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Thursday, November 24, 2005

Too close to call yet(-worma)

It does looks like Pakistan have managed to scramble to safety this morning, what with even Shoaib Akhtar playing a patient game!

A 250 run lead, more than half the session gone, and Inzy still standing...uhh...broad :-)

What do you think? I see draw...but then this is England, and I've seen too much drama this summer.

Open thread...sort of...going to have a busy day today so no posting for a while...chat away..

posted by worma at 12:45 AM

88 Comments:

  • jiet
    LOL abe indians doing a pietersen. u cud be rite tho. and i wudnt blame them - who wud want to strive for a place in a side where jaggu dalmiya has the final word on most matters ?

    By Blogger Gaurav, at 02:19  

  • ppl check out my latest blog post on the discovery of india's brand new all-rounder

    By Blogger Gaurav, at 02:37  

  • aarrgh
    im supporting england ... hope we get to see a michael vaughan special today

    By Blogger Gaurav, at 02:47  

  • yes sahir, me too. i want england to win so that the series stays alive

    By Blogger Gaurav, at 02:51  

  • anybody, latest ranji scores ? esp the bengal maharshtra game

    By Blogger Gaurav, at 02:54  

  • mount, is india's greatest all-rounder at the crease for bengal ?

    By Blogger Gaurav, at 02:57  

  • sahir: to be fair the English players really never claimed they were best. Its their commentators and fans and media created

    By Blogger worma, at 03:08  

  • mount: so did McGrath for Ashes....does that mean Aus are not the best side in the world? Come on dude....have some perspsective....when you ask a player he will say he is looking to win all matches...did any of them say they are the best in the world? (David Graveny did say that. I have been noting who all did indulge ;-)

    By Blogger worma, at 03:12  

  • mount: dude thats what I am countering.....they never claimed to be 'best team in the world'....that different from being boisterous or arrogant or whatever....very different. And btw...they are good enough to *hope* to beat Pak 3-0...atleast the flat Pak team of 1 year ago. This is a much improved side.

    By Blogger worma, at 03:16  

  • hehe
    so now i guess the draw is no longer the favored result ? now that freddie and kp are at the crease it is either DO or DIE

    By Blogger Gaurav, at 03:16  

  • sahir: please read carefully what I said...infact what I *responded* to....the English players never claimed to be the best in the world. Many others did. Botham, Graveny, Greig, Lloyd....like I said...I know the list ;-)

    By Blogger worma, at 03:17  

  • mount: yeah no point in making big noise...they are guilty (or atleast some of them). But not of claiming to be best in the world, right?

    By Blogger worma, at 03:18  

  • ravi k
    SG (whom i will noe refer to as IGA for india's greatest all-rounder) is at the crease ?

    By Blogger Gaurav, at 03:20  

  • mount
    england have played very well more or less in pak. they have only failed to finish it off. they dominated the first test for 4 days and here they never looked in danger of losing until just NOW

    By Blogger Gaurav, at 03:23  

  • yipppee anyway this means maharashtra on top. get IGA early and maharashtra will be well on course

    By Blogger Gaurav, at 03:25  

  • true losing. it is just that england have played good solid cricket and even a defeat here wud not change that.

    By Blogger Gaurav, at 03:29  

  • sahir, u read my take on the whole all-rounder issue didn't you ?

    By Blogger Gaurav, at 03:29  

  • i will be interested in seeing how sehwag and dravid and co handle messrs flintoff and harmy and hoggard. they dont give many lose balls and our players are not great takers of singles so ..

    By Blogger Gaurav, at 03:33  

  • krish
    i hope u r joking

    sahir
    thats just what i fear. i think the indians hate to be tied down which is exactly what the english bowlers will try to do. then they throw their wickets. becoz they dont believe too much in singles.

    By Blogger Gaurav, at 03:41  

  • losing: I think England still have an outside chance. The pitch is still flat, the bounce fairly even, Kaneria fairly flat in this match. So its all upto Akhtar’s few bursts, and how much reverse they get after 30 overs or so

    By Blogger worma, at 03:42  

  • losing: yeah if one of these two go before around 10 overs from tea or so....then it is tough...

    By Blogger worma, at 03:46  

  • jiet: yeah KP was an allrounder in early days...atleast in ODIs....he even recently said that he is going to work on his off-spin (I posted that interview, I think) but Fletcher told him to concentrate on his test batting first

    By Blogger worma, at 03:47  

  • all
    when u r talking abt kp or freddie or anyone as an all-rounder plz keep in mind that the word has taken an altogether new meaning since yesterday.

