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Thursday, November 17, 2005

England's miseries(-worma)

As if the defeat, and the wait for Vaughan's return wasn't enough, now Trescothick may have to travel back home due to personal reasons.
If Trescothick does need to fly home it will leave England with a batting headache, if captain Michael Vaughan does not recover from a knee injury to lead his team in the second Test in Faisalabad
That Tresco was the only Eng batsman convincingly amongst runs is ofcourse the main worry. Besides the small matter of burdening the already over-loaded Freddie with captaincy. This tour can really turn into a disaster for Eng. Ofcourse on the flip side Vaughan can recover, Tresco may not have to fly home, and they can come back strongly.

In more bad news Hoggard was fined for excessive appealing...err...not appealing...whatever the heck ICC thinks he was doing or avoiding.

Then the post-mortem reports: Jonathan Agnew on BBC although nothing we haven't already discussed. Eng's inability to read Kaneria is his focus.
Part of the reason for this is that none of the batsmen appeared to have a clue what Danish Kaneria was doing with the ball.
Although he even wonders if this was the best chance for Eng to register a win in this series.
They might very well have their captain back for the second match, but they might not get a better chance to win a game in this series than in Multan.


Derek Pringle also zeroes in on the lack of application, and over-ambitious nature of Eng batting.
They cannot claim they were not forewarned of their batting frailties. In both warm-up games the burning question had been who would get significant runs if Marcus Trescothick failed, as he did in the second innings here? The answer was nobody.
The criticism of KP is muted yet, but I can already see the buildup
KP, a monicker that doesn't yet have the same ring as WG, was never going to get the runs in singles, as he revealed when hoisting Kaneria for a six over midwicket. He is the kind of bloke who puts his chips on green in Roulette, and wins, but his team might have benefited from a more measured approach
Kind of..like Sehwag in test matches, no? Or, more correctly, hoping to be a Sehwag like case, I would say.

Then comes dear Geoffrey Boycott who, as usual, holds no punches.
If they play like that in Australia next winter they will get walloped. If that is how they play under pressure then they will never retain the Ashes. They have to learn to adapt.
He also points out their all too noticeable technical drawbacks against spin
They sweep or lap the ball or wait for a short one to punish because they can't pick Danish Kaneria's bowling. They are not confident of driving or coming out of their crease because they are not sure which way the ball is going to turn.
Although he doesn't go all the way closing the door of the series on them
I still think England's bowlers can take 20 wickets and that gives them a chance, but Pakistan will now be very tempted to prepare flat batting pitches and get draws out of the remaining two Tests. England have come back before, but they will have to bat a hell of a lot better next time


Also Jim White and Martin Johnson in Telegraph..pretty much echoing the same sentiments. Johnson's, though, the most entertaining of them all. On Pak's fear of losing
There are three types of veils in Multan, one worn by the women for religious reasons, one by the men to keep out the dust and one by their cricketers to disguise themselves in the event of losing.
And on Pak team's focus on final day
The first clue we had as to how focused Pakistan were was when Inzamam ul Haq made a diving stop in the gully. This may be routine stuff for your average cricketer, but when they get around to erecting a monument to Inzy in his home town, they won't know which is the statue and which is actually him. It is the first recorded instance of Izamam getting dirt on his sweater, or indeed effecting a piece of fielding that registered more frames per second - albeit marginally - than the slow motion replay.


Meanwhile, in the WI-Aus second test...its the same old story. Somehow...this series, in more ways than one, reminds me of our 0-3 drubbing in the 98-99 season down under.

