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Friday, October 21, 2005


December is, for us here, a tricky month -- you have the usual annual issues to plan for; winter brings disruptions; for India Abroad there is also the annual Person of the Year event to plan.
A couple of days back, I was checking the calendar, filling in the blanks with to-dos, when I remembered the month also contains a three Test series against Sri Lanka, that comes on the back of the ODI series against SA.
Reasonably important, these Tests, because they give the team an opportunity to get away from the pajama parties and focus on the longer version of the game again, ahead of what should be an interesting tour of Pakistan.
You notice, first up, that India will play its first Test just three days after it completes a sequence of 12 ODIs -- but that sort of scheduling is par for the course; not worth even raising an eyebrow, any more.
But where are we playing these Tests? 'TBC', says the legend on the schedule.
To Be Confirmed.
As a motto for itself, the BCCI could hardly do worse. The elections? TBC. The identity of the next bunch of office bearers? TBC. The national selection committee? TBC. The long term captain of the national squad? TBC. The identity of the broadcasters for Indian cricket? TBC. The identity of the bloke who leaked all that good stuff to the media, and precipitated an ugly crisis in Indian cricket? TBC.
So when will the venues be confirmed? Probably after the elections -- because the right of awarding Tests to 'friendly' associations is one of the spoils of war.
The associations that actually end up getting the right to host the Tests might find themselves short on time for pitch and ground preparation -- but should we care?


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    By Blogger TradingCourses, at 12:22  

  • Prem : "...because the right of awarding Tests to 'friendly' associations is one of the spoils of war..:" - I thought the tests (and even ODIs) were decided on rotational basis...and quite strictly too. Unless a venue had to give up its rights for some reason (like stadium repairs etc)?

    By Blogger worma, at 12:35  

  • TBCCCI = To Be Confirmed Control of Cricket in India

    By Blogger Ruchir Joshi, at 12:39  

  • worma: thats exactly what i had heard... i thought there is some rotational policy that the 9 test centers go through... there r times when there is an exception, but most of the times it is pretty straight-forward... saying that i donno why the BCCI has abstrained from naming the venues?

    By Blogger Mayur, at 12:42  

  • While we are at it, can someone please tell me why BCCI treats BD cricket like a doormat ? And also why have we not played a single test series against SL since 2001, because it between we have plaed 2 series vs. Aus, Pak, SA, Zim, NZ, WI and 1 vs. England. We are getting ready to play our 3rd against SA, Pak, 2nd against England.

    What is stopping us from playing a test series against SL ? (Did you guys know that Murali & SL last played in India in 1997-98) - Since then aus have toured us twice, even pak has toured us twice. :)

    By Blogger Oracle Guy, at 12:46  

  • oracle, its a good thing (even if unfair) that BD doesnt get to play India as often as the Aussies do. I remember the last test tour for SL in INdia, Sri came back after that major injury of his and promptly cut short Lanka De Silva's career with the nastiest bouncer ever. And Kumble found that there were two sets of SL batsmen. The first set contained Aravinda and the other set contained the rest.

    worma, mayur, if this is truly rotational policy, then could we guess on the venues for SL matches? Lets see how accurate we are :). I agree with you, though. I think the ODIs are also handed out on this basis, right?

    Abt the Indians playing a test series within 3 days of the ODI series against SA - what is interesting is that SL, our opponents in the test series has nothing to do during this time. They can recuperate in SL and have a long, relaxed preparation period to meet the weary Indians who just toured the whole country several times, playing 12 ODIs.

    By Blogger Toney, at 12:57  

  • Worma: WE all "think" so. Can go digging through the records, but off the top, I seem to remember that this year alone, we've played both Aus and Pak at the Chinnaswamy; South Africa and Pak at the Gardens. If we have two duplicate venues out of the last 9 Tests played on home soil, where is the 'strict rotation' they talk about?
    Go further, break it down zone wise, and you will prolly find that particular pronouncement is on par with much else the BCCI says -- strictly for public consumption

    By Blogger Prem Panicker, at 13:02  

  • toney...for past some years...I cannot think of any test match which was awarded to a venue outside the rotational policy (except one test give to Kolkata, in the Pak series...because some other venue, I think Lucknow? refused). So yes...its rotational...but still I dont know whose turn is it(or in what 'sequence' is the rotation), so cant guess.

