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Friday, September 02, 2005

Ind-NZ afterthought

This is my first post on sight screen. I feel honoured to post here as this blog is becoming my favorite as far as cricket is concerned. It could not be better to start on a day when India have won a cricket match (notwithstanding the absence of Bond and Vettori). I feel nice and hope that all feel the same too. Although not much should be read on just a single victory (especially as we Indians have mastered this habbit of pampering our cricketers just too much, which to me is the topmost reason for what happened after pak'04), still there are some things which could be taken note of:

1. Emergence of kaif as a No.3/4- I think the time has come for Kaif to cement his place in that position. When SRT comes, he can grab the opener's slot, though I personally would see VS, SG and SRT rotating 1,2 and 3 positions according to team needs. Then we can have Dravid and Yuvraj at 5 and 6 who played so beautifully at those positions in WC. Dravid of 02-03 was a vital cog in the Indian wheel. Off late, he has been a little bit subdued which takes me back to his old ODI years. Dravid will be at his best in ODI, when he keeps on rotating strike, giving yuvrajs and dhonis the chance to expode from other end. Also, he can provide stability if the top order fails occasionally.
2. Issue of supersubs- I think SG could have been more astute today. He had Karthik today as supersub. Now, what was the point of wasting one player by taking a frontline bowler. An allrounder could have been a better bet or even a batsman-part timer. In fact, he could have got 4-5 overs from karthik by exhausting one of three seamers early when they were going for plenty. Somehow SG does not seem to show and confidence in Karthik who has bowled brilliantly sometimes.
Whoever has formulated this supersub rule probably was in too much of a hurry. The rule just gives so much favor to the team winning toss. Would it not be better if we had 12 players selected before the toss and then have playing 11 from them after the toss (and not before it)?
3. Agarkar has been so much maligned but he seems to come up with some good performances every time. I think he is one person who should be on GC's top priority list. GC must mould him in a utility cricketer given his outstanding fielding skills. Two of his problems are: inconsistency and not supporting his bowler mates adeqately (for example, releasing pressure often after new ball bowlers did their job). There has to be someone who can sort it out.
4.And please somebody tell Saurav that he did not make 10k runs with hook and pull shots...Looks like his ego has completely done him..Even when he was regaining his strengths he looked up to his weaknesses:).. Wonder what happens if Bond was there..He just lost a golden opportunity today I guess and we may see implications after the finals:).


  • It will be interesting to see who gets dropped when SRT comes back. Based on performance JP Yadav doesn't deserve it and we need 4 specialist bowlers.

    By Blogger Vikas, at 18:59  

  • Ravi, welcome mate. On SG, atleast in ODIs leaving those balls alone would also not be an option, since that means virtually handing the opposition the license to bowl dot balls (remember not all short balls are bouncers, hence don't always fall in the over limitations). But he has to find a way to play it. Either play them for singles or, as he is trying to do, take the initiative and score big runs of those balls. That would discourage bowlers for that match atleast.

    By Blogger worma, at 19:00  

  • Worma: problem is that he tries non-percentage shots everytime..only if he could regain the wisdom to play attacking shots on his strengths...steve waugh never used to pull..saurav used to score on the off and he can't get perfect on short deliveries now..As you said, he should take singles off these bowls and wait for some decent score before opening his arms for these shots..

    By Blogger Ravi Agrawal, at 19:08  

  • ravi...waugh did play some of those shots in the ODIs..and anyway his role in the team was different, so it didn't demand him to have an attacking shot to all the lines. And btw, if you have to plan an attacking shot to the shot pitched on-side stuff...then the percentage shot is pull and hook...its only his exection of those which has been awry
    btw when steve played (and also when saurav made many of those 10k runs) there were no bouncers allowed, neither were the weaknesses of batsmen so well researched and exploited by bowlers all around the world.

    Ganguly, during his peak days in ODI cricket, has always played the pull shot when its there to be hit. He just played it differently from others (the complete body swivel instead of just the upper half). In his role as an opener, there is no way he can escape playing it.

    By Blogger worma, at 19:24  

  • I would say drop the spinner when SRT comes back. Or play the spinner as supersub. SRT can be easily used as spinner. He wouldnt worse than Bhajji/Kumble. In recent series he has shown better control over spin.

    By Blogger Vick, at 19:25  

  • but i agree with u, he should bide his time. As i said earlier, there are two equally good approaches to it, and he just seems to be trying one of them(to score and make the bowler change line of attack).

    By Blogger worma, at 19:26  

  • yeah if they continue to use bhajji in this mode...no point in having the specialist bowler...heck even JP is doing same stuff(doesnt matter whether you save runs bowling spin or seam or dibbly-dobbly)...so move him to bhajji's position and get another specialist bowler ;-)

    By Blogger worma, at 19:31  

  • Ravi,,
    dono but why u people can not come over SG and AA?
    AA's problems and solutions are written on screen since years so whats new?? Same for Ganguly, if u start evaluating all those shots then you will find similarity in all players.Tommorow sehwag will got out slashing first ball and we the suggetions, right??

    About kartik's use reg this match i dont think we should completely blame captain, it was like ifs and buts and i dont think there was any such critical need to do that.

