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Monday, November 14, 2005

Still not over(-worma)

Looks like the Pak-Eng test has once again taken a turn, after Eng seemed to be shutting out Pak till yesterday (Dang..looks like I missed some real good action!)...now Pak seems to have tightened their game after a predictably shaky start to another test series. Those watching closely can help throw more light?

But right now, Eng is 125 ahead with last two Eng wkts remaining. If they can be mopped under 150 lead, and Pak lineup can get its act even reasonably together...a target of 150+ can be a bit of a challenge for Eng. I don't think looking at the Eng scorecard one can say their batsmen are in good nick. Not yet, atleast. And therein lies Pak hopes. Not just for the match, but the series as well.

Tresco goes for 193, and he probably rightly calls it his best test century, more so for its importance in context of Eng chances in the series (and even the whole winter in subcontinent, and thus on its ultimate and unquestionable mount to the very top)

Even as I write this, Akhtar and Shabbir seem to be cleaning up pretty fast!..more updates and thoughts to follow..

234 Comments:

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    By Blogger Steve, at 03:28  

  • worma: you are being overoptimistic about pak chances of winning this one. They will concede 140+ in lead ..will have to score 350+ to put a good total (against a very good English bowling attack!) and then hope to bowl the POMs out under 200. sorry man, i wish what u r wishing but ground reality is different.

    By Blogger losing now, at 03:30  

  • losing: No not 'over'...just plain optimistic ;-)...I didn't say they would win with a 150+ lead...just that it can challenge Eng...I would still think Eng is ahead in this test, by a good margin...just that they havent been able to shut it out, mainly due to the middle order failure.

    Ofcourse 'wishing' is different matter altogether :-)...just want to see a close match (and a series) rather than a one-sided one...towards either team.

    Thats also good for our chances, since we play both these teams as their next assignment.

    By Blogger worma, at 03:33  

  • Heres a chunk from SMG's column........i think for the first time in his column he was referring to SG as thinking about himself being "indespensible" which is a welcome change of thought from a staunch SG supporter.

    I just hope the other SG fans follow suit.

    "The one refreshing thing seen was that there seemed to be no club mentality in the team, wherein some players thought that they belonged to an exclusive ‘members restricted’ club and so were indispensable."

    By Blogger rahul_fan, at 03:33  

  • worma: ok here we go. 144 lead. i think the Pak bowling attack is very weak .. they need reinvigorating like Indian attack just did. Akhtar is past his sell-by date. Sami flatters to decieve. Shabbir is not a "lambi race ka ghoda"..keeps getting injured. The only match winner is Kaneria, but they do not produce turning tracks for him. Now look at the batting..except IUH and Youhana (and Younis against India) they do not have consistent long innings player. Pak test cricket will be tested by both England and India.

    By Blogger losing now, at 03:39  

  • East vs West is interestingly poised. Ganguly bowled 11 0vers for 0 wicket. Parthiv patel (18 of 15 balls) going after the bowling. 131/5..44 runs to win.

    By Blogger losing now, at 03:45  

  • losing: yeah..lead's pretty much around what we thought. Akhtar, as I wrote earlier, is on his last leg. But I think its fair to give him a full series (if he's able to survive)...and remember he's just played a test after a long long time...so obviously will take time to settle in. Lets see how he goes...already showed signs (from what I read) of building up the rhythm. You watching?

    And agree by your analysis(although Shabbir can become that long term man, lets wait and see..he's really good, from what I've seen) of their team. Probably thats why they've been struggling in tests for a while. But their problem is more about getting the combination and their plans right...than a lack of right talent to fit into those plans.

    By Blogger worma, at 03:50  

  • worma: tried watching..thru ss. but the video is very very choppy. cannot fix it. tried all the buffering thingies. gave up. following on ci...along with duleep final

    By Blogger losing now, at 03:51  

  • folks...any idea abt the SA warm-up match. It is on Nov 14 right ?

    By Blogger greg2rescue, at 03:52  

  • losing: ok. Just wondering how the pitch is holding up...just 3 out of 20 wkts to spinners so far. Wonder if there is turn at all, and what kind. Did read reports that Kaneira turned, and googled as well :-)

    By Blogger worma, at 04:00  

  • meanwhile....why has Flintoff opened the bowling? Surely the situation is not as desperate now (as it was in some of Aus second innings during Ashes)..and neither has Harmison been ineffective? (or has he?)

    By Blogger worma, at 04:04  

  • un-believable that shoaib bowled 27 overs (max along with DK)...Maybe this is a new leaf in the fast bowlers book...Wondering how many overs he was asked to bowl on the trot...I think they are forcing him to work harder and harder...Godd for Pak team...

    By Blogger greg2rescue, at 04:04  

  • this is friggin JD contribution to indian cricket.. India's premier 4 day tournament final .. not on TV. Can you imagine this ridiculous state of affairs. The BCCI just does not know how to market and cater to its customers. pathetic.

    By Blogger losing now, at 04:11  

  • meanwhile, parthiv is taking west to victory...awesome stuff...

    By Blogger greg2rescue, at 04:13  

  • Harmison STRIKES 2nd ball!!

    By Blogger losing now, at 04:13  

  • greg,
    unfortunately for shoaib all the whiskey he drinks impedes his ability to ever get truly in shape. i have seen the dude drink and he could put most irishmen to shame!!

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 04:14  

  • G2 .. yep. ZK and PP kicking SG when he is down. Irony

    By Blogger losing now, at 04:14  

  • partiv oh parthiv if only you had performed thus when you were in theindian team. too bad you are now last in line.

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 04:15  

  • wondering why pak is stooping to sending shoaib mallick to open...cant they find a friggin opener ??

    By Blogger greg2rescue, at 04:15  

  • PP could end up as the highest scorer for west in both innings!

    By Blogger losing now, at 04:17  

  • greg, in pakistan anyone who they want out of the team is either asked to captain the side or to opent he innnings. woolmer is hell bent on giving mallick an extended run before they discard him and try someone else.

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 04:18  

  • PP is on a comeback trial. I think he shld try as a pure batmsan, because, he cannot compete against Dhoni right now, but, he can threaten Yuvi, kaif etc for a batting spot...

    By Blogger greg2rescue, at 04:19  

  • k-slice, I thought yasir hameed was OK. He had the strokes and the class. He was jsut not given a long run...

