Sight Screen: Ind-SA 4th Match thread

Friday, November 25, 2005

Ind-SA 4th Match thread

Here's the open thread for the match...I won't be around for a while atleast, though.

172 Comments:

Which website are people using to watch the match in the US? I have found willow.tv and cricketon.tv. Are there others that people have found that are good and inexpensive?

By Sridhar, at 02:26
Here in order of batting....
SRT
VS
MK
RD
YS
GG(Super Sub)
MSD
IP
AA
HS
RP Singh
Murali

Mohd Kaif pushed up to get batting practice...

By RR, at 02:36
hey k-slice, dija see SG bat today?

By i, at 02:38
it seems SG got big one, but then RGavaskar too got a 50, so I don't know the worth of the bowling.

By i, at 02:42
Lara is violating Lee at Adelaide.

By i, at 02:43
love how Lara is so positive on every ball once he's set. been waiting for this since the superseries.

By Anonymous, at 02:44
You mean Audrey Hepburn's chest don't you? Kat Hepburn had a nice ass.

By i, at 02:46
munaf patel is supposed to be good. Got VVS out twice in the Duleep Trophy. Don't know about the pitch, or the other bowlers. But Ganguly got 5 wickets, so the pitch can't be that flat.

By Anonymous, at 02:46
maitch kab shuru hoga?

By i, at 02:48
seewag, everything including marriages can be fixed.

By i, at 02:52
munaf patel & bahatule have no reason to lay down for Ganguly, and are raring to go in Ranji trophy.

By Anonymous, at 02:52
what a pull shot!

By Anonymous, at 02:53
Also K-Slice, Audrey H. and Kat H. were different people. Kat H., had a lovely chest, with wonderful appendages.

By i, at 02:53
k-slice, I too am a huge movie buff. Something to keep me occupied with on Sat. nights. Everyone else is screwing around. Shit, I hate the west :-)

By i, at 03:01
yeah k-slice, all the Maharashtra tail-enders scored runs, so it must be a good pitch. The Maharashtra top order collapsed for some reason. Good for Ganguly.

By Anonymous, at 03:01
Dileep Premachandran is an ass.

By i, at 03:06
Lara scores a double !! Cool!! This guy is mazing!!

By RR, at 03:07
G2R, DP is an ass because he tries to hide his biases behind language, and he is not even that good a writer.

Biases are fine, heck everyone has them, but it is nice to be upfront about them rather than make subtle suggestion relying on one's slightly better grasp of a foreing tongue than one's readers.

On the other hand I must say the other extreme of being upfront about one's biases while murdering a perfectly good language (like our friend TC) is not a very appetizing thought either.

What can I say, devil and the deep sea.

Rahul Bhatta. is good.

By i, at 03:11
i...yr profile does not show cricket as one of yr interests?? How come yr are here??Anyways...nice to have u back...U seem to have sobered down from the days of ours discussions on BOOST :D

By RR, at 03:17
G2R the problem with DP's sarcasm is that it is forced. I always get the feeling of a man who is trying much too hard to write. Anyway, sarcasm is much to juvenile a medium of communication for me now - age is passing me by.

By i, at 03:18
Inside sources say that RD was upset because, GC was doing all the talking and mentioning regularly that he had RD clued into his thoughts...and RD's expressions were like Oh! Is that so? :D

By RR, at 03:20
lara on song is the best sight in world cricket. His one handedsweep of Warne was a treat. Hope he gets the 13 runs tomorrow and becomes the highest run scorer in Test Cricket...

By Saurabh Wahi, at 03:20
wow. 91 comments already and the match is more than half an hour away

By Gaurav, at 03:20
Ravi, I am not interested in cricket per se. People "interested" in cricket and "knowledgeable" about matters cricket are much more interesting. Also I have not particularly sobered down, not that I was ever inebriated. We can always discuss Boost.

By i, at 03:20
saurabh
absolutely. probably the second legend in the game after the don ?? or is that gilchrist now ?

By Gaurav, at 03:21
Ravi - and because behind every successful man there is a woman, guess RD's wife better watch out in case GC wants to clue her in too.

