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Friday, November 18, 2005

Chappell on the Proteas

The Proteas, says Greg Chappell, are beatable. No argument there -- the question we are awaiting answers for is whether Team India as it is now can do the deed. What raised my eyebrows in this particular story is this line (emphasis added):
"All teams are a challenge. South Africa are on the rise and their recent one-day record is very good. But we know that they're beatable, and I have no doubt that we'll win some games in this series. I won't say that it's a bigger challenge, just a different one," Chappell told reporters here.

It's all rhetoric, I know -- I do wish, though, that the talk was about aiming to win the series, not 'some' games.

180 Comments:

  • Yep, that caught my eye too. Slip of toungue? Very strange considering it came from the much vaunted tough guy Chappell...

    By Blogger Multy, at 16:57  

  • yep..funny...my guess is GC is also becoming a smart-ass politically correct person. If not he will be eaten up by media. For ex. If he came out and say we will win this series and failed to do so, the whole media world will quote his statement and bash the crap out of him. "Some Games" is politically correct. Hell it could mean 1 out of 4 or 4 out of 4. very hazy territory...

    By Blogger greg2rescue, at 17:09  

  • IMHO , the word came from the slip of GC's tongue

    By Blogger gangulysucks, at 17:20  

  • greg2rescue:
    Well, he had another way to say it if he wanted avoid making bold predictions, and that would be to say that "SA is beatable and as far as I see it, we still have a very good chance of winning it" or something along those lines.. I dont know, to me "some games" was a touch too defensive (or not aggressive enough)...

    By Blogger Multy, at 17:20  

  • greg2rescue, First of all I think GC didn't expect 6-1 victory against SL and he knew that still there are some areas thats needs improvment which can be exposed by good teams. I think he is careful about what he says.

    By Blogger squarecut, at 17:21  

  • I am with squarecut on this one

    I'll rather have him say this rather than come out like Mcgrath with a 5-0 prediction

    We are playing a very strong team and even if we win the series, it's not going to be a whitewash

    so really win some games is what we need

    By Blogger suraj, at 17:23  

  • Our bowling is still very weak. Our batting has to fire and score big for out bowling to defend. On flat tracks anything less than 300 won't be enough.

    By Blogger squarecut, at 17:26  

  • I would be happy if we can pull out couple of wins considering SA is superior in bowling/feilding.

    By Blogger squarecut, at 17:29  

  • as for aggressive games

    I think SA is too good a team right now to get bogged down by some mental games

    By Blogger suraj, at 17:31  

  • Prem,

    Actually I like Chappell's pragmatism. His presence in the team think tank and the public sphere of cricket produces a much needed tempering influence. He is well aware that the Indian team has some ways to go before it becomes as clinical as South Africa and Australia. We've to stop the juggernaut tomorrow...

    By Blogger mustt_mustt, at 17:32  

  • GC rocks

    By Blogger gangulysucks, at 17:38  

  • I just wish we win a few aganst SA- it will really prove that we have improved and it was not only SL underperformance that made us succesful

    By Blogger suraj, at 17:40  

  • @*,

    As for GC, I think he was just setting the expectation level , the man knows what he is talking about. His message has been consistent.

    After the final IND_SL game, Dravid was asked about IND_SA games. He mentioned something to the effect of "giant killing act". I was bit surprised because Dravid normally is a measured person.

    -TU

    By Blogger thirdempire, at 17:42  

  • Suraj.. GC is spot on... The big prize is not aseris win against SA... We need to win the WC.. In the process, there may be mis steps, but that should add to the knowledge base instead of being national disasters as the loss at Hyd was portrayed.

    By Blogger SHRI, at 17:43  

  • @*,

    posting dravids after-match-interview.

    http://in.rediff.com/cricket/2005/nov/12dravid.htm

    -TU

    By Blogger thirdempire, at 17:44  

  • agree shri- I was never in favor of huge statements before matches

    aggressive stance is over-rated

    By Blogger suraj, at 17:45  

  • aggresive stance is OK if we have own last 20 matches but its not the case here. GC is not a fool to gloat over 6-1
    victory over SL.

    By Blogger squarecut, at 17:47  

  • @*,

    What is the prediction about todays game. What would be the team composition like. Any chance of JPY coming in place of GG.

    I think it would be good if we have GG inplace of Kaif and JPY as the super-sub.

    any comments ?

    -TU

    By Blogger thirdempire, at 17:48  

  • GG should open considering Pollock don't like bowling to lefties.

    By Blogger squarecut, at 17:48  

  • I think GC is being shrewd in that he is re caliberating the nations expectations post Hyd... And prolly sending a message to the team that there is no pressure wrt results....

    By Blogger SHRI, at 17:48  

  • am with u Third.. But I also think that raina should be in the playing XI

    By Blogger SHRI, at 17:49  

  • @shri,

    I think you raised an interesting point. Since Ind has been underpressure and have faltered more ofen then not , when there is huge expectation, especially against tough oppositions.

    If SA lets IND play the natural game then, we have a match on, other wise IND has to wait for SA to make mistakes.