    By Blogger greg2rescue, at 04:20  

  • G2 : who would that be? Yasir hameed - poor technique. This has been their big problem for the past year and half. To me test matches are consistently won by sides that have good opening bats (who can see off the first 25 overs at least) and of course, 1 or 2 or 3 match winning bowlers. WI of 70/80s, Aus of 90s have that in common. Look at us, we have won when our opening bats have delivered

    By Blogger losing now, at 04:20  

  • greg,
    what is the latest in the duleep final ?

    By Blogger GK, at 04:22  

  • greg another otion they have is imran nazir. i tought he was good if only he could leave balls outside the off. yasir hameed is excellent but why waste him opening when he can do so much more in the middle order. specially with IUH nearing the end of his career

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 04:22  

  • losing: good point. I thought it was coach's job to correct the player's technique if faulty. They could have persisted with him as opposed to just discarded him. Also, Bob woolmer is obsessed with Shoaib mallick.

    By Blogger greg2rescue, at 04:23  

  • g2: yasir has a very poor technique against ball pitched off-middle and leaving off. He is not a good "leaver" of the ball..always went for the shot and was invariably caught - SMG had analyzed his technique on TV and said that he is not sure of his off-stump. Which is problem #1 for any opening bat

    By Blogger losing now, at 04:24  

  • West requires 17 more to win - 5 wkts remaining

    By Blogger greg2rescue, at 04:24  

  • losing: they have tried 6 openers in past 10 matches...so obviously not enough patience...thats the problem. Sure Hameed and others have some technical flaws...so does Sehwag and Tresco. You cannot judge so soon...and not everyone is an overnight success (actually Hameed started off really well). Even Taufiq, Imran were good. I have no clue why they didn't persist...except for the fact that Woolmer finds Malik fitting his 'mentality' of a good long term cricketers..and wants to find a place for him. The middle order's really packed...they've left out Afridi who was good in last two series....and Razzaq is still unfit. And yet, they had a fight between Raza and Kamal for that last middle order spot

    By Blogger worma, at 04:25  

  • losing: yeah..I saw that also. These young guns think that they shld not leave anything...temparament is a big problem..

    By Blogger greg2rescue, at 04:25  

  • worma...you are right. also they must be daft to leave out afridi...he could be the devastating weapon and the utility option...

    By Blogger greg2rescue, at 04:27  

  • asim kamal is crap...I will pick afridi any day..,technique and temparament be damned...winning cards are always worth trying out....

    By Blogger greg2rescue, at 04:28  

  • yeah ... go WEST ... plz update when the match is over

    By Blogger GK, at 04:29  

  • losing,greg,
    i agree with losing's point on technique and pak. i think a lot of players that come out of pak's rural areas lack even basic technique. i am not saying they lack talent. i think they rely largely on timing which means that as soon as the ball does a little bit in the air or off the seam they are up shit creak as far as hitting through the line or timing theball goes. ane xample of a player who has done exceedingly well on flat tracks but not on swinging tracks is Inzy. his average against australia is 29 i beleive. another is or rather was anwar. . i am not saying these players are flukes or just flat track bullies but rather that they arent as good on seaming tracks. also might have to do with the fact that they are usually brought up playing with taped tennis balls that dont really move much and sit up to be belted.

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 04:29  

  • worma: i cannot imagine that they are not including Afridi in the team. Hey, he can open and score quick runs...and his bowling (quite frankly) is underrated. He is a damn good cricketer. In my book, Afridi plays in all forms of cricket for Pak all the time. He is a genuine match-winner.

    By Blogger losing now, at 04:30  

  • k-slice, good point. I think there only a hndful of cricketers in the world today who can play the moving ball very well...Pak are better off preparing spinning tracks...I am not sure why Woolmer does not think so...loosers...

    By Blogger greg2rescue, at 04:33  

  • k-slice: interesting observations. i did not realize IUH had a THAT poor a record in Australia. wow!

    By Blogger losing now, at 04:34  

  • check youhanna (or mohammed yousuf). He must have a poorer record against non-minnows and abroad.

    By Blogger greg2rescue, at 04:35  

  • duleep trphy won ???

    By Blogger GK, at 04:36  

  • losing, infact none of the pakis have a good average in aus. that also could be attributed to the fact that the aussies have 3 goddamn magicians in their attack!!

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 04:36  

  • g2: that is exactly my point earlier..they should play on turning tracks and let Kaneria loose. relying on Akhtar/Sami/Shabbir vs Harmison/Flintoff/Hoggard (today) is futile. Kaneria/Afridi beats Giles/Udal

    By Blogger losing now, at 04:37  

  • no gk tea

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 04:37  

  • duleep scoreboard on ci is frozen at 158/5!

    By Blogger losing now, at 04:38  

  • gk, cricinfo is not refreshing...shows 17 runs remaining...

    By Blogger greg2rescue, at 04:38  

  • ..now i see, it is tea! Why take tea when 17 runs are needed? Extend the play by 30 min,guys

    By Blogger losing now, at 04:40  

  • youhana is 24.5 against SL & 29.6 against aus & 16.5 against SA, but, has awesome ave against all others...

    By Blogger greg2rescue, at 04:40  

  • ah ok ... im waiting for west to Win ... yippeee

    By Blogger GK, at 04:44  

  • not a bad start by pak 64/1 at a Run rate of 4.92 (not that this matters too much, but, it tells you how a team is going)...

    By Blogger greg2rescue, at 04:46  

  • g2: no wonder Pak is ranked #7 in tests. this clearly shows. interesting

    By Blogger losing now, at 04:46  

  • hmmm ... i hope pak do put up a fight ... 300-350 in the second inns will leave them with a chance

    By Blogger GK, at 04:47  

  • losing: yeah...if pak wins this test series, they grab valuable points from eng...This is good from India's point of view...

    GO PAK...

    By Blogger greg2rescue, at 04:47  

  • now that it is tea on both "live" events..some off-topic talk guys.
    Abu Salem extradition casualties..
    1. Which cricketer?
    2. Which actor (today rediff says that he met Sanjay dutt)?
    Looks like a lot of people "peeing in their pants"

    By Blogger losing now, at 04:49  

  • if pak wins this series 3-0, then, they become #3 where as, Eng & Ind will be joint #3...
    No hope of 3-0 win by pak is there ???

    By Blogger greg2rescue, at 04:51  

  • g2: wishful thinking. they may lose this test..and you know "faisalabad", it never gives faisala. So they better make the lahore pitch a turner for them to DRAW the series.

