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Sunday, November 20, 2005

Winning the Lottery(-worma)

..called Shahid Afridi. That's what it is with him, isn't it. He came when Pak were looking to regroup, and what does he do? Tonk three boundaries of the first four balls he faced :-)
Afridi is well known for his big hitting, of course, but the ferocity of his onslaught surprised everyone because Pakistan's priority was to steadily and patiently bat England out of the game.
This from Jonathan Agnew's report for the day. No doubt his game in fun to watch, but it makes better entertainment when built on a platform. As it was today, after that wonderful partnership between Mohd Yousuf and Inzy.
His calm and resolute partnership of 128 with Yousuf provided the perfect platform for Afridi to launch his attack. Dancing to the crease without a care in the world, he treated all of the English bowlers with disdain and contempt; he scored 12 runs in his first four balls, and raced uninhibitedly to fifty from 46 balls
This from Will's bulletin on cricinfo.
But what of Yousuf himself? Played with such indiscretion last time around that Inzy had to officially come to his defence, and then he comes up with this gem today! And that too prematurely ended by a dubious decision, caught off Bell
Yousuf airily drove back to Bell, who dived low and took a fine catch - or, at least, it appeared to be. The replay proved inconclusive.
Well, to me he looked not-out, the catch not clean. But the bigger point is, it wasn't even referred to the t.v umpire! Talk of using more technology. His innings is the centerpiece of Osman's review of the day at cricinfo, and it does seem that his approach at Multan hasn't gone un-noticed, behind the scenes as well
Somewhere between Multan and Faisalabad, a paisa seems to have dropped. Mohammad Yousuf's first 57 minutes at the crease today - from three minutes past eleven till lunch - fetched him less runs than his 19-minute stay in the second innings at Multan. Pressure here had two sources; not only were Pakistan teetering as they were in Multan, Yousuf's own performance was under enhanced scrutiny. Yet as a template to start an innings under such circumstances, it was as exemplary as it has been rare, and one that should be referred to through his career

Fletcher can go ahead and praise his bowlers for working hard on a flat track, but if they don't control this pair in the first hour tomorrow, or if they let Pak pass 400 in the innings, they may as well say goodbye to that series win.
"But credit to the bowlers, they tried very hard on a flat wicket." "At one stage we got three wickets for a reasonably low score. We could have got through them but we didn't and we still have a lot of work to do."

And here's Andrew Miller's view from the English side...he give due importance to that slip from Vaughan when he spilled an easy chance off Afridi at 34.
Vaughan was in more or less the same position that Kevin Pietersen had been occupying when he spilled his infamous chance off Michael Clarke at Lord's last summer. And then, as now, the upshot was a bout of intense pyrotechnics. "It's unfortunate, but now and again a catch will go down," said Duncan Fletcher afterwards, as he attempted to put a brave face on a difficult day. But there was no escaping the significance of Vaughan's slip. At 245 for 5, England would have been a new-ball burst away from exposing the Pakistani tail. At 300 for 4, on the other hand, with Afridi going like the clappers, the more likely scenario was that the new ball itself would burst.
And also touches on the ineffectiveness of the English spinners.
Today Giles was carted for four sixes in his first eight overs - and that was before Afridi had even put his whites on. Given the murmurings about the hip condition that may force him to miss the one-day series, Giles's inability to hold up an end is a concern for England. "The ball's hardly spun, even Shane [sic] Udal has struggled to spin it," added Fletcher afterwards. It is debatable whether Kaneria will find the same problems.
Although IMO this was always on the cards when their pacers were not at their best.

Update: Couldn't resist this one...from Osman's take on Afridi's game today..
With tongue wedged firmly in cheek, another asked whether he can ever play defensively to which he replied, earnestly, no. "Even if someone was to offer you a million dollars?" A little pause, a smile, then, "maybe." But even then, implied the smile, you wouldn't bet on it.


  • Hayden reaches 1000 runs in a calender year for the 5th straight year in a row...what a player!

    By Blogger Dark Nights, at 18:59  

  • http://foxsports.news.com.au/story/0,8659,17312396-23212,00.html

    Latif wants Bell banned


    Waugh thinks Brain should retire.
    "Physically, I was reasonably fit but in my last season with NSW I noticed I had slowed up a little in the field, dropped a few more catches and my desire to make big runs had waned.