By i, at 03:22
i....like that...Good attitude...no noticeable bias...no foul language....subtle humor...things that make a good blogger,i presume

By RR, at 03:23
tc,
toss will be really interetsting. probably best to lose it

By Gaurav, at 03:23
i....no personal stuff...wives,girl friends,paramours...not acceptable,pls

By RR, at 03:24
jobless
also at his best is lara is a sight to behold much more than sachin. his batting is like a wildly flowing river, sachin even at his best seems a little constrained

By Gaurav, at 03:25
K-Slice, Sure but to me LPSahi and DP are about on the same level. The difference being one wields a subtler pen, and hence gets a wider following. Like commies vs righteous bigots - both are idiots, but commies get much more newsprint because they can twist the language to appear balanced, nuanced, intelligent and knowledgeable. The frauds.

By i, at 03:25
k-slice...U missed it....It is my personal take..Just a spin to the story....having fun while it lasts...so long it does not hurt anyone personally

By RR, at 03:25
k...thanks for yr Ranji update on SG...U fit in well..in the absence of any worthwhile writeup in Cricinfo.Any chances of u hopping into the stadium again ? :)

By RR, at 03:27
ravi - learn to live with a semi-dirty innuendo. You are all grown up now.

I can clearly imagine GC making that "team is clued in with ME" statement.

By i, at 03:28
yacrik if we r gonna play only 4 bowlers it comes down to a choice betn SG, yuvi and kaif and id pick SG on current form. if we play 5 bowlers SG does not fit in

By Gaurav, at 03:28
k
whats the latest on the game man ? any chance maharashtra can still come out on top ?

krish
who cares abt what happens to west indies ? all i want is to see lara in full flow

By Gaurav, at 03:29
Fake pp...habit has only on p..Prem Panicker has two

By RR, at 03:30
Oops...One b :(

By RR, at 03:30
smith won the toss and will field. not such a bad thing i guess

By Gaurav, at 03:32
Prem,

Lara's double already has some of my colleagues great things abt him etc...(I think we all know that !!)

Your point abt him scoring in dead rubbers is quite interesting..

In anycase, his swansong in Australia will be remembered well !!

By Girish, at 03:32
South Africa has won the toss and decided to bowl first
Smith wins the toss and decides to bowl first

By ரிஷி, at 03:32
well
lara scores 200
inzy scores 2 100s
gangu scores 150
it is abt time sachin also scored i think

By Gaurav, at 03:33
K...SG gone for 159 ...and Bengal down to 375 /9...Munaf gets 3 wkts

By RR, at 03:34
Who's opening the india batting - SRT and Veeru or is it Gambhir ??

Who's the super sub ?

By Girish, at 03:34
K-Slice, You have hit the nail on its head. That is exactly what DP is, and hence, an ass in my book.

By i, at 03:35
wow
did we keep the supersub again for losing the toss ? becoz karthik is the ss today and gg is playing. this idea o RD-GC seems really good !!

By Gaurav, at 03:35
tc
same team except gambhir plays karthik is supersub

By Gaurav, at 03:36
hemal
maybe lets see how it goes

By Gaurav, at 03:36
Prem,

I won't say 4th Umpire is a high standard program. It's pretty ok with Charu hosting it along with Anjum Chopra (From the women's team) along with Srikanth and Jimmry/Atul Wassan !!

Sometimes, Srikanth does a Sidhu by not letting others talk and forcing others to agree his views...

But yes, in the absence of any other coverage, it's ok..Even better if you can watch it in mute ;)

By Girish, at 03:37
lets hope we do not try for something too high. we shud aim for 280 say

By Gaurav, at 03:38
Murali Kartik is the supersub for India, Gambhir is in the playing eleven, Robin Peterson is the supersub for South Africa.

By ரிஷி, at 03:38
BTW K-Slice LPSahi is hardly subtle enough to be called a commie. I would put him down as a righteous bigot.

By i, at 03:38
Prem panicker, don't bother wasting your time here dude !!

By Girish, at 03:39
Or is it the real prem ??

By Girish, at 03:40
That chap doing the commentary on cricinfo is always "big-helloing". Why this discrimination against smaller, lesser hellos. Are they not hellos? If you don't acknowledge them, do they not bleed?

