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Sunday, November 06, 2005

Line and length

Interesting to see young, untried seam bowlers bowl with such discipline. Sangakarra was probably looking to anchor the chase -- but his figures against the Indian bowlers is indicative of the real pressure the fielding side has maintained:
20 dot balls and just five singles, one three against Agarkar; 14 dot balls against RP Singh (though KS did take RPS for 20 off 21 deliveries, thanks largely to 3 threes and three fours) and, against Sreeshant, 18 dot balls, and just seven runs off 21 balls faced. Against a batsman of KS's class and form, that really is a class performance.
The score looks a tad bigger than it really is now -- be interesting to see how the Lankans go when the pace of the game slows down, with spin and the likes of JP Yadav coming on -- to my mind, how JPY goes could have a major impact, either way, on the result. At this point, though, purely from a fan's perspective, it's hugely heartening to see the team out there without a single one of the seniors, missing two frontline bowlers -- and still making a good fist of the defense against a team ranked number two in the world. Talk of an advertisement for young blood, this is it.


  • Shows the kind of confidence Chappell/Dravid have in them...

    By Blogger Harsh, at 09:58  

  • SreeSanth and RPS look very good prospects for India. AA is doing well...lot of good signs..
    Only bad seed in current team...YS..should be dropped.

    By Blogger Rajg, at 10:00  

  • some easy runs are being given...probably the dew and inexperience....these 2 might take the match away from india

    By Blogger zombie, at 10:01  

  • RPS is good, so does sree santh, I think rotation of these bowlers will help them from not getting injured.

    By Blogger karthik, at 10:01  

  • RD seems to be stepped out after 9 overs. Is VS making the on-field decisions?

    By Blogger mip_co, at 10:06  

  • This guy Santh only can bowl 3 overs at a stretch. I am observing him from the start of the series. He is bowling first 3 of his spell excellently, only to give away 15 to 20 runs in the next 2 overs. He should be used only in 3 over spells. I think he lacks the fitness needed for a fast bowler who can bowl longer spells. No doubt, he will improve, but for now, he should be used only in 3 over spells. Dravid understood that in the last ODI and used him somewhat cleverly. But Sehwag couldn't understand. So, valuable 20 runs gone away.

    By Blogger devatha, at 10:07  

  • goes the captain!

    By Blogger मनीष अग्रवाल, at 10:29  

  • gone is mahela

    By Blogger मनीष अग्रवाल, at 10:38  

  • It's a lose-lose situation for SL. If they win it would appear that they beat a second string team. If they lose, it would appear that they can't even beat a second string team. :-)

    Seems like a bit of a mind game being played by Indian think tank.

    By Blogger Harsh, at 11:20  

  • Kaif and VRV singh selected for next two matches...Rao and JPY out...Yuvraj survives

    By Blogger Shivam, at 14:19  

  • is the team announced? where?

    By Blogger @mit, at 14:33  

  • "Talk of an advertisement for young blood, this is it."

    Mazza Ay Gaya and you were right on, dude!

    Agarkar 9.4 0 59 2 (2nb, 2w)
    Singh 9 1 54 1 (2w)
    Santh 10 0 57 0 (5w)
    Yadav 7 0 44 0
    Kartik 10 0 52 1 (1nb, 1w)
    Sehwag 2 0 17 0 (1w)

    By Blogger dapolice, at 14:37  

  • New Team


    By Blogger @mit, at 14:38  

  • Wonderful. So one of 'India's future batting talents' have been dumped along with another allrounder. Please keep bashing Gavaskar. May be he was behind Venu's exclusion. Some people even went to the extent of saying after the 4th match that Gavaskar is hiding now and Venu has shut him up etc. What now folks? But yes, who the hell cares as long as SG is out of the team? As long as he's out and Venu gets dropped and someone else comes in, everything is fair.

    By Blogger Jai, at 14:45  

  • jai
    they couldnot drop gambir after todays performance
    they cannot keep kaif out with his form he is in.
    yadav i feel bad for him but vrv is a fine prospect...it is hard decisions but need to be taken. vrv is a decent bat too who knows given chances he could be another pathan

    By Blogger tombaan, at 14:54  

  • http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/msid-1286344,curpg-2.cms

    funny doesnot maharaj also mean a cook too....good business for ganguly

    By Blogger tombaan, at 15:08  

  • Since they picked VRV and Kaif, I think the two will be picked in the playing eleven for the next game. Bhajji may come in for Kartik, SRT for Sehwag, Kaif for Rao, VRV for AA ( I think AA will be rested for the next game). IP in for JPY.

    By Blogger Tiger, at 15:28  

  • tombaan, but think from Venu's pov. Just two days back everyone was of the opinion that he deserves a chance as a youngstar and that he has done well to shut up Gavaskar. Today he's out of the team. What do you think it will do to his morale? I don't understand why is it necessary to play SRT when he's just coming out of an injury? He could have been easily rested since GG has done well today. These two guys have hardly played enough to get dumped like this. Why talk about building bench strength then?

    By Blogger Jai, at 15:45  

  • jai - i feel bad for Venu, not as bad for jpy but i think both these guys know that they are in the first tier as far as team selction goes. the selection process has been fair - while venu jpy did well they did not do exceptionally well (like gambhir today or AA in the previous game) to demand a spot. true yuvraj could have been sacrificed but i think his experience and fielding and occasional bowling helped him retain his spot. he will be under tremendous pressure to perform. another failure with the bat and he will be watching hte forst few games against SA on TV (maybe with Ganguly, Mongia, Nehra and Zaheer in toe).

    By Blogger MM, at 16:05  

  • Funny are the ways of Indian selectors. Mohinder was right in calling them a bunch of jokers. But looks like now they cannot justify their own previous justification to keep Saurav out. How did Kaif get into the team? Was his 50 better than Saurav's 100 or his injury has healed better than Saurav's. Nothing against Kaif, he is a good trier and better than some of the players in the team, but isn't Saurav better one day player than most batsmen in the team. It's nothing other than personal vendetta that's keeping him out of the team, and as I see it he does not have any chance of getting in the team until the current combination of Coach/Captain/Selectors changes.

    By Blogger Sanjay, at 16:20  

  • I think next Game we may see this


    SS - VGR

    I think India will go full strength again in the next game

    By Blogger @mit, at 16:49  

  • India's lineup for next game will be:

    Supersub: Sreesanth

    These 2 matches are Yuvi's last chance. Raina and Gambhir are breathing down his neck.
    Chappell has indeed created some intense competition for batting slots by blooding youngsters.
    The problem as always for India is the bowling. There is competition in the fast bowling department but the problem is that none of the pacers are worldclass.