    It was time to retire and allow some fresh legs to take my place."

    He says as if he retired voluntarily. Hah!

    Martin Johnson on Afridi.


    Angus Fraser:


    Saurav Ganguly wont play at Kolkata or Bombay but will be in the 15 selected for the 1st Test. LP Sahi:


    BBCI election news:

    Same 11 for Chennai:

    Players unhappy over Pak tour:

    Chennai snippets:

    By Blogger Dark Nights, at 20:07  

  • Indiatimes: More interview:

    From the Print edition:


    Maharaj’s Volte-Face On Chappell Implies A Return Ticket Might Be On The Cards

    By Partha Bhaduri/TNN

    New Delhi: Cold logic and Indian cricket have always made strange bedfellows, even accounting for any radical, post-Chappell paradigm shift being engineered within the four walls of the team dressing room. For weeks now, in spite of a resurgent outfit’s winnings ways and it’s refreshing new attitude, the Ganguly conundrum has haunted a nation, and it’s fair to say no cricketing issue has cleaved public opinion with such storied insistence before.
    The issues have been multifarious and equally hotly debated: Did the country’s most successful captain deserve such an inglorious exit? Doesn’t a player who has scored 22 ODI centuries deserve a second chance? Is it possible at all for Chappell and Ganguly to forge a new working relationship?
    The famed ‘Maharaj’ ego, the stoic silence of the man in the eye of the storm, an indifferent showing in the Duleep Trophy, all conspired to complicate matters. Add to that a divided selection committee, plus the permanence a winning combination begets and deserves, and things were looking increasingly bleak for Behala’s favourite son.
    And then came the volte-face. In an unprecedented gesture, BCCI president Ranbir Singh Mahendra spoke out on Ganguly’s behalf, suggesting emphatically that he would make a comeback. It’s another matter altogether that he isn’t part of the selection committee, but as if on cue, Ganguly broke his silence (see interview), praising Greg Chappell’s methodology and sounding only too eager to mend fences with the coach.
    Naturally, with the Board AGM slated to be held on November 29 and the Jagmohan Dalmiyabacked faction looking on shaky ground, speculation mounted that backdoor machinations were underway to rehabilitate Ganguly into the squad, and fast. Mahendra’s comments were seen as a move to pressurise the selectors, and the notion that doors would be forever closed for Ganguly if the Sharad Pawar-faction usurped power continued to gain ground. Ironically, the first salvo had been fired not by Mahendra himself, but by Punjab Cricket Association chief and Dalmiya’s friendturned-foe Inderjit Singh Bindra, who suggested that Dalmiya himself might be behind a larger intrigue to keep Ganguly out.
    Former Indian cricketer Kirti Azad, who was a member of the selection committee from 2002-04, told TOI that during his tenure he had “never faced any direct suggestions from Board mandarins to select so-and-so”, but added
    that “they did air their views forcefully”.
    Azad feels there is too much
    at stake — including the issue of credibility — for
    the selectors to buckle. “Ganguly won’t come back because his backers in the administration want him to,” said Azad, “He will come back only if he is fit and willing to tow the Chappell line. If he gets going with the bat, he doesn’t need any godfather... with his legacy and achievements, he will select himself.”
    In this context, the two impending selection committee meetings — on Nov. 22 at Chennai, to select the squad for the last two ODIs against South Africa, and on Nov. 23, to select the team for the three-Test series against Sri Lanka — acquire immense significance. Indications are that the Kiran More-led five-member committee, which had unanimously ignored Ganguly in the wake of his tennis elbow injury and the team’s trailblazing efforts against Sri Lanka, might not have it so easy this time. With three members being known Ganguly backers, and in favour of his reinstatement, and one fence-sitter, hectic parlaying and pressure tactics might just be the watchword. Add to that the intense public resentment in Kolkata, which is slated to host the fourth match of the current series, and Ganguly might just get his foot in the door.
    Experts, however, feel mere reinstatement won’t do Ganguly any good in this performanceoriented set-up if he doesn’t get going with the bat. Former Indian captain Ajit Wadekar, who was himself made a scapegoat and forced to stand down in an unsavoury manner back in 1974, has a curious but plausible explanation for the entire unseemly saga. “Mahendra’s comments shouldn’t come as a surprise,” Wadekar said, “He is merely playing the good politician. All of Ganguly’s backers will want to take credit for his return. But Ganguly is an asset more in One-dayers than in Tests, and the selectors should be looking at that aspect also. Also, in the early days, when I was ousted, a little bit of insult went a long way, but Ganguly, I feel, is still hungry and has lots more to offer. Let’s not wish away his achievements and legacy.”
    Of course, any talk of Ganguly’s return must factor in the Chappell element. The farcical truce engineered between the two at the review committee meeting in Mumbai failed to break any ice, but Ganguly’s conscious efforts to speak out on Chappell’s behalf of late shows a willingness to shed bad blood. “You might interpret that as a desperate effort on Ganguly’s part to get back in,” says former player Navjot Singh Sidhu, “But that doesn’t mean it’s true. Selfish, petty, vested interests cannot override the interests of the country. The media took the Ganguly-Chappell spat and created a Frankenstein’s monster. I don’t think Ganguly’s return will foster cliques in the team like before, and Chappell would only be too willing to lend a helping hand if Ganguly is sincere. I had a heated argument with Mohammed Azharuddin when he was captain and I continued playing international cricket, didn’t I?”
    That might be true, and Ganguly has indeed proved he is fit enough to play at the top level, but his domestic form — he got a pair in the Duleep Trophy final, both times falling victim to another cricketer facing a similar dilemma, Zaheer Khan — isn’t all that hunky-dory. “The euphoria following the gorgeous 117 against North Zone at Rajkot has been all but forgotten,” says Wadekar, “But comparing him with the likes of JP Yadav is nonsense.”
    Towing the Chappell line has been a healthy beginning, but the gumption to displace the likes of Mohammed Kaif or Yuvraj Singh to stake a claim in the Indian middle-order cannot be engineered without solid evidence of form. It is here that Ganguly has his work cut out, and the opportunity to lead Bengal against Maharashtra in the Ranji Trophy encounter at Pune from Nov. 23 might just provide a panacea for all ills.