By i, at 03:40
k
is it really a greentop ? if so probably it is made by the CAB in retaliation for nagpur and the dropping of sourav ? anyway lets hope our players show the skill to negotiate it. i know they can

By Gaurav, at 03:42
Real Prem,

Your double threw me off guard and hence my post abt "wasting time" !!.. Wasn't intended...

Fake Prem, pls get off the blog !!

By Girish, at 03:42
Squarecut, I agree on the class of people who come to this blog. Just look at you. Or me.

By i, at 03:42
strange munaf patel, after bowling 25 overs without a wicket, bowled Ganguly and cleaned up the tail in a matter of minutes. Bengal got the first-innings lead, but.

By Anonymous, at 03:43
K-Slice, if that is why the lesser hellos are discounted, most of India would.

Wait, most of India is discounted, and it doesn't even care. It is too busy fighting against/for SG.

By i, at 03:44
did u guys read in the morning papers that smith says it will be like playing at home becoz he thinks the crowd will support SA as SG is not there ? what a pathetic statement and what a crying shame if it is true

By Gaurav, at 03:45
GK, if you think that is true, I cry for you. Or, rather, I cries for you.

By i, at 03:46
We should take a poll right here and now. All who think that was the real Prem, please fart.

By i, at 03:48
interesting contest between railways and karnataka as well.

By Anonymous, at 03:49
goddamn. mumbai bowler Powar has so far taken all 4 Delhi wickets. In the Challengers I don't think he looked anything special, but match after match he's just a wicket taking machine.

By Anonymous, at 03:52
grassy pitch eh? cool smith won't be able to blame this loss on the pitch!

By Neelesh, at 03:55
or the toss

By Neelesh, at 03:55
why is the match not starting ?

By Gaurav, at 03:56
sgstreams started for me

By Anonymous, at 03:58
can someone plz post the scores after say every over ?

By Gaurav, at 03:59
ntini injured. not playing.

By Anonymous, at 03:59
omg where the hell is srt...why is pathan opening???????????

By Neelesh, at 04:00
ravi k pathan opening with ?

By Gaurav, at 04:00
on a grassy pitch???????

By Neelesh, at 04:00
Rahul_fan, you are a complete ass.

By i, at 04:01
AH : http://home.uchicago.edu/~shelata/audrey_hepburn33.jpg

KH: http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/5452/748/1600/katherine%20hepburn.jpg

Both are beauties in their own right!

By Kall Ramanathan, at 04:03
pathan bowled as expected!!!!!

By Neelesh, at 04:03
GC surprised me here.

By Pankaj Tripathi, at 04:03
srt in now

By Neelesh, at 04:04
sheesh...what a waste...

By Neelesh, at 04:04
maybe the Kolkatans put lead paint chips in Chappell's soy milk?

By Anonymous, at 04:04
move flops badly

By Gaurav, at 04:05
beanbag click on events & enter "kolkata"

By Anonymous, at 04:06
I think IP as opener was a good move...he has the capability to play solid...and has played pace bowling pretty well..ofcourse with hindsight it looks stupid....but I can understand the thinking behind it, if the actual move was to have SRT and VS come when Pollack is finished his spell. Better than having Dhoni open (the only other option)

By worma, at 04:06
who is in at 3 ?

By Gaurav, at 04:07
Outrageous movement for NEL

By Neelesh, at 04:08
tendulkar at 3 is a good move ? not so sure.

devatha
i removed the photo. why ?

By Gaurav, at 04:10
who thinks that the bongs prepared a green track...to make india look bad without gangs. :)

By Jerry Kalarickal, at 04:10
GC is senile....carrying his experimentations too far...and why is RD nodding his head for everything that GC suggests...needs to stand up and have his way...GC seems to have a fixation on bringing in as many Left handers as possible into the top 3 slots...Know why??

By RR, at 04:11
gk: as I said...now that first wkt goes early...it seems SRT at 3 is bad..since he's anyway virtually opening...but the idea behind it was right.

By worma, at 04:11
exactly.. if Pathan had stayed for 5 overs all these guys would have praised GC and RD like anything..

Not all moves will succeed everyday.. please lets move ahead..