    By Blogger AA, at 17:09  

  • i like sanths and the singhs of the world but that said fact remains a fit nehra and zaheer are way ahead of this guys...not pitching they should be selected but just they are better. it is good we have options but i feel bad for both yadav and rao but within the limited options given both of them have not done it well... if yuvraj doesnot cut it rainas and raos would be back...i am sure rao would be back but i dont feel he is agood fit he is more dravid and kaif mould and do we need a third in the same game...not sure test matches maybe we need rao over yuvraj but one dayers not so sure.....

    By Blogger tombaan, at 17:39  

  • sanjay - Kaif had a very good ODI tour of zimbabwe and b4 that also of Sri lanka. The only reason he was out of the first 5 matches was due to his injury. Once he was declared fit, he comes back into the side. He sure isnt the one who deserves to be kept out to accomodate Ganguly. If you want to look for a scapegoat to bring Ganguly back, then maybe Yuvi should be your whipping boy.

    By Blogger Tiger, at 17:40  

  • eaxctly tiger. kaif has been in good nick in ODI's.

    sanjay - in fact the whole ganguly-chappell saga started because of kaif in a way. kaif was in such good touch (and yuvraj) that there was no justifiable reason to exclude him from the team in Zim. chappell told ganguly that kaif and yuvraj should play and not him.
    there is no personal vendetta - ganguly's form has been miserable and there is no way he deserves a recall.
    kaig, rao, yuvraj, raina, jpy will fight for 2 places in the middle order. i also think that sehwag may come 3 down if gambhir can cement his place in the team. the real opportunity for someone is in the opening slot.

    if sehwag clicks at #4 or 5 or 6 and the srt/gambhir combo does not click maybe someone like robin utthappa will get a go against sa or maybe ganguly will be recalled to open, that is the only realistic scenario that i see for ganguly to even dream of coming back against sa.

    By Blogger MM, at 18:05  

  • tiger,
    Ganguly was asked to show his form and fitness before the series started. He did that by scoring a century against good bowling line-up of north-zone. The reason that was offered to keep him out was that a winning combination (leading 2-0) is not to be meddled with. But now we have two changes being made to a team which already won the series 4-1. Why didn't the selectors come out the last time and say that Ganguly has to show consistent form for period over 3 months or so? What was this rubbish about the winning combination not to be disturbed....., prior to that he needs to show his fitness.....

    I agree with Sanjay, a bunch of jokers.

    By Blogger bouncer, at 18:09  

  • sanjay, tiger:

    get over it
    get a grip
    ganguly is not in the equation for WC 2007.
    he needs to come up with something exceptional to be counted. his duleep trophy century was a good sign but he is about as far from exceptional as it gets

    By Blogger MM, at 18:12  

  • mm,

    Rao has now played more than 10 int. ODI matches, and his batting average is below 20. Ganguly scored a century against a very good bowling attack of North zone. He scored a century against Zim in September. I agree his form has not been stellar over the last year, but hey, these stats should have got him in, especially when none of the players you mentioned did anything outstanding in last few matches.....JPY and VR are already out.

    By Blogger bouncer, at 18:15  

  • mm,

    So SG needs to be exceptional to be counted. Here you go. Different standard now for different people. Who among MK, YS, SR, VR, and JPY are exceptional?

    By Blogger bouncer, at 18:17  

  • Bouncer, exactly my points. Why talk about not breaking the winning combination and giving enough chances to youngsters which actually means 3 more matches without enough batting chances? The fans don't seem to have any issues when Kaif replaces Venu, but have issues if it's SG. Fine with me, but why not judge Venu independently and without these factors? Doesn't he deserve that as a youngstar?

    By Blogger Jai, at 18:38  

  • bouncer -

    venu,jpy, raina are not exceptional but they are raw, they need to be given the opportunity to shine. their batting currently is better than ganguly (forget about how good ganguly was), their fielding is better by miles, they all can bowl and i can say that their bowling is as good as ganguly currently and above al their attitude is right - they are hungry, want to win and are unified. they are not the ones causing factions in the dressing room. if we go by your approach thorpe will be in the english side, damien martyn and michael bevan and gillespie will be in the aussie side and oh maybe akram can make a comeback, after all his record is superior to all the other fast bowlers in the current paki line up and pipeline.

    sorry dude - this a new era, sg will need to do more than with bat, ball and in terms of fielding to be considered in the team.

    By Blogger MM, at 18:58  

  • i thought rao should have been tried once more..may be this is part of rotation and he will be back..but, i think he may turn out to be a better test player than odi as well..and if kaif and dravid are both playing..could be tough for rao..

    i think jp yadav is probably going to have a hard time coming back as well..but not sure how vrv replaces him..may be the guy can bat as well..anyone??

    not sure why we are thinking sg would have been selected this series.. in whose place??..he has to serve his time in jail:)..keep playing well..but, his selection now may not have too much to do with his form..or all the on field stuff for few more series may be...i think even if he scores a century in duleep trophy final and takes quite a few wickets..he will not get in the odi team in a hurry..but, i have a feeling he will be included for the test series against sl..odi: few more series..a lot of experiments before sg can get even get a look..assuming he will be 'back in form' :) :)..which is not a given in any case..

    By Blogger indianfansrcrazy, at 19:14  

  • You know, love or hate Ganguly, I think consensus would show he makes more of a case, if at all, for ODIs than tests at this point in his career.

    There are all indications of the reverse. His ODI career is over and he will likely be in the squad for tests. Hare Ram!

    By Blogger TFFY, at 19:24  

  • tombaan, I agree. I think in batting India has plent of options, the weakness is bowling. Not one pacer who consistently troubles good batsmen and forces them to concentrate on not losing their wicket (like Srinath). Zaheer and Nehra are the best potentially, but they just haven't shown the desire to be among the best in the world. the way they've been going, it seems like they're not going to get better, and may even get worse. Maybe the shock of being dropped, and the shock of being thrashed in the challengers, might wake them up.

    Here are the current contenders in pace bowling:

    Zaheer, Nehra, Balaji, Pathan, Agarkar, Sree Santh, RP Singh, VRV Singh, JP Yadav.

    I have a hard time ranking this list. Nobody has really separated themselves from the pack. Any exciting contenders outside this list?

    Spinners, I think Harbhajan is head and shoulders over everybody else as a oneday bowler, and there's only room for one spinner. I guess Kartik,Kumble, Chawla etc. can fight for the back-up spinner's slot, in case HS gets injured or loses form.

    India has plenty of batting. Here's my ranking:

    1. Dravid 2. Sehwag 3. SRT 4. Gambhir 5. Kaif 6. Dhoni 7. Yuvraj/VVS 9. Ganguly

    Unsure about Rao/Raina/Rayadu, etc. but I think they also should be in contention.