    While I do think its the same policy for ODIs...I'm not absolutely sure about this.

    on playing tests after ODIs...well its harmful...but I would still say its better than playing them after a break....since its not as if we'd have had a long hectic season before the start of the series. We would have played 12 ODIs in couple of months....not too hectic I would say?

    By Blogger worma, at 13:06  

  • Toney, We are the only country where BD have not played a single test series, So we definately have done the least to improve BD cricket when we should have done much more. It's not only about playing test series. But Iguess when our own house is not in order and our own cricket is suffering how can we help improve others.;)

    By Blogger Oracle Guy, at 13:07  

  • prem...about the Pak match in Kolatta, as I said, I do remember why it was given to them...some other venue was not ready (was it Lucknow or Delhi?)

    Not so sure about Bangalore...let me see if I can find out from old reports

    By Blogger worma, at 13:08  

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    By Blogger Harsha, at 13:10  

  • OK prem...foudn the reason for Bangalore 'double' hosting

    The venues of the three Tests and five one-day internationals for Pakistan's tour of India, which starts next month, have been announced. According to the rotation policy followed by the Indian board, Delhi, Mohali and Ahmedabad were in line to host the Tests. However, with Delhi's Feroz Shah Kotla Stadium still undergoing renovation, Bangalore got the opportunity to stage its second Test of the season, having hosted the Australians in October.

    Its here in this report

    By Blogger worma, at 13:11  

  • anybody watching the 20-20 cricket, SA from a strong position are in a slump. Hopefully GC and Co will note that this was caused mainly by an avg spinner.

    By Blogger Toney, at 13:12  

  • ..and I think Kolkata got the second Pak test due to Pak rejecting to play in Ahmedabad?

    ..so that 'solves' it I guess?

    By Blogger worma, at 13:13  

  • Any idea if the ODI's against SL will be telecast on TV in the UK or if there be a live webcast?? I know its too much to be asking for with the BCCI.. We still have 4 more long days to go before we start the games... There is still sooo much of time to finalise all this... Another TBC!!!

    By Blogger Harsha, at 13:13  

  • toney...yes following on cricinfo...SA seem to have too many players not suited for this format. Kallis the biggest misfit I think they opened with him because they wanted to 'hide' his slow play so had him play in tandem with Smith!!...otherwise no reason by Gibbs didnt open

    By Blogger worma, at 13:16  

  • just started watching noow, Bond bowls a good over in the death. Sad he wasnt in the WXIs. Aussies havent done well against him

    By Blogger Toney, at 13:18  

  • is it on sportingstreams?..lemme put on then

    By Blogger worma, at 13:19  

  • Ooh, Morkel seems to be like a Klusner and he's gone

    By Blogger Toney, at 13:20  

  • LOL, worma, I didnt know either. And it is

    By Blogger Toney, at 13:20  

  • Awesome fielding by Kiwis.

    By Blogger Toney, at 13:21  

  • worma, u r just in time for the break :)

    By Blogger Toney, at 13:21  

  • yeah toney....I see the scorecard ;-)..chalo atleast the second innings....if there's some interest...ahh anyway...its atleast cricket

    By Blogger worma, at 13:26  

  • full house, believe it or not. I think the Kiwis should win though.

    By Blogger Toney, at 13:29  

  • yep they have more experience of this format...and bat deep too...

    By Blogger worma, at 13:31  

  • wonder when India will play one, BCCI seems to be keeping its distance from this money maker!! I have a feeling guys like SRT might not find a place in the team

    By Blogger Toney, at 13:33  

  • toney LOL...well SRT is *capable* of playing in that style....whether he would be interested or not is another issue.

    But anyways..he shouldnt. His playing time is too precious to be wasted on tamasha, right?

    By Blogger worma, at 13:35  

  • what are these commentators talking about?...saying Eng can play two spinners in Udal and Giles...are they smoking something or what? :-))

    By Blogger worma, at 13:36  

  • that was my line of thinking, more than whether he is capable of this. He definitely is, I am not sure he should waste his career and risk injury. As for this being a tamasha, not so sure. ODIs were greeted rather poorly and see how they are doing now.

    By Blogger Toney, at 13:37  

  • worma, they can play 2 spinners, sure. And Pakistan will be all smiles :) DOnt think this will happen though. Pak has all of its quicker men fit, I am sure Kaneria wont be the only game plan they have. And I feel England have a long way to go before they play Aussie style in the subcontinent (even if they won in Pak the last time).

