Advantage Pak?(-worma)
Not yet, I would say....with their lead still only 115+ and given their propensity to collapse, and with this Eng attack..I would think a lead of 200 with these two (or atleast one of them) still around is when they can feel safe. If these two are around, then probably thats when Inzy will look to make his move..and accelerate a bit.
And it seems Flintoff was again the prime mover for Eng...repeating his Ashes effort of bowling his heart out(as he did last evening, to remove Younis). Although I am wondering if the situation was really so desperate last evening that Tresco had to open with Freddie? Probably too early in the tour to over-rely on him(and over-work him in the process)...and not showing enough faith in Harmison? Derek Pringle touches the same point in his report today.
Meanwhile, Vaughan's chances of return for the second match have improved. I think England may need him desperately in the second match, even if they draw this one, forget losing. Ofcourse whom to drop if he does come in would be a tough call for Eng.
Anyway...sort of open thread for test proceedings...
update 1: meanwhile...read this entertaining report from Martin Johnson in Telegraph about events on day 3. Sample this about the state of the pitch, and prospects of Giles getting a wicket here
update 2: Hoggard and Flintoff turn on the heat with second new ball. Inzy, Yousuf and Raza off in quick succession and that likely Pak collapse has surely arrived again. And a draw, a more than faint possibility at lunchtime, is certainly out of question now. The interest point now would be how far can Pak stretch this, and how much of a fight can they give with a 200-ish lead. Ooh...Butt also gone, as I write this...and 200 is looking more like a dream now.
And I guess we can now say that Freddie's performance has proven a point to those doubting his effectivity in the subcontinent(?)
And it seems Flintoff was again the prime mover for Eng...repeating his Ashes effort of bowling his heart out(as he did last evening, to remove Younis). Although I am wondering if the situation was really so desperate last evening that Tresco had to open with Freddie? Probably too early in the tour to over-rely on him(and over-work him in the process)...and not showing enough faith in Harmison? Derek Pringle touches the same point in his report today.
It was a different matter when England entrusted the new ball to Matthew Hoggard and Flintoff, promoted in place of Stephen Harmison. Although unlikely to have been a unilateral decision by Trescothick, Flintoff failed to make the breakthrough. Instead, that came when Harmison, brought on for the seventh over, had Malik caught by Trescothick at slip with his second ball.
Meanwhile, Vaughan's chances of return for the second match have improved. I think England may need him desperately in the second match, even if they draw this one, forget losing. Ofcourse whom to drop if he does come in would be a tough call for Eng.
Anyway...sort of open thread for test proceedings...
update 1: meanwhile...read this entertaining report from Martin Johnson in Telegraph about events on day 3. Sample this about the state of the pitch, and prospects of Giles getting a wicket here
On current evidence, any further attempts by Giles to grow some facial hair would leave him looking like WG Grace by the time he takes a Test wicket in this country, as bounce and pace are essential for a spinner who, essentially, doesn't spin it. There's nothing much in the pitch for the quicks either. If a batsman spots a bouncer he can duck, get up again to see if the ball has arrived, and if it hasn't, duck again.
update 2: Hoggard and Flintoff turn on the heat with second new ball. Inzy, Yousuf and Raza off in quick succession and that likely Pak collapse has surely arrived again. And a draw, a more than faint possibility at lunchtime, is certainly out of question now. The interest point now would be how far can Pak stretch this, and how much of a fight can they give with a 200-ish lead. Ooh...Butt also gone, as I write this...and 200 is looking more like a dream now.
And I guess we can now say that Freddie's performance has proven a point to those doubting his effectivity in the subcontinent(?)
37 Comments:
Pak 299 / 7
Butt Gone.
Pakistan lead by 155 runs
By ரிஷி, at 04:21
yeah...we all can predict that much about Pak ;-)
By worma, at 04:27
This on the main post by Ruchir...."Arjuna Ranatunga is not a quick learner. He just keeps on throwing his arrows aimlessly. Most of his column is dedicated to Ganguly"
Ruchir...
What is aimless about this??
Why should you take offence to this and put your views as those representing the blog?
If you are posting on the main page...please maintain an unbiased approach...One can see the perceptible difference in what WOrma posts and what you do...U still have a long way to go
By RR, at 05:26
shoaib playing a VALIANT innings - 5 in 40 balls
By Gaurav, at 05:32
honestly
if readrs of the blog are not gonna allow the writers to present their own views ... it is weird
By Gaurav, at 05:36
pak 332/9 looks like its gonna be easy after all
By Gaurav, at 05:44
Pakistan 9 down...
By Saurabh Wahi, at 05:44
Wallet: Unfortunately, self-mocking irony is lost on you. Doesn't matter, at least you still have that wallet.
By i, at 05:47
gk, this can be a tricky total for England, especially since they will have to play tonight and tomorrow morning - which are the trickiest sessions in Multan.
Chasing a small total, they might be inclined to go for their shots and pay the price.
But all indications are they should win this one...
By Saurabh Wahi, at 05:48
woo hoo...Tresco gone :-)...saurabh...nervous?
By worma, at 06:23
Dear slice, have been hanging around waiting till I can go back and speak hindi for a change. I am sick of conversing in Anglais
By i, at 06:27
the audacity of ian bell - pulling shoaib for a 6 at the fag end of the day
By Gaurav, at 06:27
k-slice...yeah 10 down won't need chilling..right? :-)...but seriously...good start from Pak I would say...Strauss looking very edgy (ok...not 'looking' but seeming...as I'm not watching)
By worma, at 06:35
I can't decide which one to root for, or rather root against. Both are loathsome. Sigh.