    Among all the batsmen, it's worth mentioning, from a team composition point of view, that Ganguly is the only seam bowler. Lastly, the real danger for indian batting is for an opposing fast bowler to scythe through India's batting. Accordingly, I think we should give special consideration to which of these batsmen can play against quality pace.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 19:26  

  • This experimentation is very sad.

    Look at SA - did they take their foot off the pedal and leave out their best after dominating NZ at home?

    It would have been even greater to show that we can humiliate the Lankans when the latter were desperate to win. Heads would have rolled if they lost 7-0. You don't *exactly* beat your opponent and figure out what to tinker with next. If a worthy opponent (i.e. not Bangladesh or Zimbabwe), you kill them all the way and spit on their grave for long term fear. Haven't we learnt from the Ghori -Prithviraj Chauhan days?

    If India played with the best team and managed to win 7-0, the friction and controverises that would have started within SL might have made Dalmiya and Bindra look mature by comparison. Moody's head would have been summoned on the chopping block. India missed out on spreading its special administrative culture with our neighbors across the Palk Strait. GC is no consummate professional. Ganguly was.

    (The last line is obviously a joke!).

    By Blogger TFFY, at 19:38  

  • mm,

    Even if you consider SG's batting average only since the point VR started playing ODI's for India (SL tour), his is better than VR's.

    Bud, you are of course entitled to your opinion, but not the facts.

    By Blogger bouncer, at 19:40  

  • And here's an interesting playing 12 for non-indian conditions:

    1. SRT
    2. Sehwag
    3. Yuvraj
    4. Kaif
    5. Dravid
    6. Dhoni
    7. Pathan
    8. Agarkar
    9. Harbhajan
    10. Zaheer
    11. Nehra

    supersub: VVS or Gambhir or Ganguly

    Balaji/Sree Santh/RP Singh/VRV Singh could displace Zaheer/Nehra/Agarkar depending on performace/fitness etc.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 19:42  

  • mm,
    Kindly leave those 'causing factions in the dressing room' allegations aside when you talk about SG. After all when we talk about GC, we don't necessarily meantion everytime how his accusations against SG that he faked injury was proven to be false and why he asked players about SG's injury instead of the physio etc. etc. Let's not argue on allegations which haven't been proven. It doesn't serve any purpose. It's just an opinion. However, when you talk about SG's form, you can justify your case with numbers and that can be discussed although we may not necessarily agree in the end. But if the discussion is based on those 'allgations', then there's not much room for further discussion at all because it's pointless.

    By Blogger Jai, at 20:23  

  • jai-- Cut the SG defense. Its absolutely lame. Ganguly sucks and the world knows it. Don't try to piss against the wind, it aint gonna help ya :p

    By Blogger Ridham, at 20:42  

  • ridham,

    man, get a grip on yourself. We are having a discussion here. Ganguly just scored a century in Duleep trophy against a decent attack. "He sucks and the whole world knows it" kind of argument belongs to kindergarten

    By Blogger bouncer, at 20:48  

  • tffy:

    if we dont experiment within reason with a new look side..how will have a balanced side..which is the final goal for these "experiments"?? what other opportunity to experiment when we already won the series..it is always a balancing act in these things..if india had a set team.. 7-0 would be the main target..but it becomes a lower priority when you need to build the team first

    By Blogger indianfansrcrazy, at 21:14  

  • I would say Jai has agood defence: if we are not changing the team to stop SG being in, then why the hell we keep changing the team?

    I think the answer is in the meaning of word team or combination. The team or combination , according to RD-GC clique ( add Bindra and Raj to it ) , is anything without SG at any cost.

    I guess there is nothing wrong in it because after all, in war the winner takes all. This has been a war all along and for now they are winning!

    By Blogger SS, at 21:33  

  • bouncer - there is no way you can compare stats between venu and SG. venu has hardly been around at all. the point is that SG has been baggage in the team for the past few years (tests, ODI's) and its time to open the doors for talented younger people. They are hungrier, run harder, work harder and vibrate positive energy.

    And jai - why should I or anyone leave out the fact that ganguly is a divisive force in the team. In addition to batting, bowling, fielding, work ethic, temperament and hunger, teamwork and the ablity to unify teams is a core asset in any team. ganguly is acting just like nayan mongia was when ganguly was captain. nayan mongia was givne the boot and what goes around comes around.

    By Blogger MM, at 21:44  

  • roublen: interesting ranking..i guess it is based on current form and series.. altho not sure why vs is higher than dhoni and gambhir then.. if vvs and sg were in full form..i think they would be ranked higher..probably within the top 4 with srt and dravid

    By Blogger indianfansrcrazy, at 21:46  

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    By Blogger indianfansrcrazy, at 22:00  

  • mm, so ganguly is accused of the same crime that he actually got rid of in indian cricket..divisiveness??

    who told you this?? gc??? lol buddy..this is all politics which none of us will ever get a full picture..but we will always have our own biases..so will never even agree to disagree..why not just focus on things that we know for sure..sg is out of form and made a mistake (stupid in my opinion in this case) by going against the coach in public..he is paying for it heavily..now not only he needs to get back in form..mountains will need to moved (which can happen as well) before he is allowed in..

    By Blogger indianfansrcrazy, at 22:02  

  • indianfanscrazy: thanks for your response.

    I believe you never have a "set" team. You only have the "best" team. You always choose the "best" team on a given day. It could vary the next day is someone sucks. With this philosophy, one discards someone not simply after one chance, but after you determine reasonable number of opportunities given the circumstances you are under.

    It was a worthwhile goal to shoot for 7-0. You can still experiment (but within strict limits) after the series victory. For e.g., you could have rotated the pace bowlers around. You don't drop SRT and Harbhajan now. That is simply brain dead and asking for a loss. You might as well replace Dhoni with a backup keeper given this poor logic. Sri Lanka have been let off easy.

    By Blogger TFFY, at 22:05  

  • i did not agree with the srt dropping as well..but dont agree that you never have a set team..before wc2007 we must..and experiments (if any) will need to happen now..esp. when you have youngsters that are unproven..when will they get a chance..i mean we are not talking about one or two new players here..they are more than the regulars in number..so, i dont see any other good options..this is how the team mgmt had to prioritize i guess..

    best team..is the winning team no doubt..but, once again then we have more youngsters (read: unproven) than we can handle if we need to win, rotate, create bench strentgh and have the final goal of having the 'best' team for wc2007..

    By Blogger indianfansrcrazy, at 22:19  

  • i agree with harbhajan not being dropped as well..but, mainly due to my 'bias' of not seeing mk in the final eleven for the long run..i dont think he can replace bhajji..and if there are two spinners needed..bring on kumble or someone younger that could be a match winning option..otherwise, srt/vs/yuvi etc. combo can work as well when needed

    By Blogger indianfansrcrazy, at 22:24  

  • mm, you said " why should I or anyone leave out the fact that ganguly is a divisive force in the team".