    By Blogger losing now, at 04:51  

  • another ridiculous article by Arjuna..
    http://us.rediff.com/cricket/2005/nov/14rana.htm

    Hell, this guy shld just quit writing...

    By Blogger greg2rescue, at 04:52  

  • west win!!1
    yay!!

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 04:54  

  • west wins...awesome stuf...

    By Blogger greg2rescue, at 04:55  

  • hurrah !! good job parthiv

    By Blogger GK, at 04:55  

  • wonder if they will give MOM to ZK just to agitate SG...

    By Blogger greg2rescue, at 04:56  

  • WEST wins. looks like Martin came and hit 3 4s on the trot.
    Tera kya hoga SG!
    Sarkar, maine teen wicket liye hai.
    Suar ke bachche, tujhe run banana they.
    kitni goli hai......

    By Blogger losing now, at 04:56  

  • greg2rescue, and why so? Is it because he writes that SG deserves to be treated better?

    By Blogger Santanu De, at 04:57  

  • santanu, no...he says preventions is better than cure, but, calls for SG's inclusion...Both are totally contradicting...Any case, If you were a SL supporter, then, you want SG to come in as opponent...

    By Blogger greg2rescue, at 04:59  

  • do they even have things like MOM in domestic cricket in india ?? i dont think so

    By Blogger GK, at 04:59  

  • Zaheer Khan is definitely a MOM contender; and I am sure SG won't be agitated. Players like him are much more mature than you or me.

    On a different note, I do think that Zaheer is the "best" seamer in the country today; you'll need him in the tests and I hope Rahul or Greg are not adamant in their actions.

    By Blogger Santanu De, at 05:00  

  • guys,
    arjuna has apoint. you may not like it but SG for sure wasnt an illusion and should nto be treated like one either. what i dont understand is ranatunga's apparent desperation to get SG back in the test side. with 2 ducks in the finals and a strenghthened maharashtra attack to face, SG,s chances of making it seem about as bright as a 10 watt bulb in the middle of an ocean

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 05:00  

  • santanu,
    how do you mean "best" ? based on records alone ? or what ?

    By Blogger GK, at 05:02  

  • santanu, "ZK is the best seamer in the country"...dude shows how much you know...It is 2:00 AM and I have to sleep. We will discuss ZK on this blog again if we get a chance...adios...

    By Blogger greg2rescue, at 05:02  

  • ha ha ha ha, ha ha ha ha,
    dischkiau, dischkiau, dischkiau
    jo haar gaya samjho mar gaya..
    ..and Ganguly's glorious career comes to end.
    Time for the holi-like celebration song

    By Blogger losing now, at 05:03  

  • I think Ranatunga also suggests that SG's erstwhile team colleagues should have been talking to him; and he dislikes the fact that everyone appears to think that SG's 15000 runs in international cricket and his contribution as captain over the last 5 years have been fluke!

    I am not talking about including him in the team; but there should be people who need to support him while he's trying hard to come back. Its a different matter whether he succeeds or not; but it definitely hurts for someone who fights a lonely battle.

    Its a shame when someone from a different country talks about supporting him in his difficult times; while here almost everybody loves to 'boo' him.

    By Blogger Santanu De, at 05:05  

  • santanu : boo!

    By Blogger losing now, at 05:09  

  • santanu,
    why worry ? u r there to support him.

    By Blogger GK, at 05:09  

  • losing now, finally it comes out in the open. For most of you guys, WZ (or SZ or NZ or CZ) is India; while EZ (or Bengal) is a team from outside India. Otherwise, whats so fun about WZ`winning? Parthiv Patel and Lahiri were two people to watch out for in this match, apart from ZK.

    However, the fact cannot be over-emphasized: its a crime to be a Bengali in India. You are treated almost as an outsider.

    By Blogger Santanu De, at 05:09  

  • santanu,
    i think the booing would have been a lot less vociferous had it not been for SG's absolutely disgusting and desparate desire to clutch onto the captaincy and thus his place in the team. had SG voluntarily given up the captaincy and concentrated on his batting i for sure beleive that majority of indians would have been supportive of his comeback effort. most of us are fickle fans and when someone takes advantage of loyalty to the degree SG did it does leave a bad taste.

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 05:10  

  • gk:I am talking about people who matter. you and I do not, as far as I know.

    By Blogger Santanu De, at 05:11  

  • santanu : i love rasagollas and sandesh man...and misthi dahi too. (now, do bengalis make them or the immigrant biharis in kolkatta!)

    By Blogger losing now, at 05:12  

  • k-slice, and who else other than tendulkar could ever do it? Do not expect everyone to be a tendulkar; people are humans and they are not always right.

    By Blogger Santanu De, at 05:12  

  • hey santanu,
    you need to smoke some of the good grass you guys have in that part of india and chill out dude. where the fuck did the" why else would you support west zone nonsense come from??? i am from the west zone. a friend of mine is the current maharashtra capt. besides why not support a winning team?? dude forget chip, you seem to have a whole block on you shoulder and please dont confuse it with the other block that exists there.

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 05:13  

  • santanu,
    u r getting it wrong mate, at least as far as i am concerned. i am from the west so naturally i shud support the west. and no i have nothing against bengal ... some of my best friends are bengalis ... i think basically they are brilliant wonderful ppl

    k-slice,
    i agree. besides i dont even boo ganguly ... im just not bothered abt him too much

    By Blogger GK, at 05:14  

  • santanu,
    i completely agree with you. humans make errors and ganguly's araldite like hold on the captaincy can be attributed to just that. but then other humans tend to bitch at them and spew at them? why not attribute that to human behaviour as well? you cant judge Sg with one pole and other mortals criticising him with another.

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 05:15  

  • gk/K-slice : the key q is "do you like rasagollas?". if you dont, you hate bengal man!

    By Blogger losing now, at 05:16  

  • losing now: you are just emphasizing my point. man will never be able to control his instincts with his brain; so you may continue to love "mishti doi" or "rosogulla"; or as someone else on this blog once pointed out, he loves "bipasha" and "koyena". but you would love these things (food or girls) even if they were non-Indian. Like we love chinese/ thai/ italian food; or love the brazilian girls. These are your instincts.

    By Blogger Santanu De, at 05:16  

  • santanu,
    i think you said u live next to Rahl Dravid. why dont u ask him sometime what is the situation vis-a-vis "supporting" SG ?

