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Wednesday, October 26, 2005

Viru the one-dayer

Sreeram Vira, on Cricinfo, has a take on Viru Sehwag's one day blues.
Michael Slater, the aggressive former Australian Test opener, had an impressive Test record averaging 42.83 but would spontaneously combust at the crease in ODIs, managing a dismal 24.07 in 42 matches.
Likewise, Sehwag's ODI average of 31.86 from 128 matches pales in comparison against the figure of 55.32 in Tests. And it's not as if one could shrug off the failure as an aberration, or even attribute it to the pressures of international cricket. Even at the domestic level, the story is repeated. In 188 limited-overs matches, Sehwag averages 31.69 as opposed to 53.95 in the first-class arena. Slater's statistics were similarly skewed.
This strange dichotomy is rather fascinating. Why does a natural striker like Sehwag flounder in an environment where he should thrive? Sehwag offered an explanation for it, saying that he had more success in Tests because he could afford to take his time, but in one day cricket he felt that he could not do the same.


  • Viru's mindset is the most worrying aspect and Sreeram did a good job highlighting it. Viru seems to buckling under the pressure of an opening ODI batsman and is struggling to recover. RD is the prime example of how a batsman can reinvent himself and be successful. Maybe Dravid or Chappell should help Viru adjust his thinking.

    As for the other points Sreeram made, most of them seemed pretty lame and apply to all batsmen... why should Viru be surprised by them? A lame quote as an example:

    "The field placings in ODIs don't help. The inner circle is ringed in and a shot which would get him a boundary in Tests is a dot ball in the shorter form of the game. Also the pressure of setting a target or chasing one, further muddles his thinking"

    Huh?? Viru has been around long enough to know the difference in field placings between an ODI and a Test match. And, setting or chasing a target... these are explanations of why Viru's thinking may be getting mixed up?? If that's true, then Viru shouldn't be in the ODI squad because that's the whole idea of playing ODI game. Hello. Which planet is the author living on?

    By Blogger saum, at 12:44  

  • Ofcoures we all know Veeru has a problem in shorter version of the game...but Sreeram has written a kitchen-sink of an article, IMO :-)...I mean he has listed down all possible reasons (and some of them really based on wafer thin logic)...e.g. consider the reason that he has pressure due to run-drought at the other end!...what the heck?..he's been opening with Sachin most of the time...what was the run drought in the World Cup?

    Although in all of this...the actual reason may also be listed somewhere. Maybe his intention to try and hit everything out of the park?...the "Afridi Affliction" :-)

    By Blogger worma, at 13:00  

  • Completely off topic. I know all of us here on this blog (I have been a reader mostly) have discussed disected and dismissed all issues relating to Gangs, his captaincy and his comeback.

    But in light of his commitment *reported* do you guys feel he will be back. I am sure Prem et al are on cloud nine since RD is captain now and I hope he is successful but i am sure Ganguly still has a role to play.

    I can trade thousand cahppells for a Ganguly. Hope he is not allowed to slip away into retirement. If you look at the current batting order, yeah include Kaif in there too, Gangs will find a place in that line up anyday.

    and BTW should get rid of Dhoni, that guy is not there mainly to show some fireworks. He is going to cost us matches if this is the level of his keeping. God give us a Mongia if not a gilchrist.

    By Blogger pg, at 13:18  

  • pg,
    God give us a Mongia if not a Gilchrist
    Hmm, IMO Mongia's keeping skills to Kumble at his best on a day 5 crumbler give him the right to be as good as Gilchrist. Of course, Gilchrist is the better batsman beyond doubt but I assumed your point was based on keeping skills alone.

    As for SG, I hope he is back too and does wel.. It seems from all the news reports that he is making a huge effort to be fit. And he must be aware that time is running out too. So, hopefully, this new found enthusiasm will lead to a fruitful couple of years. For that, being a senior player (captain or not), he and the coach should get along too.