    Win is win and there are ways to look at it.For me last 3-4 matches were showing few possibilities that this team can go far, and i guess this win will pump at extent and i dont think they will be worried much about Shane bond.
    And yeah.. i never likes when some one mention opposite team was minus him and him.No captain plays to lose knowing without them we will ose.

    By Blogger MAHER, at 19:39  

  • Worma: I agree that SG has to play these shots in ODIs but my point was that for some time, until he regains his touch completely, he could do away with those.
    After all nothing is better than staying at the wicket. But yes, you are right that in ODIs you can not escape the short deliveries completely.

    Maher: Yeah, I think we should not be making headlines with individuals as often as we do especially with SG and AA. But, it was largely in the context of today's game. Especially these two guys who have got so much to give, disappoint so often, you have to raise a question or two.

    Changing the subject, what do you think of Fleming's captaincy. Bond is a factor and its really difficult to understand why he dropped him. And in the last 5 overs, when it could have been close, he chose a Patel and an Adams..staggering to me.

    By Blogger Ravi Agrawal, at 19:50  

  • Not sure if Ganguly is working on ironing it out during the nets, by asking bowlers to bombard him with short pitched ones, directed at either his rib or face. Any news on that from the knowledgable cricket reporters? This has been going on for 2 years now!

    By Blogger whoami, at 20:09  

  • Yesterday's win will have some significance, only if india wins the final. ganguly getting out the same way match after match is an embarrassment. why doesn't greg chappell say something to him or ganguly thinks himself to be too big? if he continues getting out the same way it wont be long before he gets out of the Indian team.

    By Blogger Dennis, at 01:11  

  • Does anyone who saw the game tell us about the spat Pathan seemed to have had with Agarkar?? See http://www.cricketnext.com/

    Find it hard to believe as both a generally considered to be quite laid back

    By Blogger Akshay, at 05:15  

  • akshay I do recall there was some talk between them..but it didn't look like an argument to me. The commentators did pick it up..but nothing consequential. I guess it could have started when Pathan dropped a catch off Agarkar's bowling.

    And btw, Agarkar later took a catch off Pathan's bowling :-)

    By Blogger worma, at 05:50  

  • Each WIN or LOSS cannot be seen in isolation, we the fans, the media and the non existing BCCI are the culprits in this regard.

    Although Fans cannot contribute directly to TEAM Building activities, maturity is desired on our part to accept the fact of our rankings, as Chappel said the rankings dont lie, hence each victory is only a step in the right direction and each loss is again a step back.

    When winning becomes a habit only then can we start to think about reigniting our passion for the Team till then we fans should also keep our expectations bottled up as ultimately we pay for the show and suffer the defeats.

    As for Super Sub the rule needs to be modified, the practice should be both teams name a side of 14 for the match before toss the starting 11 to be declared and then based on match situation the captain can make choice of Super Sub being anyone of the remaining 3.

    For all his faults in the bowling department Agarkar is the best outfielder we have to be used in the deep, his batting though no gr8 shakes can be usefual atleast unlike Ganguly if Agarkar as batsman clicks he scores very fast if he fails he wont waste deliveries and will be out within the first few balls he faces. Even in bowling apart from Kumble in his prime and Srinath occassionally I cannot think of any other Indian bowler who has ever had a strikingly better Economy Rate, wonder boy Pathan has been sorted out all his dreams of being the next Akram will not come true as he has stopped learning and his Incredible Hulk act has killed his free flowing Action, Zaheer and Nehra (except for last 10-15 games in Nehra case) have been equally jekyll & hyde sorts as Agarkar.

    By Blogger Bedoon_Esam, at 07:39  

  • Prem: Honestly speaking. Why do you need Saurav? How long you guys are going to keep someone on Past glory. Cricket is totally different when Saurav scoren runs to today. Saurav is not getting any younger and his reflexes are getting slower. He will be 35 during 2007 WC.

    Lastly, Saurav is the worst fielder in the team and he has zero ability to rotate strikes or convert ones to twos. Teams are clearly exposing his leg-side weaknesses. His presence will only hurt our team. Just wait and watch.

    By Blogger G285, at 07:56  

  • Sometimes it feels as if this Blog is to Flog G.

    Best wishes to you Ravi.

    By Blogger CrickTip, at 09:57  

  • The problem is not only that We discuss SG too much, but look at the way even a short comment on him becomes a topic of sharp discussion. If you look at my blog, I had some good points on the batting order and supersubs on which I wanted more discussion. I left only a short note for Ganguly, only because it was so relevant for that particular game. Still, it was only a SHORT END note..We could have better discussion on other points.

    And anyways, I am not a SG basher by anymeans. In fact, to me his contribution to Indian cricket has been as imp as from SRT or RD (which has been widely unacknwoledged).

    By Blogger Ravi Agrawal, at 11:21  

  • can anyone tellme if the rules allo wthe captain to be supersub? SG cu dtehn be the perfect fit. india can actually play afull side in every game and still have a bits and still have SG on the fieldfor his captaincy. what say?

    By Blogger suresh bala, at 12:40  

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