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Thursday, November 24, 2005

Too close to call yet(-worma)

It does looks like Pakistan have managed to scramble to safety this morning, what with even Shoaib Akhtar playing a patient game!

A 250 run lead, more than half the session gone, and Inzy still standing...uhh...broad :-)

What do you think? I see draw...but then this is England, and I've seen too much drama this summer.

Open thread...sort of...going to have a busy day today so no posting for a while...chat away..

356 Comments:

  • This has been a see-saw battle all the way. But now it seems to be heading for a draw.
    With about 70 overs remaning (but will have to count only 60 if bad light at end of the day is taken into consideration) and Pak still with 2 wickets in hand, draw is very likely.
    The pitch is also still good for batting.

    By Blogger siddhu, at 01:08  

  • I think Inzi could do a far better job of shepherding the tail. In his stand with Akthar, the latter faced 60 balls out of a total of 88, with Inzi taking singles off the very first ball of Flintoff's & Harmison's overs. Similar story with Sami, where Inzi has faced just 5 balls out of 31 in the partnership so far.

    I feel that a player with Inzi's experience should help shield the tail better until they grow in confidence. The partnerships could be even larger, especially given Shoaib's sudden lack of showmanship. This is especially so, since the strike rates for Inzi & the tail are vastly different.

    By Blogger Jeetu, at 01:09  

  • Sami gone with the lead at 260. So the not a big chase...I think there is enough time for the English to get there. But will they take a risk?

    By Blogger Jiet, at 01:13  

  • Aside - how many of you are following the Ranji games? Wasim Jaffer is all set for a triple and is playing probably the innings that will get him back into the national reckoning. It is sad that such a player is kept out of the side while less deserving players are selected to play for the side and given a long rope. Jaffer did well in the limited opportunities he got at the highest level.

    Another interesting point is Kumble's inability to pick wickets despite a longish spell against the Railways.

    Ganguly picks 5 wickets but Maharashtra still scores a credible 350 against Bengal.

    By Blogger vshan, at 01:23  

  • I reckon Pakistan is safe now; draw on the cards. Really only a small opportunity for victory if England decide to promote Flintoff and he can score a quick century. I don't really rate Pakistan's chances of victoyry since as soon as a batsman decides to defend on this slow wicket, it becomes very difficult to dislodge him.

    By Blogger Sahir, at 01:27  

  • Yeah....some interesting performances. Munaf Patel hits 74.

    Jaffer is a good player and this will put in the reckoning for another opportunity which would be well deserved

    By Blogger Jiet, at 01:27  

  • Jaffer out for 267

    By Blogger Sahir, at 01:30  

  • Inzi-- what a player!

    By Blogger Sahir, at 01:31  

  • Inzi hits a beautiful drive down the ground

    By Blogger Jiet, at 01:31  

  • Can he get a century in both innings of a Test? How often has this been done, and by who? Anybody know?

    By Blogger Sahir, at 01:32  

  • done often enough for nobody to be able to rattle of the list

    By Blogger Jiet, at 01:33  

  • wow i wish worma saw that bit of keeping by geraint jones

    By Blogger Jiet, at 01:35  

  • Contemporary cricketers with a hundred in each innings

    Ponting, Hayden, Tresco, Vaughan, Dravid, W.Wasti, Y,Hameed, Lara

    By Blogger Jiet, at 01:38  

  • Inzi century!

    By Blogger Sahir, at 01:42  

  • Pakistan declares

    By Blogger Sahir, at 01:42  

  • declaration....interesting!

    By Blogger Jiet, at 01:43  

  • a sporting declaration. though there was only 1 wicket left, pak could have eaten up more time and ensured a draw.
    way to go Inzi!

    By Blogger siddhu, at 01:46  

  • Take it from me, there is room for pseudo batting allrounders only. Jaffer doesn't stand a chance.

    By Blogger babi, at 01:49  

  • I think it is only a matter of time some of the Indians find themselves doing a Pietersen

    By Blogger Jiet, at 01:51  

  • jiet,
    doing a Pieterson?