    -TU

    By Blogger thirdempire, at 17:52  

  • I am bit irritated with all these pre match speeches. If you think about it, it amounts to nothing, what finally counts is how we performed in the middle. Why do i get this feeling too much importance is given to these speeches and we end up complicating things.

    My blog

    By Blogger Realms, at 17:53  

  • Prem (and others), I wonder if you read this cricinfo article that argues Pollack is much less effective bowling to lefties than right-handers?:

    http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/columns/content/story/134987.html

    ". . .unlike McGrath, Pollock doesn't enjoy bowling to left-handers. And, if the numbers are anything to go by, it isn't only a slight dislike - he absolutely abhors bowling to them. In all Tests since September 2001, only 22 of his 108 wickets have been left-handers, and they have come at the exorbitant cost of more than 42 apiece. Compare that to a measly average of 17 against right-handers, and what comes out is a startlingly skewed picture. . ."

    By Blogger roublen, at 17:53  

  • anybody login on sportingstreams today??
    why its not allowing to open account??

    By Blogger MAHER, at 17:54  

  • @squrecut,

    My line up would be

    GG-SRT-{RD-MSD-VS-YS}-IP-AA-HS-MK-RPS

    @shri,

    I agree, he is a good player , rotates strikes beatifully, from what I have seen , looks like a solid person. I guess he can come either in place of GG / Kaif or when one ht big three {SRT/RD/VS} is rested .

    -TU

    By Blogger thirdempire, at 17:57  

  • Also SA will be under pressure coz they will be chasing thier 21st victory on the tro.. and before the series with Oz, they will surely want to use that record to needle the australians...
    GC saying that hey, we can win some, but we might also lose, but thats not important shifts the entire focus from the Indian team to the proteas...

    By Blogger SHRI, at 17:57  

  • @maher,

    I am able to login to sporing streams. But I dont know the game id for the IND-SA series. I also bought Willow tv. which is much better.

    -TU

    By Blogger thirdempire, at 18:00  

  • I think media/fans are unneccesarily creating pressure after HYD loss. Hope GC/RD are smart enough to ignore that.

    By Blogger squarecut, at 18:00  

  • I would actually prefer if Sehwag is rested this match.. after all the noise that the indians have been making about Sehwag firing, his absence will definately upset the proteas planning... raina is an unknown commodity.. with the ability to bowl off spin.. plus a left hand bat..

    GG
    SRT
    SR
    RD
    VS/Kaif
    YS
    MSD
    IP
    AA
    HS
    RP
    JPY

    left right left right all the way thru...

    By Blogger SHRI, at 18:01  

  • @realms,

    Pre-match comments are usually to get an idea about team composition. But now a days teams use this oppurtunity to gain psyco-advantage. But not sure how effective is that.

    Another angle is the press is also very hungry for news bites.

    -TU

    By Blogger thirdempire, at 18:02  

  • @third..

    did u opened account today on ss or its ur old account??
    Willow, for us canadians is expensive man, u coz of late night timings i am not going watch full matches

    By Blogger MAHER, at 18:04  

  • @shri,

    if Raina is brought in place of VS, he would be under tremendous pressure. Also this game is almost like a must win scenario. COming back from 0-2 is much harder.

    -tu

    By Blogger thirdempire, at 18:04  

  • the press exaggerates.. but the players are also more media savvy..at the end of the day, its the effort put in tht matters.. and i thought that the indians were flat.. throughout the match
    was it because of hieghtened expectations or was it because of fatigue.. dunno.

    By Blogger SHRI, at 18:05  

  • @maher,

    No I did not open the account today. I guess they has stopped taking subscriptions, not sure.

    Agree willow is expensive. But the feed is pretty good.

    -tu

    By Blogger thirdempire, at 18:06  

  • @shri,

    the body language was not +ve, I think the SA took them by surprise.

    -TU

    By Blogger thirdempire, at 18:07  

  • body language won't be +ve if you loose 5 wickets for nothing. We lost it in the
    first 12 overs.

    By Blogger squarecut, at 18:11  

  • dunno if it was the proteas or the exaggerated seam movement.. think the team lost it when they saw the ball move as much...

    By Blogger SHRI, at 18:11  

  • off to see the hobart test... take care guys

    By Blogger SHRI, at 18:12  

  • @shri,

    I guess the hall-mark of tough teams is coming back from behind or reacting to different situations or situations that teams are not used to. I think IND was found wanting in that respect.

    But all credit to the lower order batting. But was a bit disappointed with the fielding / bowling.

    -TU

    By Blogger thirdempire, at 18:14  

  • EAST OR WEST... TAMIL Girls are the best... Next Telegus.. Bengalis way down the list

    By Blogger tami_telu_Nort, at 18:22  

  • I personally prefer the agressive stance. Tells the opposition that You are strong and you are ready. What is wrong in saying "if we play to potential and plan, we can win this series". Reality is this...We are #7 on the ODI list. SA are #2 on the list. They would have been the outright favorites if we had not drubbed SL. Now the expectation of indian public (and mine) is we will win every game. Time to face the truth that we still have a long way to go, but, we are on the right track...

    Anyway, media (and us) are reading too much in between every line of what every person has to say. I think this is one of those times where everybody is on the edge. Everything is blown out of proportions...