    Vital S t a t s

    6 Tests
    Avg. 50.40
    11 Tests
    Avg. 56.53
    5 Tests
    Avg. 33.38
    10 Tests
    Avg. 50.81
    6 Tests
    Avg. 31
    13 Tests
    Avg. 22.20
    16 Tests
    Avg. 41.09
    4 Tests
    Avg. 65.50
    8 Tests
    Avg. 45.33
    5 Tests
    Avg. 23.57

    Ganguly Interview:
    ‘I’m good enough to play for India’

    By Sumit Mukherjee/TNN

    You had built Team India during your five-year rein as captain and earned a lot of success. How is the ‘new’ Team India different from yours?
    Look, there has always been only one Team India and there is just one philosophy behind a successful side — you must perform as a team. Be it winning the World Cup with Kapil Dev, the World Championship of Cricket under Sunil Gavaskar, the Hero Cup with Azhar at the helm, or the Titan Cup under Sachin Tendulkar, all major landmarks in Indian cricket history have come because of a sustained team effort. It was no different under my captaincy, and now it’s Rahul Dravid’s turn.
    It must be pretty frustrating to sit and watch, especially with the team doing so well?
    I am missing the action, no doubt, but I have played international cricket long enough to know that all cricketers go through such phases in their career. The idea is to keep practising and remain positive.
    What keeps you going?
    Self-belief. I know that I am still good enough to play for India. I wouldn’t be hanging around if I were not sure about that.
    But you are surely not going to be judged by the number of runs you score, or fail to score, in Ranji or Duleep Trophy?
    I guess not. But playing first-class cricket is the best way to keep yourself match-fit. That’s what I am doing.
    Would you say your differences with Greg Chappell boils down to a clash of egos?
    I wouldn’t say that. I have always admired him as a cricketer and a person. In 2003 when I went to Sydney to consult him on a technical problem about my batting, I marvelled at this man’s knowledge about the game. He not only helped me iron out the flaw, but also went out his way to make me feel comfortable.
    Despite the souring of relations, you foresee no problems when you get back?
    None at all. When it comes to playing for the Indian team, the only language you need to talk is cricket. And it goes for everyone in the team.
    Where do you fit into this Indian side?
    I’ll play wherever the team wants me to play. Any good ODI side needs to have a certain amount of flexibility. Even when I was the captain, I had dropped myself down the order in the larger interests of the side.
    What about the brand of cricket that India played to demolish Sri Lanka in the ODI series?
    I would say, it was Team India at its best with just about everyone contributing. It was heartening to see the boys play their heart out. We deserved to win the way we did.
    Do you think the 6-1 scoreline against Sri Lanka was flattering?
    Not at all. We played some very good cricket, and our boys did not allow Sri Lanka to play their natural game. If you look back at their record in India, it is pretty ordinary.
    Just as they beat us quite easily in Sri Lanka?
    Yes. Sri Lanka’s record in ODIs away from home is quite ordinary, while at home even Australians have found it hard to beat them. In fact, we have beaten Sri Lanka in Sri Lanka more often than most other teams.
    What makes Sri Lankans so difficult to beat at home?
    It just that they are used to the home conditions better. The ball tends to stop a bit and does not come onto the bat at Dambulla as well as the Premadasa Stadium. That’s why even their part-time bowlers like Dilshan, Arnold and Chandana go for less than 3.5 runs per over. No wonder they enjoy playing the ODIs at Premadasa.