    By Blogger Sahir, at 01:55  

  • BOWLED what a delivery!

    By Blogger Sahir, at 01:56  

  • Story goes Pieterson was not happy with the selction process in SA and decided to move to England (granted his mother was English.


    oh what a ball

    By Blogger Jiet, at 01:56  

  • SHOAIB IS BACK!

    By Blogger Sahir, at 01:57  

  • jiet,
    Ah-- that's what you were referring to

    By Blogger Sahir, at 01:57  

  • Okay...that is truly unreal...I think the Indian fans that were cheering for Pakistan can start crying now.

    By Blogger Jiet, at 01:58  

  • Rarely do you see a batsman leave a delivery and it hits middle stump!

    By Blogger Sahir, at 01:59  

  • That one moved of the pitch...that was not a lot of swing but a heck of lot of movement of the pitch.

    By Blogger Jiet, at 01:59  

  • Well, England keeping up with the required run rate :-)

    By Blogger Sahir, at 02:01  

  • I think that is best ball I have seen this year.

    and that appeal was ridiculous

    By Blogger Jiet, at 02:01  

  • 3 hours and 45 minutes of play left at the most before bad light comes into play. About 55 overs.

    By Blogger Sahir, at 02:03  

  • jiet
    LOL abe indians doing a pietersen. u cud be rite tho. and i wudnt blame them - who wud want to strive for a place in a side where jaggu dalmiya has the final word on most matters ?

    By Blogger GK, at 02:19  

  • gk...
    Your right, I was only half joking.

    By Blogger Jiet, at 02:21  

  • oh well it will be an interesting 2 sessions. Other than Bell, all other england batsmen are stroke players. if they defend they will lose. if they play their normal game, we are in for a great day - good 50-odd overs of cricket.

    By Blogger Ravi Krishnan, at 02:31  

  • ppl check out my latest blog post on the discovery of india's brand new all-rounder

    By Blogger GK, at 02:37  

  • BOWLED!

    By Blogger Sahir, at 02:43  

  • Pakistan on fire!

    By Blogger Sahir, at 02:43  

  • hoho strauss gone, england 5-2 !!! Go Pakistan

    By Blogger Ravi Krishnan, at 02:44  

  • BTW,
    Kumble back in action with 3/86 off 40.2 overs. Good to see the 40.2 overs; getting some good match practice in prior to the Test series against SL.

    By Blogger Sahir, at 02:46  

  • Vaughn looking very shaky at the crease-- can Pakistan get him early and really set the cat amongst the pidgeons

    By Blogger Sahir, at 02:47  

  • aarrgh
    im supporting england ... hope we get to see a michael vaughan special today

    By Blogger GK, at 02:47  

  • gk,
    I'm just supporting exciting Test cricket-- Vaughn survives a strong lbw appeal

    By Blogger Sahir, at 02:49  

  • that was plumb!

    By Blogger losing now, at 02:49  

  • should have been given

    By Blogger Jiet, at 02:49  

  • yes sahir, me too. i want england to win so that the series stays alive

    By Blogger GK, at 02:51  

  • no some doubt, might have gone down legside.

    well, i'm supporting Pak because if Eng lose 3-0, india are #2 in test rankings ;) but i'm all for some exciting cricket.

    By Blogger Ravi Krishnan, at 02:52  

  • The way the pakis are bowling, I don't see how we will stay #2 for long

    By Blogger Jiet, at 02:52  

  • Tell you what-- I'm pretty nervous about what will happen to India in Pakistan the way the Pakistani bowlers are going. If they get Sami in form, it could become quite simply a sensational attack with Shoaib, Rana, Kaneria, and Afridi already looking very, very good.

    By Blogger Sahir, at 02:53  

  • anybody, latest ranji scores ? esp the bengal maharshtra game

    By Blogger GK, at 02:54  

  • kaneria and afridi will be ineffective. RD, SRT, VVS and VS in form will take care of the spinners. chances of chuckter breaking down are really high with 1 more test and 5 ODIs to go.