    By Blogger greg2rescue, at 18:40  

  • @tami telu nort

    had an opportunity to sleep with a tam girl...was as cold as ice in bed...in general they stink of sambar and rasam..and figures like.. sighs....delhi girls are the juiciest and the sexiest. Poora Mal. North girls farrr better than southies.

    By Blogger From the great Waugh to the fucker called Ponting, at 18:41  

  • thirdempire, well said...I would like to see how our boys come out today and go about their jobs. All this "process is important...results are not" is a load of bull crap. Nobody gives a fuck about how hard you tried...Did you pass or did you fail ? End results matter...

    By Blogger greg2rescue, at 18:42  

  • suraj, where are you ??? Your friend tami is here (again).

    By Blogger greg2rescue, at 18:44  

  • guys any site to watch this game?

    By Blogger Vick, at 18:59  

  • Clarke fails again, predicatably. Channel 9 tells that M. Hayden joins Ken Barrington and Don Bradman as the only person to score more 4 test hundreds in back to back Test Matches. Now thats some turnaround for the big man.

    By Blogger Dark Nights, at 18:59  

  • what nonsense are we talking about?
    u mean the aim is not to win the series? i think each team aims to win every match - every one of them; they definitely succeed everytime...

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 19:04  

  • they definitely do not succeed everytime..

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 19:05  

  • watch the match live here

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 19:10  

  • India have to win today's match. I dont see India coming back after being 2-0 down to win the series.

    Meanwhile, the future of Aussie batting at display at Hobart, Hussey and Hodge albeit against mediocre bowling.

    By Blogger Dark Nights, at 19:12  

  • India will try their best; enjoy the show and never mind about the result; it is not about winning or losing - it is how you play - play hard and honest and things will be fine. no emotional crap needed.

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 19:26  

  • @yacrick...winning is everything. Otherwise go and watch ameatuers play.

    By Blogger Dark Nights, at 19:32  

  • India will try their best--- what shit... If you are bioasting about the best batting line up, the best bowlers ( this blog has showered so much parise baout Irfan, AGARKAR, Srresanth RP,) and the best captain and the wall you neeed to win that to home ground ..whcih cahppel has made into a slow and truning one... shame on you if you cant make it happen... actually the fault lies on captiancy.. if you do not know how to make changes and field palcemnets you are bound to fail..

    By Blogger tami_telu_Nort, at 19:36  

  • tami,

    r u a tamil guy ??

    By Blogger gangulysucks, at 19:38  

  • Indian Guy-- no regionalism

    By Blogger tami_telu_Nort, at 19:40  

  • bRing back balaji

    By Blogger tami_telu_Nort, at 19:41  

  • Tami,

    Congrats ! SG became the Captain of West Bengal

    By Blogger gangulysucks, at 19:41  

  • Gnaguly will be the captin of India... Dalmiya and Ganguly will run India

    By Blogger tami_telu_Nort, at 19:42  

  • Tami,

    SG to be Captain for Women's Cricket to play along with Nagma ?

    By Blogger gangulysucks, at 19:43  

  • Bring back balaji and sadgopan ramesh

    By Blogger tami_telu_Nort, at 19:43  

  • Bring back balaji and sadgopan ramesh

    By Blogger tami_telu_Nort, at 19:43  

  • Tami,

    Don't Spoil Tamil Nadu's name

    By Blogger gangulysucks, at 19:44  

  • Dravid the best lloking girl from b'lore will be the chherleader

    By Blogger tami_telu_Nort, at 19:44  

  • Bring back balaji and sadgopan ramesh

    By Blogger tami_telu_Nort, at 19:45  

  • Bring back balaji and sadgopan ramesh

    By Blogger tami_telu_Nort, at 19:45  

  • 5 wickets have gone down at Hobart and its still not lunch...mixture of good bowling and wickets gifted..finally looks like a Test match. :)

    6/317

    By Blogger Dark Nights, at 19:45  

  • Aussies collapsing!

    By Blogger losing now, at 19:45  

  • Bring back balaji and sadgopan ramesh ... drop Karthik

    By Blogger tami_telu_Nort, at 19:47  

  • West Indies 149
    Australia 321/6 (86.4 ov) Australia lead by 172 runs with 4 wickets remaining in the 1st innings

    Australia RR: 3.70


    Minimum overs
    remaining today: 84.2

    By Blogger tami_telu_Nort, at 19:50  

  • another one goes. Warne out 7/324

    By Blogger losing now, at 19:57  

  • just saw , The Partner sites for indiancricket.net is nothing but sportingstreams

    looking fishy ? We are cheated

    By Blogger gangulysucks, at 20:04  

  • The Username and Password for indiancricket.net is the same as sportingstreams.

    Man , this sucks just like SG

    By Blogger gangulysucks, at 20:05  

  • guys:
    any word on the changes to the playing 11??? i would like to see raina for kaif at the least.

    By Blogger ramshorns, at 20:14  

  • gs: is there a live link available thru indiancricket.net. how do we get it and pay for it

    By Blogger losing now, at 20:14  

  • It will be Raina for Kaif and supersub will be Santh.
    Kaif and Kartik will be dropped;

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 20:15  

  • yacrik:
    is it your choice or is this official.

