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Wednesday, November 09, 2005

Ind-SL Match 6 - Open thread for 2nd Innings

Moved over from DG. Here's the open thread.

Lets do a poll, review later to see which one you liked better.


  • friends are we here or on the DG for the 2nd one?

    By Blogger rahul_fan, at 02:04  

  • Right here pal

    By Blogger FineLeg, at 02:04  

  • here...am announcing there to move over here

    By Blogger worma, at 02:04  

  • that was quiet conveninet as well ? any reason for the switch over?

    By Blogger rahul_fan, at 02:06  

  • worma...one half of a game is too short a trial period to decide what's better...if you take a vote today, it will likely be skewed toward the blog just bcoz of comfort factor....there are clearly quite a few advantages here, which are apparent only after you have given this a thorough working over, the only problem seems to be this review post nonsense, there's probably an option somewhere that I am unaware of....also, prem is being able to post here, which is a biggie imo....anyway, we can move to the blog...and for all we know, as Prem has said, all this is moot if we are moving to a new Rediff interface anyway....

    By Blogger The Straighter Neo, at 02:07  

  • that was a cut and paste from my DG post...

    By Blogger The Straighter Neo, at 02:07  

  • sorry guys...move back to the DG...sorry for confusion...but most people want it there only...lets see how it goes in the end

    By Blogger worma, at 02:08  

  • yea neo I saw that there too :)

    By Blogger worma, at 02:08  

  • i vote for the blog

    By Blogger Ashvin Iyengar, at 02:08  

  • This is better than DG

    By Blogger Shekhar Kale, at 02:08  

  • if anyone cares to listen, the discussion group thing is too damn heavy and slow. i try to post to it there are already 2 more replies and it asks me if i want to review ... i say 'post' again and there are again 4 more replies and i get caught in a vicious circle ... granted my internet conncection is not the best .. but im not exactly on dialup either ... plz cud someone look into this ? is there any way one could get past this 'x replies have been posted while u were reading. Do you wish to review ?' business ????

    By Blogger GK, at 02:08  

  • So eager to see VS in the middle order today, it might be the start of a new ODI role for him.

    By Blogger Mount_Cleverest, at 02:08  

  • Alright, so we are here? See you guys in a while.

    By Blogger Prem Panicker, at 02:08  

  • one can post all teh features on how to use teh Discussion group in blog and then it might be easier for eevrybody ...
    Let us stick in blog till the end of SL series and decide where to go for SA series

    By Blogger rajesh, at 02:10  

  • Let GG open today

    By Blogger Shekhar Kale, at 02:10  

  • worma,
    most people want it in a blog .........
    just see teh comments on blog mate ...

    By Blogger rajesh, at 02:10  

  • GG would surely open, the question is with whom??

    SRT or VS??

    By Blogger Mount_Cleverest, at 02:11  

  • is anyne else not bothered by the same problem of getting posts thru on the dg ? either get rid of the 'you may need to review your post' thing or shift it here for GOds sake

    By Blogger GK, at 02:11  

  • Worma..

    That was a bit uneasy. esp since comments were on diff pages. Is it not possible to set up a chat interface. At least out here all coments are on one window, albeit a lenghty one

    By Blogger V Menon, at 02:11  

  • prem....am totally confused :)...people are pitching for both forums :))...dunno how to resolve

    By Blogger worma, at 02:11  

  • VS is captain .. he will not give up his place ..

    By Blogger Shekhar Kale, at 02:12  

  • Here or there? Blog or DG??? Help where are you folks?

    By Blogger FineLeg, at 02:12  

  • DG spawns off multiple threads .. we can't follow all the comments

    By Blogger Shekhar Kale, at 02:12  

  • v menon, gk and others...ofcourse the DG is an experiment...but how would we know the problems unless we use it....ofcourse we would need to list down the issues and arjun can work on them....so please bear with it for now

    By Blogger worma, at 02:12  

  • worma: Let's stay put here. :-)

    Will mail you tomorrow about some developments.

    By Blogger Prem Panicker, at 02:13  

  • Worma,
    I guess you may get 50-50% split. You decide on ONE and then make it the FINAL ONE for tonight please. NO MORE CHANGES.
    ThiS BLOG IS SIMPLE. So, you can keep it HERE>

    By Blogger FineLeg, at 02:13  

  • Here here here hear

    By Blogger Shekhar Kale, at 02:13  

  • worma,
    I thought most of us comfort using the blog than DG.

    By Blogger Bala Murali, at 02:13  

  • Worma..you are the skipper..take your call mate!!