    By Blogger GK, at 05:17  

  • k-slice,
    current maharashtra captain is kanitkar, no ?

    By Blogger GK, at 05:19  

  • well, if you are from the west zone, no issues.

    By Blogger Santanu De, at 05:19  

  • i fonr one was all in favor of SG coming back as a batter. lets not be petty and start this shitty " you hate me because i am from XYZ " and i hate you because you are from ABC " bullshit on this blog. this is just a request. take it or leave it but i have seen blogs go to shit thanks to petty stuf fpeople start. on that note i shall now reduce the number of cuss words i seem to be writing!!

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 05:20  

  • nope
    it is now dhiraj jadhav. i have played with hrishikesh though and his brother now teaches me golf!!

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 05:21  

  • gk, as I told you earlier, RD is mostly non-committal about anyone or anything. Besides he has not been home for the last couple of months or more, and we may get to see him only in the third week of Dec.

    By Blogger Santanu De, at 05:21  

  • k-slice: please answer - do you like rasagollas?

    By Blogger losing now, at 05:22  

  • Jadhav is the Mah captain now.

    By Blogger Santanu De, at 05:22  

  • lsong,
    my experiences with roshogollahs isnt one i like recollecting.
    i ate 28 once because a friend iof mine challenged me to. then landed up in hospital puking straight for 4 days!!
    yes i do like them though.
    chamcham seems to be more my kinda thing.

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 05:22  

  • http://us.rediff.com/cricket/2005/nov/14rana.htm

    The FAT MOTHER F****R is back again with his stupid column.

    He states it was quiet logical to drop Jayasurya, but what i cant understand is why the hell is he blabbering like a mad dog (quiet illogicaly) about bringing back SG?

    Why is this fat stniky ass mother fu***r trying to put SG in good light? what does he have to gain?

    Or is he simply tryin to get a gig out of it by letting the indians quarrel about the issue?

    By Blogger rahul_fan, at 05:24  

  • k-slice : good ..so you like chamcham but do not like roshogollahs. that means you hate half the bengalis and you do not hate the other half. interesting

    By Blogger losing now, at 05:25  

  • oh jadhav is the captain already ? hope he does good.

    santanu,
    hope you get to have a nice tete-a-tete with Rahul in december ... if possible plz give him the link to my blog http://gamesupreme.blogspot.com
    i am a HUGE supporter and theres plenty of articles abt him there

    By Blogger GK, at 05:25  

  • and now pakistan on a roll 78/1 though knowing giles' luck he will get one soon

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 05:25  

  • kslice, lol!

    i thought I was the only crazy guy to have ever tried 20+; you seem to do that better. And yes, my experience was not good either; I spent the next couple of days in and out of towels. he he...


    losing now... a lot of bengali-speaking people I know don't like rosogollas. similarly a lot of bengali speaking people don't like bipasha. so, these points are frivolous.

    By Blogger Santanu De, at 05:26  

  • Ganging up against Ganguly

    It now seems more or less certain that Sourav Ganguly is not about to rejoin the Indian team. But this being India the impending board elections, of all things, may still turn things around in his favour and therefore he might still be able to make it to the Test team, some say.

    Which would be a double pity, for Sourav was the best batsman India has ever had in the one-dayers whereas his Test performance, with an average slightly over 40, has been below par.

    But the ignominious manner in which he was removed as captain and ejected from the team is completely in line with past procedure. Some of our most glorious and successful captains have usually suffered the same humiliation at the end of their careers.

    When Ajit Wadekar lost to England in 1974, in a series where India were once bowled out for 42, he was reportedly greeted with a garland of shoes on his return.

    In recent memory itself, in 1978, after losing the historic series against Pakistan Bedi was unceremoniously removed from office and Gavaskar appointed in his place. In 1982-83 after losing to Pakistan, again, Gavaskar was dumped and Kapil appointed in his place, on the eve of the World Cup.

    Azhar, once regarded as our most successful captain ended his career as a cricketing pariah. And now Ganguly, the badshah of this arena is being belted by banners of the following kind, on display at one of the One Day matches:

    Sachin-Blaster
    Rahul-Protector
    Sourav-Disaster

    Yet, Ganguly was once one of the biggest crowd pullers in this same country. This “God of offside” was the biggest hitter for years in a country where people mainly like to see “fours and sixers” when they watch any cricket.

    Like many erratic geniuses he was lazy to boot, which while getting a lot of people’s goat, quite endeared him to me. Except his inability to ever slide his bat while running — even Inzamam can do that. Despite that personal laziness, he cared deeply about winning and losing, at least for some time.

    So why is he so unpopular? One explanation lies in his personality. As David Runciman puts it, “The Australians seem to find India’s captain, the magnificently prickly and disdainful Ganguly, particularly loathsome, whereas one gets the feeling that they reckon Michael Vaughan to be a thoroughly decent bloke — more or less one of their own.

    Foreign players particularly dislike his lordly ways, including the county he represented in England, as being too Maharaja-like. You can’t make Steve Waugh wait for a toss or take off your shirt at Lord’s and expect to be liked in those places. But this refusal to be nice contains more than a grain of the attitudinal shift in Indian cricket that Sourav Ganguly presided over.

    It was during his captaincy that the Indian team first showed a sense of aggression, which is not the same thing as the passion to win. That had been there aplenty in teams preceding them but it was the first time that an Indian side showed the willingness to flaunt their bare flanks.

    He picked and backed players, although it sometimes led to prejudice. He managed to rub the Australians on the wrong side, many times over and that is highly desirable and pleasing. He managed to do all this in an era of “celebratisation of cricket.”

    Like football in Europe and like several sports in the US, India is now witnessing the rise of a new celebrity sports culture where players play, above all, for and as celebrity.

    While the cricket board remains informal and shadowy, the players themselves are in the very centre of the social and public life, acquiring a new kind of clout vis-a vis the management and the captain. Eventually Sourav Ganguly himself became a victim of the same trend.

    The money, the commercial, the media created a sanctified air for him but it did not do it for him alone. Players who came after him, and some of whom were groomed by him, as he discovered, could occupy the same pedestal as him.

    Perhaps, Sourav’s time was up even before Greg Chappell showed up. The players did not seem to be responding to him in the same way as earlier, possibly because he himself did not so badly want to win as earlier. The indifferent form compounded an indifferent attitude and whimsical musings. Yet why was he so unpopular in India?