    By Blogger Toney, at 13:25  

  • On Veeru's one-day run drought:
    The drought actually consists of fairly decent starts, but there is a distinct failure to carry on for a bigger score. He usually scores a quick 20 or 30, with a couple of crisply timed strokes in the mix. This is indicative of a man in form, but what explains such a consistent run of mediocre scores? I'll put forth the idea that it is all mental. In other words, so much has been said about it that it preoccupies Veru's mind once he is set. I think he feels immense pressure to carry on and get a big score. While most players (mortals) respond to the pressure situation by going into a shell and attempting to accumulate runs, the ultra-aggressive players attempt to hit out. Rather than simply focusing on the delivery, Veeru's failing is he seems too intent on ending the poor run with a 100. I'm not sure if what I'm saying even makes any sense, but I do feel once Veeru does get a big score and gets the monkey off his back, many more big scores will follow. Only a matter of time...

    By Blogger Sahir, at 13:26  

  • pg..agree with toney...SG will get another run...and IMO a fair one....now its upto him to make best of the chances.

    btw..about keeping...Gilchrist is not even a good keeper...just an average one. Nowhere close to Mongia who was a very good keeper by all standards(umm...technical standards ;-)

    By Blogger worma, at 13:32  

  • pg
    "If you look at the current batting order, yeah include Kaif in there too, Gangs will find a place in that line up anyday."

    That's your opinion, but I, along with many others disagree.

    The lineup ought to look something like this:
    VS, SRT, MK, RD, YS, MSD, Allrounder, Pathan, 3 other bowlers

    The person batting at 7 has to fulfill the role of the 5th bowler consistently- at home and abroad. Ideally, it should be a bowling allrounder. Whether Yadav fits the bill remains to be seen.
    Sorry, but no place for Dada in that lineup- only possibility would be as a supersub. But even there, I have previously stated my affinity for having a spin-bowling allrounder in that position. Should India bat first, you can bring in the extra spinner on a wicket that is already worn. Should India bowl first, you add the extra bat to the lineup.

    Dhoni is going to win a lot more matches with his batting than he will lose with his keeping. Besides, it is not as if there is some other great gloveman barging in the door. Dhoni missed one stumping opportunity yesterday, but took everything else that came his way- not an easy feet on a pitch that had considerable turn and bounce. Many, many keepers would miss an opportunity or two on that sort of a wicket. Additonally, while glovework is at an absolute premium in Test cricket, in One-day cricket a large majority of deliveries are played and the keepr isn't required to take them. Dhoni is the best batsman for India down the order, even excluding the keeping skills. An average of around 38 with an Afridi-esque strike rate indicates that. Plus, in his brief career, he seems to be a pressure-situation performer. The only series in which he did not score runs was his first against Bangladesh. Certainsly don't mind if he doesn't score against Bangladesh as long as he scores against the better teams as he has done so far.

    By Blogger Sahir, at 13:41  

  • just to clarify,
    I do feel Ganguly will be given another run while Kaif is out. But I can't see him keeping Kaif out, once he is fit.

    By Blogger Sahir, at 13:42  

  • Prem/Toney/Worma:
    I totally disagree Worma's take on Gilly no being a good wicket keeper.Comparing him with Mongia is simply unfathomable.Sorry,but Gilly,if not the best,can be ranked in the top three wicket keeper's list today.And couple that with his batting,and there is no company for him.He is the best wicket keeper batsman,in my opinion.
    Toney:About SG getting another run??Does he really deserve a place in the one day squad??He would simply bring with him baggage full of dissent and resentment,i think.Dravid/SRT can be the captain for one dayers and SG can take care of the tests--a.k.a the Aussie way during the time of S.Waugh.
    PREM:- Why is it that Sunil Gavaskar is silent on Fletchers comments?Would be interesting to read your point of view.

    By Blogger sunny, at 13:42  

  • Viru has played only 61 test innings vs 129 ODI matches. Should we be comparing his averages at all? Note that Viru was granted Test status only after he was quite successful in ODIs. If he had started playing both forms of the game at the same time maybe his figures would could be compared. Who knows, his Test average could have gone down.

    By Blogger hjrsingh, at 13:43  

  • Sahir,

    You are entitled to your opinion like everyone, and good to see you can speak for "many others" as well.

    Regardless, Ganguly can win you more matches (assuming him getting into 60% of top form) than any of the Yadavs and Raos. But thats my personal opinion. And you cant, simply cant replace the experience. Its not just ganguly who has to work with Chappell, its chappell who has to work with Ganguly more when he is back, who does chappell think he is dealing with anyways not a number #11 from Zim or Bang, its ganguly, one of the best we have had. I dont see any issues between SG SRT or RD and that closes the chapter for getting along bull-crap.