42 Comments:

  • I watched the match on TV for sometime this morning. This WI team is pathetic. Thre is no application.Except for Gayle(hats off to him..he came back after a check up for a heart related problem and played a decent innings)And the less said about Chanderpaul,the better. He does not motivate, does not have the stature of a captain.And he plays one of the most ugly and bring cricket.Coming from a left-hander..it is really a surprise.Someone needs to advice him on his stance.It is a real 'put-off'.This WI team is yet to reach its nadir..Will do in time for the WC07 and it is going to be a disaster in that group of islands...They may end up losing all their matches...Oh..how i wish I could go back in time and watch the WI of the 70s and 80s

    By Blogger RR, at 06:11  

  • "ugly and bring cricket" oops!! read as ugly and boring cricket

    By Blogger RR, at 06:12  

  • Shri...If this team can beat or has the potentail to beat Australia...then.... I am Amitabh Bachan :D

    By Blogger RR, at 06:15  

  • Naks...heard one of the commentators sometime back asking him and he mentioned that it helps him sight the ball better and remain focussed...whatever that means...lot of hocus pocus,I would say

    By Blogger RR, at 06:16  


  • "The best thing about Sachin is that he is a team man. He will play the way the team requires him to play, he can adjust his batting in different situations and I think that is a huge quality he has.- Rahul Dravid
    Indian captain - On Sachin Tendulkar's return to the team"

    Oh...Then why did he not play to the team's requirements in Pakistan...Why did RD declare when SRT was on 194??

    What is this new finding....GC experimenting with RD's memory and SRT's patience??

    Bunch of liars and fence sitters is all that we have in Indian cricket

    By Blogger RR, at 06:22  

  • shri: This team has 'potential' to beat Aus...ofcourse if they all play close to 100% and Aus drops down a notch etc etc...they sure have a chance (and its not theoretical, I think its realistic although very little). But so did that Indian team...remember *potential*....not the 'state of mind' in which they went. After all we had 3 good batsmen in SRT, RD, SG and one 'potentially very good' one in VVS...bowling we had Sri, Agarkar(remember..poentially, at that time, he was the next..umm..dunno...but someone 'great' ;-)

    I was also reminded of that tour because we started with a disaster in a wrong decision to SRT (he was having a dream form at that time...and was playing so well...middle of a potentially series platform defining partnership with SG...and bang...that 'LBW' came in)...same happened here with Lara in first match...and like India then and WI now...it seems that that was the 'turning point' when the team deflated.

    And after all...I said 'some' ways in which this reminded me of that tour...not 'all' is similar ;-)

    nakshatrika: those stickers are anti-glare strips...supposed to reduce glare of the sun (dunno how)...saw some internet ads of that

    By Blogger worma, at 06:22  

  • .Shri..Why single out Lara..the team as a whole is not performing and left handers around the world are going thru' a lean trot(except GC Smith, I guess).Hayden has barely managed a recovery :)

    By Blogger RR, at 06:24  

  • and here's an article on behind-the-scenes action in WI camp

    By Blogger worma, at 06:24  

  • Worma...how could u leave this out...This is a rocker..."and if Danish Kaneria is no Shane Warne, he does at least have a googly which - in terms of being able to read it - was sent down in Urdu to England's batsmen."Brilliant writing

    By Blogger RR, at 06:40  

  • shri: well there's a lot of behind-the-scene activity with this WI team also. And yes Waugh's team was stronger than this. But then, as I said, 'some' similarities :P

    nakshathrika: yep Kaneria is that good. Not Warne (IMHO, will never be) but still very good. He constantly troubled them...and don't go by 'great' balls...its how much control you have...and variations...and how diff to predict. He's all that.

    Haven't seen Mushy recently...but in his haydays...was surely better than this. But lets wait...Kaneria has played only 20+ matches yet...and just established himself as the first choice spinner in last couple of seasons. I think he's far from his peak.

    By Blogger worma, at 06:43  

  • ravi1010 : well I didn't quote the whole thing :-)...ofcourse it has many entertaining snippets.

    By Blogger worma, at 06:45  

  • Yep!! I realized..Cheers

    By Blogger RR, at 06:50  

  • neither was Lee (officially)...so Aus is also supposedly clean

    By Blogger worma, at 06:54  

  • ged: yeah not much chance of changing openers for Pak. Unless they are put off by the reporting of Malik's bowling action, and want someone with that option. Only then can Afridi replace him. Otherwise Afridi in place of Raza is more likely.