    But I agree, it may really be an exciting series

    By Blogger Ravi Krishnan, at 02:55  

  • gk: bengal 41/2 at lunch.

    By Blogger Mount_Cleverest, at 02:55  

  • if all the above bowlers + umar gul is fully fit and in form.

    By Blogger Ravi Krishnan, at 02:56  

  • ravi: sorry man. that was out!!!

    By Blogger losing now, at 02:56  

  • The Pakis might be bowling well alright, but we cant get too nrevous!

    Poms have managed 400+ scores in two out of three innings thus far..havent they?

    By Blogger Mount_Cleverest, at 02:56  

  • mount, is india's greatest all-rounder at the crease for bengal ?

    By Blogger GK, at 02:57  

  • GONE!!!

    By Blogger losing now, at 02:57  

  • Shoaib get another one!

    By Blogger Sahir, at 02:57  

  • Bell gone, itz over for england

    By Blogger Ravi Krishnan, at 02:57  

  • gk: No..not yet, I think he plans to come at number 5.

    By Blogger Mount_Cleverest, at 02:57  

  • What a sensational performance by Pakistan!

    By Blogger Sahir, at 02:57  

  • Who says test cricekt is not fun. This is exciting stuff

    By Blogger losing now, at 02:58  

  • oh well with Kp and flintoff in, it'll be entertaining for sure either way.

    By Blogger Ravi Krishnan, at 02:58  

  • mount and gk,
    he'll come in at 4 if the ball is nice and old, but if it is still somewhat new like it is now, number 5

    By Blogger Sahir, at 02:59  

  • Pieterson, Fintoff, and Jones-- will they play their natural game?

    By Blogger Sahir, at 02:59  

  • straight away a bouncer to pietersen.. wonderful stuff

    By Blogger losing now, at 02:59  

  • Only ODIs are predictable and boring. Test matches have always been exiciting and fun, at least for me.

    By Blogger Ravi Krishnan, at 03:00  

  • Shoaib delivers a body blow to Pieterson first up!

    By Blogger Sahir, at 03:00  

  • Sahir: How convenient!!

    By Blogger Mount_Cleverest, at 03:00  

  • boy. That ball to Bell looked like a chuck!

    By Blogger losing now, at 03:01  

  • sahir,

    It's true. Ganguly is especially effective batting against the old ball. Not much medium pacer can do against Ganguly if he gets in agianst old ball

    By Blogger Jiet, at 03:01  

  • 10 for 3 in 5 overs.

    The great Ashes winners are losing the series

    By Blogger krishkannan, at 03:02  

  • 3 ducks!

    By Blogger losing now, at 03:02  

  • what else can u expect from chuckter :D

    but deep das gupta is the captain now, he should SG at 4 ;)

    By Blogger Ravi Krishnan, at 03:02  

  • Be fun to see Shoaib with the new ball against Ganguly. The first cannot bowl and the other cannot bat

    By Blogger Jiet, at 03:03  

  • the whiners won the Ashes because of McGrath.....

    By Blogger Ravi Krishnan, at 03:03  

  • losing now,
    They all look like chucks to me-- notice the beautiful 3/4 sleeves

    By Blogger Sahir, at 03:04  

  • England need to counter attack, thats the only way they can stay afloat.

    By Blogger Mount_Cleverest, at 03:04  

  • GOMNE!!!

    By Blogger losing now, at 03:04  

  • hoho, vaughn gone, 20-4 !!!

    By Blogger Ravi Krishnan, at 03:04  

  • Rana gets Vaughn!

    By Blogger Sahir, at 03:04  

  • VAughn LBW Naved

    By Blogger losing now, at 03:05  

  • Weren't the English claiming they were the best Test side in the world?

    By Blogger Sahir, at 03:05  

  • Freddie and KP aganst Chuckter nd Rana !!!