    Re: Keeping, i am sure you have played enough cricket or observed, watched enough games. Hence you would know what a great feeling a bowler has when he is bowling with a keeper that he is unsure of. Add to that the quality of our bowling.

    That is just my opinion!!

    By Blogger pg, at 13:49  

  • sunny....first of all...lets leave that batting skill of Gilly aside...because there's no question mark there.

    Just looking at his keeping 'independently'...well he's a 'grabber' (in the words of Holding, if I remember correctly???)..anyways..thats an exaggerations...but he is certainly not the most nimble of all keepers....he has hard hands. Sure when he is in good form(which he wasn't in Ashes....where he was making more mistakes than Geraint Jones!) he takes up most of what comes his way....and sadly thats what we consider 'good' in today's wicketkeeping. Thats a normal keeper, IMO.

    A good keeper is one who creates chances...is ever alert(remember some of Mongia's stumpings)rises late...takes close to body...goes with both hands...I dont think Gilly does all this?

    Now about his ranking...well sure..he may be in top 3 today (actually I havent seen enough of McCullum, WI new keeper...whatsisname...etc) but that doesnt make him good.

    By Blogger worma, at 13:51  

  • DOnt know about Viru's failure reasons, could be motivational. AMong all SG's boys (ZK, HS, YS, VS etc), he is the one whose place in the team is secure. Then again he was being considered as a captain to succeed from SG - if RD is removed due to poor winning %age - that dream might yet happen in the near future, so why not hasten it by ensuring that his contribution to the team is minimal? Sounds farfetched - but then who knows (SG might be calling in favors).

    By Blogger Gardhabh, at 13:55  

  • sunny,
    When we look at cricket alone, he deserves a chance. Past experience as well as proving himself againsth the best upcoming bowlers on a quick pitch (by Indian stds) are two factors.
    As for excess baggae, some have accused him previously of being lazy at practice and also not very keen on the sessions given out by the trainer. But it seems, he is in an effort to disprove this. That shows that he has taken the right approach (rather than trying to get his version heard through his mouthpieces). And he has to get along with the team, there are no two ways about that. Hopefully, his role modle for that will be SRT. SG can be as good a mentor as SRT and I am sure RD or GC would(should) have no problems with that. Sometimes, I feel it is possible to get the ebst out of some by giving them a nice hard kick. And these are the toughest blokes too. I hope SG is tough enough to get back into the team and leave on his terms.

    By Blogger Toney, at 14:02  

  • pg,
    "You are entitled to your opinion like everyone, and good to see you can speak for "many others" as well."
    Thanks for the sarcasm; I really appreciate it.

    "Ganguly can win you more matches (assuming him getting into 60% of top form) than any of the Yadavs and Raos."
    Where in my post did I say differently? Oh wait, I did not. I did not even list Yadav and Rao as part of the team. I simply listed the top 6 and said the seventh position has to be occupied by the person that can consistently be the fifth bowler, at home an abroad. That role does not suit Ganguly.

    "Hence you would know what a great feeling a bowler has when he is bowling with a keeper that he is unsure of."

    Did you pay attention to Harbhajan Singh's reaction after Dhoni missed the stumping- he applauded and essentially said next one. How can you say the bowler's don't have confidence in Dhoni's abilities? You think they have any more confidence in the abilities of Karthik or Patel? I doubt it.

    "I dont see any issues between SG SRT or RD and that closes the chapter for getting along bull-crap."

    Prem himself told about the situation in the Nagpur Test versus Australia. There was a heated verbal atercation, with expletives flying between Dravid and Ganguly. Not to mention, the "cordial" relationship between the two was fully evident during the recent triseries in Sri Lanka where Dravid sent Ganguly to field at fine leg.
    That said, Ganguly does deserve an opportunity to play while Kaif is out. But once Kaif gets back, I do not see a position for Ganguly in the top 6, barring further injury of course.

    By Blogger Sahir, at 14:06  

  • gardhabh - RD is for sure getting us into 2007 WC. VS and SG must compete for opening slot now

    By Blogger J, at 14:07  

  • worma,
    I am not an expert on keeping but Gilli's record in that dept isnt exactly poor. I think he is the best in intl cricket and is challenged by only KS.
    Mongia, yes, to Kumble, he was the very best. But Gilli has been awesome against Warne (and MacGill) on 4th day Sydney pitches. Also, his keeping to Warne in Ndia was decent enough.
    As far as the basics of keeping are concerned, I think his two predecessors would have corrected him in this regard too, right?

