....ofcorase he did and we are greatful for his services which are no longer required.

    By Blogger rahul_fan, at 21:44  

  • Nambi, GC was under the influence and was not sure what he was talking about. Just read his email once again and you will find that he suggested every batsman's name except SG. He thought he was talking to a dumb Aussie.

    By Blogger Jai, at 21:44  

  • who decides whether his service are no longer reqd or not? You? Excuse me, but who are you?

    By Blogger Jai, at 21:46  

  • GC asked SG to open in Zim test so that he could accomodate kaif.

    Oh going back to that test.......how come DADA toughes it out in the tests against Zim even though he had a mild tennis elbow, but couldnt do it in the Challenger Series?.

    I guess he is a Quitter!!

    By Blogger rahul_fan, at 21:46  

  • The selectors did..........werent you aware of the news that they sacked?

    By Blogger rahul_fan, at 21:47  

  • Weren't you aware of the fact that he had tennis elbow and was advised rest by BCCI appointed doctor and physio?

    By Blogger Jai, at 21:53  

  • Good they adviced him rest.......atlesat they had teh balls to tell him not to take the feild.

    By Blogger rahul_fan, at 21:54  

  • Rahul, show me from GC's email that he wanted SG to open the innings in order to accomodate Kaif. Since that email text can be found anywhere with a Google search, I think you should be able to prove your comment. I am going out for dinner now and will reply when I come back.

    By Blogger Jai, at 21:55  

  • do you even understand where to use the phrase 'have the balls'? Doubt it.

    By Blogger Jai, at 21:56  

  • why dont you go find it yourself?.....i sure do know how and where to use the balls! it looks like you are bit of a novice.

    By Blogger rahul_fan, at 21:59  

  • @oracle
    "Indian Cricket isn't anyone's father's property. If SG plays well @ domestic games then he deserves as much chance as anyone."

    True and it is anyone's father's property that they can suck for two years and then expect to come back into the team after one 100 against a no-name "popatwadi"attack.
    There is a long queue of talented performers and he has to join at the end of the queue. He has had enough chances in the international arena.

    As for the 10K runs argument, those 10K are done and in the records - thank you very much. Those 10K are not going to win matches today - only current form will

    By Blogger Bala, at 22:00  

  • People say Bush is the most divisive figure, but Dada can't be far behind!

    By Blogger Sahir, at 22:01  

  • seems like this argument could go on forever

    By Blogger Sahir, at 22:01  

  • oh BTW sahir -

    Was it you who suggested the GG as supersub with the reasoning?

    Really liked it

    By Blogger Bala, at 22:02  

  • yeah

    By Blogger Sahir, at 22:03  

  • interesting theory
    I actually do think that you are right.
    And I do have a feeling that that's what will happen tonight if we field first.

    GG and SRT may open with VS 1 down

    By Blogger Bala, at 22:08  

  • bala,

    what theory are we talkin about? is it on this thread.......please fill me in.

    By Blogger rahul_fan, at 22:12  

  • I reckon the match at Mohali will be really important for Sree Santh. A pitch with a little more in it for the seamers combined with the possibility of facing Jayasuriya and Sagakkara opening the innings ought to be very interesting. Hope he displays some of the ability and fire that was so evident during the Challenger Trophy at the same venue.

    By Blogger Sahir, at 22:15  

  • Sahir said...
    Prem,
    The pitch definitely quickened up in the evening during the Challenger Trophy. There was more movement available with the new ball, but once the ball got older things got really easy-- the ball came on very nicely to the bat and stopped spinning; just skidded on straight. The key to the chase is to keep wickets in hand early and pick the run-rate up later when the going gets much easier for batsmen. Dinesh Mongia had the right idea later in the tournament when bringing his spinners on after the 6th over, I believe, before the ball got wet. A good example of the nature of the wicket under lights was the second match during the tournament between India B and India Seniors. The Seniors were chasing a modest target of 241. Sree Santh steamed in and got some disconcerting lift and movement from the wicket, ripping apart the Seniors' top order (Tendulkar and Kaif). In fact, he even had Yuvraj caught behind, but to his dismay, the umpire did not agree. The Seniors were reduced to 33-3 before Yuvraj and Venugopal Rao took them home in a canter, with 4.1 overs to spare. Even Yuvraj, a notoriously poor player of spin during the middle overs, was able to comfortably milk the spinners as the ball came on the the bat nicely just skidding off the surface. I reckon chasing is the way to go tommorrow. It would be a good idea to have an opening batsman, Gautam Gambhir, as the SuperSub. He would probably be more comfortable than others playing the role of seeing off the new ball.