    By Blogger ramshorns, at 20:19  

  • my choice = usually becomes official !

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 20:21  

  • Ramshorns...good to see you...would you agree with me that this is a must win match for India...for the probability of coming back from 2-0 to win 3-2 is darn difficult?

    By Blogger Dark Nights, at 20:28  

  • Magnifiecent 50 from Brad Hodge...was a treat to watch.

    By Blogger Dark Nights, at 20:29  

  • yacrik:
    let's hope so. also i would like sehwag to click. if not they need to bench the guy for 3rd odi and seriously think of GG as the option. this guy i heard was the most casual of all the players on the field in hyd match. i had eye witnesses at the game tell me that. he let couple of boundaries slip by in the deep where with a dive could have saved them both. so i would seriously consider him benching if he does not click.
    enough of this GC/RD bull shit that he can fire anytime. FYI... Players of the caliber of VVS have been sent out. sehwag is no special. no i don't want to hear about bowling couple of meaningless over. he is selected as a batsman and he need to score. as simple as that. or the exit door.

    By Blogger ramshorns, at 20:30  

  • darknights:
    thanks. agreed. absolutley. must win game for india or else all the good work in SL series would be for nothing. and the soap opera starts. SG special. what a joke that would be????

    By Blogger ramshorns, at 20:32  

  • God! Who is sportingstreams kidding with this indiancricket.net stuff. Ripping us off! I mean they just got another 1591 people to sign up at this site-- that's an additional $19,092!

    By Blogger Sahir, at 20:32  

  • dark nights,
    who gets dropped once Langer comes back in the next Test?

    By Blogger Sahir, at 20:33  

  • Sehwag can't be dropped - as simple as that. VS is the next big thing; he is an alrounder; he will get a decent one later today; he is dynamic; explosive; he is the best we have; VS is the man

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 20:33  

  • Aus next test will be simple -
    Clarke goes out and Ponting takes up #4.

    Langer
    Hayden
    Hussey
    Ponting
    Hodge
    Symonds
    Gilchrist
    Warne
    Lee
    McGrath
    Bracken/MacGill

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 20:35  

  • Hello guys. should be a cracket later in the morning my time. What do you think is the team going to be.

    By Blogger Prem Panicker, at 20:38  

  • yacrik:
    i know you know better than that. come on man. this is serious stuff. not charity cricket. IMO everone including SRT is dispensible. this guy sehwag can sometimes be a bum on the field. he need a wakeup call. your mind set need to change.

    By Blogger ramshorns, at 20:41  

  • fake prem:
    entertain us. pizza will be on me for you. i will see how close come to the man himself.

    By Blogger ramshorns, at 20:42  

  • ramshorns, yacrik: what say you, mate. I don't think Sehwag can be dropped easily. We need him for bowling as well. They might go with one spinner especially considering the dew factor. Sehwag is our spin option. He could get firing anytime. Time will tell. Hope they aim to win the series and not just some matches.

    By Blogger Prem Panicker, at 20:44  

  • yacrik,
    Not too sure the selectors dispense with Clarke just yet. I'm guessing that either they do away with 5 bowler theory by getting rid of Symonds or they actually drop Hussey despite such a large score. One thing is for certain-- Hodge should and will stay-- the guy definitely looks like a star batsman.

    By Blogger Sahir, at 20:44  

  • India will suck again; they sucked with Wadekar, they sucked with Gavaskar, and then with Kapil, Azhar, Sachin, Ganguly. The sucking never stops. Under Dravid, it will really stink now.

    By Blogger indiasucks, at 20:45  

  • Anybody watching the match on SGstream? What is the event name?

    By Blogger bouncer, at 20:46  

  • no fake mate. just trying to fool the blockers. cool? just in for a quick peek. IA duty calls, mate. busy mate.

    By Blogger Prem Panicker, at 20:50  

  • indiasucks,
    We did win the World Cup under Kapil-- that's pretty decent, don't you think?

    By Blogger Sahir, at 20:50  

  • bouncer,
    the event at sgstream is always the venue-- Bangalore

    By Blogger Sahir, at 20:51  

  • fake prem:
    my take on sehwag is fire or get fired. it is high time.

    By Blogger ramshorns, at 20:53  

  • India sucks - tell me mate. When I went to Dravid's house for a chai a few years ago, he told me the same thing. India suck - surprise to hear that from Mr. Nice Guys, if you know what I mean, mate.

    By Blogger Prem Panicker, at 20:54  

  • f prem:
    get your hits up and then may be you can fool more people.

    By Blogger ramshorns, at 20:54  

  • sahir,

    thanks pal. I was trying with that since yesterday, but it seems they are allowing you to purchase only now. I bought it.
    Hope it will be a dandy.

    By Blogger bouncer, at 20:54  

  • Prem Panicker ... Not India .... You suck mate .... big time ..... stop masquerading and try to be yourself .... Is that asking for too much

    By Blogger indCric, at 20:56  

  • guys:
    how much is SG charging and how is the reception etc. Any feedback welcome.