    Pal, what's the definition of 'FACT' in your opinion? Anything garbage on SG without any proof?

    By Blogger Jai, at 22:28  

  • lol mm..dont give that argument of divisiveness..if it was divisieveness then those players would not have spoken out for Ganguly. There is nothing about performance or fitness or "TEAM2007" that is the issue here....it is good old ego..GC has one the size of Mount Olympus...SG too has one...and Dravid is utilizing the opportunity in between...After all if bench strength is all they want...why don't test out Ganguly's international form when the series has been won..since the domestic form & fitness has been proved??

    By Blogger DDirector, at 22:29  

  • Prem in his comment said:

    "At this point, though, purely from a fan's perspective, it's hugely heartening to see the team out there without a single one of the seniors, missing two frontline bowlers -- and still making a good fist of the defense against a team ranked number two in the world. Talk of an advertisement for young blood, this is it."

    Karthik was profligate compared to one frontline bowler, Harbhajan. The other two: Santh and RP were not that much different from Pathan. Rather than complement these guys for their show, I view it as Pathan being too wayward and expensive in ODIs and these guys not faring too badly compared to the standard he has established in ODIs. We *have* to set drastically higher pace standards if we are serious about winning the WC 07.

    The problem is not with Santh and RP. The problem is with the horrible domestic structure that never tests these bowlers consistently and adequately enough before letting them loose on the main stage.

    By Blogger TFFY, at 22:44  

  • Poor JPY and the concept of allrounder/bits and pieces in india's scheme of things...
    If u remember i was teh one who repeatedly talked about how JPy is wasted or not utilized by this team management.
    JPy is a batting allrounder and he was not given chances to bat ... he was totally given chances 3 times out of his 10 odd innings ...

    Everybody talks abt rao but india is too gud in batting...but noone puts their hand up for allrounder... and we messed this guy ...

    I hope Mayur and worma remember the heated conversation we ahd before ... on JPY . Is it age????????

    By Blogger rajesh, at 22:47  

  • Did anybody notice the mess the thinktank did with their experiments in batting order last match???
    I am for experiements .... But i felt they made one huge mistake and that is the reason india lost ...(may be too big a statement ..but still)
    Sending Dhoni in as no 3 and yuvi at no 4 was the the mistake ....
    That meant no experience down the order .. and No powerhitter was present in the late half of the batting.
    u need atleast one powerhitter (dhoni or yuvi ) at the end ...
    rao is in dravid mould and raina is a new comer ...

    By Blogger rajesh, at 22:53  

  • ddirector, jai, bouncer... all of you talk about proof of Ganguly's divisiveness and GC's lies etc. well, of course no one is going to come out and openly accuse either of them. What do you want --- Laxman to make a statement that "Yes, SG did say that" ??? Is that productive ??? If all of you read various articles, OBSERVE body language, tone in speech and other subtle actions it is not hard to deduce that there WAS (and probably still is) divisiveness in the team driven largely by the skipper. There are several situations when people do not publicly go out and try to prove or disprove actions. Who knows what India's history as an independent nation would have been like if Nehru and Edwina Mountbatten had not been involved in a relationship or infact who is to say whether they had something going or whether Sanjay Gandhi and Rajiv Gandhi were brothers or half-brothers ??? What's the point anyway...

    We need to build a winning team and SG does not figure in that team based on his current form and performance. Venu, Raina, JPY are judged based on a few games while SG has had 3 years of insignificant contribution to the Indian ODI team. If he consistently performs at the domestic level, if his fitness and fielding improve and if he willing to be a team member then sure nothing like having him around.

    By Blogger MM, at 23:15  

  • mm,

    A grand logic. You said "Venu is better than SG in currnt batting form, and do not put up stats how good Ganguly was in the past" So we compare the current international ODI stats of SG and Venu on your terms, i.e., only since Venu's start in SL. Then you say that comparison is meaningless because Venu has not been around that much.

    So let me sort this out. Venu's current stats don't support the claim you make. So you say that the available stats are too few to draw a conclusion. But you declare him to be a better bat than SG.

    By Blogger bouncer, at 23:26  

  • By reading the comments by some of our fellow bloggers, I cant help but think we fans are so fickle minded. Just one defeat (when trying a few things) and all the hell breaks loose. Nowadays, the buzz word around cricket circles is 'WC2007' vision. Well, IMHO, today is the one of the two best days in recent Indian cricket which can help us march toward that vision. The other day is the first game at Nagpur.
    Coming to today's match, its nice we got a chance to see some of our younger talent on the field. Gambhir,RPSingh,Santh,Venu,Raina are the ones in question here. After this game, one can say Gambhir grabbed his chance with both hands. RPSingh is someone you really want to have on your bench. Santh is fast and aggressive but his time has to come, may be on some overseas tours. Venu and Raina are superior on field, excellent with the bat and they are great prospects. The other thing that emerged from this contest is the ability of Sehwag to do some unforeseen duties like captaincy and I must say he did a good job until he provided a complete offside field to Dilshan and Russel even when they were repeatedly sweeping.
    And fielding was top class. I cant help but go back to the days of Hansie's South Africans. Fielded like tigers.
    And coming to the selection, selectors did ONE OF THE BEST THINGS today in recent times. DROPPED Rao. Eventhough it looks like an immature and an idiotic decision, I am sure, IMO, that it will serve Rao and India a great deal. Rao is basically in Dravid mould. There was a time when we were tempted to drop Dravid but didnt. Instead we gave the WK gloves to him and he responded magnificently and the rest is history. Now take Rao's case. With his style of batting, atleast in the beginning, he is gonna cost us some games. Now that he is dropped he will get a chance to look back and see his batting where it needs improvement. But he MUST be in the bigger scheme of things wrt Indian cricket. I am sure Rayudu will keep him on his toes.
    So, friends, lets work towards our vision and support our team instead of jumping after a defeat. As Indian cricket fans, who want to see our team lifting the Cup in WI, thats the least we can do.
    Best of luck, Team India!!

    By Blogger HolySmoke, at 23:26  

  • "What do you want --- Laxman to make a statement that "Yes, SG did say that" ??? Is that productive ??? If all of you read various articles, OBSERVE body language, tone in speech and other subtle actions it is not hard to deduce that there WAS (and probably still is) divisiveness in the team driven largely by the skipper."


    So there we go again. No hard facts, but subtle actions, tones, hints etc. etc. It is like seeing Jesus Christ in urine stain by some southern-baptist Jesus freaks.
    A faith-based logic!

    By Blogger bouncer, at 23:33  

  • Guys,
    Why do we keep talking about just one player saurav ???
    SG will and can be back later say after 6 months too .. because he is proven material and will be able to adapt easily ...
    What abt the other selections???
    1. No allrounders ..
    2. why do we still play 4 specialist bowlers .. why not 5 atleast when we are winning etc ...