    By Blogger Bala, at 22:17  

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    By Blogger Sahir, at 22:18  

  • sure.......i would like to see our bowlers perform well and show some potential.

    But why dont they ever look like a glen mcgrath or an Allan donald.....i guess we indians dont pay too much attention to the fact that a fast bowlers needs to be strong inorder to perform well and sustain himself for a long period.

    Upcoming guys like pathan and balaji it seems work out a lot by still they look lean compared to other fast bowlers across the globe.

    By Blogger rahul_fan, at 22:20  

  • thanks for the update B. :)

    By Blogger rahul_fan, at 22:22  

  • prediction of the teams:

    Sri Lanka:
    Jayasuriya, Atapattu, Sangakkara, Jayawardene, Arnold, Dilshan, Vaas, Lokuhettige, Maharoof, Zoysa, Muralitharan, sub- Fernando
    (possible that Fernando is in the starting lineup and Zoyza will be the sub)
    notable omission: Chandana

    India:
    Tendulkar, Sehwag, Dravid, Yuvraj, Rao, Dhoni, Pathan, Yadav, Agarkar, Harbhajan, Santh, sub- Gambhir
    notable omission: Kartik

    By Blogger Sahir, at 22:34  

  • guys, can someone confirm the timing for the match? I saw somewhere that it might start at 130pm IST but cricketnext says 230pm. DD doesnt list the timings either.

    By Blogger Toney, at 22:45  

  • match start time is 2:30 PM IST as per CI.

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 22:48  

  • Me terrified, petrified, mollified.....sportingstreams.com seems to be down. Toney please suggest something....Regarding the Timing SS had it at a 8:30 GMT start, which is 4:30 est and 2:00 am IST. So in probability , the match will start at 2:30 IST , which D/N matches plyed there generally do.

    By Blogger Dark Nights, at 22:49  

  • Bala
    "then expect to come back into the team after one 100 against a no-name popatwadi"attack"

    I thought most of the North zone bowlers played international cricket, and VRV Singh is supposed to be the new phenomenon. What have you been smoking?

    By Blogger bouncer, at 22:50  

  • Match starts at 2:30 pm or 14:30 IST( GMT + 5:30 with no daylight savings).

    By Blogger Dark Nights, at 22:52  

  • dark nights, when I go to sportingstreams.com, it took me to a different site and asked me to register with the same username, password I used for sportingstreams. After that, I saw a post that said the sportingstreams server was down but this site would post the link for the match. They said the link info would be posted at 8:00 GMT.

    By Blogger Ashvin Iyengar, at 22:54  

  • thanks for the timings, I hope they are up when the match is on

    By Blogger Toney, at 22:56  

  • DADA in or OUT for 3rd ODI?

    What about Kaif? he declared himself fit, but the physio said no!

    interesting times ahead!

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 22:58  

  • This is the post I was referring to:
    http://s12.invisionfree.com/tempsport/index.php?showtopic=305

    By Blogger Ashvin Iyengar, at 22:59  

  • yacrik, oh no - u just re-opened pandora's box :)
    oracle will accuse u of box tampering :)

    By Blogger Ashvin Iyengar, at 23:01  

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    By Blogger Yacrik, at 23:03  

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    By Blogger Yacrik, at 23:03  

  • I don't see oracle's messages - got filter on.

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 23:05  

  • >>> oracle guy,

    i think you are in denial :)
    you may be one of the miniscule % of cric fans who believe SG was really injured in the Nagpur test.

    you are definitely entitled to your opinion ... but I think you will be proven wrong on of thse days when someone releases their auto/biography (seems to be the vogue these days)

    There is no smoke without fire ....<<<

    Yeah, there is no smoke without fire, then SRT must have been involved in match fixing because there were bookies in his party.

    As for me being in denial, Buddy, you know what I want proof, if you can prove it, then this denial can change, so go ahead make my day, show me the proof you have that SG was not injured in the game.

    And the onus of proof is on you, because you are the one who is accusing SG. Ever heard Innocent until proven guilty.

    By Blogger Oracle Guy, at 23:07  

  • Kaif is very despo?? just forced himself to the nets! even before the fitness test... should face some fine for violating fitness regime...

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 23:07  

  • oracle should just follow his hero's footsteps and declare himself unfit to write! tennis elbow and can't write any more comments!
    go and prove your form in a domestic forum before you come back here!