    About Eng..is Cook an opener? Otherwise they would surely want him to play in the middle order..in case they don's trust Collingwood anymore. Although Loudon in his position is a stretch. Would add to the middle order fragility, I would think. Btw, I don't think Vaughan would be in a position to bowl, even if he comes back.

    And I definitely agree that playing Udal is useless...thought that before the start of this match also. Plunkett is surely better (yeah, not Anderson...he needs some help from conditions).

    Btw...with the king of Spain in your ranks...you're hardly ever likely to win spin battles ;-)...umm...maybe against SA :P

    By Blogger worma, at 07:09  

  • nakshathrika: dont mind that..its just light hearted banter :-)....just like pulling Inzy's leg (saw that Martin Johnson column I linked to?)

    btw, I agree he fits well into the role that the Eng team has defined for him (whatever his skills, capabilities and limitations may be). He certainly earns well his share of credit in the success this Eng team is enjoying.

    By Blogger worma, at 07:24  

  • Naks..Giles is a run of the mill bowler.If he has got wickets..let's not attribute that to Giles guiles but to the gullibilty of the batsmen who threw away their wicket in sheer boredom of batting against him

    By Blogger RR, at 07:25  

  • No comparison...both are not anywhere near the class of Vettori or Maninder or even Raghuram Bhat(remember him??)

    By Blogger RR, at 07:35  

  • k-slice :D
    Naks..Raghuram Bhat played for India under Sunil Gavaskar...games by SG to spite Vijayakrishna(a bowler like Rajinder Goel)...full of guile and cunning...goes back to the time when SG batted left handed and Vijaykrishna was pissed off that he instigated the crowd to create a ruckus...Wah!! Indian Cricket...and we have survived to see everything

    By Blogger RR, at 07:47  

  • k-slice...But, can he keep the glares of his team mates away?? ;D

    By Blogger RR, at 07:48  

  • K-slice...You can't complete a blog w/o a dig at SG :)and I can't w/o a dig at GC...apple to apple ??
    On any given day, SG's stylish batting cannot be compared...at least not with C'paul..My only wish is that I see SG in action one last time in a full to the brim Eden Gardens and he makes a stylish fifty(not asking for much) with atleast two trademark sixers over long-on and long-off....If every wish was granted...we would keep asking for more...wouldn't we....more ...more ...Kiran More!!??

    By Blogger RR, at 08:17  

  • ged: yes I knew about Cook's double...somehow slipped my mind what position he played in.

    About Giles - well you'd be surprised to know how much dependent on bounce some of the subcontinent spinners also are. Bhajji and Kaneria also like bounce (and both, as far as I know, as shorter than Giles). His shortcomings are his lack of variations (or atleast attempt to try them enough, if he does possess them). Thats what makes him easy play for better to good players of spin. And for them he has to resort to mental tactics rather than physical. Anyway, as I said, atleast I am aware of his status in this Eng team, and I think he adds value there.

    About Eng itinerary: a new twist...didn't we read recently that the meeting that Carr had with BCCI resulted in status-quo *and* chosing of the practise fixtures? Then what is this They have also scheduled two three-day practice matches ahead of the Test series for Jamshedpur and Agartala, towns without luxury hotels - read it here http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/england/4445250.stm Anyway, we all know the shortcomings of BCCI, and atleast I am ready to find faults in their methods at the slightest hint :-)

    Btw, the timing of the test matches is probably not totally in BCCI's control alone, I would think. Idea time to tour is deinfitely winter, but thats when we play SL and Eng plays Pak. So, I guess thats more of a mutual thing. But I would surely love to play 4 or 5 tests instead of 3. But somehow longer test series seem to be diminishing species. We played a 4 test series against Aus, and that too as a one-off I think. Can't remember when, before that, did we play a longer test series.