    By Blogger ramshorns, at 20:57  

  • The Proteas, says Greg Chappell, are beatable. No argument there -- the question we are awaiting answers for is whether Team India as it is now can do the deed. What raised my eyebrows in this particular story is this line (emphasis added):
    "All teams are a challenge. South Africa are on the rise and their recent one-day record is very good. But we know that they're beatable, and I have no doubt that we'll win some games in this series. I won't say that it's a bigger challenge, just a different one," Chappell told reporters here.

    It's all rhetoric, I know -- I do wish, though, that the talk was about aiming to win the series, not 'some' games

    Mate - tell me onething. why only 'some' games. Why not the series. I guess I better watch some real cricket; start watching England-Pakistan and Aus-WI !

    When I went to SRT's house for his brother engagement, he showed me a few tapes that he had of McGrath and Warne. Oh boy what a collection. The point is SRT is a student and loves to know about cricket.

    By Blogger Prem Panicker, at 21:00  

  • 1983 was a big fluke, out of character for India. they are born to lose

    By Blogger indiasucks, at 21:00  

  • PP .... You need to get a life .... and perhaps a mate .... what say mate

    By Blogger indCric, at 21:01  

  • I love it mate, when India wins. As simple as that. When they lose, I cry. Got any problems with that?

    By Blogger Prem Panicker, at 21:02  

  • PP .... None mate ... none .... No problems with your philosophy .....Its your identity thats a problem mate ....

    By Blogger indCric, at 21:04  

  • @Sahir,

    Its difficult to predict Aussie selectors but I think in all fairness M. Clarke should be dropped from the Test side. Of course, he will come back later into the test side with a tighter technique. He's only 24. But with Hussy showing such good form, it will be very harsh on him to be axed after a 100. But that possibility looks real.

    "http://foxsports.news.com.au/story/0,8659,17291812-23212,00.html"

    The selectors also might just want to give one more chance to Clarke. Its really a complex scenario, as with ageing bowling attack and 2 spinners, they are likely to go in with an all rounder like Symo / Watson (both not test all rounders in book though), there are only 5 specialist batter slots after excluding Gilly. Ponting and Hayden pick themselves. Langer / Hussey/ Clarke /Martyn (if hes still in contention ), Hodge ...2 to pick from. So Id rather not see Clarke. Now that would make the selection simple. However Mark Taylor on air just said that he would rather have 24 year olds in the side than 32 year olds. If Trevor Hohns thinks like that, then Clarke probably lives on to fight another Test.

    By Blogger Dark Nights, at 21:06  

  • dark nights: It wont be clarke .... If you were watching the morning AUS - WI telecast, all the commentators were of the opirnion that the age factor makes Clarke a firm "no" to drop ...... I saw Hodge today and he was impressive .... If Langer comes back ... most likely Hussey goes .... There is an outside chance that even Symonds goes ....

    By Blogger indCric, at 21:08  

  • f prem:
    i like the one about the engagement. now does srt has a younger bro or is this the older one you are talking about.

    By Blogger ramshorns, at 21:11  

  • Greame Smith's preview to the 2nd ODI:

    http://www.hindu.com/2005/11/19/stories/2005111905951900.htm

    By Blogger Dark Nights, at 21:11  

  • @indcrick...yes so a conservative guess means an exit for Symonds...4 bowlers should be enuf on the evidence of the WI batting so far.

    So Clarke may live on to play at Adelaide. But the question remains..how long a rope are the selectors gonna give him... hes searching for the big one round the corner...hes nervous..it shows in the way he's batting...and SA should be a tougher opponent than this WI outfit...2 of the the venues are Perth and MCG..... And Clake has'nt really made an empahtic statement against quality pace till now.

    By Blogger Dark Nights, at 21:17  

  • I Am not sure if it will be Symonds .... He is fighting for the allrounders slot ..... Not really a pure batsmans slot .... More over it is highly unlikely that the aussies will swing the proverbial axe after just one try .... MY guess is Hussey ....

    By Blogger indCric, at 21:23  

  • chalo.. lee out!

    By Blogger losing now, at 21:25  

  • 8/362

    By Blogger losing now, at 21:25  

  • Ravi Shastri's column in todays TOI print edition ( sorry cdnt find an URL for this one):