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 23:09  

  • Thanks Ashwin...a bit relieved....I had this fear that maybe Willow or someone else hacked ss....but the shady website that they are ...they like to keep things in suspended animation....like terorists.

    That line in SS is terrific " after millions of cups of coffee and endless sleepless nights, a 2000 strong team has delivered again. " :)

    By Blogger Dark Nights, at 23:10  

  • which is the site that has news on Saif fitness and comeback related news?

    By Blogger J, at 23:10  

  • ashvin - unlike you I see things with open eyes and I believe SG doesn't deserve to be in the team.

    By Blogger Oracle Guy, at 23:11  

  • hey guys!
    is oracle pro-SG or pro-Inidan cricket?

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 23:13  

  • oracle, I am relieved to hear that. I don't know what you are accusing me of though - what am I not seeing with open eyes?

    By Blogger Ashvin Iyengar, at 23:14  

  • >>>True and it is anyone's father's property that they can suck for two years and then expect to come back into the team after one 100 against a no-name "popatwadi"attack.
    <<<

    Bala - That's true. But I hope you apply this uniformly to everyone including Virender Sehwag, who has performed worse than SG since WC 2003. ;)

    By Blogger Oracle Guy, at 23:14  

  • J, are u talking about Kaif or Pataudi's son Saif? :)
    Wish saif was a cricketer - it would have been cool to have three generations of cricketers

    By Blogger Ashvin Iyengar, at 23:15  

  • Ashvin Iyengar said...
    yacrik, oh no - u just re-opened pandora's box :)

    Iyengar,
    I am also Iyengar. Are you Vadakalai or Thenkalai?

    Dondu

    By Blogger Dondu, at 23:16  

  • dondu - I am a mysore(hebbar) iyengar - one of those fake tamilians - don't knwo what that makes me

    By Blogger Ashvin Iyengar, at 23:18  

  • >>>Yacrick said :- oracle should just follow his hero's footsteps and declare himself unfit to write! tennis elbow and can't write any more comments!
    go and prove your form in a domestic forum before you come back here! <<<

    Well my heros are differnt, SG, SRT, RDs aren't my hero. For all his talent, SRT is a selfish man who cares about himself, so are RD & SG.

    My Hero is a guy who plays tennis for India and his nick name is 'LEE', Another hero of mine is a player who plays Badminton for India his name sounds like "Pulela Gopchand".

    Anyways..point is dont try to assume too much about me, none of you know me enough. ;)

    By Blogger Oracle Guy, at 23:19  

  • Check this out

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/cricket/england/4378030.stm

    England tour of pakistan covered by TMS. I had enjoyed entire ashes here and the coverage was simply superb. TMS's team is pretty decent

    By Blogger J, at 23:22  

  • oracle:
    all you say can be predicted; you are very predictable.

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 23:24  

  • oracle, u didn't answer my question. And moreover, if u agree sg does not deserve a place in the team, what are you fighting about? don't think anyone here would say vs should be persisted with if he continues to flop. didn't laxman get dropped?
    Re srt and rd being selfish, that is quite an accusation from someone who insists on proof!! I quoted an exampe of SRT's unselfishness re VS but obviously that did not impress you

    By Blogger Ashvin Iyengar, at 23:24  

  • since WC2003:
    VS: 1733runs @28.88 2 100s
    SG: 1403runs @30.50 0 100s

    VS has scored 275 more than SG!
    and 2 hundreds! and 33 wickets!!

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 23:27  

  • @ oracleguy

    moving away from all the rubbish i am trying to bring up a point from your last post. not trying to convince you to make SRT/RD/SG as your heroes but i have been told and when i have spoken to guys who have achieved in cricket all have to some extent agreed that you have to be somewhat selfish to succeed in this game.
    even in autobiographies, since this was the original thread, cricketers seem to think that a kind of selfish attitude is required for the game.just finished reading nasser hussains and it is a good read also says so. never going to buy flintoffs though doesnt interest me.
    steve waughs might be good - wait and see.

    By Blogger inoc, at 23:27  

  • i got news guys..........and its true ! you can test it yourself if you want.

    Oracle will disagree with you whatever you say, at times he acts as if he is level minded but the truth is he is NUTS!!!!

    By Blogger rahul_fan, at 23:29  

  • in addition VS' Test form has been exemplary... he is still 27-28 whereas SG is 34!