By i, at 06:42
k-slice...frankly I don't care which one of them wins...as long as its a good match. Ohh..ok...dropping the facade....make it 'as long as none of them gain a psychological upper hand before facing us' :-)...I want Strauss to fail...KP also kept down....Bell etc are ok to handle anyway. And Freddie is anyway impossible to supress in current form.
Yes ofcourse its great sight to watch a fightback....guess I'll indeed be getting up early tomorrow morning atleast...have been lazy all this while
By worma, at 06:44
k-slice: actually I figured out that I want both to do bad....Pak to win a game or so...but lose another one badly...and Eng batting to be specially kept quiet. Yeah...dreaming...I know :-)
By worma, at 06:49
worma
i just want to see a really close match ... and a series ... dont care abt anything else
By Gaurav, at 06:51
worma
whats the plan for tomorrows game ? here or reconfigured DG ? and is prem gonna be able to take part ?
By Gaurav, at 06:52
gk..plan for tomorrow is here only, as far as I know. Prem mentioned yesterday that he would be keeping an eye on comments and making his contribution on main posts (said 10 over slot, if I remember correctly).
By worma, at 06:54
Guys,
Why do we hope that England lose to Pakistan and vice versa so it benefits India?
We should have confidence in our ability to win, no matter the result of this series.
As they say, "Lets worry about our game".
By Saurabh Wahi, at 08:26
nakshathrika,
even I want England to win but thats not my point.
Why should we worry about the result of this series to help India win the subsequent series.
Like I said, we should be confident enough to beat whoever and in whatever form...
By Saurabh Wahi, at 08:36
I hate idiotic headlines like this
"Flintoff confident of England win"
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/england/4438990.stm
Next what?
"Inzi confident of Pak win"...
By Saurabh Wahi, at 08:41
Saurabh....How abt..."SG apologizes to GC...back in Team India"....:)
By RR, at 08:49
Guys....just chill..there is much more happening around us than just cricket
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1291673.cms
By RR, at 09:04
LOL :-)) After 80 overs it looked like a dog had chewed it Freddie on the state of the ball
By worma, at 09:07
ss: I don't believe anyone's eyes are closed on this one...some may choose to ignore...but what's the point. These are not revelations really...all records are out there to be accessed by anyone interested
By worma, at 09:20
hemal
That was exactly my reaction. The records were an eye opener for me. SG was great in 2000-01 maybe but that was 5 years ago. I think 5 years ago Deep Dasgupta had a 100 in a test match. I wonder if that means he should be in the team now ... hmm ...
By Gopal Bhagavatula, at 09:41
ss - you're right! I'm not joining your pro-SG camp but I agree with your analysis.
By Gopal Bhagavatula, at 10:01
I think we'll put up a much more consistent show against India at home this year then we did last time - just a feeling I have - and that feeling I have regardless of how we'll do against England.
It we win this, it'll be some achievement. If we lose, I hope we only lose it after after a real good fight - that way we'll be in better frame of mind for the next test at Faisalabad. I'll not rule out a tie either - this England team have a knack of producing epic test matches. :)
By Unknown, at 10:36
yeah..me can also do without the tense moments...what with the whole match coinciding with work hours...and on top of it an India-SA match to follow...please..lets have a clean swift end to this. I'm even ready for a rip-through early up by Shoaib and company.....and we'll see about that how ready Pak is to face Ind later :-)
By worma, at 11:24
ged: you wish! when was the last time Eng made it so easy on themselves :-)
By worma, at 12:13
Yeah, I did think of that Port Elisabeth match...200 odd for 3 right? To be frank, Eng do keep their heads about better than most teams while chasing, and that goes for ODIs as well (wasn't it recently that they were accused of being unable to set targets in ODIs...only chasers!).
And yeah, right too....about no-one having it easy against Aus batting last. I think WI chasing a 400+ total in dead rubber in their last series in Carribean is the best example I can think. Otherwise its always been tricky...whether Eng chasing at Trent Bridge, or India at Adelaid, Chennai.
By worma, at 12:42
but, and this if you are watching the game rather than comparing scoresheets, they do have a knack of making it hard on themselves when in comfortable position
By worma, at 12:43
Now that I will contest. I don't think this current Indian test team hands over the initiative from strong positions as easily as Eng does. Ofcourse the current Eng team is overall a better team than Indian, so it 'creates' more of such situations. But its a different matter of how you handle it, when you've got it.
I have not followed the other teams test exploits as well, but I have a feeling that its not the case with SA and WI either..that they don't let go, if and when they get the hold.
Anyway, for me, its Eng, Aus and Ind which are going to be fighting for the top slot in near future...so worth comparing them.
By worma, at 13:49
ged, its not about losing...more about making it hard on themselves. For example this entire Ashes series....you should have comfortably won 3-1. From its position of relative comfort, Eng managed to let Aus draw one, almost do it again! And then this one here in Pak.
By worma, at 14:52
and before you say its Aus...do remember that, as I said, I mainly compare with India and I don't remember us letting them get out of a tight spot in recent times. Against Pak as well when we were in strong position, we closed the game well and truly for them each time.
I hope you are able to see the point..?
By worma, at 14:54
ged, for ths Pak match its the missed chance while batting that I'm also talking about. And I thought you covered the Aus exception only for your chase at Trent Bridge? :-)
But hey, nice to chat...am always on for any real cricketing discussion. Catch you later sometime, even I've to get up at horrible hours to catch both the matches (this one and Ind-SA ODI)
By worma, at 15:06
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