    By Blogger Mount_Cleverest, at 02:13  

  • i repeat - if we are to be on the DG pleeeeeeeeeaaaaaaasssssssssse get rid of the 'review post' otherwise im not able to post a single post

    By Blogger GK, at 02:13  

  • Blog scores over DG since it is simple, least dressed like a young women who needs less or least decoration for adoring the beauty (& like a speach, long enough to cover the point but short enough to attract the attention, quickly)

    By Blogger papugopu, at 02:14  

  • LOL @ gk

    your frustration is apparent!!!

    By Blogger Mount_Cleverest, at 02:14  

  • Come Guys Worma and Prem.......why dont you all decide on what to use and then simply disable the other one......that all of us are forced to use one thing. This concensus thing can be held later.

    Be our leader and show us the way

    By Blogger rahul_fan, at 02:14  

  • Here.

    By Blogger Bala Murali, at 02:14  

  • The DG was a good experiment but it is difficult to keep track of postings there. Too many mouse-clicks and navigation to do to read thru a thread.

    But like worma pointed out, we would not know what it would be like unless we try it out.

    By Blogger Kannan, at 02:15  

  • ok we are staying here sorry for the confusion....but finally we stay put....and those rooting for DG...we can decide after the match...we can atleast bear for one more innings...and then decide? cool?

    By Blogger worma, at 02:15  

  • ok .. now that DG is is out of way .. let's talk some cricket

    By Blogger Shekhar Kale, at 02:16  

  • cool..yeah!

    By Blogger Mount_Cleverest, at 02:16  

  • And just in case I get blocked, will in any event be doing the 5-over blocks on the main blog as individual posts. We can resolve all this after we test out a Rediff interface we are working on; I should have news for you guys on that before the end of the week.

    By Blogger Prem Panicker, at 02:17  

  • so we are here !!!

    By Blogger Rishi, at 02:17  

  • Surprised that SL sub'd Zoysa instead of Fernando. i thot he was way better in the last game, can also use the long handle better then Fernando.

    By Blogger Mount_Cleverest, at 02:18  

  • read "speech" instead of speach on my prev.post

    Trust bloggers will vote DG out and retain this lean, mean, mentally and physically fit blog (your guess is right term borrowed from GC at undisclosed deal)

    By Blogger papugopu, at 02:18  

  • great !!! so now what are the odds on SRT scoring #39 today ? or at least 80+ not out ?

    By Blogger GK, at 02:18  

  • I think we should have -
    .. whoever

    By Blogger Shekhar Kale, at 02:18  

  • thanks Prem!!

    So who will open today?
    ST/VS or SG/GG?

    By Blogger Rishi, at 02:18  

  • worma, less not mess with a winning combination - this blog is good - we don't need bench strength:)

    By Blogger Ashvin Iyengar, at 02:18  

  • prem, any idea why ppl get blocked and who might be behind it ?

    By Blogger GK, at 02:19  

  • ashvin LOL :)....ok no experimentation...lets not get cocky ;)

    me outta here for some while atleast...damn..I'm late!

    By Blogger worma, at 02:20  

  • Prem,
    Good to hear about that rediff interface. Please ask your guys to keep it simple. If it can refresh itself (like cricbuzz does) that will be better. May be things like AJAX+Javascript may help in that.

    By Blogger Bala Murali, at 02:20  

  • yay!!
    thank god everyone is coming back here.
    technopeasants such as myself find the whole blog idea hard enough!! let alone figuring out how to use the discussion group!!

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 02:20  

  • batting lineup should be:

    YS (if he fails then SR)

    i think that gives stability in the middle as RD is not there today and SRT can control the middle innings

    By Blogger rahul_fan, at 02:22  

  • guyz,

    just wanted to check whether any-one has streaming issues with willow.tv ? My internet connection is pretty good. but getting frequent buffering problems !


    By Blogger thirdempire, at 02:22  

  • Guys watching/listening ... how is pitch holding up ? Help for spinners ?

    By Blogger Shekhar Kale, at 02:22  

  • Prem,
    If a chat interface could be set up when you do the Rediff thing, will be great

    By Blogger Neelan, at 02:22  

  • i think raina shud come one down - he deserves a chance

    By Blogger Ashvin Iyengar, at 02:24  

  • rahul ..
    Why bring up YS at 3 ?
    More chances ?

    Why not bring in MD, and reduce target ?

    By Blogger Shekhar Kale, at 02:24  

  • Guys,

    Are they hiding Murali for the test, so he doesn't get exposed now.

    any comments

    By Blogger krishkannan, at 02:24  

  • batting lineup should be:

    YS (if he fails then SR)

    i think that gives stability in the middle as RD is not there today and SRT can control the middle innings.

    also if Yuvi fails now, he can pack his bags and stand in line.

    By Blogger rahul_fan, at 02:25  

  • how long before they start again>?