    SG should have been given retirement 2 years ago - in the middle of the WC2003 when he was hitting 100s against Kenya and out first ball against Pak;
    Any batsman gets out first ball against Pak in ODI should be dropped.

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 23:29  

  • oracle needs retirment

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 23:31  

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    By Blogger J, at 23:31  

  • thanks j. They didnt cover it last time though. So with a resurgent England team, we have a resuregent Radio. They are good. But they dont have a John Arlott anymore. Radio Australia commentary team I feel is also terrific. Back in the late 80s and early 90s when there was no ESPN Star, you could listen tests in Australia on RA via Short Wave 13.1 MHZ( if anyone of you are "old" enough to understand what short wave radio means.)

    Oracle guy...what are you doing?You are calling Sachin Tendulkar a selfish cricketer!!

    By Blogger Dark Nights, at 23:32  

  • http://www.tssonnet.com/tss2844/stories/20051029000902600.htm

    A very neat writeup by Amrit Mathur.

    Check-out how Sir GC ( yes I think he deserves a Sir) is doing with domestic teams. very heart warming indeed.

    Also read on about who is coaching whom in domestic level and Parthiv to be appointed Captain of Gujrat. certainly feel he is the future of Indian cricket.

    And yes Munaf is playing for Maharashtra.Would be interesting how he performs there.

    By Blogger J, at 23:34  

  • yacrik, rahul fan, nice to see u guys back. Anyway, much as i hate to see this happen, I have a sinking feeling that sg will be part of the fifteen for the next 3 ODIs. Maybe we should start a mock betting here on his SG's average runs and strike-rate if selected to play. Let's hear some numbers from SG supporters and see what kind of confidence they have in him.

    By Blogger Ashvin Iyengar, at 23:34  

  • Dark nights - Your post made me nostalgic. I remember getting up at 4.30am and tuning to radio australia. I have never enjoyed cricket more then listening to their team. It was amazing. I used to listen everything from Nz tour of Australalian to all Bensen and Hedges. i still remember Keith Stackpoll ( misspelt definitely and the commentators name might be incorrect) describing about Desmond Haynes pull ( The ball almost took leg umpires head with it to the boundary). It was all charismatic and special.

    By Blogger J, at 23:38  

  • SG's selection is not a done deal yet; depends on what happens tomorrow; If India win big, SG won't be back; does not matter if Yuvraj fails or Rao clicks or GG gets to bat; it's all about winning;
    If India lose, then SG has a chance.
    I don't think GC would let SG back in the team; GC is very eloquent and talk to selectors and make them believe in his vision - no doubt about it; GC needs team's support now; If the team win tomorrow's game, then SG is done for good in ODIs.

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 23:39  

  • oracle guy,
    Don't want to get into debate one way or the other. but here are the stats of Sehwag and Ganguly in ODIs since WC 2003

    Sehwag:
    Batting Average: 28.88
    Bowling Average: 35.54

    Ganguly:
    Batting Average: 30.50
    Bowling Average: 60.25

    Not much to chose from in batting averages although Sehwag's strike rate is about 20 points higher; a more significant difference in bowling averages

    Of course, test cricket is another matter altogether-- I don't think any comparison is required there.

    By Blogger Sahir, at 23:39  

  • Thanks, dark nights. Earlier on in this post, I gave an example of SRT's unselfish support of VS during his tripke century. Since Oracle insists on proof, still waiting on some proof from him about SRT and RD's selfishness.

    By Blogger Ashvin Iyengar, at 23:40  

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    By Blogger rahul_fan, at 23:40  

  • The Telegraph writer Sahi (looks like he has a direct line to SG) felt it is tough for him; the Sahi guy knows

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 23:41  

  • oops, looks like somebody did the statistical research quicker than I did

    By Blogger Sahir, at 23:41  

  • check out my posts on my blog sites guys.
    http://yacrik.blogspot.com

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 23:42  

  • Ashvin, please read your first post on this thread, you stirred the pot dude :-

    " Hmmmm I can see some of the ganguly fans ghost-writing "I have scored 10,000 runs so I deserve a place in the team forever" :)"

    And I have said countless times that SG doesn't deserve to be in the team and should not be in the team, but what I am arguing is that he doesn't deserve our insults either. SG is dropped, give the guy a break, move on, get a life.


    As for my comments about SRT, RD (you conveniently removed SG from your post )& SG being selfish, I was talking more like their persona, outside of cricket. They(all of them) have been shamelessly promoting products that are harmful (e.g. COKE which desttoyed Kerala's backwaters). Its a fact that all our cricketers are so full of themselves, they only think about themselves, their money, their car, their endorsement, their ego. They cant be my heroes.