    By Blogger Dark Nights, at 20:17  

  • That LP Sahi article, if accurate, sheds light on a rather unbelievable situation. The first round of the Ranji Trophy matches are from Novemeber 23-26. It would stand to logic that the Test squad would be selected after this, keeping all hopefuls just that, hopeful. However, the selection of the Test squad will apprently be moved up to before the Ranji matches in order to select Ganguly for the first Test, supposedly ensuring the Kolkata ODI will go off without crowd trouble. First off, I feel this insults the Kolkata crowd's intelligence. I am aware there has been a history of crowd upheavel against Sri Lanka in the '99 World Cup semis and Pakistan test match, but those situations were completely different from the present. During those games, the crowd was upset about India losing such a vital game, while right now the focus is on an individual player. Although many of the fans may be upset at not seeing Ganguly, I highly doubt there would be any serious disruption of the game, other than several posters probably requesting the reinstatement of Ganguly. The Kolkata fans will be just as happy as ever watching the Indian team perform well. If Ganguly is to be selected, he ought to be selected on merit, not as some form of appeasement to avoid ludicrously perceived threat of crowd violence. This simply sets such an incredibly bad precedent-- even by the BCCI's low standards, this would be a new level of daftness.

    By Blogger Sahir, at 21:24  

  • Based on LP Sahi and his source, SG is finding spot in Test Team, fearing crowd trouble during ODI. SG is over, it is just waste of test batting position. Even on slow, batting paradise tracks he cannot get into double digits.

    By Blogger Rajg, at 21:48  

  • Raj,
    The thing that really irks me is that the question does not seem to be whether Ganguly can score runs or not (I'm not saying he can or cannot), but rather how can we ensure the Kolkata ODI goes off without a hitch? Is that really how our selection thought process should be? Here's what I think will happen: Ganguly will be selected in the Test squad prior to the Kolkata ODI, but he will not be played, Yuvraj will. Now, if I was Kolkatan, such a move would only further infuriate me because I would see through the obvious transparency of the BCCI's selection in the first place. And the Kolkatans would be very justified in feeling that way. All we need from the selectoral process is honesty. If you are not selecting Ganguly based on his form, say so. If you do select Ganguly, back the selection with the argument that you feel he is still the best option for the number 6 position in Test cricket. But, please BCCI, do not select him in a mire of secrecy and politicing, letting people's imaginations run wild and only further fueling the quagmire Indian cricket has found itself in.

    By Blogger Sahir, at 22:10  

  • i think the match tomorrow will be washed out or atleast shortened :-(

    it was raining the whole of yesterday night and even during the day today there have been bursts of rain

    By Blogger Chetan Reddy, at 00:21  

  • I think in the last ODI, Murali Karthik shud hv been the man of the match. 10-4-16-0. what a great spell that was.
    He was the one who put the breaks on SA
    He deserved the award

    By Blogger idli vade, at 00:26  

  • English cheating now..

    Dodgy appeals lead to outs..
    Yousuf, Afridi and Inzy all not out.

    By Blogger losing now, at 00:53  

  • harmison does what the poms did all summer. pick up and hurl a ball played back to you. although within the rules it does show what a shitty sportsmanship the brits carry with them.