    By Blogger Gaurav, at 03:48  

  • Ravi, Sahir is right. KP was an off-spinner in South Africa. It was only when he came to England that he started working on his batting.

    Hence his technique (or lack of it)...

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 03:53  

  • sahir
    it is up to eng - the light. if they feel they have a chance they will play in any kind of light otherwise they will take it the first time they are offered

    By Blogger Gaurav, at 03:58  

  • what happened to that bengal-maharashtra scorecard.. frozen at drnks?? :)

    By Blogger Sameer, at 04:03  

  • we have had only 79 overs per day in this ground.

    Pakistan have played 28, 2 for changeover and England have played 15.

    That leaves around 35 overs before bad-light.

    Don't see England winning from here, or Pakistan taking 6 wickets.

    But...

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 04:05  

  • Shoaib is back with new ball

    By Blogger Sameer, at 04:06  

  • ravik..that was a good one

    By Blogger RR, at 04:12  

  • Sahir,I think Inzi should have waited another 6-5 overs before getting Akthar back..

    That's when the ball will start reversing...

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 04:12  

  • sidhu
    no. if england opt to bat on they will have to face whatever bowling they are afforded with

    By Blogger Gaurav, at 04:16  

  • sahir
    its a ruf surface cud start reversing early

    By Blogger Gaurav, at 04:17  

  • Sahir, am/was not a fast bowler so not an expert but I thought the ball starts reversing much earlier in the sub-continent because the pitch/ground do to the ball what Hitler tried to do to Poland.

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 04:17  

  • 42 more overs to go

    By Blogger Sameer, at 04:20  

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    By Blogger Sameer, at 04:20  

  • latest score please ..

    By Blogger Raja, at 04:23  

  • sidhu
    if eng feel they can win they will be more than willing to face "dangerous" bowling

    sahir
    remember karachi 2000 ? if victory is in sight eng will do anything to get it regardless of the light

    By Blogger Gaurav, at 04:24  

  • Jiet, If I remember my history, Hitler f@#ked Poland :-)

    So the more (lets say) messed up the ball is, the more it will reverse.

    But like I said, I am not expert..

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 04:25  

  • http://cricketnext.com/news1/next/rep2005/rep328.htm

    By Blogger RR, at 04:25  

  • gk, Worma pointed out yesterday that the fielding side can appeal for light.

    Actually, in Karachi 2000, the umpires allowed the game to continue in spite of Moin Khan (fielding captain) appealing for badlight, the umpires allowed the game to continue because Pakistan had wasted a lot of time and were behind the run-rate....

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 04:27  

  • Current score at Pune
    Batsmen: R B 4s 6s S/R
    SC Ganguly (LHB) 38 59 6 0 64.41

    By Blogger RR, at 04:28  

  • sahir
    looks like freddie heard u ... we might see foot on pedal soon

    By Blogger Gaurav, at 04:33  

  • ravi whats the overall score in pune ? pity im asking that as im less than half an hour from the stadium but hell we have no cricinfo allowed in office

    By Blogger Gaurav, at 04:34  

  • Eng-Pak latest scores please ..

    By Blogger Raja, at 04:34  

  • Jiet, good point :-)

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 04:35  

  • raja, 98/4 in 26 overs.

    Flintoff 35, Peitersen 40.

    187 reqd in 39 overs...

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 04:36  

  • chucklitharan
    i think why they blocked it is pretty obvious.

    By Blogger Gaurav, at 04:38  

  • yipppee england hundred comes up

    By Blogger Gaurav, at 04:39  

  • GK...122/4 at Tea...SG on 38* and Deep Dasgupta on 15*...But, looks like cricinfo updates only session to session

    By Blogger RR, at 04:40  

  • Chuck...they have empowered the IT guys to block it :D

    By Blogger RR, at 04:42  

  • Asim will be in the team for the 3rd test if Pak win this ;)

    By Blogger RR, at 04:44  

  • now Inzi should bring Akthar back for one burst before tea..

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 04:46  

  • Cool...where do u work ??

    By Blogger RR, at 04:46  

  • Ravi1010 said...
    Cool...where do u work ??


    That is for both Chuck and k-slice :)

    By Blogger RR, at 04:48  

  • Cricinfo sucks bigtime...Regularly updates the SA provincial matches but does nothing abt the half a dozen Ranji matches...When will BCCCI wake up and have a website of its own??Atleast we don't have to depend on the Cricinfo jokers

    By Blogger RR, at 05:02  

  • ravi010, if you knew how cricinfo worked, you would not call them 'jokers'.

