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Saturday, November 19, 2005

India-RSA Game 2 Thread 4

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  • Welcome :)

    By Blogger venkat, at 10:25  

  • Dropped

    By Blogger sj, at 10:25  

  • who is dropped, i didnt hear anything about it in the cricinfo commentry

    By Blogger rahul_fan, at 10:25  

  • 119/3 29over

    VS 36(39)
    RD 4

    By Blogger Rajg, at 10:26  

  • it wasn't even a half chance.

    By Blogger inside_story, at 10:26  

  • 28.1 Botha to Sehwag, one run, driven straight back and Botha fails to
    hold on to a fairly easy chance, what a miss

    By Blogger venkat, at 10:26  

  • venkat, its not fairly eash chance - the reaction time is very less... its one of the instance where the ball stuck to your hand, rather than you catching the ball

    By Blogger Partha (பார்த்தா), at 10:28  

  • SA should've got Pollock back when RD came in. It'll be too late soon

    By Blogger inside_story, at 10:28  

  • prem made some good points about the pathetic nature of hariharans umpiring.

    By Blogger rahul_fan, at 10:29  

  • sure, i'm not watching videdo -- guess i didnt understand your comment well

    By Blogger venkat, at 10:29  

  • earlier Ravi was saying that the dew would make the pitch low and slower.. and now he says that the dew has made the pitch slightly quicker ?? what nonsense?

    By Blogger Tiger, at 10:29  

  • 123-3 30overs

    By Blogger Rajg, at 10:29  

  • which ravi are you talkin about tiger?

    ravi1001 or someone.......i think he is always high......mostly doesnt know what he is talkin about.

    By Blogger rahul_fan, at 10:31  

  • 128/3 sehwag 43

    By Blogger Reverse Sweep, at 10:31  

  • that srilankan commentator is driving trevor crazy

    4 by sehwag

    By Blogger sj, at 10:31  

  • VS - 4 thru covers...great shot

    By Blogger Rajg, at 10:31  

  • in truth, there is no dew in there. some time back the cameraman just rubbed his hand near the boundry line to prove that :-)

    By Blogger Partha (பார்த்தா), at 10:31  

  • sehwag better 2 down than at the top?

    By Blogger Raju, at 10:31  

  • Am not seeing the South African shoulders drop yet. This team sure is a fighting unit

    By Blogger inside_story, at 10:31  

  • 4 by Sehwag, one bounce

    By Blogger sj, at 10:31  


    By Blogger Rajg, at 10:31  

  • sj.......which commentry ? and on where

    By Blogger rahul_fan, at 10:32  

  • two fours against Botha

    By Blogger Rajg, at 10:32  

  • I think SRT is better at #4 with VS at the top with GG

    By Blogger inside_story, at 10:32  

  • Trevor might soon leave the commentary if he continues his "can you guess " - my ridiculous - " questions"?

    By Blogger sj, at 10:32  

  • Looks like Sehwag might have sealed the number 4 slot for himself (or atleast middle order).

    By Blogger worma, at 10:32  

  • 36 from 19 overs

    By Blogger Partha (பார்த்தா), at 10:33  

  • Ravi Shastri was the one talking nonsene about the dew..

    By Blogger Tiger, at 10:33  

  • 43*/44 aftger coming at 17th over... what does it say?

    By Blogger Raju, at 10:33  

  • 134/3 31 overs

    VS - 48

    By Blogger Rajg, at 10:33  

  • I think in al these matches we tried everything except SRT in the middle order.

    I 'd assume he is either very reluctant or the team management doesnt need him down there.

    By Blogger rahul_fan, at 10:33  

  • worma

    where u been?

    By Blogger suraj, at 10:34  

  • worma, my thought egjactly.. ;)

    By Blogger Raju, at 10:34  

  • this trevor person is she male or female?

    By Blogger Ruchi Shah, at 10:34  

  • sometimes veeru play dumb cricket like on last ball.

    By Blogger Vick, at 10:34  

  • rahul_fan: the commentary on cricbuzz. The SL commentator is really driving Trevor crazy there

    By Blogger sj, at 10:35  

  • well done Veeru!!!!!!!!

    By Blogger rahul_fan, at 10:35  

  • 50 for VS

    By Blogger Rajg, at 10:35  

  • 4 more to VS

    By Blogger Rajg, at 10:36  

  • this brian thomas the SL guy on audio makes me constipated he is really shitting words

    By Blogger Reverse Sweep, at 10:36  

  • he must be feeling very very relieved.