    One thing I didnt like in Mongia's keeping was his approach to leg side deliveries from the quickies. I have hardly seen him dive to get those but this might be because he is not the "greatest team man".

    By Blogger Toney, at 14:07  

  • tony, sahir - I agree as a player, SG has still lot to offer and he certainly deserves a chance in ODI's

    By Blogger J, at 14:10  

  • Very interesting article by SMG in Deccan Herald.
    Caustic comments and taking names.

    By Blogger Mr. V, at 14:15  

  • Sahir:
    Helllooooo! How r you? Kaise hai aap. Minute maid orange juice pee rahen hai kya. You will need a lot of it.

    Where you up all night as well?

    ;-) Oh! What a good time to needle you? *L*

    By Blogger losing now, at 14:18  

  • The best thing Ganguly can do to contribute to the Indian team is stay out of the team. Same holds for Agarkar.

    By Blogger Ashvin Iyengar, at 14:22  

  • sahir,
    Dhoni still isnt a good keeper. He messes up too much to be called reliable. Of course, he still might be India's best bet in the ODIs but the fact that he hasnt played tests yet is an indicator.

    By Blogger Toney, at 14:22  

  • v,
    Can you send me that link? I didnt locate the column by going to the site

    By Blogger Toney, at 14:24  

  • toney:
    here it is..

    By Blogger losing now, at 14:25  

  • Toney:

    By Blogger Mr. V, at 14:26  

  • toney, here u r


    By Blogger Ashvin Iyengar, at 14:27  

  • thanks guys

    By Blogger Toney, at 14:28  

  • losing now,
    Arre yaar, kal raat ko main itna kum soya, aur ajj subha tum mujhe ched rahe ho.
    Woh sala commsioner ne roof ko kyun khulwaya.
    A closed dome atmospher with the loudest crowd was one of our biggest advantages. The statistics say it all: about 85% victories with the roof closed compared to 55% with it open. :-(

    By Blogger Sahir, at 14:29  

  • toney,
    "[Dhoni] still might be India's best bet in the ODIs"

    That is the key!

    His keeping skills haven't been any worse than Karthik's, and certainly not worse than Patel's at the end of his international stint.

    By Blogger Sahir, at 14:32  

  • wow three guys replied ot the same link request at the same time. Mujh ko to kuch kaam dhanda nahin hain. Tum log ko bhi nahin hain kya? :)

    By Blogger Ashvin Iyengar, at 14:33  

  • That article in the Decaan Herald, did I misunderstand the last few lines or is Gavaskar saying that the team management held Rao back so that he would not fail and consequently Ganguly does not get an opportunity to come back in to the team??

    By Blogger mangesh, at 14:36  

  • Sahir,

    What is the scoop about the roof opening in Houston? Why was the commissioner so adamant that it be opened. (I mean what was his reasoning to the Astros organization?)

    By Blogger Jaunty Quicksand, at 14:37  

  • sahir:
    Roof band kar lo! koi problem nahin. jab tak bases loaded - woh bhi 9th innings - strikeouts honge..tum kuch nahin kar sakte. Good luck. There is always a first time to win 4 in a row when you are down 3-0. Boss, pitching wins in playoffs..Clemens and Oswalt were a no-show and Lidge failed in a critical innings. Then you finished all your good pitchers by 13 innings..and bring in Astacio..what was Wagner smoking. This is the world series dude. If you go down 3-0 you are practically out. throw the kitchen sink. I would have brought back Pettitte (rest or no rest)..his best pitcher to date. I think Wagner did not manage the game well and he was angry at the hitters (which is a legit issue!).
    Well .. enjoy tonight. Great series though

    By Blogger losing now, at 14:37  

  • Sahir,

    "Prem himself told about the situation in the Nagpur Test versus Australia. There was a heated verbal atercation, with expletives flying between Dravid and Ganguly."

    If I recall, Ganguly didnt play the game at Nagpur, but I dont keep stats in my head. Prem, well he might have been in the dressing room or tapping phone lines.