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 02:25  

  • ashvin,

    I think if it is chance thing then let SRT come in the end, let others - YS, SSR, .. and don't forget MK - strong candidate for #3

    By Blogger Shekhar Kale, at 02:25  

  • exposed? it's the 6th odi. the indians have hade enough of a look-see...
    i dont know how you over-expose a bowler like murali anyway

    By Blogger Dhruv Deepak, at 02:25  

  • batting order:
    SRT,VS,GG and later match situation.

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 02:26  

  • @ shekar
    dude i want him at 3 to see how he does.......to sperate the chaff form the wheat. We can do that only if we let him play and not give him a reason for excuse.

    By Blogger rahul_fan, at 02:26  

  • Guys am a relatively new blogger. I have been in the US for a while and started up following the local sports here while still following track. With the indian team starting to play well and a good deal on sstreams i started watching Cricket.

    As it is i am spending time wtching sports for quiet a while.

    Added to this am getting married in a month.

    Any married bloggers care to give a piece of advice on how to get through this once i get married.

    Right now i can accept the fact i look really sleepy the following day at work but things are going to change pretty soon...

    :) :) :)

    By Blogger getsrid, at 02:28  

  • @ yacrik,

    we cant afford to put all our eggs in one basket dude. You want the best players (SRT, VS and GG) to be 1, 2 and 3.......not good

    By Blogger rahul_fan, at 02:28  

  • rahul ..
    5 matches gone, we are still watching him ..

    By Blogger Shekhar Kale, at 02:29  

  • Murali has been rested for these reasons:

    1. Indians were not taking chances against him; and he was not that useful without wickets.

    2. fielding was bad - and gave away 10-15 extra runs; so his bowling figures should be "credited" with another 12 runs.

    3. can't bat - so add another few runs to his bowling figure.

    overall, in the bigger scheme of things Murali don't need to be in the ODI team when playing India.

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 02:29  

  • @ shekhar

    yeah we need to watch him and make sure we dont have to watch him any more if he is not up to the mark.

    By Blogger rahul_fan, at 02:30  

  • In India, You cant watch cricket easily. Sometimes cable dosnt work on other electricity goes for hours. Anyway Hello folks from some net-cafe in small town India :)

    By Blogger Vick, at 02:34  

  • When are we starting the play ?

    By Blogger Shekhar Kale, at 02:34  

  • Prem says "there's been just three extras in the Lankan innings, and that is very very good going."

    oh man what a revealation this has been ! 3 extras is a very good thing! guys , the great mystery has been resolved; it is a great thing when only 3 extra are given!

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 02:34  

  • I think Murali is a smart bowler and only wicket taker.

    Vaas is a wicket taker as well but none others.

    Excluding a wicket taker is odd

    By Blogger krishkannan, at 02:35  

  • yacrik,
    That is awesome ! Time to forget ZK

    By Blogger Shekhar Kale, at 02:35  

  • why are you being so sarcastic about the extras dude?

    By Blogger rahul_fan, at 02:36  

  • Ideally:

    VS, GG, YS, MK, SR, SRT, MD, IP, HS, MK, RPS..this way 4 of top 5 get a chance to get into the groove for SA...

    By Blogger The Straighter Neo, at 02:36  

  • 3 extras UNBELIEVABLE

    By Blogger krishkannan, at 02:37  

  • This just came to my mind that i can watch the game here in India on SS too sitting here in netcafe. SS ki Jai Ho :))

    By Blogger Vick, at 02:37  

  • Prem really excited by the descipline on the field- isn't he...
    take it easy guys.. need to take good and bad without too much over reaction!

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 02:37  

  • neo,
    I wonder why YS needs to be up there, he has failed time and again at #3

    By Blogger Shekhar Kale, at 02:38  

  • As batsmen, this match is going to be a test for VS,YS and MK

    By Blogger krishkannan, at 02:38  

  • i want to see how good SR and Yuvi are today.......i want to see them perform, especially for SR cuz he looks like he has a good head on shoulders
    and Yuvi just cuz he hasnt fired in a long time and is due a big one.......his recent centuries have been against weaker teams like WI (second string) and Zim........so he has to show his worth.

    By Blogger rahul_fan, at 02:40  

  • shekhar, I agree he has failed and I too believe his best spot is at #6, but he needs to get some runs under his belt before SA...if he bats at 6 today, he may not get that chance....

    By Blogger The Straighter Neo, at 02:40  

  • I would like to see SRT open, not sure if he is gotten in the groove yet.

    By Blogger krish, at 02:40  

  • hey the last wicket when RP knocked Chandana , did anyone note the speed of that delivery ?