    By Blogger rajesh, at 23:40  

  • I earlier said that even 350 is "chase-able" on this wicket and 285 was not good enough. Why? It was a belter of a wicket, even more so than Nagpur. There was absolutely no movement in the ball and Indian openers were scoring at 9 an over in the beginning (5 overs - 43 runs). If we managed only 285, it was because our batting failed big time (Yuvi, Agarkar and Kartik wasted too many balls, and between 40-45 overs, we scored, what, 15 runs???). If we could score 350 in Nagpur, we should have scored more here. People who say we missed SRT here, GG made up for that quite nicely (may be even better).

    It will be wrong to blame our bowlers alone. I don't think any other team in the world (except may be Aus) would have been able to defend 285 on this wicket. And RPS, SS, MiK are no McG/Kasp/Warne.

    By Blogger Deepak, at 23:42  

  • Our pacers bowling at 140kph ...
    Is it really true or is it beacuse of evening dew,climate etc ...
    I am not very sure whetehr rpsingh bowls at 135-140 as he was bowling at around 125-130 previously???
    How is it possible?????
    Sreeeshanth defntely bowls fast ...

    By Blogger rajesh, at 23:42  

  • Well said deepak ..
    we should ahve scored atleast 320
    Our batting did not click ...
    May be experimentation with dhoni and yuvi - both was teh mistake ...

    By Blogger rajesh, at 23:44  

  • Deepak,
    " And RPS, SS, MiK are no McG/Kasp/Warne."
    Its a surprise this statement coming from a knowledgeable fan like you.
    How can one compare RPS and SS to Aussie bowlers, McG in his first few appeareances is no McG with around a couple of hundred appearances...Is he?
    As a matter of fact, I would take Murali Kartchick anytime over Warne.
    How do we know something works or not without experimentation?

    By Blogger HolySmoke, at 23:51  

  • Rajesh,
    I don't think experimentations are a mistake. May be it was one of those off days for India batting where a lot of people failed in the same match. Yuvi wasted too many balls but who knows, if he had stuck around he would have made up for that by scoring at strike rate of over 100. It was a batting failure where we fell short by atleast 65 runs.

    But I am surprised many bloggers here thought 285 was a good score. Just because SL has not been firing in this series, they thought they wouldn't be able to chase this mediocre of a score. A few wins here from India and a few losses from SL in this series and people, true to our volatile Indian spirits, have started thinking India is invincible and SL is bad. I am not willing to write off this SL team just yet. If India's opponent was Pak/Eng/SA on this wicket, I can bet that we would have lost for anything less than 340.

    On a side note, I want to mention that when India had made 314 against Pak on the same wicket, most of the people in my office predicted that India would win and we had a bet (them all vs. me alone). I had a great time collecting the winning amount from many of them later :-)

    By Blogger Deepak, at 00:05  

  • Deepak,
    i am for experiments... but i feel they have messed up slightly in tehe xperimentatioon ..
    here is what i posted before ...

    Did anybody notice the mess the thinktank did with their experiments in batting order last match???
    I am for experiements .... But i felt they made one huge mistake and that is the reason india lost ...(may be too big a statement ..but still)
    Sending Dhoni in as no 3 and yuvi at no 4 was the the mistake ....
    That meant no experience down the order .. and No powerhitter was present in the late half of the batting.
    u need atleast one powerhitter (dhoni or yuvi ) at the end ...
    rao is in dravid mould and raina is a new comer ...

    By Blogger rajesh, at 00:11  

  • holysmoke,
    Don't get senti there. Yes, SS and RP Singh may become as great as McG after 200 matches but all I said was with the present bowling attacks of various teams in the world, may be only Australia would have been able to pull off a victory defending 285 on this batting paradise.

    And MiK over Warne? I thought it was a no-brainer but I would like to hear you why MiK is better. My opinion is that MiK should be chucked out of the team. But may be you know more. Tell me why - I am all ears :-)

    By Blogger Deepak, at 00:13  

  • Deepak,
    Why it shud be a no brainer.
    FACT: Warne failed in India.

    By Blogger HolySmoke, at 00:23  

  • Deepak,
    even if you wanna talk abt present bowling attacks, you tell me where was McG hiding when Bangladesh was chasing that target not long time ago.
    So its unfair to compare. If every Australian batsman thinks I am no SRT or BC, they wouldnt have been what they have been. Right?

    By Blogger HolySmoke, at 00:29  

  • My point is, lets not judge them on the basis of a few appearances. Give them time, and keep them involved. We gotta believe in our team. If they are not giving their best, we would know that. And its nice to know that we have a reasonable bench.

    By Blogger HolySmoke, at 00:32  

  • Bench strength is gud ...
    india really did weel while defending ...
    Problem why india lost teh match was due to batting .. short of 40 odd runs ...

    By Blogger rajesh, at 00:51  

  • regarding ganguly...
    if anybody is trying to tell us that he did not play politics just to retain his spot, you guys got to be kidding...

    Recently there was an article in Deccan Herald written by Brijesh patil (Who was the Chairman of Selectors that selected the World Cup Squad), he said that it was Ganguly who argued to pick Dinesh Mongia over VVS Laxman(I dont say it was wrong as the captain may have had a plan)... the selectors obliged... but then Ganguly goes about lamblasting the selectors for dropping Laxman as if he knew nothing...

    Added to this his pathetic fielding & running between the wickets... the Lazy body language...

    Yes ganguly did build a team from 2000... but since the 2003 world cup its been on the downslide... his form has been terrible to say the least...

    I think he should be kept out of the Indian team from now on, the team is just begining to show some signs of life... the fielding & running between the wickets have climbed leaps and bounds... they dont stop trying till the very end... yeah the bowling is still a weak link, as NONE of our bowlers can keep the runs down consistently, this is one area that will cost India a lot of matches... but good fielding will help to an extent...

    So inspite of there being lots of areas where we can improve, I think the team is on the right track....

    By Blogger Swamy Cricathmanandha, at 00:52  

  • I hope that the [pseudo] technocratic vision of India's future as touted by our leaders [India Shining etc.] and now the cricket establishment [Vision 2007] does bear fruits in the long run. Unfortunately, I am one of those who gravely doubt both!

    If not for the real and permanent damage being now done to India's economy, environment and social fabric by the politicians, and simultaneously to the cricket team by the selectors and 'think-tank', what is most depressing is the crass acceptance and internalization of any view as long as it is proffered by a white man! We need not look back to Prithviraj Chauhan and Mahmud of Ghazni [or was it Ghori?], just think of Mir Jafar and Jagat Seth, or the innumerable 'Rajahs', 'Nawabs', babus and zamindars. I am not, therefore the least surprised when GC's the words of leaked mail are taken at face value, even when the subsequent enquiry, at least going by reports on papers, have proven them to be ridiculous. But am I saddned by it all? Definitely...