    They do not have people sitting on various ground to cover the matches, especially Domestic games but depend of feeds from sources.

    Now how does one get regular feeds of domestic games in India is anyone's guess.

    Our Board sucks....

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 05:08  

  • Ravi010, in case the point was missed, cricinfo is a great site.

    We should all be thankful...

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 05:10  

  • GED, game should finish in about 60 minutes or so with bad light...

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 05:23  

  • saurabh..you think they're *still* going for a win?...btw...me back from my meetings..and Eng, as usual, keeping it still a secret!

    By Blogger worma, at 05:28  

  • pp: The Hindu covers a lot of domestic matches

    By Blogger worma, at 05:39  

  • no worma, victory for england is unlikely. Pakistan is attacking, so don't mind the runs. Once they realize that England are getting close, they will go on defensive.


    But with Flintoff at the crease....

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 05:43  

  • another 50 runs with this partnership and Pak would start defending.

    By Blogger worma, at 05:45  

  • Prem,

    Anything outside of outside of the 11 men in blue is not Indian cricket, right?

    So why should anyone bother with domestic cricket in india.

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 05:47  

  • Is Afridi bowling seam-up? Anyone watching?

    By Blogger worma, at 05:48  

  • Worma, this is where England shut shop....

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 05:52  

  • yeah....Gilo and Jones can do that...played Shoaib well in the first innings as well....read his reversing yorkers well

    By Blogger worma, at 05:53  

  • aha...Giles gets a life on first ball!

    By Blogger worma, at 05:53  

  • mount, it did 50 years ago. that's why they have been struggling..

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 05:55  

  • mount...clever :-)...but its the 'umpires' that matter here

    By Blogger worma, at 05:56  

  • recon another 10 overs to go before bad light....

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 06:01  

  • yeah...looks like they're making the final stretch...wonder how much is Pak attacking?

    By Blogger worma, at 06:02  

  • Jones and Giles having to do a Lee and Warne ;-)....

    By Blogger worma, at 06:07  

  • galli: rr doesn't matter now.

    By Blogger worma, at 06:10  

  • Akhtar probably using his final reserves? And Pak its final chance

    By Blogger worma, at 06:14  

  • But Akhtar's application in this series(so far) has been very impressive...and dangerous signals to India.

    By Blogger worma, at 06:15  

  • jiet..yes well atleast for India...not sure if he'll sustain this long enough for other teams to worry :-)

    By Blogger worma, at 06:17  

  • Jiet, good news for Cricket in general if AKthar is back at his best.

    And I would rather see India play Pakistan with Akthar at his best.

    It makes for more interesting viewing, dont you think?

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 06:20  

  • saurabh: was reading some comments earlier about the reversing and how it works earlier in subcontinent. From what I read recently, its not the case in Pakistan because of the kookaburra balls used there...the seam doesnt come up but instead goes in and merges with the ball....so tougher to get reverse under 'normal' circumstances....atleast till the other portions of the ball(and quarter seam) is more roughed up.

    By Blogger worma, at 06:23  

  • saurabh: ofcourse its interesting viewing to play Akhtar at his best...no doubts there.

    By Blogger worma, at 06:24  

  • ur right. Like I said, I dont understand reverse swing...

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 06:32  

  • over

    By Blogger worma, at 06:38  

  • and surprisingly...I don't see either Pakistan or Eng taking much psychological gains from here to next match..

    and Eng would be missing Strauss next match (was he due a big one? This is his first series without a hundred) and probably Giles(?)..and Pak Afridi

    By Blogger worma, at 06:40  

  • allan: what? :-)

    By Blogger worma, at 07:05  

  • hey there?

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 07:08  

  • saurabh what?...why so many half questions ? :-))

    By Blogger worma, at 07:09  

  • SG's performance is vrey good allan...especially given the match situation, and his personal pressure condition. I hope he carries this into the test match.

    But, just for record, he's not a batting allrounder. Not at international level. Not yet. He may go on to become one...he may even go on to becomes a bowling allrounder..but thats into the future. Heck even Pathan may go on to become a batting allrounder (like Shastri, Jayasurya, Kallis, Afridi did in their careers)

    By Blogger worma, at 07:24  

  • yeah playing Udal was a hopeless tactic (and play him only if Giles is not fully fit). English batting is looking much better now, but probably also due to the ineffectiveness of Kaneria (with the warning etc). KP and Freddie are amongst runs...and also Strauss is leaving :-)

    By Blogger worma, at 08:12  

  • ss: check for k-slice's comments above..he went to watch. And scores are on cricinfo

    By Blogger worma, at 08:45  

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