    By Blogger Oracle Guy, at 23:43  

  • guys, how did a blog about freddie and his ability (sic) to write (looks like his ability to read is of similar quality) got changed to sg vs. rd again? oh i get it...it is the indian fans and the pettiness that cant hold their horses....but just a word of advise..let us stop making this a rd vs. sg issue and esp. for posts like that of rahul_fan, et al where logic, knowledge, etc. is conspicuous by their absence and even the basic understanding that rd would be ashamed of their fan dragging his name for this level of pettiness. may be rename to sourav_basher :)

    in any case, off the topic (or may be on it) and back to freddie: i think since english cricket did not have for the longest time anything close to a good solid cricketer (let alone a superb potential like freddie) the whole nation will suffer from an exaggerated session of hero worshipping much helped by their over romanticized media (esp when it is a english cricketer and also surprisingly playing well) and heavily starved public of looking upto something other than man u stats or prince willam's butt graffiti.

    By Blogger indianfansrcrazy, at 23:43  

  • Sahir
    you very correctly said "possible that Fernando is in the starting lineup and Zoyza will be the sub"

    Atapattu here(http://espnstar.com/cricket/cricket_newsdetail_1652103.html) agrees with you. and Also read on what RD says ""I wouldn't say we have been experimenting but that we have been trying out some cricket strategies," and this as well from RD ""We will continue to try out new things but it will all vary from match to match. Some things are done with the short-term results in mind and others with a longer view,"

    I must say he is playing right shots and saying the right things. Lets hope for his sake we demolish SL and SA.

    By Blogger J, at 23:44  

  • and also I am surprized nobody ever spoke of Jayasuriya not bowling in ODI's because of shoulder injury in our blog or did I miss it?

    By Blogger J, at 23:47  

  • @ indianfansrcrazy

    agree with both sections of your post.
    not all are as your name suggests lol

    By Blogger inoc, at 23:49  

  • >>> oracle guy,
    Don't want to get into debate one way or the other. but here are the stats of Sehwag and Ganguly in ODIs since WC 2003...Not much to chose from in batting averages although Sehwag's strike rate is about 20 points higher; a more significant difference in bowling ave <<<

    Sahir, VS isn't in the team because of his bowling or his allrounder skills. he is there because of his batting and even though there isn't much difference between his & SG's avg, it does say something about his batting form in ODIs since last WC. And if you compare his performance against Top teams then except PAK and NZ, he has been really pathetic against all other teams.

    By Blogger Oracle Guy, at 23:51  

  • indianfansrcrazy
    yeah guys like you are no doubt crazy........you dont even have the time to to through what i wrote before coming up with your comments.

    you must be one of those guys who like nothing better than kissing souravs butt crack

    By Blogger rahul_fan, at 23:52  

  • Oracle, I put that post to be funny. You may not have said it but there have been posts of that nature on this blog citing his 10,000 ODI runs ad nauseum. So, maybe you should tell them to move on, just like u r telling me not to insult SG? Re his being dropped, he has been dropped for only the first two ODIs and there is a very good chance he will be back in the team soon.

    Re the selfish comment, we were discussing about performances on the field, so I thought your comment pertained to their behaviour on the field. Off the field, I don't know and I don't care - I don't watch ads.

    By Blogger Ashvin Iyengar, at 23:53  

  • Letters to Editor
    Winning again

    Sir — The Nagpur one-day international finally presented Indian cricket fans with something to rejoice, especially since the team clicked as a unit, for once. Every top order batsman scored, and the bowlers did an excellent job. One wonders why the Indian team does not do well consistently, like the Australians. The new captain, Rahul Dravid, was not only humble in victory, but also acknowledged the role of every team member.

    The typically emotional and speculative Indian media have already started writing off Sourav Ganguly from this Indian ODI squad. While the century that Ganguly scored in the recent Duleep Trophy match against North Zone may not signal his return to form at the international level, he can certainly be brought back to the Indian side to replace the out-of-form Virendra Sehwag in the opening slot to partner Tendulkar. Sehwag may come lower down the order. After all, the Tendulkar-Ganguly opening pair is well-tested and could once again provide the great starts that it has in the past. If Ganguly fails, that may be the end of the road for him. He has shown the determination to perform under pressure in Zimbabwe and in the Duleep Trophy, and hopefully he will perform well under pressure again. Ganguly, like Tendulkar earlier, should forget about the captaincy now. He should concentrate on his batting and aim for some batting records as Tendulkar has done. Only then can he regain his rightful place in the team and leave his mark on the game. He has the talent to do so.