    By Blogger Adi, at 02:40  

  • neo,
    Sure .. and since Murali is not around, he got a good chance

    By Blogger Shekhar Kale, at 02:41  

  • Vaas wud take SRt if he opens

    By Blogger krishkannan, at 02:42  

  • yacrik,
    when we bitch like mad when they screw up i think its fine if we go a little overboard when they are doing well. if you have some personal beef with prem why bring it here?
    just asimple request. upto to you to take it or ignore it.

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 02:43  

  • yacrik: and your problem with that post would be what precisely mate? What, India are doing well, so no chance to tee off on the team, you look for another target? *L*

    By Blogger Prem Panicker, at 02:44  

  • I think that yacrik guy has a real attitude problem.

    By Blogger rahul_fan, at 02:46  

  • ST with GG to Open.

    By Blogger Rishi, at 02:47  

  • SRT and GG ?? VS is tired ? :-)

    By Blogger Shekhar Kale, at 02:47  

  • k-slice:
    You think 3 extra is a part of long term trend? it is just one-off bizzare thing to have happened. 3 is too low ! let us see in the next few matches!

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 02:47  

  • Okay GG & SRT to open. :)

    By Blogger Oracle Guy, at 02:47  

  • oh no.......SRT should have come at 4.......he is too stubborn, why wanst he convinced to go down? for the sake of the team

    By Blogger rahul_fan, at 02:47  

  • 3 extras, two runouts. Amazing fielding Display. Should be lauded.

    By Blogger fangorn, at 02:47  

  • Yacrick - having a bad day mate, eh ?

    By Blogger Oracle Guy, at 02:48  

  • yacrik: did i say it was part of a trend? How come if the team concedes 20 extras, it is okay to point that out loud and long, but not the reverse?

    By Blogger Prem Panicker, at 02:48  

  • four!

    By Blogger Rishi, at 02:49  

  • I think it is commendable to have only 3 extras.

    It doesn;t matter if it is consistent trent still it is good improvement atleast today.

    By Blogger krishkannan, at 02:49  

  • oh yeah SRT to open - expect an 80 not out today if not hundred #39

    By Blogger GK, at 02:50  

  • Prem : One more difference between Game 5 and 6 has been Harbhajan I believe. Dilshan was stroking freely till Harbhajan came on. He immediately started with a Maiden and built the pressure. We could have easily won the game 5 if Harbhajan was there in the side.

    By Blogger fangorn, at 02:50  

  • I have no problem with the post itself (if I had , I would not be reading it).
    my reaction to 3 is that is one of those things that happen like lightning and should be dealt with as such; there is nothing much the fielding side can do for leg byes - if get hit on pad,,, what do we do?

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 02:50  

  • ok yacrik
    i agree that 3 extras is miserly. but dude have you not noticed overall standards of this team are going up? our fielding is awesome, batting good etc etc. name one team, including aus who consistently bowl without giving extras? youi cant. so why not praise them when they have bowled well, be it even by fluke.
    dude there is a limit of how pessimisitc one can be. nxt we will start moaning that they made 196,i guess gripers like you would want them to have gotten out for 50 runs and then for us to make it in 3 overs,.
    dude chill out .

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 02:51  

  • GG is rushing to get his runs in before SRT starts

    By Blogger Shekhar Kale, at 02:51  

  • flexibity in batting lineup should apply to all players........i am not impressed that SRT has stuck to the No.1 spot.

    By Blogger rahul_fan, at 02:51  

  • what ppl are forgetting is throughtout this series extras have been relatively less - i was at the stadium in pune and i noted we hardly bowled a no-ball - corect me if im wrong but we bowled zero - it is indeed creditable

    By Blogger GK, at 02:52  

  • Guys lets stop talking about the extras and lets just move on

    By Blogger getsrid, at 02:52  

  • SL under the cosh

    By Blogger SHRI, at 02:52  

  • prem - no u did not say it is part of a long time trend;
    I'm saying that on my own that it is not; byes are a bad thing - but again if pitch offers extra bounce and wayward turn , what can we do? do we find fault with the fielding side? no we should not

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 02:53  

  • funnily enough i called this earlier today. i had a feeling VS would not open. he has been making similar noises about not wanting to open tests either. i remember SG had shoved his foot down VS's throat the last time he had made those noises.

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 02:53  

  • yacrik: I seem to remember mentioning bowling discipline in context of the extras. You, I notice, picked on leg byes. How about no balls and wides, which we used to be pretty prodigal with? Cutting that down doesnt merit mention, you think? you know best.