    By Blogger Toney, at 13:38  

  • toney...umm..tamasha was used in a loose sense....as we still think (atleast many of the purists) that test matches are real cricket...and ODIs are more of entertainment (not derogatory sense)...same way...twenty20 is one step lower....more percentage of entertainment element and even less of actual cricket.

    That said....I would still eagerly watch a Twenty20 game involving India B and Namibia C teams ;-)

    By Blogger worma, at 13:39  

  • Tests are still the best, especially when watching the matches in Aus. Something magical about the green grass and the good pitches they hand out. Not to say that Indian games are any less but I dont really look forward to, say Ind Vs NZ in India or even Ind VS SA

    By Blogger Toney, at 13:41  

  • toney...not all fit...Shoaib has been asked to do a SG (umm..prove form and fitness ;-)...but yes...I agree...Pak would have a pace strategy also...but I'm sure they have situatioan and venue based strategy...maybe give practise games on fast pitch and first test on turner...or some such.

    And I do feel Mushtaq is not very likely to play...his name is being thrown for mindgames...Pak style :-)...esp if Pak play Afridi and/or Malik...these guys are decent spinners from Eng standards

    By Blogger worma, at 13:42  

  • toney...I think its got something to do with the cricket coverage also (in Aus, and now in Eng) which makes it more charming. Quality commentary also helps.

    And btw...those two examples...you wont watch them because Nz and SA are boring test teams :-)...SL also.

    By Blogger worma, at 13:43  

  • oh..SA had boje in the ranks..why didnt they bring him in batting?

    By Blogger worma, at 13:51  

  • sheesh, stuppid Smith, else Polly would have had Astle for a duck

    By Blogger Toney, at 13:53  

  • tests in SA arent so boring, neither are the ones in NZ. Probably because of the extra help for the faster men. SL are definitely among the more boring test teams. And they havent won a test in India yet, interesting

    By Blogger Toney, at 13:55  

  • worma: my guess is that PAK might end up going with a 2+2 combo with SA and UG/NUH forming the pace attack while DK and MA being the spin front... i think PAK might have an edge because of their alrounders in the form of SA and AR... that means they have 6 frontline bowlers... which is why i think the series is going to be decided by how well either team bats... i think PAK might end up recalling MA though i think he will be useless especially after the recent exp that the english batters have in facing SW...

    By Blogger Mayur, at 13:55  

  • hey i totally forgot sami there... how can i...

    By Blogger Mayur, at 13:57  

  • Mayur, u think SA will last 3 tests?

    By Blogger Toney, at 13:59  

  • mayur: I dont think Pak will play Mushtaq in all matches...ok atleast not the ones in which Afridi/Malik plays. Maybe they may think about it if Shoaib doesnt play.

    The other point..I think Pak playing Afridi and Razzaq is a big mistake. Since atleast one of them occupies a specialist batting spot...and none of them is capable of that in a test match. And none of them is capable of holding a bowling spot either(ok maybe when in good form, yes). Malik is a batsman who, I think, can be developed as a test batsman allrounder

    By Blogger worma, at 14:00  

  • toney...by boring I meant the 'style' of test cricket which these 3 teams play (SA, SL and Nz to some extent) is boring. Its more of attritional, safety-first(and second) kind of style

    By Blogger worma, at 14:02  

  • toney: the obvious answer is NO... he is a 'plane' that no one (boing and air bus) wud want to build... PAK has shown in the past that they can play (and compete) without SA so its no big deal for them... he definitely gives them an edge that they dont wanna miss... i hope he is not forced to play despite being injured... the PAK board shud do a ZK with him...

    By Blogger Mayur, at 14:03  

  • worma: this was their lineup against IND at chinnaswamy...
    YH, SA, YK, IH, MY, AK, AR, KA, MS, AK, DK

    so basically PAK played with 2 specialist spinners along with Afridi and AR was the opening bowler... so they basically played with 3 specialist bowlers (MS, DK and AK)... Arshad is definitely out of contention and will be replaced by a specialist fast bowler (more than likely SA)... so if PAK wants to play MA, then they will have to drop AR or SA because everyone else is kinda untouchable... YH might get dropped, but again i have seen YH and IF play merry go round for the opening spot... TU and SB adds to that connundrum... i have also seen in the A tour against AUS-A, SM was tried out as an opener... i am pretty sure that SA will play all the tests, but they will have to access whether AR is good enough to be frontline batsman and a frontline bowler... again i dont see them dropping AR too as i think he is a sacred cow for them... so more than likely they will end up going with the same lineup as the bangalore test with some reshuffling at the top of the order (SA might end up in the middle order) while SA replacing AK... what say?