    Azhar and Jadeja, against whom the charges were far more serious, never aroused the kind of loathing that Ganguly sometimes does. Perhaps because we can forgive cheating but not selfishness, the charge often made against Sourav. When all the money is made, all the celebrityhood achieved, it is difficult to remain motivated by that same 22 yards which started it all.

    His forced exit may yet rekindle the famous Cancerian pride and the fierceness of ambition that first made Sourav our dada. May be he can then warn the other celebrities, pre and post-natal, of Indian cricket, of the dangers off the field.

    By Blogger Yule, at 05:26  

  • losing,
    what i am a true fan of is hilsa. shit just thinking about it reminds me of when iw as akid and visited my aunt in calcutta. i used to literraly beg her to make it for me. my uncle, being the turd that he is used to buy it only when some football team played. so i used to ask my mom to time our visits around whenever they were playing!!

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 05:27  

  • greg, losing: sorry went around for a while...about not picking Afridi...yes surprising since he is doing pretty well off late (in tests also). But I can understand the line of thought to some extent. See the problem with picking Afridi is that he is neither a full test batsman nor a bowler. And picking him means losing out on a specialist in atleast one department. If only his test batting can add another dimension of reliability (when chips are down, or when they want to hold on for a while before launching the assault, or when he needs to complement a partner like Inzy etc) then he can be picked as the 6th batsman regularly, and chip in with the ball.

    That would also help them afford to keep Malik out (he's there also because they dare not go in with one spinner ;-) as a case-by-case basis. And Afridi and Razzaq can then he rotated based on pitch, ground conditions (so they need extra pace or spin).

    By Blogger worma, at 05:28  

  • btw, what do you think of the match situation now, losing? :-)

    By Blogger worma, at 05:29  

  • worma: I still think England wins this one!

    By Blogger losing now, at 05:31  

  • if pak gets a lead of 280-300 things might be a little sketchy for eng.

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 05:31  

  • and what the fudge is tresco doing!..spin in tandem against Pak...on a third day pitch...and that too docile spin of Udal and Giles!!!...someone watching?..are they turning prodigiously? (I laugh a silent in-my-mind laugh at using that word for Giles ;-))

    By Blogger worma, at 05:31  

  • gk, as much as I like Rahul, its not much fun talking to him. Actually he'll be in Bangalore for the match on 19th; I'll try to catch up with my journo friends and try to see whats the mood in the press. I'd like to see Zaheer back at least for the tests.

    frankly speaking, not so much bothered about SG myself: he is a rich man's son and a rich guy himself; has started his own academy last month (and also has plans of starting a school from next year) which should keep him very busy. just want folks to treat/ refer to him with respect.

    By Blogger Santanu De, at 05:32  

  • losing: ofcouse Eng have so far been the better team...but you agree that that middle order failure has opened a tiny bit of crack for Pak to exploit..no? Its upto their batsman to widen it as much as possible. Any lead over 150-200...I would give atleast *some* chance to Pak....anything above 250....a lot of chance for them.

    By Blogger worma, at 05:33  

  • santanu,
    u there ? cud u do me that favor ?

    By Blogger GK, at 05:33  

  • worma?
    maybe tresco using the same technique they used againt tendulkar: lets try and bore the batsment o death or to play a stupid shot against insipid bowling.
    i am sure he is turning the ball square on this wicket. wait a second. worma thats your question is a true googly(one that actuaslly turns) giles and turning the ball?? i dont think so mate!!

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 05:34  

  • k-slice LOL :-)...yeah Giles is so..umm..'consistent' ;-)

    By Blogger worma, at 05:35  

  • k-slice : Hilsa..mmmm,with strong mustard oil...hmmmmmmmmm. Shit, i forgot, if i like Hilsa,i like rasagollahs,sandesh and misthi dahi.. i must like Bengal. But i do not like SG now..so i must hate Bengal. I am so confused.

    Such screwed up logic by these SG fans. Come on, grow up guys. Saurav is not Bengal...Bengal is not Saurav. People, the reason SG is not in the Indian team is very obvious to those who look at the situation objectively. It is not the individual..it is the individual in a team environment that matters. I think the last few months of SG has all been SG the individual ..not SG the individual playing for team india. That is the reason he is out..and good riddance till he realizes and appreciates that fact.

    By Blogger losing now, at 05:36  

  • consistently boring. i assume thats what you mean!!
    surprisingly though this boring the batsmen out ploy seems to work for him. oh well to each his own.

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 05:38  

  • k-slice
    i do think damien martyn wud disagree with you on that ...

    By Blogger GK, at 05:39  

  • losing now: you have some logic to defend yourself now. But a very near and dear friend of mine once commented during the summer of '98 (when sourav was playing reasonably well) that he hoped earnestly that sourav starts failing miserably and does not make it to the Indian WC team (for '99). Since that shocking comment, I have seen a similar feeling among many people around me, even when SG played well.

    So its only natural that these people can voice their opinions louder now. How will you explain this?

    By Blogger Santanu De, at 05:41  

  • losing: i feel bad for you. how dare you insult the SG fan troop by irresponsibly suggesting that Sg and bengal are not one and the same?? get your facts right. infact if you hate SG you hate not just bengal but all the easter states combined. similarly you are an ungrateful traitor for not supporting SG's bid to keep the captaincy.
    on a removed note i want to go eat fish now thanks to you!!

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 05:42  

  • worma: not watching the game. but the captaincy appears odd. bowling "non-world class spinners" against Pak now. Maybe, they are trying to get the ball "old" fast so that they can reverse swing.

    By Blogger losing now, at 05:42  

  • hahahahahah
    gk i agree with the fact that martyn would disagree. but then again even you and i could get him out with a spinning(almost) delivery!!

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 05:43  

  • gk:did you get my reply?

    i have marked your blog and will try to pass it on, though i know Rahul does not like much to read articles praising him, as he's a person who's constantly working not to get success in his head.

    By Blogger Santanu De, at 05:44  

  • k-slice, huh ??

    By Blogger GK, at 05:46  

  • k-slice...get whom out? Martyn?..He's become a brilliant player of spin of late...so chose your words carefully ;-)

    losing: yep apparently it was just a bit of a gamble..Freddie back to try and reverse...and if these two survive this session (no matter how many runs) they can make Eng pay big time tomorrow.

    gk: yeah that ball to Martyn was great. Sure Giles can turn, and with some assistance and heart, get it to trouble good batsman. Just doesn't do it that often.