    By Blogger Prem Panicker, at 02:53  

  • i agree with fangorn entirely - harbhajan seems to have dilshan under control

    By Blogger GK, at 02:54  

  • if the pitch offers extra bounce and turn that is a good reason to overstep? um, sorry, didnt think of it that way. this is getting a tad ridiculous, am off to watch the game

    By Blogger Prem Panicker, at 02:54  

  • SRT GG MK VS YS MSD SR ..... interesting lineup.... with MK being the lone guy who can anchor the innings

    By Blogger SHRI, at 02:54  

  • ans now GG gets into the act.... how many dashers does a team need :))

    By Blogger SHRI, at 02:56  

  • guys i dont rememebr who it was but in one of the games every game was punctuated with a BANG!! here. that really helped me keep track of the score.
    can whoever was doing that restart it? cant have too many windows open since my boss is a sharkesque human who can sniff slacking from a mile away

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 02:56  

  • IS SS working folks?

    By Blogger Vick, at 02:56  

  • Shri
    All that are out there :-)

    By Blogger Shekhar Kale, at 02:56  

  • k-slice

    losing now did that...i'll try if he is not around

    By Blogger Jiet, at 02:57  

  • BANG!

    By Blogger Jiet, at 02:57  

  • hahahah
    thanks jiet!

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 02:58  

  • Prem Bhai,

    Pitch offering extra bounce and turn can lead to BYES !!...
    That was the point yacrik mentioning...

    Lets leave the point here and move on..

    By Blogger Medium_Fast_LegSpin, at 02:58  

  • lol mate.... carry this form against the Pakis and the Poms and we can actually start dreaming of the World Cup

    By Blogger SHRI, at 02:58  

  • This is in response to gk's comment about Indian media in a different thread
    well said. Indian media is very juvenile and fickle, just like the mob on the street. And they are feeding this mob mentality into millions of homes every day.

    I think India can become a champion team that can even beat Australia if we make all Indian pitches "competetive" and "sporting" both at the International and domestic level, ie, there should be something in them for both the batsmen and the bowler. Why?
    - By making only "patta" wickets, you will never know how good your batsmen really are because everyone will be scoring runs. Your bench strength starts looking good only to be exposed when they go play on good "balanced" pitches abroad.
    - Similarly, only "bowling" pitches (dustbowl or totally green) should be discouraged as well where all a bowler has to do is just pitch the ball in the right spot and let the pitch do the rest. On a good "balanced" pitch, really good batsmen will score runs and really good bowlers will take wickets.
    - Playing the moving/swinging ball is a talent that is inborn and cannot be taught (one can only nurture what you have in your nature, not the other way round). By having domestic Ranji/Duleep matches on such pitches will ensure that we pick the guys who have such talent at the early stage before they are ready for the international level.

    Though the one of the reasons for dishing out such patta wickets is not difficult to fathom. MONEY. Yes, more the fireworks when India bats, more the enthusiasm in the crowd and advertisers and more the money flows into BCCI coffers. This is a short sighted vision of BCCI that will bite them in the behind later. Have they heard of "law of diminishing returns"? The more they "feed" the crowd with such "laddus", the more they are gonna "puke" later :-) Earlier 250 used to be a good competetive total but these days even 300+ is not a guarantee for victory.

    And what has Indian media been doing? They could have created awareness among general public that the kind of pitch may have also played a huge role in the century that an India batsman just hit. Either they are totally stupid and don't understand simple things about cricket or they have also preferred to play to the gallery and make more money in the process. Who really wants to change the system when they can milk it today to make more money with the least amount of effort (path of least resistance)?

    By Blogger Deepak, at 02:59  

  • I though VS would open to get into some kind of form. May be GG should have come 1 down.

    By Blogger fangorn, at 02:59  

  • vick, yes

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 02:59  

  • prem: yes, u got a valid point on NB,WD; let us see if it was one-off , hope not;

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 02:59  

  • deepak, agree

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 02:59  

  • vick,it is working for me

    By Blogger Ashvin Iyengar, at 03:00  

  • yacrik: Ditto, mate. I hope they keep this up -- the discipline with the ball, the flat out effort in the field, the hitting the stumps more often than not; we used to complain about the team not doing these things; I find an effort being made now, I get excited. Then again, there's no secret to this -- as far as my team goes, I am a fan. Period. Love it when we do well, hate it when we play like dorks.

    By Blogger Prem Panicker, at 03:00  

  • Looking at the pitch and the Indian batting line-up, SL would have thought anything less than 300 is chaseable. They went for broke at the start and lost wickets. Every time they tried to hit out, they lost wickets.

    By Blogger siddhu, at 03:01  

  • Looking at the pitch and the Indian batting line-up, SL would have thought anything less than 300 is chaseable. They went for broke at the start and lost wickets. Every time they tried to hit out, they lost wickets.

    By Blogger siddhu, at 03:01  

  • let us cut the cr.. on extras and enjoy some batting; later!