    By Blogger Mayur, at 14:17  

  • mayur,
    I don't remember seeing NUH in the probables list. Is he is the squad ?

    By Blogger Poondu, at 14:17  

  • poondu: i dont think PAK has released their prabable squad yet... might happen soon... i definitely think NuH will be a part of the 14...

    By Blogger Mayur, at 14:19  

  • this sucks... SA can be both akthar and afridi... i meant afridi was going to be a part of all 3 tests...

    By Blogger Mayur, at 14:20  

  • whats going on with hamish marshal... this guy has been out of form for a long time now...

    By Blogger Mayur, at 14:21  

  • Hmm, Fleming gone, wonder how this match will end up. I thought the Kiwis would canter home

    By Blogger Toney, at 14:22  

  • Hi guys,
    I have a question. I was looking at India in WestIndies May-June 2006 series schedule. Looks like over the Memorial day weekend there are 2 one days in Trinidad. I was thinking may be I can plan a trip to Trinidad & Tobago as it is long weekend and that way also cover one of those 2 one day matches. Anyone has any idea about travelling to Trinidad and also about where to look for tickets and other information for the matches in West Indies. This information may also be useful for World cup in 2007.

    By Blogger Yorker, at 14:23  

  • toney: fleming gone? cricinfo is way too slow... gawd NZ seems hell bent on making this game interesting...

    By Blogger Mayur, at 14:25  

  • yorker, would have loved to be part of that. But I am planning a trip to India in Sep-Oct. I have my sights set on WC07. As for travel agents, not really looked into it yet.

    By Blogger Toney, at 14:25  

  • this match has been an exhibition of ground fielding so far, how about we Indians take a closer look?

    By Blogger Toney, at 14:26  

  • mayur, am watching on ss

    By Blogger Toney, at 14:26  

  • yorker: wow, interesting find there... will be interesting to know how people respond...

    By Blogger Mayur, at 14:26  

  • nel bowling nice and tight there...

    By Blogger Mayur, at 14:29  

  • yorker,
    there must be quite a few air connections from houston, atlanta or charlotte or even FLA airports for Jamaica or other countries in the WI. But as to visa and other stuff, do share the info when you find out.

    By Blogger Gardhabh, at 14:33  

  • yorker - somewhere to start for the tickets - The Trinidad & Tobago Cricket Board of Control is responsible for cricket in Trinidad & Tobago. The president is Alloy Lequay. The office is located at National Cricket Centre, Clifford Road, Sonny Ramadin Turn, Balmain, Couva. Telephone 868-636-4745, fax 868-636-1577.

    By Blogger Gardhabh, at 14:37  

  • mayur...about pak squad in Blore...they got it wrong..sure they won it...but wont do so consistently...cos in Afridi and Razzaq they have atleast one 'extra' half-batsman.

    They should look at playing either of these..and 4 bowlers....so if its Razzaq, then they can go for 2 spinners....or if its Afridi then 3 seamers and 1 spinner.

    By Blogger worma, at 14:47  

  • As far as Visa and other information is concerned Trinidad has Embassy in Washington and consulates in Miami and Newyork. Indians need to get a travel visa. U.S citizens do not need one. Trourist visa cost is around $15. For those in NY area consulate is on 2nd avenue 75th street. I think visa and travel arrangements should be easy. Last time I check round trip from NY to Port of spain was around 400- 500 dollars. Getting tickets for the game in advance is the first thing for me. As many of you might know, In West Indies Radio and T.V broadcasts will not be available in that city if stadium is not full. So, tickets might me sold out very quickly. I think the information gardhabh has provided might be useful to know about tickets.

    By Blogger Yorker, at 14:50  

  • yorker, do let us know abt the tkts. I wonder if there are any possibilities of buying over the internet

    By Blogger Toney, at 14:51  

  • LOL, an Indian lifts "Gibbs, Welcome To India" banner. Cheeky

    By Blogger Toney, at 14:54  

  • toney, I think Indian and WestIndian boards are on same track as far as online availability is concerned. I did not find any information about tickets over internet. Last time I went to India, Australians were to touring India. Since I had my trip booked well in advance, I tried to see if I can get tickets for any of those matches. I could not find one. For that matter, I was looking for any information regarding new stadium in HYD (my home town), but I don't find any good information. Only information I find is about the politics involved in naming the stadium after Rajiv Gandhi

    By Blogger Yorker, at 14:56  

  • I don't think even BCCI has any website. Or am I wrong ?