    By Blogger worma, at 08:56  

  • worma,
    did you notice the crap in Martin Johnson's article about the neutral umpires in the series preventing the cheating prevalent earlier by home umpires - he says "in these parts of the world" and goes on to quote an indian umpire to prove that sub-continent umpires are pathectic.
    As though these whites were the epitomes of justice and competence!
    Balls, Mr Johnson

    By Blogger raj, at 09:10  

  • jd: yeah in recent times only the Aus series...BCCI often prefers extra couple of ODIs than that 4th test (yes, this from what I remember reading). So...we played a 4 test series against Aus...guess why...because there were no ODI series to bargain :-)

    I'm sure even with Eng we fixed 7 ODIs instead of 5 as a bargain for cutting down on a test.

    ged: I'm not sure on what *grounds* has BCCI been flexible with other boards. This is what I've been saying from my first post onwards...the most important issue here is on what basis is the shift being requested? E.g. we shifted Pak from Ahmedabad on security concerns. I think BCCI may have conceded to some other change requests on similar grounds, or due to lack of suitable facilities etc.

    And note that ECB has not yet sent an inspection team to find out the suitability of the venues. I think I remember reading that they would be doing that soon. And it would be fair to make the change requests then on, don't you think so?

    Currently what are the grounds of change request from ECB? I don't know. So I ask you. Are they aware of the kind of hotels they have to stay in these small cities? Or the practise facilities? Or the air/road connections from nearest big centers? I am genuinely not aware if the discussions are on these lines, but its not reflecting so in the media reports.

    And btw, I do agree (and did that from first post onwards) that India as a country tends to lose (in terms of image, in terms of tourism promotion etc) from this whole controversy. But these are hardly of any concern to BCCI, and not sure if they should concern ECB. Not, atleast, in an official sort of way.

    By Blogger worma, at 09:25  

  • and btw...'where were the supporters last time' is definitely a foolish comment :-)

    By Blogger worma, at 09:26  

  • afaik
    ECB has expressed concerns over the facilities at guwahati indore and some third place

    By Blogger Gaurav, at 09:26  

  • the fact is the bcci is yet to be sure that the england team is box office material - previous england teams to india produced pretty dull cricket - now this team is different but i guess it will have to show its potential in india and then the next time the bcci can make concessions to give them bigger venues - like they do for australia

    By Blogger Gaurav, at 09:35  

  • raj: I think Johnson mentioned it half jokingly. But yes, all countries have had their share of notoriety as far as umpiring is concerned. Certainly not a subcontinental phenomenon :-)

    By Blogger worma, at 09:40  

  • gk: common mistake....what 'bigger venues' did Australia get? Did you see the test rotation table I posted some time back? And Aus has played ODIs in Indore, Goa, Cochin etc.

    ged I understand and agree with the reasons, the problem with BCCI is what I mentioned earlier. If they start being flexible with their rotation policy, I would be nervous...coz we can't predict the sort of reasons for which that flexibility would be abused.

    Anyway...yes there is some kind of unnecessary muscle flexing also going on, as I can see from those kind of statements. And btw, I've written this earlier also, I dont think there is fair rotation policy in ODIs. So probably those can (and should) be changed ultimately, if the ECB so demands

    By Blogger worma, at 09:45  

  • jd,
    australia always get the good venues for tests. for odis they are rotated like anyone else, which is fair. i think the ecb has inspected the facilities before commenting

    By Blogger Gaurav, at 09:46  

  • gk: no they haven't inspected the venues yet Carr said that another team of experts will visit India this January to visit all the venues. “As things stand, the exact fixtures will be finalised by the BCCI by November 30, as we have agreed,” Carr said. Its from the link Prem posted yesterday. http://cities.expressindia.com/fullstory.php?newsid=157455

    By Blogger worma, at 09:50  

  • now worma, i mean for test cricket - autralia's tests in india in the last 18 years have been as follows


    chennai 3
    kolkata 2
    bangalore 2
    mumbai 2
    nagpur 1
    delhi 1

    By Blogger Gaurav, at 09:50  

  • gk: cant vouch for last 18 years...but certainly I pointed out from last 20 test matches that the rotation policy in tests seems to have been reasonably fair. I am not even sure if we had a policy way back then!