    By Blogger oldmanblues, at 01:00  

  • @Swamy Cricathmanandha

    quite apart from the fact that IMHO, if SG is to be held up for leainkg dressing room news and selection news to the media, so should be Brijesh Patel...

    Since when have the Bangalore/Karnataka lobby thought beyond the Southern representation in the team? SG at the least can't be held for favouring anyone from his state, can he? And if I remember correctly, aren't BP and GC neighbours in Bangalore?

    By Blogger oldmanblues, at 01:10  

  • @Swamy Cricathmanandha

    Yes, he might be accused of wrong judgement, but then SG has never played at being divine unlike SRT and our current flavour of the month, GC

    By Blogger oldmanblues, at 01:12  

  • Let's also not forget that the same VRV Singh who was supposed to expose Ganguly in the recent Duleep match on a green top specially prepared for the purpose, but returned humbled, was selected, while SG was ignored after scoring 100...

    By Blogger oldmanblues, at 01:17  

  • oldmanblues,

    //quite apart from the fact that IMHO, if SG is to be held up for leainkg dressing room news and selection news to the media, so should be Brijesh Patel...//

    Well the article appeared in the days after Saurav Leaked the dressing room disc to the TV channel... so why blame Brijesh? If Saurav can do it just because he scored a miserable century against Zimbabwe... why cant Brijesh try to defend the selectors about the Laxman exclusion... if you can think back the selectors took a lot of stick for that and Ganguly did the "I know nothing" act...

    Then about Bangalore/Karnataka lobby & South representation... can you tell me one state/zone that is any different? Ganguly could not favour anyone from his state as his state has produced no reasonable talent, even then he tried his best with Deep Das Gupta the greatest wicket keeper India has seen & Rohan Gavaskar ... besides Ganguly kept his favorite men in the team no matter how they performed... ZAK, YS, MK, AN, etc... have survived in the team while Murali Karthik, Hemang Badani, Laxman, etc... have suffered...

    So please dont try to make a saint out of Ganguly... he is not one and deserves to struggle to get into the team... let him work hard and get in... I dont mind but he would have learnt a few good lessons along the way...

    By Blogger Swamy Cricathmanandha, at 01:20  

  • one lesson we learnt from this game: dhoni cannot be relied upon to do it every time. we need backup. in that sense the return of kaif is welcome

    By Blogger GK, at 01:21  

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    By Blogger GK, at 01:21  

  • //Yes, he might be accused of wrong judgement, but then SG has never played at being divine unlike SRT and our current flavour of the month, GC //

    You seem to be a bitter soul because SG lost his divinity... SRT never has acted devine, its the cricket mad nation that has made him divine... GC for that matter is a control freak and if our board has picked him to do a job then there is no point cribbing about it

    //Let's also not forget that the same VRV Singh who was supposed to expose Ganguly in the recent Duleep match on a green top specially prepared for the purpose, but returned humbled, was selected, while SG was ignored after scoring 100... //

    My question is simple Why hasnt Ganguly put in this effort for the past 2 years? When he was leading the team he never really gave a damn about any of this... all his pre-match comments were of the same tune... I AM HITTING THE BALL WELL IN THE NETS, FORM IS JUST A KNOCK AWAY... how many times have we heard that....

    By Blogger Swamy Cricathmanandha, at 01:26  

  • //one lesson we learnt from this game: dhoni cannot be relied upon to do it every time. we need backup. //
    For that matter nobody can be expected to succeed every time... Dhoni is good talent, will only improve, off course he has to work hard... in fact his keeping has to get a touch more consistent...

    //in that sense the return of kaif is welcome//
    sure, but one does feel for VR & JPY... but I gues all of them will remain in the rotation...

    By Blogger Swamy Cricathmanandha, at 01:31  

  • @Swamy Cricathmanandha

    You seemed to miss the point. While SG has been already tried and executed on these blogs for his 'leak', the selectors and various 'journalists' who are responsible for at least the same level of crime have been given the clean chit by the same bloggers here.

    And let's not get into the regionalism issue... The number of deserving players who have missed the bus because of the Mumbai lobby throughout the ages is too long a list for this blog, but then the Karnataka lobby of the nineties, when in power is also no less criminal in that respect [think Kuruvilla in his prime]! And as for SG and Bengal... well, think R Bose and SS Paul, both of whom are miles ahead in terms of performances consistently over the SSanths and VRV Singhs being touted as India's future... So please don't try to equate SG to BP...

    As for DDG, Ganguly has also been known to have backed [without justification feel many here, and I am one of them] Parthiv and others...

    By Blogger oldmanblues, at 01:34  

  • Why anybody talking against SG looks so logical with his arguments and SG supporters really illogical?

    By Blogger Shivam, at 01:36  

  • My question is simple Why hasnt Ganguly put in this effort for the past 2 years? ////

    Where did u get this info? And show me one captain whose personal form has not suffered while leading India in the long run. As for his statement about his current form, I remember him saying the same when continuing with RD [inordinately, felt many at that time] when, not a few years back, he was considered unsuited for the shorter game...

    By Blogger oldmanblues, at 01:38  

  • @Shivam

    Why anybody talking against SG looks so logical with his arguments and SG supporters really illogical?///

    Are you talking about yourself?


    By Blogger oldmanblues, at 01:40  

  • @swamy
    yes, indeed. VR in particular is a talent and im sure RD and GC gave recognizd it. he will be very much in the plans for the future and Im sure this has been explained to him so that he is not too disappointed missing out on last 2 odis. having said that his honeymoon should now be over and he shud start showing more responsibility

    By Blogger GK, at 01:41  

  • @SC

    Well the article appeared in the days after Saurav Leaked the dressing room disc to the TV channel///

    So 'Saurav leaked'? And what did Harsha Bhogle do? He was obviously asking questions about the weather? Six or seven times repeatedly... and that too, during the heat of a match...

    By Blogger oldmanblues, at 01:45  

  • Look at these statemets, how logical they appear...
    1. Ganguly's performance wasn't very bad in the recent past. He was leading from the front, specially since year 2003
    2. The maggy noodle jokes or any other joke about him spending only 2-3 min on the crease were just rubbish. It was least suited to him.
    3. He backed all the youngters like Yuvraj Singh, ZK and HS. Yuvraj Singh and ZK or HS were all performing up to their potential in recent two years. They were all looking very hardworking and devoted for Indian Cricket.
    4. Only basic change which have been made in the Indian team is exclusion of SG. After exclusion of SG, Team India is really playing pathetically. All the effectiveness of the team under SG has gone. We were really showing lot of committment during last two years when he was leading from the front.
    5. Ganguly listens to everybody. He gives all kind of respect to seniopr players like SRT and the coach. He appreciates everybody's ideas.
    6. He only backs youngsters like Kaif who are really committed and hardworking and who have shown consistency. He never backs younsters who are underperformers.