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 03:01  

  • Tx Ashwin. damm seems like this sify iway netcafe thing doesnt let you watch video streams. Life sucks here in India. You cant even watch cricket. :(

    By Blogger Vick, at 03:02  

  • BANG!

    By Blogger Jiet, at 03:02  

  • point well made Deepak.. But if you have been following the scores of the Indian Domestic season over the last few seasons, there has been a drastic reduction in scoring rates.. Gone are the days when a batsman could score a thousand before lunch and a couple more after...

    And it is not that the quality of btsmanship is diminishing.. Now can similar wickets be made for Tests and ODIc. The last time that was done (Nagpur against Oz), the only ones complaining were us...

    By Blogger SHRI, at 03:03  

  • Pulled for four. no ball called

    By Blogger Jiet, at 03:03  

  • Can anybody tell how to view the match on Video Stream? Thanks.

    By Blogger fangorn, at 03:03  

  • is GG turning out to be a reliable coustomer....the commentator says he wasnt in control of the pull.......i am begining to wonder if he is reliable or just goes for wild shots?

    any body who is watching can please tell me their views

    By Blogger rahul_fan, at 03:03  

  • Comon Prem you are forgetting to add one more thing. This team of yours is not being lead by your pet peev.

    By Blogger Vick, at 03:04  

  • i love this guy..Gambhir!

    By Blogger Mount_Cleverest, at 03:04  

  • rahul_fan, GG just a tad late, but comfortably in control. That was well done.

    By Blogger king2k2, at 03:04  

  • one through covers, one over point, a tickle to fine leg, a pull over square...GG has an interesting wagin wheel

    By Blogger SHRI, at 03:04  

  • vick: not a particularly good try. i celebrated when we won under SG, applauded his brilliant knocks; unlike some who used to be so active posting on this blog, and have suddenly dried up.

    By Blogger Prem Panicker, at 03:05  

  • There was no deep square leg so the pull shot was always going to be safe.

    Gambhir is an instinctive puller though

    By Blogger Jiet, at 03:05  

  • Looks like Gambhir is doing all the batting.

    By Blogger fangorn, at 03:06  

  • GG does appear to be equally strong on both off and leg side, talking about wagon wheels...unlike some other left handers we have had..

    By Blogger Mount_Cleverest, at 03:06  

  • Interesting field arrangement for Tendulkar by Vaas...Slip and a short cover right in his face. Reminds me of a long time ago when Ranatunga would set a short midwicket for Tendlya...

    By Blogger Multy, at 03:07  

  • LOL Prem on that dried up thing.....
    Where r dadagiri, mock_turtle etc hiding?

    By Blogger Yeda_Yakub, at 03:07  

  • GG shoo-in on bouncier tracks?

    By Blogger SHRI, at 03:07  

  • in fact, I'd prefer there be *no* fielding restrictions in one dayers, besides the basics (i.e. no bodyline fields, etc.) I think getting rid of the fielding restrictions would provide more scope for variety, different strategies, and make the game much less predictable and more interesting.

    really love gambhir's attitude and shot-selection. read gavaskar's column about how Gambhir developed his game from the year 2000?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 03:07  

  • GG is aggressive OK, but he alos needs to be reliable........i just wanted to know that......you know like adam gilchrist....is aggressive and reliable while gayle isnt.....so i just wanted to know where GG stands

    By Blogger rahul_fan, at 03:08  

  • Roublen..you have the link to the Gavaskar article?

    By Blogger Mount_Cleverest, at 03:08  

  • Well Prem may be that was in ancient times. But good that your team and your dear friend is doing well. Though only time will tell for how long and i am sure you will bring out the knife for the friend dearest too when things start going downhill. Right?

    By Blogger Vick, at 03:09  

  • Vick - common on man, let us acknowledge that RD is the best guy to lead right now and SG doesn't deserve to be in the team and trust me I have supported Ganguly more than anyone on this forum. ;)

    Also have a blog for Ganguly bashers - dont-hate-ganguly.blogspot.com

    By Blogger Oracle Guy, at 03:09  

  • Roublen,
    Post the link pls

    By Blogger Yeda_Yakub, at 03:09  

  • Santh's bowling so far:

    4 matches, 32 overs 195 runs 4 wickets which works out to 6.2 an over.

    10-0-57-0 Sri Lanka run rate 5.2, Santh 5.7
    5.4-0-39-2 (Dilhara, Murali) Sri Lanka run rate 3.92, Santh 7.0
    8-2-49-1 (Tharanga) Sri Lanka run rate 5.2, Santh 6.1
    8-0-50-1 (Jayasuriya) Sri Lanka run rate 3.92, Santh 6.2

    CLEARLY early days, but stats make me wince.