    But lets take his word for it, do you believe that two individuals with that kind of following and stature will always get along?? Do you seriously think that Gavaskar and Kapil used to exchange high fives in the dressing room or go for double dates??

    This is part of the dressing room and always will be, as long as the ones who are playing the game are human.

    Fielding at fine-leg, well thats where SG would belong if he is not the captain and has to instruct the field but so would the Kumble's the VVS, the Bhajjis and even the sehwags (soon the way he is bloating). Whats the big deal in that.

    "Did you pay attention to Harbhajan Singh's reaction after Dhoni missed the stumping- he applauded and essentially said next one."

    What is he supposed to say- mate you fu*&^% up get your ass outa here???? But doesnt say he he happy or confident about the "next one".

    Dont forget Bhajji was in good form that day (which is rare) any other day he needs every chance to be converted and every half chance to be realized. Bhajji has been given enough chances in India, any other bowler might loose a career as no one remembers the keeper messing up chances or not converting half chances. Bowler will be the fall guy, and that my friend is NOT something a bowler want to feel towards his keeper. Mind games can kill you before the selectors will.

    Anyways, may be I shouldn't have been sarcastic in my earlier posts but i guess as a ganguly "fan"atic and you being a "moderate" (???) it will be hard to have a decent dialogue. To me Ganguly is the first ever indian captain (in the last 25 years of me watching cricket) that gave a feeling that a team is playing for your pride and that took some doing. And i can still see the fire in the guy but for the fickle memory of Indians and the lack of support. I dont think Jags has really helped Gangs cause as the enemies of Jags are also enemies of SG and that to me is hurting his chances more than his form.

    Anyways this will be endless!! Thanks for sharing your thoughts..

    By Blogger pg, at 14:43  

  • sahir : I meant garner..not wagner. You can tell i did not sleep well either.

    By Blogger losing now, at 14:46  

  • pg an indian team spot is not a posting like ambassador of India to a foreign country that the Indian govt doles out for gratitude for services rendered, it is like being on the battlefield, if you are past the age of doing active duty, the army doesnt send you there.

    By Blogger Gardhabh, at 14:51  

  • sahir: Here's a great article on all the second guessing ..and my assessment of why "Phil Garner" did not manage the game well.. enjoy.

    To others.. sorry guys for off-topic posts. But a Chicago World Series win is an event that happens ..well..once in 45+ years. So please indulge me. i need to gloat a bit. That was the last post on this topic.

    By Blogger losing now, at 14:54  

  • pg: Do me a favor, mate? I have no problems with you guys, if you wish, endlessly debating Saurav Ganguly; the favor I ask is, don't drag me into it. In case I need to spell it out in so many words, I am invariably on cloud nine when my team does well; when it plays to potential; when it shows character on the field (given those three, I don't even mind a defeat, as long as it is evident everyone tried their damndest). And by the same token, I am down in the dumps when the team plays badly; I don't watch this team because Dravid is playing and Ganguly is not; I lose sleep watching it because it is my team and I want it, in its individual components and in the collective, to do well.
    Hope that serves as clarification enough -- and that I can be left out of a debate that, to my mind, is futile.

    By Blogger Prem Panicker, at 14:56  

  • toney...am also not much of an expert in judging keepers...but from what little I have seen, read, heard...

    >>I am not an expert on keeping but Gilli's record in that dept isnt exactly poor.

    But how do you judge how good a keeper is by the records? As I said...he fairly decent....does his job ok...so you wont find the too much in the 'missed chances' column even if you can dig up such stats for him. Although he was nearly horrible in Ashes :-)

    >>I think he is the best in intl cricket and is challenged by only KS.

    Well thats not saying much, is it?...although IMO Boucher's slighlty better(or 'was' better) in technique keeping in mind the fact that he doesnt have much practise against good spinners...Also Akmal is fairly good. Sangakkara is not very good either...Kalu was a good keeper (and SL persisted with him as long as they could afford two keepers)

    >>Mongia, yes, to Kumble, he was the very best. But Gilli has been awesome against Warne (and MacGill) on 4th day Sydney pitches.

    As I said earlier...he's adequate..not awesome or spectacular. Healy was great...but besides pointing out the technical issues..what more can one say in this argument.....maybe if we watch the videos..that would show a lot. Btw, as I said, I remember reading technical criticism of Gilly. And this topic has been discussed here earlier also. Lets see if Prem has something to add.