    Poor GUy was under a lot of presure.

    By Blogger rahul_fan, at 10:36  

  • Good inn by VS. Sending him down, was a wake-up call to him.

    By Blogger Rajg, at 10:37  

  • Reverse_Sweep: I couldn't agree more. He is just picking on Trevor for anything and its not funny at all.

    By Blogger sj, at 10:37  

  • who will be the mom?

    By Blogger inside_story, at 10:37  

  • haha the guy goes "i dont see much difference between the sl and the sa outfit"

    By Blogger Ruchi Shah, at 10:38  

  • ruchi treveor chesterfield, he presently writes for Indian express

    By Blogger Reverse Sweep, at 10:38  

  • About time for Viru-boy. Good job, now keep going in future matches.

    By Blogger Jeetu, at 10:38  

  • VS or IP?

    By Blogger inside_story, at 10:38  

  • suraj: off and on throughout the day....a bit busy...couldnt sit down and chat...but here now

    raju: yeah atleast for a while they would let GG run at top with SRT...

    By Blogger worma, at 10:38  

  • 141-3 32 overs; drinks on the field

    By Blogger Rajg, at 10:38  

  • whats the score guys?

    By Blogger Rahul Kulkarni, at 10:38  

  • Has this SL guy never heard the word "spare bowler" ??? Is Trevor an old guy??

    By Blogger sj, at 10:38  

  • VS 54 off 59 balls

    By Blogger Rajg, at 10:40  

  • oops sorry..54 in 49 balls

    By Blogger Rajg, at 10:40  

  • Is there really dew on the ground? A while ago the cameraman showed there was none.. And Prem seems to believe there is dew.. The bowlers are wiping the ball... may be a ploy to slow things down? One commentator cant make up his mind if the dew slows the pitch down or quickens it up... This is really funny!

    By Blogger Tiger, at 10:41  

  • worma

    definitely interesting options thru the match

    IP allrounder
    VS middle order
    GG definitely an opener
    SRT possible move

    By Blogger suraj, at 10:41  

  • 144-3 in 32 overs

    By Blogger Rajg, at 10:41  

  • Is that true? I'm not so sure. Everybody was talking of JPY as the SS all the time...
    It depends on individual teams how they interpret the SS rule.
    Technically, you want to use the SS in a worst case scenario, which could be that you have a batting collapse or one of your bowlers goes for a lot.

    In any case, my feeling is that IP will give us a whole lot more options than GG.Imagine today, if SA had racked up 300+. Would we not have wanted a bowler to come in and stem the flow of runs by replacing him with the bowler who was getting tonked (e.g. like ZK sometimes does?) while also strengthening the batting?

    Prem, what do you think?

    By Blogger Harry, at 10:41  

  • good thing was that unlike in the SL series they didnt move Viru down to number 3...which often hardly makes a difference in terms of situation. Wonder what with SRT now...

    Prem...one question, and I'm not watching today, the revelation we had about SRT's batting 'approach' in the first two games against SL....has that approach once again reverted...was that an aberration?....or is it just a matter of simple failiure in a few innings..not much to read.

    By Blogger worma, at 10:43  

  • Smith seems to be hiding Pollock after the first spell

    By Blogger inside_story, at 10:43  

  • No 1,2,3 - SRT, VS, GG, IP, MSD
    No 4,5,6 - RD, VS, SRT, YS, MSD, MK

    SR in the team and waiting..
    VR, VVS out of the team and still waiting

    No place for SG

    By Blogger Schumi, at 10:44  

  • suraj: yeah but 'what' with SRT? move down? both him and VS down?...not the best possible strategy

    By Blogger worma, at 10:44  

  • Prem, on an unrelated matter - you once mentioned in passing that the great Sir Viv Richards had said something about Mohammed Azharuddin, and you said you'd tell us what he said at a later date... could you please tell us what he said?

    By Blogger ajoy, at 10:44  

  • Sorry folks, I moved over fm the previous thread, and didn't want to retype. But folks, why wouldn't IP be a good SS?
    Is there anything wrong with the logic?

    By Blogger Harry, at 10:44  

  • worma: will post something I have been meaning to, or SRT, by Monday. Have a clipping I want to refer to but it's in office and I wont go there ahead of Monday. Makes more sense then. :-(

    Tiger: Forget the commentators; check the fielders. They are getting it in their hands and then not able to clutch. Should tell you there's dew, if the fishing net they used during drinks to roll the dew off the ground didn't.