    By Blogger TFFY, at 03:09  

  • Prem,
    You used the word "dorks" which was a favorite of your ex colleague Varsha Bhosle. Wonder where she is and what she is doing. I liked her writing a lot. Of course, very provocative

    By Blogger Reverse Sweep, at 03:09  

  • Some behenchod blcoked me.. I dont know what happiness it provides to them.. Cant stand such pathetic losers..

    But have found a way.. so they will have to block me again and again..

    By Blogger Thanks Chappel, at 03:09  

  • here


    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 03:10  

  • I think GG has the temperament for the game...Better bet compared to VS to open.. And with VS and MSD down the order.. Suddenly YS will be feeling the heat

    By Blogger SHRI, at 03:10  

  • Vick... U r directly attacking Prem's character... Disgusting !!
    Pray tell what advantage he is getting out of it?

    By Blogger Yeda_Yakub, at 03:10  

  • vick: Ah -- good, you said it yourself. In other words, I will criticize 'my dear friend', by whom I presume you mean Rahul Dravid, if the team and he are not doing well?

    Cool, I will admit to it and live by it -- I'd much rather criticize, or praise, on results rather than blindly chant someone's name like a mantra.

    You are right, pal, all the way -- that is exactly what I will do. And if it is a crime to critize when the team plays badly, cool, guilty as charged

    By Blogger Prem Panicker, at 03:11  

  • TC - any idea how this happens? Prem - any description of how you get blocked?

    By Blogger TFFY, at 03:11  

  • reverse: Donno, haven't heard from her in a while. Some four months back she was in the US, we kept missing each other mainly coz she was in and out of NY all the time, never stayed put

    By Blogger Prem Panicker, at 03:12  

  • Prem,
    Plz ignore Achin or whoever.He/she isn't worthy of any attention.Its plain and simple--is attention hungry and hence the aggresive style of writing.
    Empty vessels can only make...:))
    Enjoy the game!

    By Blogger sunny, at 03:12  

  • tffy: there's this chap on the other blog post, the one on singles, merrily threatening me with the block. Ask him, pal, he shoudl know

    By Blogger Prem Panicker, at 03:13  

  • GG is awsome .. keeping RR above 6 with no apparent risky shots

    By Blogger Shekhar Kale, at 03:13  

  • SRt seems to be planning for 85 ball 50

    By Blogger krishkannan, at 03:13  

  • sunny: Oh, no worries, I'm enjoying the game all the way, what the hell, willingly giving up sleep so's I can watch :-)

    By Blogger Prem Panicker, at 03:13  

  • Yeda take it easy. Dont get too angry. Enjoy the game.
    And Oracle yeah sure i agree with first part of yours not the second one. And my comment still stands. I need to see how some RD supporters react when things start going downhill.

    By Blogger Vick, at 03:13  

  • GG looking good. Pitch looks flat. Nowhere near two-paced/sluggish.

    By Blogger siddhu, at 03:14  

  • thanks prem.if you know any place where she is writing pls do mention.

    By Blogger Reverse Sweep, at 03:14  

  • Prem - didn't mean it offensively. Was wondering if there is something that can be done to prevent this nonsense. I have a good friend who wrote blogger code, hence asked. What happens when you try logging in?

    By Blogger TFFY, at 03:14  

  • vick: and why do people have to be supporters of individual players? Why could it not be that a lot of us just want the team doing well, and it doesn't matter a damn whether RD leads it, or Sreeshanth for that matter?

    By Blogger Prem Panicker, at 03:15  

  • Well, do you guys think Tendulkar's role has changed for this match? Sheet anchor, ala Dravid?

    By Blogger CricLover, at 03:15  

  • Any guesses about number 3?
    My guess is YS again.

    By Blogger fangorn, at 03:16  

  • Guys like SRT gets all the planning time of the opposition.. look how Vaas is plotting..

    and others prosper..

    By Blogger Thanks Chappel, at 03:16  

  • RD .. sheet anchor ? The guy who scores at the rate of 100+ ?
    Come on ..

    By Blogger Shekhar Kale, at 03:16  

  • Vick thats ridiculous...as long as the criticism is objective, Ganguli, Dravid or whoever, one should appreciate it. No personal attacks. I have been reading Prem since 1996 and for me he is still the guy who makes a lot of sense

    By Blogger Reverse Sweep, at 03:16  

  • tffy: Invariably, after a few posts, I'd be blocked. I'd get a message here saying Comments have been disabled on this post

    I did speak to the blogger guys, and they wanted me to alert them real time when it happened -- trick though is, since our games are in the US night, those guys are never around, so I quit worrying.

