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Sunday, November 20, 2005

In summation(-worma)

In continuation of the recent post by Ruchir on the issue, here's an excellent summation of various aspects involved in the English tour itinerary drama by Anand Vasu at cricinfo. Not sure if Vasu was following our discussions here :-)....but this is something I'd been hoping for a long time. That our Indian media should appropriately respond to the rumblings in the English media (yes, not the ECB).
At the time of writing BCCI sources told The Wisden Cricketer, "There has been no official complaint from the ECB about the venues allotted to them. The press has been moaning, but that has nothing to do with us. If the ECB complains, then we will discuss things with them.

In summary, Vasu agrees that having so many venues in a country like India is unwieldy, and that there is scope for improvement. But also that there is a rotation system in place, and that means there's hardly any preferential treatment meted out to some favourable countries, as certain section of English media would like us to believe.
But do read the whole thing, very interesting indeed.

17 Comments:

  • thanks for linking that article worma.. succinct and to the point.. captures the ebb and flow of the arguments in the blog perfectly

    By Blogger galli_cricket, at 14:29  

  • i agree with the article. Just like in other areas, the English are very "slow" to realize that their supremacy is over. They need to wake up and smell the coffee..or they will keep getting these kicks in the rear end.

    By Blogger losing now, at 14:34  

  • seriously.. are the english even such a big draw in these parts? lose at faisalabad and dont think too many indians will be interested with the poms touring...

    By Blogger galli_cricket, at 14:37  

  • I liked the last 2 sentences the most.

    In the past teams touring England, dealing with the all-powerful England and Wales Cricket Board, have been treated shabbily, their smallest requests for changes in schedules met with the response that scheduling was the home board's prerogative. Now the boot is on the other foot, and the ECB are finding it's not a great place to be.

    By Blogger Ruchir Joshi, at 17:46  

  • damn rite the scheduling is home board's prerogative.

    I don't see how English team practising is a diplomatic snub for us. If they want to practise in pak and think that will help them the f*$% we care.

    By Blogger Amit, at 19:08  

  • Have you read this REDIFF news...Ganguly set for Test Return
    http://in.rediff.com/cricket/2005/nov/21gang.htm
    So what, Now they will bring SG back becos they are SCARED of Calcutta crowd THAT IS LOUSY
    JD's screwed up cunning tactics.

    By Blogger Glorious Uncertainty(GU), at 01:41  

  • Worma, You (and Anand Vasu) genuinely believe there is a rotation policy in place!!!!

    Check this out. Bangalore, Hyderabad & Kolkata, are hosting South Africa right now. They also hosted games merely 13 games ago.

    Given that there are 29 grounds in the country, how come they are hosting games before Indore, Guwahiti, Goa, Faridabad & cuttak, all which are venues chosen for the English tour?

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 02:02  

  • saurabh,
    when did bangalore, hyderabad host games 13 games ago ?

    By Blogger GK, at 02:09  

  • Widespread rains forecast as depression moves closer to TN
    Chennai, Nov 21 (PTI):After two weeks of respite, rains lashed various parts of Tamil Nadu, including the metropolis, since the wee hours of today with the depression over the Bay of Bengal moving closer to the state's coast. Several low-lying areas in the city were inundated due to the heavy rains.

    Weather Office here said the depression which was located at 650 kms east southeast of Pamban in Ramanathapuram district yesterday lay 550 kms as of 5 am today and was likely to move slowly further in a west northwesterly direction.

    Under its influence, rain or thundershowers were likely to occur at most places over south Tamil Nadu and at many places over north coastal Tamil Nadu and Pondicherry, during the next 24 hours beginning at 8.30 AM today.

    Isolated heavy rains were also likely over Thanjavur, Tiruvarur, Nagapattinam, Cuddalore, Tiruchirappalli and Puducottai districts and Karaikal area of Pondicherry during the same period, the weather office said.

    Squally weather with wind speed reaching upto 55 to 65 kms per hour was likely over these places during the same period, it said. Strong wind with speed of 45 to 55 kmph were likely along the remaining coastal districts.

    The met office warned fishermen not to venture into the sea off Tamil Nadu-Pondicherry coast as the "conditions would be rough to very rough."

    The metropolis which had just come back to normalcy after the heavy bouts of rains late last month and early this month since the onset of north east monsoon was once again being battered by rains since wee hours of this morning inundating low-lying areas.