    India will have to ‘think’ out SA



    By Ravi Shastri




    South Africa’s victory at Hyderabad is a reminder to Indians that the 6-1 win over the Sri Lankans is a thing of the past. Unless a team is allsystems-go at all times, it cannot win consistently, and I think India were a bit lax in the opening match of this series.
    South Africa are a different side to Sri Lanka, having arrived with 16 wins under their belt. This was apparent in the first half hour of play when the Indian innings was left reeling by the aggression and intensity of the Proteas, though it must be said that the Indian top order was a little short on application.
    However, the team management will not be entirely displeased because the team fought back, despite that miserable start. This shows the commitment of the players even in the face of heavy odds, which is something that the team has lacked in the recent past.
    That is also why the South Africans will not believe that they have India’s measure in the series just yet. In fact, I believe this jolt could rouse Team India to come back with renewed vigour.
    Yuvraj Singh is among the most gifted players in the country, but he has not been getting enough runs to convince his critics. At Hyderabad, he backed his talent with application to strike a magnificent century.
    India’s recovery was laudable, but some aspects niggled. Gautam Gambhir, if playing, should be at the top of the order, not as supersub at 5, 6 or 7. In that case, it would be better to play Tendulkar or Sehwag at No. 3. There also needs to be a plan in place to counter Graeme Smith. He is a key man for the Proteas in the absence of Herschelle Gibbs
    at the top of the order.
    The South Africans have most of the areas well covered. They bat deep, with Jacques Kallis as the lynchpin, have a very good attack spearheaded by Shaun Pollock, and their fielding is brilliant. India's counter will have to be well-thought out. Where extraneous conditions are concerned, slow turners could help India, but even then it will take a great effort from Dravid and Co.
    One thing which stood out from the Hyderabad match was the manner in which Sachin Tendulkar handled his dismissal. Just a shrug of the head, but no protest. Someone like me would have found it very hard to control my emotions at such a moment. But Tendulkar showed why he is a great role model even when he has made very few runs.
    The action shifts to day night games and my fingers are crossed as far as the dew factor is concerned, for it could spoil what promises to be a very exciting series.

    By Blogger Dark Nights, at 21:27  

  • who writes for ravi? the english is good

    By Blogger losing now, at 21:30  

  • Dark Nights:
    This RJSastri guy is too much. Look there is nothing wrong in admiring a player. SRT this SRT that. I mean he is such a homer even the real SRT fans want to vomit. Who cares??? Decision is made you need to walk. Big deal. Sometimes mistakes happen. SRT got his share of favorable calls. I mean he and Gavaskar are too much when adoring SRT especially because of Mumbai connections. It is all too obvious. It is only apt he writes for Times of India.

    By Blogger ramshorns, at 21:42  

  • 9 down. hogde dodged. he he he..

    By Blogger losing now, at 21:49  

  • 9/377. fiday night cricket with wine, cheese and crackers. hmmm

    By Blogger losing now, at 21:51  

  • losing now:
    sound's like a party to me. any women too or just plain old cheese for the cheeks.

    By Blogger ramshorns, at 21:56  

  • party on man.. wifey here with me..daughter being put to bed. good cheese though - sharp cheddar

    By Blogger losing now, at 21:58  

  • now that makes me blush. nevertheless enjoy....

    By Blogger ramshorns, at 21:59  

  • Ramshorns. :) Ravi is very shrewd you know. Both are World Tel associates and RJ likes to project himself as a representative of Sachin. There has been multiple occasions when he has subtly played this card when on air. But you are correct...how come does Sachin come into the picture out of the blue...I mean lots of people accept decisions good or bad in their stride...people like Gilchrist walk, so it was not exactly anything stand out. But still he inserted that line about Sachin, once again, in a subtle fashion.

    He also says that he would have found it very hard to control his emotions. Well all i can say is that he played in an era when showing 'protest' against umpiring decisions was not as much of a dissent as now. A few hefty match fines...and he would have been fine.

    ------

    Meanwhile Dravid leads India at his home ground today.

    Chappell reminisces about his own experience.

    http://www.deccanherald.com/deccanherald/nov192005/sports2022820051118.asp

    By Blogger Dark Nights, at 22:00  

  • Also some news about Ganguly..again from the TOI print edition:

    Kolkata: The game is bigger than the individual. So feels Sourav Ganguly. The endless rounds of protests outside Eden Gardens are ‘immature’ to say the least. And, it’s time cricket fans in the city understood that.
    Eden hosts the fourth one-dayer against South Africa on November 25. While the stadium dresses up for the big match inside, the street outside resembles a protest zone with Sourav fans burning effigies of BCCI officials and raising ‘No Sourav, no cricket’ slogans. But the man in the centre of the controversy is sure that despite all the fuss over his exclusion from the team, there’ll be a hundred thousand spectators cheering for Team India on D-Day.
    “Cricket means a lot more than any individual. India are playing well, and even if I don’t play, there will be one hundred thousand people at Eden Gardens,” Ganguly said after a gruelling two-hour practice session at his own academy ground on Friday afternoon.
    But that doesn’t mean the stylish left-hander has given up all hope of playing the match himself.
    “I have scored three centuries in the last five innings I’ve played. That proves I’m in good form...,” he said, making it clear that he is ready to play ball the moment the selectors give the nod.
    All the non-cricketing issues that had put a question mark over the deposed captain’s future doesn’t bother him at all.
    “The Chappell issue is a thing of the past. There are people who have come back to the team and fitted in well. There won’t be any exception in my case either.” Ganguly’s remark was as crisp as his offdrives in his heydays.

    By Blogger Dark Nights, at 22:02  

  • ramshorns.. enjayaaing saar. no worries. cant wait for the indians to kick some SA ass!

    By Blogger losing now, at 22:02  

  • dark nights : the final word is in.. SG sucks! big time.

    By Blogger losing now, at 22:07  

  • 3 centuries in last 5 innings.. an outright lie or media goofup..

    By Blogger Thanks Chappel, at 22:08  

  • Mcgrath playing a SRT like shot! what has the world come down too.. too much wine i say?

