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Wednesday, November 16, 2005

'Tis the season to experiment

Apparently the rotation/experimentation bug is catching -- it has per this report spread to the Under-19 levels as well.
The success of that ploy has prompted the under-19 team to try out their own version at the Afro-Asia Cup, beginning this weekend in Visakhapatnam.
For one, there are seven — count them — changes from the side that beat Australia 4-1 at home in September. ‘‘No one can take his place in the team for granted, no one is indispensable’’, India U-19 India coach Venkatesh Prasad said.
‘‘The players, and those who follow the game, had taken it for granted that we’d retain the same side’’, says Praveen Amre, chief of the junior selection committee. ‘‘But we decided to go for experimentation instead. The plan is to be dynamic, not to stick to just one combination, but to rigorously carry out the rotation policy.’’

Woo hoo -- not knocking it, but was reminded of the story of the monkey and the axe.


  • What is the story of the monkey and the ax?

    By Blogger Gary Freedman, at 16:08  

  • Seven changes are a lil too much.

    By Blogger Hemal, at 16:13  

  • yeah Prem...we need to story :-))

    btw The players, and those who follow the game, had taken it for granted that we’d retain the same side I hope this is not the reason for rotation!

    By Blogger worma, at 16:13  

  • Worma: Now they've started springing surprises on the fans! *grin*

    You know, the one where the woodsman hands his pet monkey an axe and goes to sleep and said monkey sees fly sit on master's nose and chops it in two -- uh oh, chopped head in two, too.

    Same difference. Rotation and experimentation can be a pretty lethal axe, wielded by monkeys who haven't been told what it is for, no?

    By Blogger Prem Panicker, at 16:21  

  • ROFL Prem :-))....(ok I knew *this* story..even a emperor and monkey version of it too)....and very very well applied :-)...btw, you know Venky a bit? Coach material? Or his assignment is return of some old favours to some party?

    By Blogger worma, at 16:28  

  • worma:

    For all Venky is worth, I read somewhere that he passed a Australian Level 3 accredited coaching course. But that don't mean he really grasped everything that was there in the course... ;-)

    By Blogger Ruchir Joshi, at 16:33  

  • worma: venky did a couple of courses in coaching. by the way, i did a degree course in history -- who was that sardar patel chappie, again?

    By Blogger Prem Panicker, at 16:35  

  • Since we are on rotations...
    Hypothesis: Bowler (preferably MK) should be supersub in the rest of the games.
    Proof: If I were to analyze the future games, I would say that we need to play to our strengths. Our forte is batting and hence we need to pack the side with batsmen who need to go out unpressured and unfettered to take on the SA bowling. Clearly, there was pressure in the first game and it showed especially in RD, GG, MSD and MK's dismissals. Not much time faced by VS to comment on pressure.
    But he usually doesn't care.
    These guys need to go out with the attitude that they are the ones who are going to help the bowlers. The bowlers play a support role and intelligent shuffling should suffice while defending a huge total or trying to prevent SA from running away with a very huge total.
    Go back to the four bowlers (YS/SRT/VS make up the fifth) formula and have a bowler as a supersub. In case we bat first and make a huge score, we can rest one of GG, MK to bring in a bowler. In we bowl first, don't use the supersub unless SA is in a position to get 275+.
    If we play to our weakness and go in with the assumption that IP is going to get tonked therefore I need MK as a fifth, it is defensive.

    By Blogger sauravganguly, at 16:39  

  • Didn't the junior selectors do something more radical against Eng in Feb 2005?- ie. they scratched one winning team and found two more!! Also I remember the top order batting against Aus was dismal. Even in the last WC, Dhawan only came into the squad very late. but was the best batsman of the tournament.

    By Blogger IssaicN, at 16:41  

  • thx for that info, ruchir, prem.

    But thats why I was wondering...how come he suddenly landed this job permanently...when Robin was in it for so long..and never got permanent assignment? Or did he refuse?

    And all I know about Venky's assignment is that he was making all the right noises about wanting to be the national bowling coach...and then suddenly lands this job!

    By Blogger worma, at 16:48  

  • SauravGanguly, I also feel the supersub for the D/N should be a specialist bowler. The runs leaked by the non-specialist fifth bowler first up, can be made up by batting in easier conditions. The combination would be: Sachin, Gambhir, Pathan, Dravid, Sehwag, Yuvraj, Dhoni, Yadav/ Raina.

    India top order was tentative, even overawed. That said after a while, SA bowling had lost its edge. It was accurate backed by great fielding. It was easier to score off than the Indians realised. I remember Eng and Pieterson (Jan 2005) tonking the SA bowlers to shreds after a hesitent start.

    By Blogger IssaicN, at 16:57  

  • worma:

    I think making right noises is the only way to get jobs in BCCI.

    By Blogger Ruchir Joshi, at 17:13  

  • ruchir...right. But just making noise won't land you the job, I would think? Not with our BCCI :-)

    By Blogger worma, at 17:17  

  • for D/N matches if we bowl second this what we should do
    bring spinners on after 10 overs before dew factor come in, may be even hold off one power play
    say after 20 overs bowl a quickie and a spinner in tandem

    By Blogger cricfan, at 17:31  

  • We do rotations and dropping on everyone - Why not SEHWAG?Drop Sehwag for 2 games to bring his hunger back.
    Instead of Sehwag take Gautam Gambhir for opening, and replace Kaif with Raina.

    By Blogger Glorious Uncertainty(GU), at 18:36  

  • I think this Indian team is really not the best we can have.
    There are a whole lot of glaring weaknesses, waiting to be exploited. The bowling attack, is pedestrain, save Harbhajan.

    Here's my 14 for ODIs. Shaky players for whom we should be ACTIVELY looking for replacements are with "*"

    1. VS
    2. SRT
    3. VVS
    4. RD
    5. YS
    6. MSD
    7. ZK
    8. MK (Karthik)*
    9. HS
    10. RP
    11. AN
    12. IP (Super Sub)
    13. AA
    14. MK* (Kaif)

    Go with a full 3+2 attack, we can't keep praying for 280+ totals. It pays to have your best players in the team.
    If for some reason, while batting first, we fail to click, substitute IP for AN.
    Actively look for better spinners than Karthik, and more consistent performers than Kaif who can fill into any slot.
    Somebody mentioned GG, haven't seen him, so can't comment...

    Cmon guys, you can "consistently" win only with a bowling attack that delivers every single time...

    By Blogger Harry, at 22:51  

  • And if for some reason, we are 40 overs + and have lost 2 wickets or so, substitute IP with VVS (better fielder, more bowling options).

    Takers anyone?

    By Blogger Harry, at 22:55  

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