    By Blogger Prem Panicker, at 10:45  

  • 150-3 33overs

    By Blogger Rajg, at 10:45  

  • harry....you ideally want to chose a supersub who would come in only in extra-ordinary situations....and also someone who may/may-not be involved in both innings of the match....IP doesn't fit the bill, right?

    By Blogger worma, at 10:46  

  • yes trevor chesterfield is quite senior

    By Blogger Reverse Sweep, at 10:46  

  • Moving VS down woke him up!!!
    ALSO, VS is just too good a player of spin bowling, I like GG at the top and VS down.
    Same wake up to SRT needed

    By Blogger Glorious Uncertainty(GU), at 10:47  

  • worma,

    i don't think SRT is a long term opener prospect anymore

    and since this is one of the hardest position to fill up I think its time to explore other options

    By Blogger suraj, at 10:47  

  • prem...ok thx...will wait for it.

    By Blogger worma, at 10:47  

  • ajoy: Sir Viv was in Mumbai, doing a coaching camp for young kids. Krishna Prasad and I had gone over to watch. One kid asked him who his favorite was. Viv said, Azhar. We thought he was playing to a gallery, so asked him after the stint. He said no, he was serious. In his words, as close as I can remember them, any other batsman I can play the same shots he does, even Sachin. But with Azhar, he just comes in and whisk whisk (sort of making those noises, like a subdued whistle) and next thing you know, he is 25, 50, and you dont know where to bowl or what shot to set. I've tried imitating that shot, but it doesn't work, that man has magic wrists. That's the gist of what Richards said.

    By Blogger Prem Panicker, at 10:48  

  • dravid caught and bowled by ontong

    By Blogger Reverse Sweep, at 10:48  

  • RD out

    By Blogger Rajg, at 10:48  

  • tame dismissal

    By Blogger suraj, at 10:49  

  • yeah but Suraj who in his place? Given that VS may bat down for a while?

    By Blogger worma, at 10:49  

  • thanks prem, doh...rd is out

    By Blogger ajoy, at 10:49  

  • YS in

    By Blogger Rajg, at 10:50  

  • Yup, somebody else said, that bowling to Azhar was like bowling to a revolving door, you never knew where the ball was going to go..wristy, flick, flick, flick...

    VVS is a lot like him...aah, bring him back guys....

    By Blogger Harry, at 10:50  

  • tiger: saw that? *L* that bit of fielding shows you the dew factor... the toss slipped from kemp's fingers.

    By Blogger Prem Panicker, at 10:51  

  • prem...no dobt about Viv's (no 'sir' :-) judgment....Azhar in his prime was a nightmare for bowlers

    By Blogger worma, at 10:51  

  • RD has this habit of getting out to off spinners more so with leading edge. Playing a little too early...

    By Blogger Schumi, at 10:51  

  • 158-4

    By Blogger Rajg, at 10:52  

  • that's the challenge worma

    but sooner or later we will have to find someone

    By Blogger suraj, at 10:52  

  • YS Dropped!!!!

    By Blogger sj, at 10:52  

  • although Lax does come very very close to Azhar....when in peak...something which one of the Aus (dont remember who) commented...that with his wrist he has the scope of playing the same delivery from anywhere between cover to midwicket

    By Blogger worma, at 10:53  

  • worma: the 'sir' is politeness. *L* He has the title, what the hell, till someone gets sensible and abolishes it along with the monarchy, have to use it

    the one shot i remember is in SA, in coiurse of that partnership. the first of the four sequence vs lance kluesener. Harsha was commenting, kluesenner bowled what looked like a yorker, harsha went, I swear this, BOWLED -- and then realized the ball had whizzed to the midwicket boundary

    By Blogger Prem Panicker, at 10:53  

  • 4 for VS...72

    By Blogger Rajg, at 10:54  

  • ahzar's was not good against short pitched bowling, still better than Ganguli. At least he worked hard..sublime fielder. Till he sold his country

    By Blogger Reverse Sweep, at 10:54  

  • 4 more for VS socre 162-4

    By Blogger Rajg, at 10:54  


    By Blogger Harry, at 10:54  

  • 'Thappad' shot

    By Blogger losing now, at 10:55  

  • 167-4

    By Blogger Rajg, at 10:55  

  • India wins!!! Yuvi hits the winning stroke

    By Blogger sj, at 10:55  

  • Dont remember the name but one of the county captains commented that bowling to Azhar is like bowling to a revolving door

    By Blogger Schumi, at 10:55  

  • prem, all our players are padmashrees and padmabhushans but I dont see you using their titles

    By Blogger Reverse Sweep, at 10:55  

  • good show by India.