    Really looks logical when you go through all my points. Aren't they??

    By Blogger Shivam, at 01:46  

  • New kid on the fast bowler's block

    VRV horsepower

    Siddhartha Vaidyanathan in Mohali

    April 1, 2005

    VRV Singh does his thing © Cricinfo

    It wasn't a common sight in Indian domestic cricket and watching it gave one
    a unique thrill. One of the most refreshing sights on the first two days of
    the Ranji Trophy final, between Punjab and Railways at Mohali, was a
    20-year-old fast bowler steaming in and troubling batsman after batsman not
    with swing or seam but with sheer pace. Vikram Rajvir Singh or simply VRV,
    as everyone here calls him, is a fresh burst of energy in a country teeming
    with workhorse medium pacers.

    This is VRV's debut first-class season but batsmen around the country have
    already begun the chatter. Not because of the 28 wickets in five games,
    including a ten-wicket haul, but because of an extra dimension that he
    possesses compared to the rest - pace. Put Parthiv Patel's face on Zaheer
    Khan's body, add a couple of more inches in height, lengthen the run-up by a
    few yards, run in with a rhythmic action that gathers momentum with every
    step - hands moving like efficient pistons - deliver with an open-chested
    action and let out a mighty groan when the ball whizzes past the batsman's
    shoulder and you have done a perfect imitation of VRV's routine.

    Line and length are sometimes optional but he will he never compromise on
    speed. Speak to him and he drops words like "pace", "speed" and "fast" with
    an occasional mention of "swing". On the first day, with the sun beating
    down, with the pitch easing out, with the batsmen dominating, with the
    spinners releasing the pressure at the other end, VRV ran in with all his
    fury. The hotter it got, the faster he bowled. On the second day, he dug
    some in short and surprised batsmen who were well set and scoring freely. He
    caught the splice of the bat regularly, induced three chances - all of which
    were fluffed. He cussed away, shook his head, shouted out loud - and
    thundered in faster. He finished with figures of 1 for 79 in 23 overs and
    successfully proved how the scoreboard can be a proverbial ass.

    Batsmen around the country know better. Tamil Nadu's strong batting line-up
    floundered against him. And VVS Laxman, who saw him torment the rest of the
    Hyderabad batsmen, was surprised that such a talented bowler wasn't picked
    in the North Zone Duleep Trophy squad.

    Of all the Indian first-class bowlers Intikhab Alam, Punjab's coach, has
    seen, he reckons VRV is the fastest. Bhupinder Singh Sr, Punjab's former
    coach, says, "All he wants to do is bowl fast," he says, "nothing else
    matters to him." Sukhvinder Bawa, his coach since he was six, talks about
    the days when VRV came back from a game and felt disappointed because he
    hadn't injured enough batsmen. "When you can bowl with such pace, why spoil
    the boy with over-coaching?" Sukhvinder, who also coached Yuvraj Singh,
    asks. "Control can be developed over time but at this age he has to be
    allowed to bowl as fast as he can."

    Now begins the tough part. Munaf Patel appeared two years back and made an
    instant impression by bowling quick before disappearing into the injury
    maze. Sandeep Patil, his India A coach, felt that the problem was as much
    mental as physical. VRV has to guard against those two evils - injury and
    mental meandering. He is also fortunate to have an excellent support system
    backing him: Alam's experience with several faster bowlers with madder
    streaks, and Punjab's brilliant academies to revert to the basics in case he
    goes through a lean phase.

    He isn't the finished article and will have to first find a place in the
    North Zone squad. He will need to have another consistent season and crank
    up this pace. He will need to stay fit and regularly bowl under searing
    conditions, on thankless pitches, against high-quality batsmen. Swing and
    seam need to come naturally. If he manages all - and the start is highly
    promising - the term Indian fast bowler might no more be an oxymoron.


    By Blogger Shivam, at 01:48  

  • You seem to be a bitter soul because SG lost his divinity///

    No I am not! In fact, I felt that he should have given up his captaincy some time ago and concentrated on his batting, if only in the short term [and thus gained GOD like status in the process al la gandhi/SRT]! However, I guess SG couldn't have guessed the viciousness of the media/politician/old school boy clique that run Indian cricket, nor the supine nature of the 'fans'.

    Having said that, I do not doubt his calibre.

    By Blogger oldmanblues, at 01:56  

  • @Shivam

    I know it is difficult for you to comprehend, but could you try to separate each individual author and follow their line of thinking, rather than clubbing them all together...

    Besides... could you also provide links to the statements whenever next you decide to quote others...

    By Blogger oldmanblues, at 01:59  

  • @oldmanblues
    i lost my respect and sympathy for SG when i realized he was not willing to give up captaincy like a year ago

    By Blogger GK, at 02:01  

  • Oldmanblues,
    //Where did u get this info? //
    What info, its there for anyone to see... you telling me that Ganguly was playing great cricket over the past 2 years... isnt that a long enough sample, infact his ODI form too has disappeared with the advent of the one bouncer per over rule...

    //And show me one captain whose personal form has not suffered while leading India in the long run. //
    So does that mean we have to continue to wait and pray that Ganguly returns to form? Just look at him try hard now... he did not do this before he was dropped... clear indication that he was over confident of his spot in the team....

    //As for his statement about his current form, I remember him saying the same when continuing with RD [inordinately, felt many at that time] when, not a few years back, he was considered unsuited for the shorter game... //

    Oh yeah... he tried his best to kick out Dravid ... Dravid was given only 2 options either Keep wickets or get out... its to Dravid's credit that he WORKED HARD on his Keeping and REINVENTED himself as an ODI bat...

    Besides all this just check out Dravids contributions to Ganguly's captancy records... a small average of 100 runs an innings per Ganguly test win...

    By Blogger Swamy Cricathmanandha, at 02:04  

  • GK >> i lost my respect and sympathy for SG when i realized he was not willing to give up captaincy like a year ago///

    That's ur personal opinion and I respect that! But that is no defense for the bile that is being proffered in the media and in particular this blog and cricinfo...

    By Blogger oldmanblues, at 02:04  

  • Oldmanblues,

    There was a time when Ganguly was truly great... he lead from the front, he stood up for the deserving, he took on the aussies or for that matter anyone head on... but do you honestly believe that over the past 2 years he was honest to indian cricket? he was pre-occupied in retaining his captancy and Indian cricket took a nose dive... wasnt it the same team that did well till 2003 that failed so badly since then...

    anyway I am stopping for now...