    By Blogger worma, at 05:47  

  • santanu,
    oh alrite ... thanks anyway

    By Blogger GK, at 05:47  

  • k-slice, quite funny!

    bengal maynot be SG but SG is bengal, as there are not many cricketers of considerable repute from that region. you may be able to appreciate that. bengal is not as rich as some other regions like mumbai or karnataka in terms of cricket; so its only natural that people tend to get passionate about him to an extent which may seem irrational.

    By Blogger Santanu De, at 05:48  

  • mr de: so a near and dear friend of you wanted SG to do bad even in 98..therefore, all other people who are "against" SG now, hate Bengal (and as K-slice suggests the entire East). Wow! Man,your friend must have some unique characteristics for him to represent "the rest of the humanity". Dude, i need to stop this discussion with you before i lose my senses. So I give up..and hear is something to quiet you down.
    "Saurav Ganguly is the greatest cricketer ever born in India. He has a birthright to play for Indian team for ever because he has scored 15000+ runs for India. Removing Saurav from team will be an affront to the people of Bengal and it will be tantamount to treating Bengal as a part separate from India. Hence Saurav will be Bengal's permanent representative in the Indian team". Happy.

    By Blogger losing now, at 05:50  

  • gk,
    i think giles turnis about 1 ball in every 10. also he isnt like kumble where he gets copious amounts of bouince either. thats what i meant when i said even you or i could get him out(it was a jioke)
    worma,
    martins true test will be when he faces murli, in srilanka on a turner. i understand that the odds wouldnt be in his favor but hell isnt that what great players of spin do?

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 05:51  

  • this slowing things down seems to be working again. interesting to see if the pakis lose patience and do something daft

    By Blogger GK, at 05:52  

  • worma: yep. 2 more wickets in the next 20 overs and England would seal it. BTW,do you know why they are only bowling 83 overs a day

    By Blogger losing now, at 05:53  

  • gk: a nice blog. i have marked it as a favorite.

    By Blogger Santanu De, at 05:54  

  • santanu,
    it is this myopic view that affects most of us here.
    bengal does have a bunch of excellent fopotbal teams doesnt it? i think every stae in our country ius famous for some sport. why the fuck do we have to be so petty and retarded in our thinking? i get that bengal hasnt produced to many players of SG's calliber but that doesnt mean that SG is bengal. its like saying bombay is sachin or rajgurunagar is zahir khan.

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 05:54  

  • k-slice
    u seem to be missing something ... martyn has ALREADY done SUPREMELY well against sl last year in SL ... it was then that he came to be regarded as australias best player of spin since mark waugh

    By Blogger GK, at 05:54  

  • santanu, thanks :-)

    By Blogger GK, at 05:55  

  • What happened to today's practice match of SA, folks? Any idea?

    By Blogger Chandan, at 05:57  

  • yes gk
    i was oblivious to that fact.
    thanks for pointing it out .

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 05:57  

  • k-slice...Martyn scored mountains of runs in the Aus tour of SL last time around..check it out.

    losing: no idea about the number of overs...thats news to me...been travelling..haven't caught up well with all the news

    By Blogger worma, at 05:58  

  • losing now: saw your message and i hope you read my earlier message too.

    "before I lose my senses"... did you have any left? :)

    Because if you had, you'd have understood that I was not making a case for his reinstatement, but to be treated with respect which I think he deserves. And though must agree that my friends do not represent the rest of humanity, I have heard/ read similar things from many different people. Once Navjot Singh went on record saying he wanted SRT to open because that way, he could see more SRT centuries. This was in a match (I think it happened only once) in which both Sehwag and Ganguly scored centuries.

    By Blogger Santanu De, at 06:00  

  • yeah what happened to South Frica today?
    graem smith and his young guns(his words) Vs Dravids destroyers. i can already see dravid saying to kallis: maa kaa doodh piya hain to short pitch kar.
    i seriously hope we can them so bad they should limp for a motn after we are done with them.

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 06:02  

  • santanu,
    wanting to see SRT centuries does not in any way mean that he dint want Sg to score centuries? its what you made it mean mate.

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 06:04  

  • k-slice, most people are myopic. you cannot help that. Only leaders of men are (sometimes) far-sighted.

    Sachin is not Mumbai because Mumbai has a legacy of producing great legendary cricketers. Also, Sachin is in a class apart; he is probably the only cricketer who is liked by all alike. My mom who does not quite understand whats a cover drive or a pull shot is, watches a cricket match only if Sachin is playing. She does not care much for Ganguly though. And she cannot stand a single word against Sachin, as if he is her son. If at all someone ever says, Sachin did not score for so many matches or something like that, she would say "you people are so ungrateful". The point I am trying to make is, we cannot compare Sachin Tendulkar with anyone else. He attained that god-status years ago.

    By Blogger Santanu De, at 06:06  

  • ok santanu,
    i guess its a little harder to get my point across to you then i had earlier assumed>
    never mind
    lets move on.
    good luck to SG and people treating him with respect.

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 06:07  

  • k-slice : rolling my eyes!

    By Blogger losing now, at 06:11  

  • ppl,
    what score do u think england will begin to worry abt chasing 200 ? 250 ?

    By Blogger GK, at 06:11  

  • worma: it is getting interesting now. next 16 overs could be crucial. if eng take 2 wickets they go on top, if pak scores 50 odd runs with no further damage..and they bat all day tomorrow or at least till team and get a 200+ lead. Match ON!

    By Blogger losing now, at 06:13  

  • gk : according to Worma, 200+. i am not watching..so cant tell.

    By Blogger losing now, at 06:15  

  • hmmm
    but i always find worma a little anti-england in his comments ... as i see it england have in the last year or so chased down sizeable totals quite comfrtably

    By Blogger GK, at 06:17  

  • ..and the wicket falls. Younis khan gone ! Flintoff strikes. 10 more overs to go today..and night watchman is in. 124/2 still 20 behind.

    Worma: are you sweating?

    By Blogger losing now, at 06:42  

  • every time Ganguly was fined or banned, The timing was interesting , have you noticed

    By Blogger team, at 06:43  

  • no team, nor do i care

    By Blogger GK, at 06:47  

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    By Blogger GK, at 06:47  

  • Will this match also be like one of ashes matches? 150 runs of lead is enough for pak to defend..

    By Blogger idli vade, at 06:48  

  • I think ganguly will prove a point or two in the ranji trophy match agaisnt maharashtra. thats the sure. he will be back with a bang.