    By Blogger Ravi Krishnan, at 03:06  

  • sahir: Shoib does chuck on the effort ball. BTW, i would put Kaneria in soon for Flintoff/pietersen

    By Blogger losing now, at 03:06  

  • sahir, i guess world = UK (england, ireland, scotland) :D

    By Blogger Ravi Krishnan, at 03:06  

  • 20/4 - Whiners deserve this

    By Blogger krishkannan, at 03:07  

  • Piterson, Flintoff, and Jones aren't exactly the type of batsmen that can bat out time. Will they be in two minds whether to play their natural attacking game or defend?

    By Blogger Sahir, at 03:07  

  • ROFLMGDAO!!!!!!!!!!!!! ENGLAND R THE BEST TEST SIDE IN THE WORLD>>>>> PUKED BY BOTHAM....lol

    By Blogger zacked, at 03:07  

  • sahir: If you win 2-3 series in a row..you get a bit too heady. Did not realise that 1 was a depleted SA side, other depleted WI and of course, the aussie side was a good side (but they were all close tests!). Anyway, playing in Pak and India is a different ball game altogether

    By Blogger losing now, at 03:08  

  • sahir: to be fair the English players really never claimed they were best. Its their commentators and fans and media created

    By Blogger worma, at 03:08  

  • naved is the man

    By Blogger losing now, at 03:09  

  • Probably about 50 overs left in the day before bad light intravenes; will we see any delaying tactics by the batsman such as the physio coming on?

    By Blogger Sahir, at 03:09  

  • Worma: Collingwood did claim a 3-0 series whitewash before the show began.

    The possibility is still alive!!

    By Blogger Mount_Cleverest, at 03:10  

  • gk:
    Mumbai vs. Delhi:
    Mumbai 457/4 (121.5 ov)
    NS Shetty 51*
    OJ Khanvilkar 8*

    Railways vs. Karnataka:
    Railways all out 323 (131.2 ov)

    Maharashtra vs. Bengal:
    Maharashtra all out 350
    Bengal 41/2 (14.3 ov) Lunch time
    Arindam Das 23*
    Sourav Ganguly 0*

    Haryana vs. Uttar Pradesh
    Haryana all out 277
    Uttar Pradesh 86/2 (27.0 ov)
    S Shukla 27*
    R Shamshad 0*


    Gujarat vs. Tamil Nadu
    Gujarat 110/4 (56.0 ov)
    BD Thaker 20*
    MH Parmar 15*

    Punjab vs. Services
    Services all out 147
    Punjab all out 223
    Services 77/2 (18.0 ov)
    MP Reddy 45*
    Yashpal Singh 0*

    Baroda vs. Andhra
    Baroda 13/2 (9.0 ov)
    CC Williams 1*
    JJ Martin 1*

    By Blogger Ranjit Nair, at 03:10  

  • bengal 58/4..commentary section showing that score but full scoreboard not updated. wonder if SG is gone

    By Blogger losing now, at 03:11  

  • Guys see the Bengal score, They have TEAM INDIA'S allrounder to help them

    By Blogger krishkannan, at 03:11  

  • This is the sort of time that in American sports you call a timeout to stop the momentum of the opposing team. If I was England, I would send the physio out there to "treat an injury" just to slow things down a little and let the batsmen calm down. Bottom line is that playing out 50 overs with 6 wickets in hand is still very much possible.

    By Blogger Sahir, at 03:11  

  • I am not sure why we are happy about this. These are not good signs...

    England will only learn from this and be better prepared against India where the bowling is not going to be half as good.

    Besides, Pakistan's bowling looks really good.

    By Blogger Jiet, at 03:11  

  • BENGAL 58/4!!!!!

    By Blogger zacked, at 03:11  

  • anyone know why balaji is not playing in the TN Ranji?

    By Blogger Ravi Krishnan, at 03:12  

  • Gagnuly is still in, 5 not out

    By Blogger Sahir, at 03:12  

  • mount: so did McGrath for Ashes....does that mean Aus are not the best side in the world? Come on dude....have some perspsective....when you ask a player he will say he is looking to win all matches...did any of them say they are the best in the world? (David Graveny did say that. I have been noting who all did indulge ;-)

    By Blogger worma, at 03:12  

  • Bengal 72/4. SG batting at 5 of 16 balls.