    By Blogger Yorker, at 14:57  

  • you are very correct about that. Do you want the secretary's Sify ID??

    By Blogger Toney, at 15:14  

  • So Smith finishes the game for SA... nice to have these kind of finishers :-)

    By Blogger santa_from_NJ, at 15:15  

  • santa, wonderful over, right? Smith is indeed a clever man

    By Blogger Toney, at 15:20  

  • Yes toney,
    It would have been fun to watch the faces of Pollock and Nel.
    Looks like today is Smith's day.. in the morning we had a chance to read those wonderful mock diaries.. and to end the day, we had this over from him. :-)

    By Blogger santa_from_NJ, at 15:25  

  • Re: 20/20 game. What the?? This is the WXI captain? Morkel gives up 9 runs so he brings himself on and gives up 20 for the win. 3 overs to go with 21 to get and Ntini+Pollock+Langeveldt have 5 overs left. and he bowls himself --- Is Smith an Indian in disguise?

    By Blogger Gopalblog, at 15:33  

  • Yorker...back home,we cannot buy tickets on the net.Either one stands in a queue for hours and ends up emptyhanded or hang around some of the officials and check out if the can spare tickets.If one is in a Corporate ,one can expect some complimentary tickets....It has not changed any bit for a long time..

    By Blogger Ravi1010, at 15:34  

  • Maybe Smith figured that after the other batsman squandered his good start he owes it to them to sqaunder the bowling fight back :-).

    By Blogger Gopalblog, at 15:35  

  • Smith is a joke....cannot understand what SA is upto...they should bring Pollock back as captain

    By Blogger Ravi1010, at 15:35  

  • ravi1010 - I think RSA's problem is that Pollock is worse than Smith! Yet they are better than India in the ODIs, so I think so people in glass houses ...etc...

    By Blogger Gopalblog, at 15:36  

  • gopal...i disagree..pollock is a better captain.The only reason he was shunted out was bcos he could not get SA into the next stage in the WC.They had to find a scapegoat.I woulls still think that Boucher or Gibbs would make better captains

    By Blogger Ravi1010, at 15:39  

  • worma: my guess is that they will end up playing both AR and SA with Akhtar replacing AK... just a guess... anyway, they do not have a batsman that can replace either AR or SA... the only choices r one of the possible openers or malik (again a half batsman though) or someone new like bazid khan... i dont see PAK blooding new guys for this tour, but i think they will end up playing both AR and afridi though as u said they will have 2 half batsmen and will be found out really easily by freddie and co...

    By Blogger Mayur, at 15:40  

  • Ravi, So, we still live in 20th century. :( Can anyone create a site for BCCI just like the one www.ihateganguly.com so that I can express my frustration?

    By Blogger Yorker, at 15:41  

  • Yorker...But, the mail needs to be leaked for yr frustrations to be made public.Who do we give that 'responsibility' to ??

    By Blogger Ravi1010, at 15:47  

  • more than the 20th Century,it is more naccesibilty of internet to a lot of peope, the sheer numbers and a whole lot of issues. We still have people standing in queues for Railway and Cinema Tickets,inspite of internet bookings and door deliveries.More of a mind set issue

    By Blogger Ravi1010, at 15:52  

  • Ravi,lets recollect how all that happened first. Harsha Bhogle asked ganguly in post match interview and hell broke loose. So, we should start from HB. May be prem can talk HB into it. :)

    By Blogger Yorker, at 15:55  

  • Ok guys...it is 1.30 AM here.Time for me to pack up.Have a great weekend. And anyone going out for a drink,please have one additional to celebrate SG's century ....on behalf of this anonymous cricket fan in India...Cheers

    Note: On behalf....not "on account" ;D

    By Blogger Ravi1010, at 15:57  

  • mayur..in the pak squad did you list Asim Kamal? They do leave him out at times...you know. And btw...you're not expecting Afridi to open, are you? He's not gonna be a regular test opener

    By Blogger worma, at 16:02  

  • ravi, 130 am and u r packing up to go where?? Home, I hope :) Sure, I'll have a drink on your behalf, all the more excuse to get one additional drink.

    By Blogger Toney, at 16:08  

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