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 01:29  

  • losing now,
    so what? there are umpires in the ground rite? so u cant call it cheating. umpires can use the technology.
    Pakis are cheters too.
    Remember sachin tendulkar's run out in the calcutta test?

    By Blogger idli vade, at 01:31  

  • Have you read this REDIFF news...Ganguly set for Test Return
    So what, Now they will bring SG back becos they are SCARED of Calcutta crowd THAT IS LOUSY
    JD's screwed up cunning tactics.

    By Blogger Glorious Uncertainty(GU), at 01:41  

  • yah. he has to return. that will do a world of good to indian cricket. i know he is not in great form. but he has done it in the past and class in permanent. remember sachin tendulkar is also going through a bad patach. he comes back to indian team with a 90 on a flat wicket and scores another 50 on a flat wicket while chasing a mere 120. however he fails in the next 6 matches

    By Blogger idli vade, at 01:46  

  • st gilley b warne
    but what abt te fact that as of now dravids team does not need ganguly ?

    By Blogger GK, at 01:48  

    Let us all start a campaign to keep GANGULY 1000000 miles away from Indian cricket.

    Have you read this REDIFF news...Ganguly set for Test Return


    By Blogger Glorious Uncertainty(GU), at 01:50  

  • yah gk, i know we dont need ganguly now. but dont go by the current performance of the team. although we won by 6-1, tha sl attack is such a pathetic one. and that too on flat wicket. and as for the bangalore win, the whole its such a turning wicket. the toss decided the match. probably they can get ganguly back some time in the future.
    yesterday i was watching some channel. sandeep patil was saying sachin's failure is due to the rest given to him in the 5th ODI. what a crap analysys. these people will say anything to please tendulkar.

    By Blogger idli vade, at 01:53  

  • sgbw
    say what u mite sl was still the #2 team when we beat them as is SA now.

    By Blogger GK, at 01:55  

  • gk, i dont care abt the stats.. sl was probably no 2 probably cuz they played most of the odis at home in the recent past. the whole world knows they rock on the dusty premadasa and thekarama staduim.
    coming back to bangalore odi, the toss won the match..
    murali karthik 10-4-16-0.. wow!! what a spell by him. (he hasnt got a wicket although the part time spinners got).. i was watching the match. even yuvraj was turning it squre..
    ksca sucks by preparich such wickets. a lot of my friends had gone to sea the match by buying overpriced tickets.. its pity the match ended in the 35th over..

    By Blogger idli vade, at 02:01  

  • sgbw
    the same arguement mate - do u say the pitches at waca and kingsmead "suck" becoz of the bounce they offer ? i think it is perfectly fine to extract home advantage

    By Blogger GK, at 02:07  

  • waca and kingsmead are not as bouncy nowadays.
    what i meant was they shud prepare sportive wickets.. i dont think u will see a score of abt 160 at waca or kingsmead.
    but the fact that bangalore pitch was certianly not a sportive wicket.. such pitches kill the interst of the games.

    By Blogger idli vade, at 02:13  

  • i remember srilanks bowling 10 overs with seamers. and then use full time and part rimespinners till the 50th over.
    the other day it was more or less the same scenario..

    By Blogger idli vade, at 02:17  

  • of course not ... u do see scores of 160 on bouncy pitches when subcontintental teams play - its a question of batsmen being able to adapt to the conditions.

    i dont think yesterdays pitch was a 160 one. i think a team more skilled at playing spin would have scored at least 220 to make an exciting game

    By Blogger GK, at 02:17  

  • well, i dont agree. It certialy was a 160 pitch. M Karthik 10-4-16-0 says it all :-)..
    Infact Yuvraj and Sehwag looked more penetrative than Karthik.
    Anyways opinions differ..

    By Blogger idli vade, at 02:20  

  • Widespread rains forecast as depression moves closer to TN
    Chennai, Nov 21 (PTI):After two weeks of respite, rains lashed various parts of Tamil Nadu, including the metropolis, since the wee hours of today with the depression over the Bay of Bengal moving closer to the state's coast. Several low-lying areas in the city were inundated due to the heavy rains.

    Weather Office here said the depression which was located at 650 kms east southeast of Pamban in Ramanathapuram district yesterday lay 550 kms as of 5 am today and was likely to move slowly further in a west northwesterly direction.