By Sameer, at 04:11
Nel monitors his own heart rate while bowling to get the optimum rate going!

By Neelesh, at 04:11
it is sgstream.com , not sgstreams.com

enter "kolkata" in this text box.

By Anonymous, at 04:13
hell cricbuzz is not updating. someone plz post scores frequently

By Gaurav, at 04:13
SRT standing a whole 18 cm out of the crease to negate the seam

By Neelesh, at 04:14
ravi: as I said, IP looks to have the technique to play well on greentrack. NOt bad move....since it was actually the side-product of the actual move (to have SRT bat down)

By worma, at 04:15
3.1 overs 12 for 1

By Sameer, at 04:16
devatha
dont bother. im not so important that ppl will start faking me

By Gaurav, at 04:16
well, the idea was Pathan good at lofted shots, so put him in early. I don't agree with it, Pathan's batting seems more like a dance on a volcano to me, not particularly solid. Credit to him for pulling it off so far, but I consider him a useful lower-order bat or pinch-hitter, not an opener.

By Anonymous, at 04:17
NEl being agrro with sachin

By Neelesh, at 04:18
Yeda...the mind plays dirty games...Erase that thought and think that the ppl criticizing are looking at Indian cricket's betterment and u will feel better :D

By RR, at 04:18
yes.. ppl sending IP cud have been an idea to disrput SAs plans by hitting a few over the top knowing that if he flopped there was plenty of backup and fallback plans available

By Gaurav, at 04:19
raghu: IMO IP is never sent as a 'pinch-hitter' in any position...he's being rightly treated as a regular batsman. But you're right that he was to see off the opening spell

By worma, at 04:19
ravi, i am not sure why you are so upset with the ip move. it was an experiment worth trying. he plays with a straight bat and well worth a try and i hope it is something they try again.

By Jerry Kalarickal, at 04:20
Is anyone listening to SIFY audio? I think they are swiched to the wrong channel?

By Amit, at 04:20
SRT gone :(

By Sameer, at 04:21
srt gone as well

By Neelesh, at 04:21
sachin gone

By sreeram, at 04:21
wow. that's disappointing.

By Anonymous, at 04:21
devatha
appreciate ur devotion and hero-worship

By Gaurav, at 04:22
looks like we should have sent agarkar, bhajji, rp before sachin...everyone in our top order needs protection...

By Jerry Kalarickal, at 04:22
just an observation, SRT has been playing very cautiously lately in the opening, looking to get set. I think it might be a mistake, might be playing too timidly and psyching himself out.

By Anonymous, at 04:23
Prem...if you're tuned in here....I ask the last match time question again....what do you think about SRT's approach? Was SL series opener just an aberration? Although today it was probably too short an innings to judge...but still??

By worma, at 04:24
this is what the opening combo should be..sehwag and gg

By Neelesh, at 04:24
5.1 overs 20/2

By Sameer, at 04:25
SRT gone for 2 again didnt he score 2 in hyd and bangalore as well ??

well i thot SRT at 3 wasnt quite right. anyway devatha u will have to wait for another day

whos next ?

By Gaurav, at 04:25
raghu, i agree with you about the pitch...i am sure that was in the mind of the pitch preparer...

By Jerry Kalarickal, at 04:25
SRT very tentative, the way he prodded at the ball. There was very little movement off the pitch, not like it was a great ball or anything.

By Anonymous, at 04:27
how long before someone say...
time to drop sachin. there, i have said it.

By Jerry Kalarickal, at 04:27
sehwag trying to play forcing shots of every delivery..look out for the one that seams

By Neelesh, at 04:29
agree, raghu

By Anonymous, at 04:29
there has now got to be some concern abt SRTs form !! otherwise im sorry we are pretty much having double standards !!

By Gaurav, at 04:30
HYDERABAD all over again!!

By Neelesh, at 04:31
GG gone too

By Sameer, at 04:31
ravi, u still talking about ip... :) this is not the world cup final. what we need to be talking about is the what was behind the genius who picked a green top for a day night match in india.

By Jerry Kalarickal, at 04:32
good ball from Pollock, regulation edge, very low catch to 2nd slip, bye-bye Gambhir.

Have to say I love Gambhir's attitude. just a question if his technique and talent can match it.