    By Blogger Mount_Cleverest, at 03:12  

  • Worma: My statement was simply on your point that England players did not claim to be the best. Colly did sound a bit boisterous..did'nt he?

    By Blogger Mount_Cleverest, at 03:14  

  • McGrath guarantee was perfect. If he was fully fit, might have very well been 5-0 !!!

    By Blogger Ravi Krishnan, at 03:15  

  • worma,
    Botham has repeatedly said England are the best, even during this series

    By Blogger Sahir, at 03:15  

  • wish munaf patel bowls a bouncer to SG n injures him.... so at least we will be playin with 11 players in the first test.... lol... WISHES!!! AAhhhhh

    By Blogger zacked, at 03:15  

  • OMG!!...Englands 24/4!!..Akthar and Rana are tearing them to pieces!..Pietersen and Flintoff batting..

    By Blogger TheChowmeinWarrior, at 03:15  

  • mount: dude thats what I am countering.....they never claimed to be 'best team in the world'....that different from being boisterous or arrogant or whatever....very different. And btw...they are good enough to *hope* to beat Pak 3-0...atleast the flat Pak team of 1 year ago. This is a much improved side.

    By Blogger worma, at 03:16  

  • hehe
    so now i guess the draw is no longer the favored result ? now that freddie and kp are at the crease it is either DO or DIE

    By Blogger GK, at 03:16  

  • ravi: Well if Simon Jones were fit, England may have already clinched the series here

    By Blogger Jiet, at 03:17  

  • I hope SG scores a sparking 100 :D

    By Blogger Ravi Krishnan, at 03:17  

  • start of a good counter attack ?

    By Blogger losing now, at 03:17  

  • Even McGrath was wrong in making that Ashes claim. One can always make statements like 'We have come here to win" and the like..whats the point in making big noise and risk eating the crow!

    By Blogger Mount_Cleverest, at 03:17  

  • sahir: please read carefully what I said...infact what I *responded* to....the English players never claimed to be the best in the world. Many others did. Botham, Graveny, Greig, Lloyd....like I said...I know the list ;-)

    By Blogger worma, at 03:17  

  • i hope u aint cmparing jones to mcgrath!!! or r u,,,, JIET

    By Blogger zacked, at 03:18  

  • zacj=ked.. come on man. wishing someone to be injured. that is sick ..even if you are trying to be funny

    By Blogger losing now, at 03:18  

  • mount: yeah no point in making big noise...they are guilty (or atleast some of them). But not of claiming to be best in the world, right?

    By Blogger worma, at 03:18  

  • jiet, i totally agree. simon jones would have been a key bowler here, especially since england don't have a quality spinner. i mean they don't have a spinner ;)

    By Blogger Ravi Krishnan, at 03:19  

  • ravi k
    SG (whom i will noe refer to as IGA for india's greatest all-rounder) is at the crease ?

    By Blogger GK, at 03:20  

  • zacked,
    My point is teams miss key players and that can hurt them. That is part of the game and it is stupid to claim that they could have made all the difference AFTER the fact.

    By Blogger Jiet, at 03:20  

  • I think over confidence has been England's undoing..as also the fact that they batted second in both the games.

    Would be interesting to note the win/loss percentage of teams batting first/second in the sub-continent.

    By Blogger Mount_Cleverest, at 03:21  

  • Instead of Sami, wouldn't it be a good idea to bring on the leggies to Pieterson and Flintoff? Especially considering the over rate is very important since the play will be called due to bad light. Afridi will be very useful with how quickly he gets through his overs.

    By Blogger Sahir, at 03:21  

  • Zacked

    You might not like Sg, but please do not think to hurt anybody

    By Blogger krishkannan, at 03:22  

  • Sahir: I agree and Afridi knows exactly 'where' to bowl on this pitch..does'nt he?

