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Friday, November 18, 2005

Talk like a Laxman(-worma)

Ok...again garbled (and probably inflammatory) title....but here's Hayden, fresh from mauling a potentially talented but undisciplined and increasingly down-and-out attack, calling for a return of his ODI spot! This from a man who was looking for a place to hide after repeatedly being found out by quality (and some average) attacks for more than a year.

Sure its nice to be ambitious, and always work towards what he desires, but IMO its too early. He should wait and prove himself against better challenges, and for a longer period of time.

Although, IMO, the Aus selectors are most likely going to ignore his claims for a forward-looking approach. And mainly so because the ODI team, unlike the test team, is not even going through a minor crisis of resources.


  • worma,
    You reckon the Aussie selectors will persist with Katich opening in ODIs? Maybe a move up the order for Hussey?

    By Blogger Sahir, at 13:43  

  • no...Katich I thought was poor choice anyway. Maybe Clarke (but first let him save his spot in tests...which may even affect his ODI spot) is a better fit there. Hussey ofcourse can do the job. Then Hodge can come in the middle order...esp if he makes runs in tests.

    By Blogger worma, at 13:48  

  • worma,

    I don't see anything wrong in his claims. After all he scored 4 hundreds recently. He can make his claims. Its upto selectors to take him or not. Claiming his place based on runs he makes is lot better than what we are seeing here in India. Our dropped players make all kinds of sounds after one fifty or hundred. Atlease Hayden had make 4 hundreds recently against England,ICC and west Indies. And talking about quality of bowling, I don't understand you. All he can do is score in all matches he is asked to play. He can't go to Cricket Australia and ask them to conduct matches against so and so teams so that he can show his form

    By Blogger Yorker, at 13:49  

  • worma
    i admit i've not been following very closely but it was my understanding that the problem that hayden was facing was similar to what sehwag is currently facing. he was able to get starts but not sustain it.
    was this the case or was his technique exposed?

    By Blogger JD, at 13:49  

  • jd,
    Think you are right (I havent looked up the stats yet) but he gets a start in invariable every match before throwing it away, mainly because of his (over)aggressiive approach.
    As for a man who scores 4 centuries in 4 tests, I think he is more than welcome to make a request. He is also approaching 1000 runs in test cricket this year.

    By Blogger Toney, at 13:56  

  • yorker: as I said....nothing wrong...he should aim for what he wishes...just that, from our 'outsider' view...the claims are not strong enough. As you would have seen, the way he's batting is not the Hayden of old(who himself was not a special ODI batsman, just a good one at best). His Eng inning was scratchiest he's ever played, and these are against indisciplined, ragged attack. But still....if he does continue in this form, he would surely stake a stronger claim. Although as I said, I feel Aus selectors may not look back, unless a real ODI disaster happens to the Aus team.

    I agree he cannot go and score against India, if he's playing against WI. But he can wait, no? Anyway...its not a terrible indictment of him, and I didnt mean to sound it that way. Just trying to convey that its a bit shallow, at this point of time, IMO

    jd: Nope...Hayden, in Eng, was struggling technically. His front foot stride..and early play was not suited for the late swing of Eng bowlers. In India, where his struggle started, we had just figured his spin game out..and he didnt adapt. Probably mental thing also once he started struggling, he continued against others. But, with the End debacle, I feel his real game is gone. Ofcourse the way he was earlier, even a 70% Hayden would do well against many teams. Thats what he's doing. Did you know he scored 11 boundaries in this century against WI on a flat pitch!

    By Blogger worma, at 13:57  

  • toney about the 1000 runs in 2004...here's what I pointed out to someone in another post:

    muthu: About Hayden's form....well he played lots of matches in 2004...his initial form was ok...but deteriorated since the Indian tour. He dropped around 10 points in his average in the year. And also, his lean run continued from 2Q 2004 to around 3Q of 2005...thats a long run...and includes around 20+ matches! So...not everything is revealed by those 'yearly' numbers you stated

    By Blogger worma, at 13:59  

  • I wonder what these Aussie batsmen would avg if they had to face McGrath & Warne.

    By Blogger ClannZĂș, at 15:11  

  • Aussie selectors usually take a definitive view about players. If the selectors felt that Hayden's game was being affected by his over-aggressive ODI methods, then his exclusion seems to have worked like a charm. More than this, the Aussies are banking on Symmonds, Clarke and Hussey to try out a few other options.

    By Blogger IssaicN, at 15:53  

  • It is unfair to compare Laxman to woes faced by Hayden. Laxman has never been in a major slump. He always excelled against great teams (e.g Aus & Pak).It is true he has drawbacks in the fielding and running between the wickets but the heading is not appropriate.

    By Blogger babi, at 16:31  

  • It is unfair to compare Laxman to woes faced by Hayden. Laxman has nelogURL=http://get-to-know-lake-tahoe.com/lake-tahoe/california-concierge-lake-tahoe/ake-tahoe/

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 16:39  

  • babi: where was the comparison? I used Laxman's name in a loose sense of someone trying to make an ODI comeback...and also probably someone who needs to fix his test match problems a bit (which Lax has had for some time....nothing comparable with Hayden). Hey...there's no specific comparison of who is a better player (or who's in a worse form etc).

    By Blogger worma, at 16:40  

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