    By Blogger Swamy Cricathmanandha, at 02:07  

  • he tried his best to kick out Dravid///

    So far as I can recall, at a time when RD was considered a burden of the team, SG helped RD reinvent himself.

    To his credit, RD did a wonderful job!

    By Blogger oldmanblues, at 02:08  

  • yeah, bye all!

    By Blogger oldmanblues, at 02:10  

  • @oldmanblues,

    SG *was* a good batman and a very good captain as he backed RD etc during his prime time and took India to the next level...this statement is equally true as the next statement that SG *is* very bad batsman and a bad captain as he backed wrong ones and also when he found himself in great trouble he was more worried for himself than the team. All the heights that he gave to the Indian team was lost and he left the team even at a place which was lower the height from where he took over the captaincy in 2000...There should not be any confusion about these two facts...so why to argue...team is doing well...love the team and not any individual as the attitude of loving a particular person will not make us perform at the top level...suppose my father is a military officer and we are fighting with PAK. MY father gets injured severely and loses his legs or anything like that and he says that he still wanta to hold the position of the officer. As a lover of nation, I will stop my father from doing that. So when it comes to the highest level I will prefer my nation and the team and the game of cricket than backing SG. I will always love my father or SG but outside the team. I will always remember his servive to the team or nation, but will never keep him in the team when his exclusion can help the team...this will be my appeal to all SG lovers...Actually this attitude will always harm the game of cricket in India...we have to move forward and fight with other countries like Aus...we can't afford to be emotional

    By Blogger Shivam, at 02:21  

  • @Shivam
    dude the fact of the matter is if you sit to select top 6 ODI batsman in india today...you will have to select SG...unless you have ego issues which clearly GC has..and insecurity which RD is showing. After all the fact remains that an allrounder was dumped after 4 matches to select a pace bowler, India's great pace hope (he might yet become the next Srinath) who was hit to distraction by your same SG in a greentop of a surface not 2 weeks back. MK was selected based on proving his fitness and a scratchy 50 replacing one of "India's batting future". If the conscience is clear and there is no politics involved you gotta give a chance to SG who too was asked to prove his form and fitness. The crap about divisiveness is just that..utter crap. If SG was so divisive his teammates wont have stood by him after that GC email. And to talk about the Laxman issue...who dropped Laxman despite his scoring century in the Challenger?? Or was he ghosting the selection meeting?
    One can prove anything if one selects only a limited set of incidents. But history shows SG the captain has been one pillar to whom every new player has faith if he performs in the international arena.RD in contrast seems a captain who wants to protect his job first.
    Vision 2007 is nice..but i think they are missing a vital cog by politically keeping SG the ODI player out of it.

    By Blogger DDirector, at 03:17  

  • I really feel for oldmanblues. He tries logic where illogical emotion and regionalist sentiments hold sway. Ganguly's problem was he tried to be forthright, and above regional biases when most of his countrymen did not believe in those values. He also failed to see that the public has a very short memory, and you have got to always cozy up to media to get the national mood swinging your way. He is an unfortunate victim of motivated innuendos and petty politics, and may never come back. But his achievements as a batsman and a captain will be there for the posterity. These cannot be obliterated through sheer illogical hatred.

    By Blogger devips, at 03:17  

  • ddirector,
    i think u are teh first one i have come across who have said somethink wrong about Rahul Dravid ... useem to be have different ideas ...
    But do u really feel so ...? or in ur enthu to support Sg u are defaming rahul???

    By Blogger rajesh, at 03:43  

  • holysmoke,
    Relax. I never said Santh/RPS should be dropped. In fact, I am more than willing to invest time/money in these promising youngsters. All I said was, today, McG and Warne are better bowlers. Saying Cindy Crawford is hotter than Liz Hurley doesn't mean that Liz is not hot :-)

    By Blogger Deepak, at 04:28  

  • we're back to the SG issue again? NOOOOO...

    hmm...come on..MK was always coming back..from the time he was chosen to captain the India Seniors he was being earmarked as being one of the core of the Indian team..(all the better i say)..and frankly i was surprised with the inclusion of VRV..pleasently surprised...at least now if hes selected..he can play pressure free and relaxed without the media and all jumping down his throat blaming him for the series defeat to SL..:-P...

    guys..accept it..SG had a great run..but all good things come to an end..maybe he can still contribute to Indias future by helping youngsters at the domestic level..being a sort of mentor to them..if he does do something like that..well my respect for him would go up abit..:)..

    oh and another thing..i read something above about SRT being on equal with GHANDI?..guys!! get some fucking perspective!!..SRT plays a freaking SPORT!..he's good at it..but its still a freaking SPORT!..

    By Blogger TheChowmeinWarrior, at 06:02  

  • From what I have seen of Venu Rao, he is no match to Kaif. Kaif has a lot of limitations as far as shot selection and even the range of shots is concerned, but Venu Rao is not close to even Praveen Amre or Ajay Sharma. But I am sure we'll see a lot of him in the years to come, along with that stupid Murali Kartik, now that the south lobby is back in action. And also much of that Sree Santh, who I don't think holds a candle to Ashish Nehra. He may have speed, but so has a speed gun. I'll be happy if I am proved wrong; but I do not have much hopes for Sree Santh.

    One boarder has mentioned Bose and Paul here. Over the last three years these two guys have proved themselves over and over again in domestic cricket. Ganguly's problem was that he was non-parochial or even anti-parochial with a mission. He was too conscious to back someone from his own state even if they had the abilities. Someone mentioned Deep Dasgupta; sorry, SG never backed him. Dasgupta got picked and dropped because of his own merits and demerits. He got picked because a certain Rodney Marsh spoke highly about him; he got dropped because he was pathetic behind the wickets (one cannot deny that he was good in front of the wickets though). But SG, to my dismay has not allowed a fair chance to Bose and Paul even when he was the captain. Every other person would have tried to give a chance to a deserving person from his own state; like Azhar did to Raju, and SRT did to Bahutule, Nilesh Kulkarni etc etc. SG did not even speak about Lahiri who is a way better spinner than Kartik. Now with SG gone, I am sure we won't see any player from Bengal in the next ten years.

    By Blogger Santanu De, at 08:23  

  • santanu de <- and other bengalis like him are here to politise Ganguly's expulsion. Guys like them shud be banned from writing their stupid comments. India needs to try out players and with the series won it is just the thing to do. Indians have always been and always will be biased to their zone as has been proved time and again. For all the good Ganguly did for the team .. it was 99% self interest and 1% team. ganguly has always been and always will be a selfish player. He is into fitness and all that crap.. why wasnt this done when he was the captain? Shows he was in his comfort zone didnt really care as he knew his place was safe. But once he is out ... here we go about all talk of scoring runs, being fit, coming back and all that. This man (GANGULY) should NEVER be taken back come what may!

    By Blogger Aus, at 12:27  

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