    By Blogger Mount_Cleverest, at 03:22  

  • Good call SAMI!! That is great stuff. Englishmen better learn from this

    By Blogger losing now, at 03:22  

  • sahir : i agree. i wud bring the leggies ON

    By Blogger losing now, at 03:23  

  • mount
    england have played very well more or less in pak. they have only failed to finish it off. they dominated the first test for 4 days and here they never looked in danger of losing until just NOW

    By Blogger GK, at 03:23  

  • gk, yea bengal 72/4 SG batting 5(16) with his captain ;)

    By Blogger Ravi Krishnan, at 03:24  

  • yipppee anyway this means maharashtra on top. get IGA early and maharashtra will be well on course

    By Blogger GK, at 03:25  

  • sahir: i must say...our selectors finally found a good excuse to get SG back in. Batting allrounder..geez. They really think that the rest of the world is full of stupid people who will drink the kool-aid they serve. The indian fans are not the electorate of the red states , you know!

    By Blogger losing now, at 03:25  

  • gk: Exactly my point, batting second and last in the sub-continent is a big disadvantage. Also, they could never really exert any sort of presuure on pakistan all through this match, something they managed to do exceedingly well against Australia and the lesser sides bfore that.

    Also feel that they came here almost expecting pakistan to bow down and giveup without a fight.

    By Blogger Mount_Cleverest, at 03:25  

  • gk

    This is a good point. I think a lot of teams have problems in the subcontinent when the see the finish line. They relax because their tired or something.

    By Blogger Jiet, at 03:25  

  • gk: that is the key..Tests are like marathons..does not matter if you lead till mile # 25..you gotta be ahead when crossing the line

    By Blogger losing now, at 03:27  

  • Read reports that VB Chandrashekhar and More voted against SG and the other three selectors voted for him y'day.

    Perhaps More came up with the 'allrounder' crap out of frustration!

    By Blogger Mount_Cleverest, at 03:28  

  • losing now,
    Initially CricInfo actually published that Ganguly was selected as a bowling allrounder. When I read that, I decided I was moving to India to display my bowling talents! :)

    By Blogger Sahir, at 03:28  

  • It is very tough to win a series in the sub continent without a quality spinner. I can recall only hussain's grinding out a series win in Pak and SL and SA beating us 2-0 in India with Nicky Boje !!!!!!!!

    By Blogger Ravi Krishnan, at 03:29  

  • true losing. it is just that england have played good solid cricket and even a defeat here wud not change that.

    By Blogger GK, at 03:29  

  • guys .. if these 2 survive for 10 overs. Match is ON. They can score fast

    By Blogger losing now, at 03:29  

  • sahir, u read my take on the whole all-rounder issue didn't you ?

    By Blogger GK, at 03:29  

  • Pieterson really racing away here

    By Blogger Sahir, at 03:30  

  • sahir: LOL

    By Blogger losing now, at 03:30  

  • yeah gk, good stuff

    By Blogger Sahir, at 03:30  

  • that is true, no denying that england have played really well.

    By Blogger Ravi Krishnan, at 03:30  

  • Girl in Burkha with a sign " I like Sami"

    By Blogger Jiet, at 03:32  

  • poor freddie, bowled 56 overs in this test and now he has to save the test match !!!!

    By Blogger Ravi Krishnan, at 03:32  

  • alright..kanewria in!

    By Blogger losing now, at 03:32  

  • Bengal is on Drinks for a long time in Cricinfo.

    Whats happening

    By Blogger krishkannan, at 03:32  

  • i will be interested in seeing how sehwag and dravid and co handle messrs flintoff and harmy and hoggard. they dont give many lose balls and our players are not great takers of singles so ..

    By Blogger GK, at 03:33  

  • come on .. give me the googly...