    The simple option was to just move the blog to our own servers at REdiff, use RadioLand or Movable Type or whatever, but it didn't matter that much for me to make the effort, so let it be

    By Blogger Prem Panicker, at 03:16  

  • thought Zoysa was one of their best bowler after Vaas and Murali. Not sure why he has been supersubbed.
    Prem, you think he is not completely fit or he is really not their best bowler after Vaas/Murali.

    By Blogger siddhu, at 03:16  

  • Naah Prem their is huge difference between critisizing someone's unability of playnig short ones and blaming(knifing) them to picking the players because the said player was their brother-in-law. I am pretty sure we will hear same stories from you once RD down in the dust.

    By Blogger Vick, at 03:17  

  • yay.. SRT off the blocks

    By Blogger SHRI, at 03:17  

  • Overall the TEAM is doing well.

    SG of today is not required

    By Blogger krishkannan, at 03:17  

  • Looks like SRT is happy to play second fiddle.Seems more keen to help the youngster out and also spend some valuable time in the middle.
    But,maan...would love to see him blast the bowlers.7 off 17 is not SRT stuff:((.See ball,hit ball--SRT!!!

    By Blogger sunny, at 03:17  

  • thanks for giving that link for gavaskar post........i was looking all over the web for his columns after prem recently mentioned his double standards on the blog.

    By Blogger rahul_fan, at 03:18  

  • Criclover - Please..no more SRT Bhakti here. If the guy is struggling, we claim that he is playing the anchor role..Please I dont want to listen to another Tendulkar story of how he was guiding Gambhir and blah blah blah ..

    Anyways superb 4 by him ;)

    By Blogger Oracle Guy, at 03:19  

  • Sure PP everyone wants the Team to do that. SG isnt my relative that i want him employed for eternity. And i dont argue when people talk about his unability to play the short ones. But you know that there is more to it when you start blaming the guy for tons of other stuff happened during his reign.

    By Blogger Vick, at 03:19  

  • SL innings analysis:
    I think they goofed up big time today on a true patta wicket. What should have been a 300+ total, SL could manage only 200 - atleast a 100 short of a respectable total. Instead of saying it was only bad batting, I would give most of the credit to RP Singh today. He took wickets at the right moments to put pressure on SL batsmen. He can bounce and move the ball even on a flat track. The ball on which he took wicket of Upul Chandana was probably the best a medium pacer has bowled this series. This guy will go a long way.

    And let's go a little soft on Sreesanth. He has been a little expensive but we should look at it in the context of pitches. What, Vaas has been going at 6.35+ this series. I know many are already saying that Vaas is suddenly "out of form" but I will bet that he is bowling the same as before. Remember Martyn's "loss of form" in Ashes and what he said after that - "I have been playing the same way and with the same form that I hit 1200+ runs last year, its just that English bowling was better this time".

    By Blogger Deepak, at 03:20  

  • Zoyza doing the SHUTup CROWD stuff when Dhoni got out didn't look good.

    He shud be given back in runsin this match, if he had played.

    By Blogger krishkannan, at 03:20  

  • SLankans always used to be better fielders and a more disciplined outfit..

    But things have turned around remarkably..

    Thanks Chappel.

    By Blogger Thanks Chappel, at 03:20  

  • oracle
    Struggling ?? He is middling all the balls he is playing.
    Taking apropriate singles to get GG strike ... no one calls that struggling ..

    By Blogger Shekhar Kale, at 03:20  

  • gambhir reminds me of michael slater. re: how solid he is, he doesn't look particularly solid, does he? In terms of timing the ball, hand-eye coordination etc. he might not have as much talent as some other players. But he backs himself, looks to attack the short ball, is a 100% team player (even in the Challengers), and so far has been exactly what team India needs in a batsman

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 03:20  

  • vick: that old chestnut? you've brought it up half a dozen times, and I've replied to it as many times. Now it's gotten beyond being boring. BTW, you need to go to the India-SL series in SL, see some of the comments you made about the team and the captain, and see if you want to live with those comments now. Ah fish, forget it -- this kind of squabbling is pointless, I am out of here; what you think I will do in a hypothetical situation is your call, and welcome

    By Blogger Prem Panicker, at 03:20  

  • Prem.. Query for you.. For all intents and purposes, SG will not make a comeback to the ODI team. I think we need not sweat on that.. But what about Test Cricket? On form and fitness, there is no way the selectors can keep SG out.. So are we entering an era of having two skippers for the two formats of the game?

    By Blogger SHRI, at 03:21  

  • Sigh. Gambhir played on...

    By Blogger Multy, at 03:21  

  • damn

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 03:21  

  • vick: sorry, had enough of this stuff. SG is in no way involved with this game, this series -- you are welcome to bring him up for any or no reason, but I'll pass

    By Blogger Prem Panicker, at 03:22  

  • oh oh GG out !!

    By Blogger GK, at 03:22  

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