    Yours faithfully,
    R.B. Easwaran, Chennai





    Sir — India’s emphatic win over Sri Lanka in Nagpur shows that the team has come together as a cohesive unit, in spite of the controversies that have beset Indian cricket. It was heartening to see Sachin Tendulkar at his belligerent best after a long time. Credit goes to him also for proposing that Irfan Pathan come in to bat at number three. Pathan has been showing his prowess with the bat ever since his entry into international cricket and India should be able to develop him as a useful all-rounder, as Pakistan has done with Abdul Razzaq and Shoaib Malik. With J.P. Yadav, M.S. Dhoni and Murali Karthik also showing the potential to excel in more than one role in the future, India can take the cricketing world by storm. Also with Rahul Dravid, among the world’s best batsmen today, at the helm, the return of Mohammad Kaif and Sourav Ganguly can only take India from strength to strength. But the team also needs to be consistent.

    Yours faithfully,
    Arjun Chaudhuri, Calcutta





    Sir — One should not be carried away by the win in Nagpur. One swallow does not make a summer.

    It remains to be seen whether India can play consistently well to win the series against the Sri Lankans who are a good side and cannot be written off easily. But a good performance in this tour will raise the morale of the team and also send out the message that while India may have been down for a while, it definitely cannot be declared ‘out’.

    Yours faithfully,
    S. Balakrishanan, Jamshedpur

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 23:54  

  • j,
    I suppose nobody mentioned Jayasuriya not bowling because it was common knowledge that he would not prior to the match.

    We can demolish SA 5-0 in the ODIs if the curators are willing to produce pitches like the one at Nagpur-- absolutely nothing for the seamers and serious turn and bounce for the spinners. The South Africans only have one mediocre spinner, Boje, who likely will not tour out of fears of being investigated for criminal activity he admitted to! I suppose Robin Peterson with his left-arm rollers is the only other option along pith the part-time offies form the skipper himself. I hope the spinners' paradises are on offer-- could be very demoralizing for SA just prior to the Australia tour.

    By Blogger Sahir, at 23:55  

  • LOKENDRA PRATAP SAHI
    Chandigarh: Despite being ranked No. 2 in ODIs, neither Sri Lankan captain Maravan Atapattu nor coach Tom Moody exuded confidence in the lead-up to the second ODI, in neighbouring Mohali, on Friday.

    That can’t be good news for backers of a team which got annihilated by 152 runs in Tuesday’s Videocon Cup opener, in Nagpur. The series features seven ODIs, but such a thrashing can impact heavily on the matches that remain.


    Definitely not a good news for SG!

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 23:56  

  • Sourav return in squad not guaranteed
    - ‘Everything is down to numbers’; today could be the former captain’s longest day
    LOKENDRA PRATAP SAHI
    Chandigarh: For the first time since his comeback in the summer of 1996, Sourav Ganguly’s immediate future is going to be decided by numbers. Seemed unthinkable when he got back the Team India captaincy for Zimbabwe, in mid-August, but much has changed.

    The senior national selectors, it may be recalled, ignored Sourav for the first two ODIs of the ongoing series against Sri Lanka as he wasn’t fit when they met in neighbouring Mohali a fortnight ago.

    Kiran More and his colleagues — Yashpal Sharma, Pranab Roy, Gopal Sharma and V.B.Chandrasekhar — meet again, on Friday, to choose XV for the next three ODIs. Yet, despite Sourav’s superb 117 in the Duleep match versus North (an innings which proved both fitness and form), his return isn’t guaranteed.

    “It’s a tough call and everything is down to numbers... Two of the five selectors stand opposed and there’s no certainty that the remaining three will vote for him,” a well-placed source told The Telegraph late on Thursday.

    Then, the Greg Chappell factor is there. The coach doesn’t have a vote, but his views are going to be respected by the quintet. Ditto where captain Rahul Dravid is concerned. Chappell, at least, is unlikely to be enthusiastic about having Sourav back in the dressing room.

    For the record, the politically very pucca Dravid kept himself away from the Sourav issue. Asked at a Media conference whether his predecessor would be back Jaipur onwards, he said: “It’s for the selectors to decide.”