    By Blogger losing now, at 03:34  

  • Ganguly has asked for a timeout so that the ball can banged about in the nets. He says he will be ready after that

    By Blogger Jiet, at 03:34  

  • gk - don't forget simon jones, he'll be back for india tour.

    krish - Dada is serving an extra round of drinks on the house - lol

    By Blogger Ravi Krishnan, at 03:34  

  • GK

    by the time End come to India, we don't know who would be the captain and will Dravid be in the team

    By Blogger krishkannan, at 03:35  

  • gk,
    I think our batsmen will fare better against the English attack at home compared to the Pakistani attack in Pakistan. The main reason is the English are still bowling back of length stuff, which might be successful on pitches in England, but in the subcontinent, you must be willing to pitch it up in the right areas and invite the batsmen to drive-- the Pakistanis do this very well. Allowing the batsmen to play off the backfoot makes it very easy considering the slow nature of the tracks-- gives batsmen ample time to adjust to any little movement there may be.

    By Blogger Sahir, at 03:37  

  • Bengal are still drinking

    By Blogger krishkannan, at 03:37  

  • krish: i think the ci commie is drinking

    By Blogger losing now, at 03:38  

  • well..Flintoff and Pietersen going for glory here..or seems like it at least..10 from 13 and 22 from 23 respectively..well good luck to them..it'll take an act of extreme stupidity for pakistan to lose from here..dont really think u can keep going TORA TORA TORA on subcontinent pitches..

    By Blogger TheChowmeinWarrior, at 03:38  

  • gk - very true.

    both bengal and maharashtra players will be steady by the time play resumes ;)

    By Blogger Ravi Krishnan, at 03:39  

  • Sahir
    Not sure that is always true, but I agree that England have not bowled the right length so far and only last night and this morning did that change

    By Blogger Jiet, at 03:39  

  • The ball is really making a sweet sound off Pieterson's bat-- looking good.

    By Blogger Sahir, at 03:39  

  • who thinks that england can still win?

    By Blogger losing now, at 03:40  

  • SA are really stupid to lose a player like KP !!!

    By Blogger Ravi Krishnan, at 03:40  

  • jiet,
    Agree that it is not always true, because conditions and situations can vary, but I was speaking generally.

    By Blogger Sahir, at 03:40  

  • krish
    i hope u r joking

    sahir
    thats just what i fear. i think the indians hate to be tied down which is exactly what the english bowlers will try to do. then they throw their wickets. becoz they dont believe too much in singles.

    By Blogger GK, at 03:41  

  • I think all 4 results are still possible.

    By Blogger Ravi Krishnan, at 03:41  

  • kumble just cleaned up the tail..not sure how good that is

    By Blogger losing now, at 03:41  

  • ravi,
    Actually KP was an offspinner when he left RSA-- used to bat at 9 or 10.

    By Blogger Sahir, at 03:41  

  • Does anybody know how our ALLROUNDER is doing

    By Blogger krishkannan, at 03:41  

  • eng will lose.. or its a tight draw..(10%chance).. eng will fght for some time.. then there will be a very needed breakthrouhg.. and then all done and over with..
    or giles and udal will just save it..

    By Blogger Thanks Chappel, at 03:42  

  • losing: I think England still have an outside chance. The pitch is still flat, the bounce fairly even, Kaneria fairly flat in this match. So its all upto Akhtar’s few bursts, and how much reverse they get after 30 overs or so

    By Blogger worma, at 03:42  

  • losing now,
    It is good considering the rest of our bowlers always seem to have trouble clearing the tail-- Kumble keeps it simple-- straight and on the stumps to the lesser batsmen.

    By Blogger Sahir, at 03:43  

  • Worma: i agree..but to me Kaenria is the wild card. if one of these 2 go..he can clean up the rest with his googlies

    By Blogger losing now, at 03:43  

  • sahir - r u serious !!! does that mean SA lineup was that strong or KP improved dramatically in the county circuit ?!?!

    By Blogger Ravi Krishnan, at 03:44  

  • these 2 going at 5+ rpo

    By Blogger losing now, at 03:45  

  • KP bowled off spin - he WAS a batting allrounder in the works

    By Blogger Jiet, at 03:45  

  • If Pieterson and Flintoff survive till when there is about 10 overs to go and say 80 runs to get, you may see them have a dip-- that is really the only way I can see England pull off a victory

    By Blogger Sahir, at 03:45  

  • bring in afrid for sami.