    By Blogger losing now, at 22:08  

  • tc: SG highlighting his positives (and diminishing his negatives : 2 ducks in a row). classic indian politics at play to get back. this guy should retire and join Congress or BJP. he is auditioning for the role of a chameleon politician rather than a professional cricketer. sad that politicking matters more than performance or potential.

    By Blogger losing now, at 22:11  

  • SHOT!!! by mcgill. 403/9

    By Blogger losing now, at 22:12  

  • guess Ganguly considers 1, 0, 0 as a 100.:)

    By Blogger Dark Nights, at 22:16  

  • dark : that is the only creative way to get to 100. bugger

    By Blogger losing now, at 22:18  

  • mcgill 20, m grzh 13.. who would have thunk? ..alright ... all out 405. Mcgrath run out!

    By Blogger losing now, at 22:20  

  • Also notice:
    "That proves I’m in good form" is kind of a statement by which he is kind of reassuring himself than others.

    By Blogger Dark Nights, at 22:24  

  • ss y'all 1/2 hr before the big game. ciao!

    By Blogger losing now, at 22:24  

  • what time does the match start EST?

    By Blogger Dark Nights, at 22:27  

  • 257 lead is good enough. Do not have to bat again

    By Blogger devatha, at 22:28  

  • 3:30 EST

    By Blogger devatha, at 22:28  

  • losing now:
    look like the wine has now well and truly sunk into you. get some sleep.

    By Blogger ramshorns, at 22:29  

  • dark nights; any plans to stay awake?

    By Blogger devatha, at 22:29  

  • Last 3 ODis at Bangalore have been won by the team batting first.

    1 Pak 291/8 50 50 - W d/n Pepsi Cup F Ind v Pak 1998/99 [1428]
    2 Ind 168 42.1 50 292 L d/n
    1 Ind 315 49.5 50 - W d/n 1st ODI Ind v Aus 2000/01 [1696]
    2 Aus 255 43.3 50 316 L d/n
    1 Aus 347/2 50 50 - W d/n TVS (Ind) 8 Ind v Aus 2003/04 [2061]
    2 Ind 286/8 50 50 348 L d/n

    By Blogger Dark Nights, at 22:33  

  • devatha,
    it is 4.00 EST right?

    By Blogger Glorious Uncertainty(GU), at 22:34  

  • dark nights:
    it starts at 4.00 AM est when it is truly dark.

    coming back to RJSastri you are spot on. we lost the game SRT did not contibute and this guy somehow brings up SRT into the picture and make it look like that was the most important thing in the match. i will tell you the real SRT fans should despice this guy.

    b.t.w good compilations allround.

    By Blogger ramshorns, at 22:36  

  • Thanks devatha. 3:30...man...gotta get some sleep.

    Goodnight all.

    Waste of time watching Aus and WI.
    Gayle just bowled by a superb yorker from Mcgrath.

    WI trail by 253 and have 9 wickets in hand. Just a matter of time ....

    By Blogger Dark Nights, at 22:36  

  • yes, 4AM EST

    By Blogger devatha, at 22:37  

  • Gayle gone!!!

    By Blogger losing now, at 22:37  

  • Dark Nights
    Only the last match of the list that you mentioned was in november.. all other matches were in march etc.. so I guess no due then..
    and Indians made 9 runs in last 14 balls once the match was done.. so I would assume we almost made 300 runs.. hence under lights 300 can be easily made when dew factor is there..
    so if you bat first. 325+ is a must..

    By Blogger Thanks Chappel, at 22:38  

  • perfect yorker.. middle and off. Gayle bamboozled

    By Blogger losing now, at 22:38  

  • thanks ramshorns. see you at the beginning of the BIG GAME! Jitega bhai jitega .. Hindooostan jitega

    By Blogger losing now, at 22:41  

  • @ramshorns....ty
    Before leaving , for you :
    http://www.thestatesman.net/page.news.php?clid=5&theme=&usrsess=1&id=96601

    Kinda sad as I am a Man U fan and like Fergusson a lot.

    Goodnight.

    By Blogger Dark Nights, at 22:41  

  • Folks,
    Please provide ur updates abt what should be 11 today and supersub?
    IMHO, SEHWAG should be DROPPED for 2 games atleast to bringback hunger....what say u? Get GG for Sewhag and Raina for KAIF
    Please post views.

    By Blogger Glorious Uncertainty(GU), at 22:42  

  • agree GU. but they will not drop VS.

    By Blogger losing now, at 22:43  

  • gu : time to give VS a GPL! (g..nd pe laat!).

    By Blogger losing now, at 22:44  

  • if GC is truly "tough" guy, u definitely need to drop VSehwag today...but Dravid keeps backing VS to the hilt!!!! Time to what I am saying...to repeat
    IMHO, SEHWAG should be DROPPED for 2 games atleast to bringback hunger....what say u? Get GG for Sewhag and Raina for KAIF

    By Blogger Glorious Uncertainty(GU), at 22:46  

  • dar saves sarwan. that was out

    By Blogger losing now, at 22:51  

  • gu:
    i have no problems with the changes you suggested. but there should be no limit on the number of games Virender the Bum Sehwag get's axed. realistiaclly what will happen is they will play him tonight and probably the next game too. if he does not fire then probably they will fire him. ideally i like him to be dropped but that won't happen.