    By Blogger krishkannan, at 02:20  

  • saurabh: few clarifications.

    1) I believe there is a rotational policy in tests...atleast as of now...past couple of year...and I posted the table to prove that

    2) I was not sure about ODI rotational policy..because of so many venues it was difficult for me to figure out.

    3) But I am sure if there is an ODI rotational policy, its independent of the test match rotation. And that makes sense.

    4) Vasu claimed that ODI rotation is also on a similar policy...he must have his info and reasons to believe that. I dont deny or agree because I dont have that info.

    Cool?? :-))

    By Blogger worma, at 02:30  

  • I really think that most of you need to calm down.

    EVERY team that tours India debates the itinerary. Get those enormous chips off your shoulders about England and the ECB and world cricket will benefit.

    It is perfectly reasonable for the ECB to seek to look after its players and its travelling fan base.

    It is perfectly reasonable for the BCCI to try to protect its rotation policy and its diverse stakeholders.

    The two boards should reach an amicable and reasonable agreement.

    The English media should shut up with their exaggerated whinges while those delicate negotiations take place.

    And with all due respect, most people commenting here (with one or two moderate exceptions) should also shut up their nonsense.

    By Blogger Ged, at 02:33  

  • this is just SAD - tomorrows match is likely to be badly affected by rain

    By Blogger GK, at 02:35  

  • Ganguly set for Test return

    M Chhaya in Kolkata | November 21, 2005 11:10 IST


    Deposed India captain Sourav Ganguly looks set to make a comeback in the Test team to be announced on Wednesday.

    According to sources in the Board of Control for Cricket in India, Ganguly will stage a comeback, but the captaincy will remain with Rahul Dravid.

    The selectors are expected to pick a 15-member squad for the first of a three-Test series against Sri Lanka in Chennai on Wednesday besides naming the team for the last two one-day internationals against South Africa. The captain for the Test series will be named on Tuesday.

    BCCI sources said the team for the last two one-dayers is likely to remain the same that played the first three ties.

    Debate: We don't respect our heroes?
    Initially, the Test team was to be picked on November 28, but that date has been advanced, and BCCI sources said it has been decided to name the squad with Ganguly in it to avoid trouble ahead of the one-day international against South Africa in Kolkata on November 25.

    There have been numerous protests in the city against the continued exclusion of Ganguly from the team.

    There has also been some talk of India going the Australian way and appointing two separate captains for the two variants of the game, but that now seems unlikely.

    "Ganguly is India's most successful skipper, but all those statistics is history now. He can only hope to be back in the team as a member," said a BCCI source.

    By Blogger krishkannan, at 02:59  

  • ged: point taken mate :-)...actually I hardly had anything new to say on this...just made this post because there was finally an Indian viewpoint taken up in media (and you know, unlike the Eng media, we are really not up for writing for our causes straight away). Also felt that this particular column from Vasu was well balanced...finding faults in the system where they exist, and rubbishing the exxagerated and wrongly placed claims on other aspects.

    By Blogger worma, at 02:59  

  • and ged: lets talk cricket, mate. What say about Eng chances now? I think they can't win or even draw this one....because if they're chasing anything more than 150 it would be impossible on last day of this pitch. And with Afridi also in the attack.

    By Blogger worma, at 03:04  

  • Worma - your comments on the scheduling (and those of Vasu) fall into that "rare, moderate" category.

    Talk cricket - whatever next! ;-)

    I'll remind you of the Oval test match in 2003. SA 484, England 604/9 dec, SA 229, England 110/1 win by 9 wickets. Sitting in the ground when we finally bowled SA out for 484, I merely commented that if we could score 600 first innings on this belter we'll give ourselves a chance. I was laughed at by most of my friends and those sitting around me.

    My comment on this game is similar. The difference of course, is that SA lack a world class spinner (as do England of course) whereas Pakisatn have one. 600+ will be a big, big ask. But not impossible.

    This game isn't over; nor is the series.

    I

    By Blogger Ged, at 03:36  

  • ged: exactly my thoughts (btw, started a new post on main page with those thoughts:-) that the outside chance Eng have to score a huge total...atleast 150 ahead...and then hope to chase not much more than 100. Remember this is a much more helpful pitch (or will be, day 4 and 5) than Multan, and also that Afridi is a handful in helpful conditions..esp if the bounce is uneven.

    lets take this discussion to the other thread...main page

    By Blogger worma, at 03:43  

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