    By Blogger losing now, at 03:46  

  • losing: yeah if one of these two go before around 10 overs from tea or so....then it is tough...

    By Blogger worma, at 03:46  

  • for england its 51 overs 230 runs.. match will stop 5-8 overs before if pakistan sees Eng NOT losing..
    so to me Eng has no chance.. but they will have to keep PAK giving the feeling that they still want to win.. otherwise Kaneria and Afridi will finish them with closin fielders..

    By Blogger Thanks Chappel, at 03:46  

  • sahir: more like 20 overs and 100 runs to score...and if these 2 are there..england wins, i think

    By Blogger losing now, at 03:47  

  • itz amazing, the phrase batting all rounder must be the most-used phrase in the last 24 hrs, thanks to Mr. More !!!

    By Blogger Ravi Krishnan, at 03:47  

  • jiet: yeah KP was an allrounder in early days...atleast in ODIs....he even recently said that he is going to work on his off-spin (I posted that interview, I think) but Fletcher told him to concentrate on his test batting first

    By Blogger worma, at 03:47  

  • Ravi,
    KP was considered a specialist spinner; he converted when he moved to England-- first to an allrounder batting in the lower middle order, and then into a specialist batsman and part-time bowler.

    By Blogger Sahir, at 03:47  

  • all
    when u r talking abt kp or freddie or anyone as an all-rounder plz keep in mind that the word has taken an altogether new meaning since yesterday.

    By Blogger GK, at 03:48  

  • losing now,
    All the scheduled overs won't be bowled-- bad light will curtail play. Are you taking that into account in your calculations?

    By Blogger Sahir, at 03:48  

  • worma,
    yeah heard about that. I think Fletcher is really key for English players not to lose their way

    By Blogger Jiet, at 03:50  

  • gk,
    Even Anil Kumble can lay more claim to being an allrounder with a batting average of over 17 and around 1500 Test runs.

    By Blogger Sahir, at 03:50  

  • if Eng is in a position to win, they may not accept the offer of bad light.

    By Blogger Ravi Krishnan, at 03:50  

  • Afridi on-- the captaincy from Inzi has been really good this game, IMO

    By Blogger Sahir, at 03:51  

  • Missed direct hit! KP was gone

    By Blogger Sahir, at 03:52  

  • Ravi, Sahir is right. KP was an off-spinner in South Africa. It was only when he came to England that he started working on his batting.

    Hence his technique (or lack of it)...

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 03:53  

  • Flintoff has bowled 104 overs in 2 tests !!!!

    By Blogger Ravi Krishnan, at 03:55  

  • Kaneria bowling round the wicket-- afraid of Hair

    By Blogger Sahir, at 03:56  

  • Really, if Kaneria is going to bowl this line, he should not bowl-- the batsmen aren't even required to play 5 of 6 deliveries

    By Blogger Sahir, at 03:57  

  • sahir
    it is up to eng - the light. if they feel they have a chance they will play in any kind of light otherwise they will take it the first time they are offered

    By Blogger GK, at 03:58  

  • Wahi...that is a rumour.

    Pietersen did not get a lot of opptrunities in SA and when he moved he exploded on the scene his first season with his batting averagin over 50.

    He did not develop his batting in England

    By Blogger Jiet, at 03:58  

  • Why doesn't Kaneria bowl over the wicket until Hair warns him once in this innings-- shouldn't assume you will get a warning

    By Blogger Sahir, at 03:58  

  • gk,
    I know the light is up to England, but it gets dark-- real dark-- doubt the batsmen will be very effective against Akhtar reversing it at 95mph when they can't see!

    By Blogger Sahir, at 04:00  

  • it is just a psycological thing i guess. kaneria is still a young bowler. not sure how he'll handle another warning....

    By Blogger Ravi Krishnan, at 04:01  

  • yeah, they'll decline the bad light offer only if KP and Freddie r still batting i guess....

    By Blogger Ravi Krishnan, at 04:03  

  • what happened to that bengal-maharashtra scorecard.. frozen at drnks?? :)

    By Blogger Sameer, at 04:03  

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