And not to dump on Tendulkar, but his bowling has been subpar lately too.

By Anonymous, at 04:35
really is the pitch that bad ?

By Gaurav, at 04:37
Lara double ton and Tendlya whoosh!

By caconifox, at 04:37
Nel clapping like a monkey in sehwags face....

By Neelesh, at 04:38
glorius, i finally agree with you...time to give tendu a break.

By Jerry Kalarickal, at 04:38
toss, green top.. whatever. No excuses for India. We have to win in all conditions, against any opposition. This is yet another true test today

By RandomThoughts, at 04:38
neel, nel's pretty entertaining...and just the tonic our batsmen need to get them determined.

By Jerry Kalarickal, at 04:39
rahul_fan
regardless, we shud be able to adjust our game to suit the wicket. it wasnt an excuse in nagpur and cant be one here

By Gaurav, at 04:40
Shastri prasing the groundsmen calling him 'talented' for preparing this pitch (no sarcasm)

By Neelesh, at 04:41
Sahir, I still believe this is good for the team in preparing for WC 2007. They have endless amounts of practice playing on traditional Indian wickets. What they *need* is more experience playing & competing in conditions like these, against good 140 km bowlers. Teaches them that life is stern and earnest, what? ;)

By Anonymous, at 04:42
Ravi Shastri: "Ganguly is not playing and we have a green-top. If they do it for the Bengal team then they will produce good cricketers"

He seemed very upset that his boy Sachin got out cheaply :-)

By caconifox, at 04:42
in shastri's defence, he also pointed out ganguly isn't playing today...implying that there is a connection between the green top and the gang's absence.

By Jerry Kalarickal, at 04:43
seems like sehwag wants his opening spot back

By Neelesh, at 04:43
idli vade
maybe u r rite but he does not have a better defense than rahul or sachin. btw veeru on fire !!

By Gaurav, at 04:45
its hall bowling guys

By Neelesh, at 04:45
Smith has not taken the PP

By caconifox, at 04:46
now powerplay taken...interesting

By Neelesh, at 04:47
waiting for sehwag to get out he is

By Neelesh, at 04:47
sahir
i wudnt mind seeing a green track now and then provided it does not reduce winning the toss to winning the match. whats wrong with a closely fought 220 game ???

By Gaurav, at 04:48
greentops mean different things in New Zealand. You can hardly see the grass, Sahir. It's just got a light coating, the pitch is not that bad.

It's like what Prem said. If you do the traditional Indian thing and try to shave off all the grass, the ball moves like hell for the first 10 overs and then the pitch becomes completely placid. This should be a bit more conistent

By Anonymous, at 04:49
idli, hmmm. i guess by that logic most of us should keep quiet about bunnies against pace.

By Jerry Kalarickal, at 04:50
pp taken smith just forgot to take it earlier

By Neelesh, at 04:51
49-3 after 11.1

By Anonymous, at 04:52
PP taken and sehwag has gone

By caconifox, at 04:52
gone...

By Jerry Kalarickal, at 04:52
shewag chases an extremely wide delivery...gets a nick...dravid and the croud stunned

By Neelesh, at 04:53
w

By Neelesh, at 04:53
that was a completely bullshit shot from sehwag

By Jerry Kalarickal, at 04:53
yuvi time

By Neelesh, at 04:54
idli, do u secretly nurture a crush on shastri. u seem obsessed. :)

By Jerry Kalarickal, at 04:54
So many warped minds...Green top and so India is not performing...Bullshit...It is not a greentop by any standards.It is not like the ball is whizzing past one's nose or ears. Accept that it is one of those days when the initial few overs ahve not been good.Was the Blore pitch of international standard...If that was acceptable, let's accept this too..and bringing in SG for every blip in performance is a bit too much.If he is around, there is a proble...if he is not there is a problem...Why don 't u guys petition the Govt of India and have him deported...if that is a satisfactory solution...Grow up and accept that SA are a different class altogether

By RR, at 04:57
idli, may i point out that shastri is the commentator and you don't even have to be a cricket player to be a commentator. next you will blame bhogle for not having faced alan donald.