    SRT/VS should be sent in the middle order

    By Blogger Rajg, at 10:55  

  • worma: you think the team kind of reacts each time something SG comes up? I mean, the other day LP Sahi in that statement about a top order collapse inviting SG back, went on to make, in the very next para, the point that VS hasn't had a decent hit in a while -- so VS promptly goes uh oh, and shuts that door? *L*

    By Blogger Prem Panicker, at 10:55  

  • YS - 4

    INDIA WON 171/4

    By Blogger Rajg, at 10:56  

  • reverse: Because the convention is, for someone who is knighted, you use the Sir followed by the first name. There is no similar convention for the PBs and PSs -- if there were, I would use that

    By Blogger Prem Panicker, at 10:56  

  • Harsha though it was bowled because right after playing that nothing short of amazing shot, Azhar started walking behind the wickets (take a stroll till they fetch the ball) and that fooled harsha Bhogle.

    By Blogger Rahul Kulkarni, at 10:56  

  • Righto, guys, end of the story. And I am off to sleep, catch you guys on Monday.

    By Blogger Prem Panicker, at 10:57  

  • MOM: IP or VS?? My vote is for IP

    By Blogger sj, at 10:57  

  • Good. The one performer (VS) who hadn't yet fired since the start of the SL series has now batted his way back into form. Also, it wasn't anything like a done deal when he walked in. With this, it is safe to say that everyone in this team has now clicked in the last 9 games.

    The signs look good.

    By Blogger Jeetu, at 10:57  

  • Prem,
    SG is the motivator..that to say, when he is out-of-team...*L*
    Most successful non-playing player...

    By Blogger Rajg, at 10:57  

  • yeah Prem....I had that thought today....that it looks like a motivational factor :-))...didn't mention it here since it would have carried things away ;-)

    By Blogger worma, at 10:57  

  • gone -- will make one small final post on the home page, then monday

    By Blogger Prem Panicker, at 10:57  

  • GG or Kaif should be super sub.

    By Blogger Rajg, at 10:58  

  • Prem: I bet you wouldn't get any reactions to that from any of the players :)
    For the sake of the team, and for the sheer joy of watching this team in motion, please please keep SG out, and better bring VVS back!

    By Blogger Harry, at 10:58  

  • MOM - VS (my vote). IP was lucky to get 3 wickets, his batting was good though, so it should be a close call for the MOM

    By Blogger inside_story, at 10:59  

  • the point is why should we follow the brit conventions

    By Blogger Reverse Sweep, at 10:59  

  • I am happy that VS 77 shut down every one especially SG supporters.

    The SR of VS is 124.19.

    I am telling from the beginning that VS did n't lose the class , but SG lost it

    By Blogger gangulysucks, at 10:59  

  • these conventions are not madatory for us indians to follow unless we still considers ourselves to be their subjects. these sirs and lords and obes and mbes make my blood boil

    By Blogger Reverse Sweep, at 11:00  

  • whats up with Sachin's form now... Slowly his runs are tricking to single digit? 22 balls to score 2 runs no I would call that a struggle.

    By Blogger Rahul Kulkarni, at 11:01  

  • "sir" is not a common thing.

    only richards,hadle,bradman got that privelage

    By Blogger gangulysucks, at 11:01  

  • Congrats to India.

    Hopefully, this keeps team unchanged.

    IP MOM..my guess.

    By Blogger Rajg, at 11:02  

  • i miss azhar... is there any best of Azhar DVD?

    By Blogger Chetan Reddy, at 11:02  

  • rahul....yeah LP needs to write another column...this time with SRT in focus ;-)

    By Blogger worma, at 11:02  

  • SRT form is just a matter of time. He will be back at his helm

    By Blogger gangulysucks, at 11:03  

  • how serious is the threat of the match in Kolkata being disrupted by SG fundamentalists??

    By Blogger Tiger, at 11:03  

  • worma,


    By Blogger gangulysucks, at 11:04  

  • tiger...did you read SG's statement in that regard...urging fans not to react to his exclusion?....I dont think there would be much more of it.

    By Blogger worma, at 11:05  

  • reverse: if you are going down that "angrez ka ghulam" route, dont, pal. I dont see myself that way -- I have no problem taking on the brits where deserved; but where something is common politeness, that too universally followed, I dont see my independence taking a big hit by following it.