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 23:58  

  • West Indies begin first innings against QLD

    The West Indies resumed their chase of Queensland's first innings total of 323 in the tour match at Allan Border Field.

    They added to their overnight total of 13 to be 0-22 after 9 overs with openers Chris Gayle on 6 and Devon Smith on 13.

    Play was delayed for more than three hours after overnight rain left the outfield too wet to play on in the morning.

    The remaining two sessions will be extended by half an hour each to allow 150 overs to be bowled for the day.

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 23:59  

  • >>>Since Oracle insists on proof, still waiting on some proof from him about SRT and RD's selfishness.<<<

    How about this to start with. There are so many.

    http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/ci/content/story/140482.html

    By Blogger Oracle Guy, at 00:01  

  • Oracle, you are comparing SG and VS just on batting average. How about the strike-rate? That is important too.
    To your point, everyone agrees that VS has been flopping for a while. I think, if he does not improve and there is a better alternative, then he shoudl be replaced or made to sit out a few games.

    By Blogger Ashvin Iyengar, at 00:01  

  • oracle guy,
    I don't reckon it is fair to pull out 2 top teams- Pak and NZ
    Pulling out the 2 top teams a player peforms best against is bound to make most players' statistics look dramatically worse.
    Sehwag is in the team for his batting, but his utility his offies have been used on a very regular basis. Generally, he served as the fifth bowler before the very recent arrival of Yadav. He definitely had a rather significant role with the ball.
    Additonally, it is important to take into consideration the pace Sehwag scores his runs at.
    But once again, let me reiterate, I do not want to get sucked into a Ganguly debate. Merely digging up relevant stats for everyone's analysis.

    By Blogger Sahir, at 00:02  

  • yacrik,
    I'm assuming you made a mistake-- 150 overs bowled in a day???

    By Blogger Sahir, at 00:04  

  • Goodness me, RD and selfish?
    Under Ganguly, Dravid scored 14 centuries and 22 fifties and averaged a freakish 97 in Tests won. He kept wickets in ODIs for a season longer than necessary. All the time he had people whispering into his ear that he was being taken for a ride and was jeopardising his longevity. If he bought into it, it did not show. If the banished Ganguly now returns to the side, he has the opportunity to reciprocate Dravid's loyalty. Anything else will sink the team. The compromise formula of separate captains had better be just a pie in the sky-or all India will be looking at is a pie in the face.

    By Blogger J, at 00:04  

  • hey guys:
    leave this oracle guy alone - he has ideas that nobody in the world agrees with (including himself!).

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 00:04  

  • Oracle, I think you are expecting saints to play cricket for India!! it is human to express some disappointment at missing out on a double century. You conveniently ignore the praise he lavishes on VS in the same article. Also hos comment abt not worrrying abt crossing gavaskar's landmark.

    By Blogger Ashvin Iyengar, at 00:05  

  • sahir:
    yes, it is a mistake; should be 50, not 150

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 00:06  

  • >>>Oracle, I put that post to be funny. You may not have said it but there have been posts of that nature on this blog citing his 10,000 ODI runs ad nauseum. So, maybe you should tell them to move on, just like u r telling me not to insult SG? Re his being dropped, he has been dropped for only the first two ODIs and there is a very good chance he will be back in the team soon.<<<

    Ashvin, the way things have been going here , it is hard to figure out what is real and what is not. In any case, I apologize if it was meant to be funny.

    >>>Re the selfish comment, we were discussing about performances on the field, so I thought your comment pertained to their behaviour on the field. Off the field, I don't know and I don't care - I don't watch ads.<<<

    I dont care either, I watch them play and needless to say that their performance makes me happy. But someone said that SG is my hero, and that's why my response. Being a cricketer is not good enough for me, I like someone who wears his India color with pride and every times he represents his country, he exceeds his capacity like Lee, when he won a Medal @ Atlanta, I watched him @ the podium with Agassi and that to me remains unmatchable.

    By Blogger Oracle Guy, at 00:08  

  • @ashvin:

    please leave oracle alone!
    heck with his stuff!!! if there is one selfish guy in the world we know who - it's all in the Indian cricket bible.

    Indian cricket bible? no prize for guessing that one!

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 00:08  

  • Q. What is the the more common name for the Indian cricket bible?