    By Blogger ramshorns, at 22:51  

  • last ball at 154.1 kph. woo hoo

    By Blogger losing now, at 22:54  

  • Gayle said before the match that they should attack McGrath. This is the result if you attack McGrath. I always wonder how this McGrath keeps bowling tight line & length, when all the bowlers around the world struggle to do it.

    By Blogger devatha, at 22:58  

  • smith gone
    27/2 WI

    By Blogger ramshorns, at 23:13  

  • http://sport.guardian.co.uk/englandinpakistan/story/0,16791,1646281,00.html

    http://sport.independent.co.uk/cricket/article327997.ece

    http://sport.independent.co.uk/cricket/article327999.ece

    http://sport.guardian.co.uk/thespin/idx/0,12496,1643804,00.html

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/cricket/tm_objectid=16388090&method=full&siteid=94762&headline=india-tour-venue-row--name_page.html

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/cricket/tm_objectid=16388089&method=full&siteid=94762&headline=england-expects--kev--name_page.html

    By Blogger SHRI, at 23:48  

  • http://sport.iafrica.com/columns/dan_world/511583.htm

    By Blogger SHRI, at 00:05  

  • http://sport.iafrica.com/columns/dan_world/516425.htm

    By Blogger SHRI, at 00:06  

  • http://ww1.mid-day.com/sports/international/2005/november/123731.htm

    http://ww1.mid-day.com/sports/international/2005/november/123732.htm

    By Blogger SHRI, at 00:47  

  • anyone alive ??1:23 EST

    By Blogger Pankaj Tripathi, at 01:23  

  • anyone knows how to search today's match on SGStream??? I can not serach it thru "banglore"

    By Blogger Ruchir Joshi, at 01:32  

  • ruchir it is bangalore

    By Blogger Pankaj Tripathi, at 01:34  

  • i purchsed about an hour back .. still available.. dont know when they will run of slots..

    By Blogger Pankaj Tripathi, at 01:34  

  • going to sleep now. have an alarm for 4.00

    By Blogger sauravganguly, at 01:35  

  • The rain has spoiled the cricketnight plan ..

    By Blogger Pankaj Tripathi, at 01:37  

  • pankaj:

    thanks. i noticed my typo. i purchased it too...

    By Blogger Ruchir Joshi, at 01:47  

  • now go to sleep :)

    By Blogger Pankaj Tripathi, at 01:49  

  • that is wha ti have done atleast couple of times in past :)..
    With SS even if you sllep you sont feel that bad, SGS is bit more money so you want to stay awake till match starts :)

    By Blogger Pankaj Tripathi, at 01:50  

  • where in globe you located ruchir ?

    By Blogger Pankaj Tripathi, at 01:51  

  • pankaj:

    Maryland, USA

    By Blogger Ruchir Joshi, at 02:01  

  • Hello! anyone here?

    By Blogger subbu, at 02:21  

  • It was just a slip of tongue from GC.

    India will win the series 4-1.

    Today is going to be Dravid's day at Bangalore.
    When the occasion arrives, Dravid is the man for the big day.


    The team for today's match should be:
    1. Gambhir
    2. Tendulkar
    3. Dhoni (w)
    4. Sehwag
    5. Dravid
    6. Yuvraj
    7. Pathan
    8. Agarkar
    9. Harbajan
    10. Karthik
    11. RP Singh

    12. (Supersub): Raina

    By Blogger Kiran R, at 02:44  

  • Prem,

    As per the initial post, I hardly find GC's quote surprising. If you look at the man's thinking as evident from interviews, you get a feel of what he is trying to achieve.

    Put processes in place.
    Build your edges (fielding for instance is one edge)
    Work on cricketing skills
    Take the focus away from the result and into following the processes, no matter what the situation.
    We will win some games, lose some games. That is what sport is about.
    Make mistakes by all means, but learn from them and improve every time.

    Of course the bigger the edges, the better their application, the better the results over a period of time, over several games. But I feel he won't be affected too positively or too negatively by whatever result the team ends up with performance (6-1 win for inst.)

    Personally I believe this is a good approach, although it is diametrically opp. the views of the public. One game in WC lost, some were throwing stones at players houses and when we reached semis, they were sending garlands. Its all fine for spectators, but if player think similarly, they just get themselves under pressure.

    Again, I think this is the right solution in terms of psychology. Hopefully treating every match as a new game and focussing on the processes will take the pressure away from the players and allow them to perform better. A case in point is our record in finals. There is no denying that pressure of expectations and previous record in finals make us start with a losing attitude. Hopefully lifting the focus off results and into processes will recitfy this over time.

    In short, cutting through the words, "SA are a good team, but can be beaten. We will focus on our strategies and stick to our processes, with the aim of winning every match. However,SA will do the same, and we can't predict how each match will turn out, so we expect to win some matches (we don't know how many with several unknowns like the toss, its that simple)".

    My take anyway.

    By Blogger CricLover, at 03:14  

  • kiran r,
    you look like a geek.. are u contributing to the it department of the our team.

    By Blogger Thanks Chappel, at 03:16  

  • Good Afternoon everyone...Should be a cracking contest today

    By Blogger galli_cricket, at 03:31  

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