    By Blogger idli vade, at 06:49  

  • chitragupta
    i dont think 150 will be enuf but we will see
    is bengal playing maharashtra ?

    By Blogger GK, at 06:52  

  • hahahahahgk
    that was what a call a quick pick up and throw. direct hit and team is stranded.
    team no offense mate just find the reply ammusing to a degree.

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 06:52  

  • yah gk. bengal vs maharashtra match is there before the first test..
    today flintoff threw his wicket away. very bad shot.. shoib got 2 other wickets which are cheap...

    By Blogger idli vade, at 06:54  

  • East Zone loses the final which they could have won once in 45 years. Runs on the board were insufficient. Final Scores,

    EZ = 150 & 181 (ducks in both the innings by the captain, Ganguly)
    WZ = 157 & 175

    Apart from losing here is another reason for losing. Look at the bowling card and overs bowled by bowlers,

    Bowling O M R W
    Paul 14.3 3 38 2
    Bose 7 2 21 0
    Ganguly 11 3 28 0
    Nadeem 14 1 51 1
    Lahiri 12 2 29 1

    By Blogger Shivam, at 07:01  

  • Btw Mohamad Kaif has only 5 first class hundreds with 131 being the heighest score. :-) Thats such a pathetic record considering hes been playing for quite some time now.. Many compare him to Dravid :-) Dravid had scored lots hundreds.
    Now dont say he has potential and this that. If he really had, then stats wud wuv shown that...Having sed that stats doesnt reflect everything.. But still you can mnake out if he is that talented..
    But the fact is that he sucks..

    By Blogger idli vade, at 07:01  

  • Mohd Kaif and Murali Karthik are two players who are highly overrated.. I agree kaif is a team man and a great fielded.. But the bottomline is he is not good enough in batting..

    By Blogger idli vade, at 07:04  

  • wats the issue chitragupta ? he has been travelling with the team - not got a chance to play too much FC cricket - of course i agree he is nowhere close to RD but he is a fair player nevetherless

    By Blogger GK, at 07:04  

  • good enuf for what chitragupta ?

    By Blogger GK, at 07:05  

  • yah hes been travelling with the team but still played 67 first class games right? so whats the issue scoring hundreds or one big hundred?

    By Blogger idli vade, at 07:06  

  • i meant not a good batsman.. its all media hype.. nothing more. also the only drive which he executes properly is the flick or the glance.

    By Blogger idli vade, at 07:09  

  • chitragupta,
    do you actually have a point or are you simply running your mouth>?

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 07:10  

  • k-slice, what point u want?

    By Blogger idli vade, at 07:11  

  • chitragupt,
    i guess he has made it to the team on media hype. wow i wish i could get him to do PR for me. shit at that rate i would be the prime minister of india !!

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 07:11  

  • any updates on the SA warm up game?
    BTW kallis is not too enthused with playing India before the Oz series..

    By Blogger SHRI, at 07:13  

  • Well played Tresco! But my suspicion is that Pak will get back strongly in the remaining matches. They have a history of being poor starters but they pick up as the series goes on.

    By Blogger Deepak, at 07:14  

  • Pak needs to make 3 bowling changes. Remove Akhtar, Shabbir (highly ineffective with his new action) and Kaneria (who Eng is playing with utmost ease). Bring in Naved Rana, Yassir Arafat/Umar Gul and Shahid Afridi (I think he is a better spinner than Kaneria plus he can bat as well).

    By Blogger Deepak, at 07:14  

  • Copying this message from another thread that I posted earlier this morning.....

    Pak-Eng match has taken a very interesting turn now. Any one wants to make a prediction for the ongoing match?

    My take: Pak will collapse in the 2nd innings and England will win.

    By Blogger Deepak, at 07:15  

  • k-slice,
    a few days ago one analysys has been posted which clearly shows his pathetic batting. i am not able to get that now..
    anyways i will agree with now that kaif is a terrific batter. he will become india captain for both odis and tests. he has already lead india seniors to win in challenger..
    he will defenately loft the 2007 world cup.. thats the sure

    By Blogger idli vade, at 07:15  

  • Kaneria has seldom taken wickets because he is unplayable or someone who troubles batsmen consistently. Rather, his strategy has been to bowl to death and "bore" the batsmen into playing silly shots, i.e. soft dismissals. Check the statistics and you will find the number of overs he has bowled in each match lately - its simply too much.

    By Blogger Deepak, at 07:16  

  • deepak
    shoaib and shabbir picked 7 wkts between them .. and kaneria is a proven performer

    By Blogger GK, at 07:16  

  • West Zone wins the Duleep Trophy.
    Man of the match: Ganguly, for toiling very hard and bowling at strategic instants to ensure pressure eased off the batting and West always had an upper hand

    In the post match interview where Ganguly was being felicitated, everyone was curious to know the inspiration for his magical turnaround, especially with the ball. First, Gangs refused to give away the secret. But on constantly being prodded and being the nice guy he is, he ultimately gave in and said: "Source of my inpiration is my protege Zak. When I first took the crease to bat in the first innings, Zak walked over to me, patted on my back and said: "C'mon, you can do it for us". It was a very emotional gesture and my eyes were filled with tears. Thank you, Zak"

    By Blogger Deepak, at 07:16  

  • for shantanu da

    no matter how carefully and politely you choose your words and explain each and every statement you make, people are and will attack you. people just don't get it. obviously people have forgotten dada in full cry. and that he is probably the only indian cricketer to make the aussie team cry by giving them the ausie attitude. and the last two years it seemed that not only members of the bcci but also icc and the acb and ecb were out to get him, hence the bans the constant commissions set up against him, and even after that he never lost his appetite for the game. smaller men and assorted losers would have thrown in the towel a long time ago. but not dada. but i guess everytime we say that technique and skill alone not a great player make, but attitude and courage of conviction define greatness, we will be out-shouted and probably insulted by the majority. however majority is not necessarily right. form is temprory, class permanent.

    By Blogger achu, at 07:17  

  • Parthiv Patel once again shone with the bat in the 2nd innings as well. Incidentally, I finally got to read the pitch report for this match in today's newspaper (irony is that it was in the TOIlet paper). "It was a true balanced pitch with something in it for bowlers and batsmen". He once again proved that he is one of the most reliable batsmen in India for playing on such pitches (read, abroad).

    By Blogger Deepak, at 07:17  

  • deepak,
    u confusing kanria with giles ?