    Under its influence, rain or thundershowers were likely to occur at most places over south Tamil Nadu and at many places over north coastal Tamil Nadu and Pondicherry, during the next 24 hours beginning at 8.30 AM today.

    Isolated heavy rains were also likely over Thanjavur, Tiruvarur, Nagapattinam, Cuddalore, Tiruchirappalli and Puducottai districts and Karaikal area of Pondicherry during the same period, the weather office said.

    Squally weather with wind speed reaching upto 55 to 65 kms per hour was likely over these places during the same period, it said. Strong wind with speed of 45 to 55 kmph were likely along the remaining coastal districts.

    The met office warned fishermen not to venture into the sea off Tamil Nadu-Pondicherry coast as the "conditions would be rough to very rough."

    The metropolis which had just come back to normalcy after the heavy bouts of rains late last month and early this month since the onset of north east monsoon was once again being battered by rains since wee hours of this morning inundating low-lying areas.

    By Blogger krishkannan, at 02:20  

  • to add to that,
    boucher is the best sa batsman agaisnt spin.
    but jayaprakash ruled him lbw..
    i somehow feel jp is a poor umpire..

    By Blogger idli vade, at 02:21  

  • sgbw
    how do u know boucher is the best batsman against spin ? and yeah he was not out but then such things keep happening ... sachin was not out in hyderabad

    By Blogger GK, at 02:23  

  • tendulkar's weakness?

    for the record SRT was caught at mid-on mistiming a delivery that held back. now how many times should that happen before we can say 'ok that there is a weakness'. if someone can take a page out of the nineties, you'l find the same kind of dismissal in many matches. or even in the early 2000's. of course everybody is in awe of 125 crores in 4 years nowadays. maybe we should dissect his game as closel as we do viru's of SGs.

    By Blogger achu, at 02:27  

  • i have see boucher in the past against spin. and he luked the best. i agree he is not having a good time of late.
    remember the 2 test series in india when cronje was there? sa won 2-0. and boucher played some great innings agaisnt the spinners.

    yah i know such things happen. but they happen more with umpire jayaprakash..
    also sometimes he gives horrible dicisions suddenly withought even thinking for a while.

    By Blogger idli vade, at 02:28  

  • sorry the last few words should be:
    "as closely as we do viru's or SG's"

    By Blogger achu, at 02:29  

  • but supposedly kallis their best player in all aspects

    By Blogger GK, at 02:29  

  • in the world cup match agaisnt pak tendulakr was amlost out in that fashion. razak missed a chance of akram

    By Blogger idli vade, at 02:30  

  • yah supposedly kallis is the best. in the first test SA were struggling.. kallis was still batting when boucher came.. kalis was not scoring runs.. boucher finished of the match.. this is one such instance. he has played many..
    in the world cup match boucher hit mularalitharn for a six and almost won the match for them.. but it rained the duck worth levis came

    By Blogger idli vade, at 02:33  

  • Ganguly set for Test return

    M Chhaya in Kolkata | November 21, 2005 11:10 IST

    Deposed India captain Sourav Ganguly looks set to make a comeback in the Test team to be announced on Wednesday.

    According to sources in the Board of Control for Cricket in India, Ganguly will stage a comeback, but the captaincy will remain with Rahul Dravid.

    The selectors are expected to pick a 15-member squad for the first of a three-Test series against Sri Lanka in Chennai on Wednesday besides naming the team for the last two one-day internationals against South Africa. The captain for the Test series will be named on Tuesday.

    BCCI sources said the team for the last two one-dayers is likely to remain the same that played the first three ties.

    Debate: We don't respect our heroes?
    Initially, the Test team was to be picked on November 28, but that date has been advanced, and BCCI sources said it has been decided to name the squad with Ganguly in it to avoid trouble ahead of the one-day international against South Africa in Kolkata on November 25.

    There have been numerous protests in the city against the continued exclusion of Ganguly from the team.

    There has also been some talk of India going the Australian way and appointing two separate captains for the two variants of the game, but that now seems unlikely.

    "Ganguly is India's most successful skipper, but all those statistics is history now. He can only hope to be back in the team as a member," said a BCCI source.

    By Blogger krishkannan, at 02:58  

  • pretty pathetic. so now we take decisions based on being terrorised by violent passionate "fans"

    By Blogger GK, at 03:14  

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