By Jerry Kalarickal, at 04:58
49-4 after 11.2. Sehwag gone. Ball starts wide of off, swings further away, fullish. Sehwag drives, edges to slip.

Look, it's not like our batters are losing their wickets for no reason. They're not trying to get beind the line of the ball. "Stand and deliver" sounds good when it goes for 4, not so good when it edges to slips.

And it's important that our batsmen learn about their weaknesses now, when they can still do something about them. If not Pollock, Ntini, Nel Who's going to teach them, Ranadeb Bose?

By Anonymous, at 04:58
ravi1010, great idea about sg deportation...but i think many of us here will be happy only if west bengal is deported ! :)

By Jerry Kalarickal, at 04:59
wow this is good practice for test matches coming up!

By Neelesh, at 05:01
flute, all in good spirit.
but i suspect we won't see a bangalore pitch in south africa or in australia. i don't see why we need to see a wanderers pitch in calcutta.

By Jerry Kalarickal, at 05:02
Disgusting Parochialism
Some excerpts on the odi today:

Makes me disgusted at the parochialism prevalent in India. The Calcutta board/curator want India to lose because the non performing asset of the Indian team for last few years (ganguly) has not been picked.
These people are traitors who put the interests of nation below petty political interests.

This can happen only in INdia. Proves that even today we have several 'Mir Jafar's and 'Jaichand's (who betrayed Prithviraj by supporting the enemy Ghor).

No wonder Indians were ruled by foreigners for almost 1000 years. With petty politicking and parochial interests, internal bickering will ensure the foreigners win.

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Calcutta odi:
There is a lot more grass on the wicket than we expected. It looks like a home match for us," South African skipper Graeme Smith said.

Rahul Dravid sounded sarcastic when he said: "I told the groundsman whatever wicket he gives us, we will play on it."

"All wickets are different and this one’s even different from the ones I’ve played on in Kolkata," the Indian captain said

Some Indian players were spotted chatting with Mr Mukherjee, who made gestures to indicate that he had not much of a role in the preparation of the pitch. Dravid too made his displeasure known to Mr Mukherjee going by his actions. East Zone selector Pranab Roy, who pitched in for Ganguly at the selection committee meeting on Wednesday, was also seen speaking to Mr Mukherjee at the strip
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By Kiran R, at 05:04
it's not a Wanderers pitch. just Eden gardens with a bit of grass.

By Anonymous, at 05:04
This blog is going nowhere.I visit this to find interesting people and interesting discussions.But, here we have people calling each other names,floating conspiracy theories, questioning parentage...the works...It is getting to be more like a chatroom for juveniles...I am out of this...Will be back if oldtimers like Worma,Toney,k-slice and the like are in..Bye for now...And 'i'...hope to catch up sometime

By RR, at 05:07
if greentop is the problem...this was bound to happen once the overseas started..better a wake up call now

By Neelesh, at 05:07
ok fine. looks like deporting all of bengal is a controversial idea...i will table that for the next few years. how about banning nasal toned commentators from cricket (shastri and sivaramakrishnan)...it is almost like hearing chalk screeches on blackboards.

By Jerry Kalarickal, at 05:07
what i am troubled by is not that people get personal or people get divisive but that we indians are so touchy about it. we should have a sense of humor about it all...after all, everyone know no one is going to deport bengal or kerala or any other country. we don't even give kashmiris a choice in the matter...so we might as well joke about it all. we don't have to get teary eyed about it.

By Jerry Kalarickal, at 05:11
getting boring...better get out and start black friday shopping..the local best buy already garnering about forty people in line..

By Neelesh, at 05:12
dravid 4 off 23 balls.. 1 scoring shot.

If dravid and kaif hit half centuries in a match.. We r bound to loose

By ioiio, at 05:13
new thread on guyz

By ioiio, at 05:15
sahir, IIRC, Arun Lal said he had never seen Eden Gardens with grass, not *more* grass. I'm looking at the pitch, it just doesn't seem that bad. Some lateral movement, & more importantly bounce and carry, but not freakish or anything.

By Anonymous, at 05:15
jd
im not against SRT being dropped. but imagine if dropping SG gave us a greentop in kolkata, what will dropping SRT give us in mumbai ?

By Gaurav, at 05:20

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