    While I could not get a similar pattern in ODIs..hence my opinion that there the rotation might not be as strict

    By Blogger worma, at 09:55  

  • worma
    when i say last 18 years it actually means only the last 9 because we didnt play australia at home from 1987-1996.

    By Blogger Gaurav, at 10:00  

  • Faisalabd wicket will be similar to Multan - I don't think we'd be too inclined to change a winning formula - we might have to change a winning team though

    The tail in the last test was just way too long, Razzaq and Afridi some how must come in, can't decide in who's place. There have been calls from some to drop Yousuf, but Inzi, in a column for Express, (urdu newspaper, hence doesn't have a website) said there was no such chance. Amazingly, he also seemed pretty keen on Raza, saying his selection was justified. I got the feeling he was defending the batting, hoping for it to improve next time, but that tail just has to get shorter.

    And who ever asked if Kaneria was a good bowler, I'll answer that. He's world class. He should get 400 wickets at least if not more.

    By Blogger Unknown, at 10:01  

  • ps: ged, I think England are talking non-sense with their whinging over the venues - it's India's home series, they can make England play where ever they want. Simple as that.

    By Blogger Unknown, at 10:03  

  • pps: anyone dare not slagg of The King in front of me - I'm a massive fan! All hail Gilo - he'll bounce back next test - this pitch too slow for him.

    By Blogger Unknown, at 10:04  

  • zainub
    i really like kaneria .... the way he kept the indians honest last year was amazing ....however it is too early to say whether he will take 400 wickets

    By Blogger Gaurav, at 10:13  

  • zainub: ok mate...all hail the king :)

    About the tail...well...I know you want to get Afridi as a regular bowler ;)...wonder if its worth it....all the bowlers justified their inclusion. If he comes in, it can only be for Raza (who I also feel should be given another chance, 1 test on comeback is not enough) or Malik in case he wont be bowling due to report. Btw...same can apply to Shabbir also...then what? Would Inzy risk getting him no-balled in the test?

    By Blogger worma, at 10:15  

  • gk: as I said..dunno what the policies were earlier...but they seem to be doing atleast something straight, for a change, as of now...lets not pull that down atleast ;-)

    By Blogger worma, at 10:16  

  • i wud stick with VS at the top - after all the euphoria about GG he did play a pretty pathetic shot to get out and ill have raina as supersub .... always good to have a person who can do both and field well as supersub

    By Blogger Gaurav, at 10:53  

  • The decline of WI pains me greatly...I love how they played their cricket with much pomp and grandeur...there was not only a dash of authority in everything they did but also a sense of fun. Besides Lara only Chris Gayle at times shows glimpses of free-wheeling play matched with aggression but as Peter Roebuck & Steve Waugh have pointed out he needs to do it more consistently. An avg of under 40 after 50+ tests does not cut it. Sarwan was being touted as a future captain but again even he averages just 40. Marlon Samuels has everyone raving about his talent but when it matters he rarely delivers...same could be said about their motley group of fast bowlers and long-list of tried and failed batsmen. Chanderpaul is the only other quality batsmen in the WI line-up but he is too reticent to lead this side.
    And all this criticism for Lara...well he's damned if he scores and damned if he doesn't. No player can carry an entire team on his shoulders and that too for more than a decade. The other players have to stand-up and be counted.

    By Blogger ClannZú, at 13:36  

  • hey! if you didnt know, that is a mock-diary written by the columnist :-).
    Cool down

    By Blogger raj, at 03:25  

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