    By Blogger GK, at 07:18  

  • Chappel, the Krishna.
    -------------------------------
    In the Chappel interview on Cricinfo, one of the questions:
    You've spoken about concentrating on the "processes" ( karma i.e. rightful actions) and not worrying about the results (phul i.e. fruit ). What exactly are these processes?
    I don't want to give too much away from the point of view of exactly what we're thinking about. But basically, if you're worrying about the outcomes (phul i.e. fruit ), about things you can't control, then you're going to get into trouble. We really focused on the areas that we can control ( karma i.e. rightful actions) and we're focusing on getting good in those areas. We're making sure that we engender the culture of creating successful habits ( karma ). That's something we've worked very hard on over the last few months and we saw the benefits during the Sri Lankan series.

    karmanye wadhikaraste........

    By Blogger Deepak, at 07:18  

  • Shoib got 3 wickets.
    2 are of tail
    And freddies wicket he got by luck. Freddie went for a heave and in the process got out..

    By Blogger idli vade, at 07:19  

  • right achu,
    and at the current moment Sg seems to lack both; form and class

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 07:19  

  • deepak
    u sure ur not reading too much into parthiv patels performancs ?

    By Blogger GK, at 07:20  

  • gk,
    Giles is good, better than Kaneria.

    By Blogger Deepak, at 07:20  

  • Shoib got 3 wickets.
    2 are of tail
    And freddies wicket he got by luck. Freddie went for a heave and in the process got out..

    By Blogger idli vade, at 07:20  

  • Shahid Afridi for Hasan Raza... Naved Hasan for Shabbir Ahmed... With Salman Butt and Afridi opening and Malik coming in at 6.. Three spin 3 pace option...and batting that extends to 7.

    By Blogger SHRI, at 07:20  

  • yes chitragupta .. but shoaib was no worse than say sami in this match

    By Blogger GK, at 07:20  

  • shri
    i agree with afridi for raza ... but dont think they can drop shabbir now .. maybe drop sami for rana

    By Blogger GK, at 07:22  

  • Giles is 1000 times bettern than our own Spain King Murali Karthik..
    However Karthik rates himself ahead of Daniel Vettori..

    By Blogger idli vade, at 07:22  

  • deepak
    surely you are kidding?
    kaneria has the ability to get subcontinental batters in a tizzy. couldnt say the same about giles without his negative tactics!

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 07:23  

  • deepak
    u severely underestimating kaneria .. he has lot of potential

    By Blogger GK, at 07:23  

  • Giles is 100000 times better than our own Spain King Murali Karthik..
    However Karthik rates himself ahead of Daniel Vettori..

    By Blogger idli vade, at 07:23  

  • good pick gk.. sami is a load of crap these days... and if they are playing on a green top.. gul for shabbir... he was a dream against india at lahore...

    By Blogger SHRI, at 07:24  

  • Murali Karthik is the Spain King

    By Blogger idli vade, at 07:24  

  • chitragupta
    did karthik tell you so himself ?

    By Blogger GK, at 07:24  

  • West Zone triumph in tense battle

    Cricinfo staff

    November 13, 2005

    West Zone 157 and 175 for 5 (Martin 52*) beat East Zone 150 and 181 by 5 wickets
    Scorecard

    Blunting the threat from the East Zone bowlers, West overcame some jittery moments and claimed their 16th Duleep Trophy title after a five-wicket win in the final at Ahmedabad. Chasing a tricky 175 for victory, on a pitch where all the batsmen found the going tough, West were limping at 35 for 3 before Jacob Martin, the former Indian middle-order batsman, came to their rescue.

    Martin, who currently leads Baroda, battled for nearly three-and-a-half hours and ground out a crucial 52 as West inched towards the target. He received support from Ramesh Powar and Parthiv Patel, who both contributed plucky 30s, as West crossed the tape a few minutes after tea on the third day.

    The game was on an even keel at the halfway stage, with West gaining a marginal seven-run lead in the first innings, but Zaheer Khan's fiery spell on the second afternoon, when he snapped up four wickets including Sourav Ganguly for a golden duck, proved vital. Sairaj Bahutule, West Zone's captain, wrapped up the tail and left their solid batting line-up with 175 to get.

    East, who have never won the Duleep Trophy, didn't surrender without a fight with Shib Shankar Paul, the Bengal medium-pacer, claming two quick wickets. But Martin ensured that West didn't collapse again and East, for the second time in three years, were thwarted at the final hurdle.

    By Blogger SHRI, at 07:24  

  • Looks like the Ganguly fans are targetting Kaif and Murali Karthik. Of course they need some place to fit in dada.

    Sigh! How the mighty have fallen!

    By Blogger vshan, at 07:24  

  • shri
    is gul in the squad ?

    By Blogger GK, at 07:25  

  • gk, Karthik didnt tell me he is better than dany vettoti.. But his interviews do convey that..

    By Blogger idli vade, at 07:26  

  • so.. are the wickets in domestic cricket in india tilted more towards the bowlers? have hardly seen the mountainous scores that were the norm in the indian domestic cricket scene in the 80s and the 90s

    By Blogger SHRI, at 07:26  

  • vshan
    u can add JPY to that list

    By Blogger GK, at 07:26  

  • gk.. gul was in the squad of 16..

    By Blogger SHRI, at 07:27  

  • MK was MoM in the last test he played... Think he can be effective.. Just a matter of confidence though.. and persistence..
    BTW how about playing Amit Mishra against the proteas?

    By Blogger SHRI, at 07:28  

  • All out hopes of an world cup final win will rest heavily on Murali Karthik's shoulder. Am sure he won disapoint us.
    Here is his bowling analysys in the world cup 2007 will look like.
    Australia will be chasing 287 for a win.

    Murali Karthik 10-2-24-7

    Players like gilly,punter and symonds will dance to his tune..

    By Blogger idli vade, at 07:30  

  • gk.. what is your blog again?

    By Blogger SHRI, at 07:30  

  • shri
    i wud have been interested in mishra against SA - unfo the selectors didnt think so

    By Blogger GK, at 07:30  

  • http://gamesupreme.blogspot.com

    By Blogger GK, at 07:31  

  • shri , murali karthil bowled well in that mumbai test.
    however i want to tell u that even Micheal clarke also got 6 for 9. That too agaisnt indian batters who are gud agaisnt spin

    By Blogger idli vade, at 07:32  

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