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 00:10  

  • OK guys off to sleep. Have to get up in less than five hours to watch cricket. What the *@(# am I doing arguing with u guys in this blog? :)
    Be good to each other while I am away :)

    By Blogger Ashvin Iyengar, at 00:12  

  • >>> oracle guy,
    I don't reckon it is fair to pull out 2 top teams- Pak and NZ
    Pulling out the 2 top teams a player peforms best against is bound to make most players' statistics look dramatically worse.
    Sehwag is in the team for his batting, but his utility his offies have been used on a very regular basis. Generally, he served as the fifth bowler before the very recent arrival of Yadav. He definitely had a rather significant role with the ball.
    Additonally, it is important to take into consideration the pace Sehwag scores his runs at.
    But once again, let me reiterate, I do not want to get sucked into a Ganguly debate. Merely digging up relevant stats for everyone's analysis.<<<

    Sahir, Well you would be surprised to know that, since WC 2003 VS averages 17 against Aus, 1 against Eng,4 against WI, about 32-34 against Pak, SL , 21 against SA. As for his bowling and 60 against NZ, he bowls at an avg. of 3 overs per match, hardly an allrounder for me and hardly enough to be the fifth bowler.

    By Blogger Oracle Guy, at 00:17  

  • >>>it is human to express some disappointment at missing out on a double century. <<<

    That was just one example man, there was the Sydney double century one of the most selfish innings I have ever watched. We lost out on a series win because someone wanted to break 236...

    By Blogger Oracle Guy, at 00:25  

  • >>> hey guys:
    leave this oracle guy alone - he has ideas that nobody in the world agrees with (including himself!).<<<

    Haha ;)

    By Blogger Oracle Guy, at 00:26  

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    By Blogger indianfansrcrazy, at 00:29  

  • oracle guy,
    the bottom line is the overall statistics:
    he has 33 wickets in 61 matches since WC 2003.
    That is more than a wicket every other match- pretty decent bowling for a part-timer, period.
    Average over the period is 28.88 at almost a run a ball- he can certainly do better, but these statistics are not that bad for an ODI player; certainly does not warrant him being dropped.

    By Blogger Sahir, at 00:32  

  • Oracle bhaiya, aap in chutiyon ko jaane do, in se baat karna bekar hain. Saalon ko Ganguly ke ilawa kisi ki burai karna nahi aata. Thode din aur ruk jao, Ganguly Dada wapas aake in sabhi ka g**d mein bahut kas ke maarne wale hain.

    By Blogger Bhairo Singh, at 00:32  

  • Good night, all

    By Blogger Sahir, at 00:34  

  • rahul_fan (aka saurav_basher): actually even one of your posts dont deserve a reading although i read quite a few to give you the benefit of the doubt...for primarily two reasons: 1) they are badly written without making much sense and 2) they are all unashamedly against sg and like a broken record makes the same non valid points and hence if one reads one..it is really more than enough.
    grow up buddy, we are here to talk about cricket and not bash our cricketers and also the topic was freddie but like your fat fingeredness about sg when you write; your eyes are also suffering from sg mania and would like to squeeze in sg bashing wherever possible. reminds me of an incident when we were kids in school (behavior lot like some people here) and were getting ready for final exams. the rumor was that an essay on gandhi was on the cards for sure. most of the people prepared for that and mugged everything about gandhi. as it turns out, the essay was on "Your Pet". one of the guys' essay read "I have a pet rabbit. Even Mahatma Gandhi had a pet rabbit. Mahatma Gandhi, the great Indian leader was born on........." you get my drift...

    By Blogger indianfansrcrazy, at 00:34  

  • good night Sahir bhai. Kaha aap ho aur kaha Sahir Ludhianvi saab. Kaha kaha se aa jaate hain.

    By Blogger Bhairo Singh, at 00:35  

  • bhairo singh,
    Even though I am not one of the Ganguly bashers you are insulting, its rather inapproptiate to start using foul language directed at others on the blog. We've managed to keep it clean so far; let's try and maintain it.

    By Blogger Sahir, at 00:36  

  • indianfanscrazy bhai saab, yeh Rahul_Fan apne kaarnamo se Rahul ka naam kharab kar raha hain. Saale ko sabak sikhana chahiye.

    By Blogger Bhairo Singh, at 00:37  

  • Sahir bhai, maine aisa kuch nahi kiya agar aap in ullu ki paathon ki kaarnamo ko compare kare. Yeh log cancer hai sirf is blog ka nahi, balki purey society ka.

    By Blogger Bhairo Singh, at 00:39  

  • bhairo singh,
    compare karne ki baat nahin hai
    Just state your point without calling people chutiyas or any other foul language; all others are doing so

    By Blogger Sahir, at 00:41  

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