    Cheerio all, and bye

    By Blogger Prem Panicker, at 11:05  

  • because richrds, hadlee and bradman got sirs, does that make them nay better players...they are great any way. my point is whay shoould we worry about brit titles and conventions..we have our own

    By Blogger Reverse Sweep, at 11:06  

  • >>gangulysucks said...

    "sir" is not a common thing.

    only richards,hadle,bradman got that privelage <<

    Colin Cowdre(sp??), Sir Gary Sobers, Sir Everton Weeks...there are many..I sort of refuse to use it..It's like calling Gavaskar as 'Padamshri Sunil' or Padambhushan Sunil etc etc etc

    By Blogger Oracle Guy, at 11:06  

  • worma,

    u didn't understand SG statement clealry.
    In India, If you ask your supporters "not to react" means, Act aggresively. Thats what West Bengalis are going to do in Kolkata match.

    It will be really funny if india wins chennai match.

    By Blogger gangulysucks, at 11:07  

  • whiner.. as if toss didn't play a part in the last game..

    By Blogger Thanks Chappel, at 11:07  

  • RD got a new cap.

    By Blogger Rajg, at 11:08  

  • hey oracleguy,

    "sir" list is not a big one as like padmashree,padmabushan etc

    By Blogger gangulysucks, at 11:08  

  • we can be polite without having to use sirs, i dont see myself going that way.

    By Blogger Reverse Sweep, at 11:08  

  • Can anyone watching the presentation ceremony post a transcript ?

    By Blogger Schumi, at 11:10  

  • gangulysucks: mate...you can selectively attach seriousness to different statements, depending upon where they come from, and what direction they're taking. I can't. After all, this whole thing started with a few political interests making 'statements'...didn't it?

    And btw, what the SG fans in Bengal(or any other part of the country) chose to do as a sign of their protest should not be mixed with the feelings of that man himself.

    By Blogger worma, at 11:11  

  • I think the team management is aware that IP needs a new car ;-)

    By Blogger worma, at 11:12  

  • who cares if the sir list is small or big..do you know the history of knighthood? it started with the pirates being knighted for what they would bring in as their loot for the kings/queens. now days they knight any tom dick and harry and the civil servants. I dont understand why it should be a big deal for us

    By Blogger Reverse Sweep, at 11:12  

  • who is MOM? what did Rahul say? Smith say?

    By Blogger @mit, at 11:14  

  • mom is pathan

    By Blogger Reverse Sweep, at 11:15  

  • pretty emphatic victory in the end by the Indians.. SA needs to figure out quickly how best to play the spinners or they are toast...

    By Blogger galli_cricket, at 11:22  

  • Worma .. can you start another thread where in discussions for matches other than the India SA ODI can be discussed? much appreciated..

    By Blogger galli_cricket, at 11:25  

  • galli_cricket: you mean Aus match? Just posted something on that.

    By Blogger worma, at 12:34  

  • Just got hold of some interesting stats. Sachin in his last 6 matches has averaged about 12. Dravid in his last 12 matches, barring the SL series where he made hay with below par bowling opposition, has averages below 20. Shehwag in his last 20 matches has averaged just about 27. Says something!

    By Blogger devips, at 13:04  

  • Ya Ya Devpis and if you take only the matches in which India socred less than 150 ---- our average is a stunning below 150 --- says a lot

    By Blogger @mit, at 13:10  

  • Never expected logical response from likes of you, so not really disappointed!

    By Blogger devips, at 13:12  

  • For Day-Night games, it is all Toss-based
    More or less, as simple as that...there are and will be few exceptions, but mostly, its WIN-TOSS, WIN-GAME.
    Esp. with super-sub rule, supersub gives you big Advtg with Toss, and usually for India, big Disadvtg if u lose the Toss.
    (since no allrounder for Ind supersub). SO TOSS TAKES ALL PRIORITY!!!!
    So unfortunate

    By Blogger Glorious Uncertainty(GU), at 14:06  

  • Devips,

    Your comment is the most asinine I have seen in a while! It is easy to manipulate statistics by considering only certain sub-sets while ignoring data that is not-so-favorable to a pre-determined conclusion.

    By Blogger Spartacus, at 16:16  

  • I'm very surprised that we haven't heard any news regarding match referee and Gambhir/Nel verbal confrontation.

    By Blogger Darpan, at 20:34  

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