    >>Also, his keeping to Warne in Ndia was decent enough.

    Sure..decent enough is not 'good'. Thats the whole point I've been trying to make.

    >>As far as the basics of keeping are concerned, I think his two predecessors would have corrected him in this regard too, right?

    Well not necessarily...its not all about right coaching..is it?

    >>One thing I didnt like in Mongia's keeping was his approach to leg side deliveries from the quickies. I have hardly seen him dive to get those but this might be because he is not the "greatest team man".

    This is one of the biggest misconceptions about keeping to pace bowling...that good keeper has to dive..its not true...it can be about nimble footedness....having to dive as less as possible...supplementing with feet movement. And btw, this is also something which I have learnt(and understood) from critical analysis on articles/tv etc.

    By Blogger worma, at 14:58  

  • Prem,

    point taken! and as i mentioned as well, it is endless.

    I didnt bring you into it in the first place.

    Who plays who doesnt as long as India palys with fire and gives its best, amen to that.

    Lets leave the issue of ganguly being included/excluded but to me he is the guy who brought that fire to this team.


    By Blogger pg, at 15:02  

  • worma,
    When I said "decent enough", I mean decent enough to say he is good. I did not say his keeping is decent period :)
    As for the diving, sure Mongia was nimble footed but that doesnt mean that he ever attempted (at least from memory) collecting any of those wayward deliveries down the leg while almost every other keeper makes an effort to do this. However nimble footed one is, the very little time that deliveries from a pace bowler take to reach the keeper doesnt leave them with much option there but to dive. And no, I wasnt grading keepers on their diving skills at all.

    By Blogger Toney, at 15:09  

  • pg: Oh, to me too. That is why -- I love patting myself on the back! :-) -- I constantly reference this one thing -- that way before anyone, selectors, commentators, whoever, thought of it, I argued at length the case for the captaincy to be given to SG (Ironically, at that time, I was criticized because people felt if Sachin didn't want it, Dravid was the natural heir!). And in that piece, the one point I harped on was, that I wasn't sure of his strategic skills, but I'd back his hunger, and his backbone, any day. After all that has passed, the good and the bad, I see no reason to change that opinion -- in those post match-fixing days, with SRT playing Achilles and running off to Lonavla each time a captain was to be picked, Saurav was the only person who could have turned the team around; he did, and that will need mention, prominently, in any history of Indian cricket. And no, I am not changing my opinion or whatever -- again, a while back, I had written that the best thing for Saurav to do was to take a voluntary sabbatical, to go away and work on his game, just get back to where he was walking out without dreading mishaps; ideally, that to include a brief stint at the Aussie academy where they are no respecters of persons, and would have tried him in the furnace. That done, all he had to do was come back and announce that he was fit and in form again, and the selectors would have given him the captain's armband with caviar around it. Anyways, water under the bridge...

    By Blogger Prem Panicker, at 15:09  

  • toney...about Mongia not diving for 'non-cricketing' reasons can be something...or are you saying that he didnt have that capability or technique? Atleast I dont remember thus. Sure he also dove to stop those wayward leg side deliveries? Even if not in all the matches...yet..

    anyways...this argument not going anywhere :)

    By Blogger worma, at 15:17  

  • worma, exactly. I cant remember the original discussion point before scrolling up :)

    By Blogger Toney, at 15:20  

  • Fish -- meeting. Back later, peoples.

    By Blogger Prem Panicker, at 15:31  

  • Is Cricket all about batting? Or does it include fielding, running between the wickets, fitness, catching etc? How do you rate Ganguly in each one of the category? It all depends on what kind of vision you have for your team.

    I will go with a team that can play Total Cricket. Fielding is a must backed up by either bowing and/or batting. I will also give importance to physical fitness, running between the wickets and ability to take singles and twos. In my vision, ganguly type players just don’t fit in. Like you said, this is just my opinion.

    While Ganguly’s experience is valuable but team Chemistry is more important than his experiences. The best combination should play and in that process Ganguly like players have to be let go.

    By Blogger G285, at 15:52  

  • pg,
    I guess we can agree to disagree, but just for your info, since you seem unaware of the situation, the altercation at the Nagpur test was based on a supposed feigned injury on the part of Ganguly (supposedly upset over condition of pitch).

    On your comment about people not remembering a keeper's missed chances. I beg to differ. That, unfortunately is the only thing people remember about a kepper's glovework. And Harbhajan has notoriously admonished keepers (Patel and Dasgupta come readily to mind) for missing chances, even when he was in good form. So the positive reaction from him yesterday was good to see. Dhoni may not be the most athletic wicketkeeper, or have the ability to take stunners, but so far he has not missed many regulations opportunities. He has taken most of everything that has come his way. No other keeper in the country is markedly better with the gloves! If there is somebody, then the debate can go on, but right now Dhoni is definitely the best option in ODIs. It's certainly a moot point discussing his position in the side given Greg Chappell's affinity towards him.

    By Blogger Sahir, at 16:03  

  • losing now,
    I agree with the article; Phil Garner has made a lot of questionable decisions during the course of the series.

    By Blogger Sahir, at 16:06  

  • No offense (no pun intended)..but the way the Astros have played so far they dont deserve to be in the Series! Lets see if the Series goes back to Chicago! : )

    Story so far: An AL team playing better 'small ball' (or 'smart ball' as per Ozzie) than a NL team!

    By Blogger obelix, at 16:16  

  • Sehwag's ODI performance is unbalanced as can be proved by combining the SR and averages for tests and ODIs. Most players do better in ODIs as this is the right format to maximise this. An example of this is SR Tendulkar whose "test product" is 33.20, (est.) while his "ODI product" is 38.45. Here are other Indian top order batsmen and some of the fastest test batsmen (with recorded SRs).

    Name . . . .. . . . Test Product . ODI Product
    Sehwag . . . . . . . . . 40.69 . . . . . . 30.41 (second best recorded Test product, OdI product NOT bad!)
    Sachin . . . . . . . . .. 33.20 . . . . . . .38.45
    Dravid . . . . . . . . . .24.28 . . . . . . 27.75
    Laxman . . . . . . . .. 21.92 . . . . . . .22.21
    Ganguly . . . . . .. . . 20.21 . . . . . . .30.00

    Gilchrist (aus) . . . .43.66!! . . . . . 34.87 !! (the best match, Gilchrist is a 10% better)
    Lara (wi) . . . . . . . 32.63 . . . . . . . 32.90
    G Smith (sa) . . . . .32.61 . . . . . . . 30.28
    Ponting (aus) . . . . 32.43 . . . . . .. 32.90
    Jayasuriya (sl) . . .. 27.29 . . .. . . . 28.44
    Sangrakarra (sl) .. . 25.90 . . . . . . 24.42
    Trescothick (eng) .. 25.02 . . . . . . 32.29
    Slater (aus) . . . . . .22.83 . . . . . . 14.53 (sr of 60.4!!!) - (how can anyone compare Sehwag with Slate - must have lost their minds)
    Gayle (wi) . . .. . . . 21.86 . . . . .. . 30.62
    Flintoff (eng) . .. . . 21.24 . . . . .. . 31.15 (not a top order bat)

    "ODI product" is highly relevant to ODIs. Thus Sehwag's 30.41 is actually decent. Sehwag is closest to Gilchrist (who is a class apart). Also please stop comparing him to the FAILURE Slater. If "Test product" is some indication of natural stroke-playing ability, then Sehwag is definitely underperforming. There must be a way to get more from Sehwag. One of which must be not to emulate Gilchrist; instead build up a good innings (> 50) a la Sachin (the best in the business) before cutting loose in his usual fashion. I hope Sachin can make him see sense.

    By Blogger IssaicN, at 18:05  

  • ""If you look at the current batting order, yeah include Kaif in there too, Gangs will find a place in that line up anyday."

    I sometimes think this is the reason Gangs used to favour guys like Kaif, Yuvraj, Mongia etc - because there wasnt much chance of these guys overshadowing him so when it comes to situations like these, arguments like these will settle in his favour :-)
    I seriously believe we encouraged Kair, Yuvraj far too longer than we should have (at the cost of people like Badani, who with the same backing as these guys could have developed into a solid batsman for India) and now, we are like, sayimg, "Okay these guys have been here long time so it is easy to develop these guys further than investing in new talent".

    Also, is that the reason why Lax was dropped for Mongia in the World Cup? Prem, your take?

    By Blogger raj, at 04:44  

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