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Thursday, September 08, 2005

THE ASHES: T5, Day 1 - Open Thread

Right...the big game...the series decider...the proverbial changing of guard...the supposed milestone in modern cricketing history...the cliched mother of all battles...the...the open thread :-)

And meanwhile, if you can't seem to have enough of it, and if you haven't seen this one already, here read Waugh's stirring reminder to the Aus team of what they are capable of, and how they should go about their business in the crunch game.

Some of it is inane, but it does give an idea of the kind of motivator Waugh can be, besides the good tactician and doggedly determined person that we already know him as. Anyone thinks he can be next in line for the top job?

484 Comments:

  • Anyone knows the weather forecast for day one?

    By Blogger Rishi Gajria, at 03:19  

  • rishi
    no rain forcasted for today. there might be rain tomorrow

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 03:54  

  • Rishi, here is the link for the weather forcast.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/cricket/england/4205934.stm

    Basically, Fri, Sat & Sun look dodgy...

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 04:05  

  • what a shame it woul dbe if rain became an important factor in deciding where the ashes went. does anyone want to take the rist of predicting who will win?

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 04:17  

  • k-slice, game is too close to call. England have been the better side in this series but Aussies are still the World-champions.

    Let's hope rain does not spoil the fun, but deep down I wont mind it considering I already have a bet from last year that England would win the Ashes.

    Besides, the Aussies got away with the rain in Old Trafford...

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 04:39  

  • Saurabh
    thats the direction i am leaning towards as well. its funny but i too have a bet with a friend dating back to the 97 series that england lost that eng would win the ashes in the next 10 years. fortunately they hav got the chance to do that in 8 years itself!! the bet was that i would have to shave every single strand of hair above my neck so i really really want eng to win. i think they will but i dont want to jinx them by saying they will win.

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 04:49  

  • Steve Waugh is my God. :)

    By Blogger ClannZú, at 05:01  

  • k-slice, there was a bit more logic to my reasons for betting and thankfully, I did not bet my hair (and all)!!!

    I made the bet after watching their performance in West Indies. There was something special in the way they were begining to play.

    Funny enough, this is what Richie Benaud had to say about that series in his interview last week:

    "I was sitting at Square leg watching Harmison bowl to the West Indies and said to my wife; We are seeing something magical here"

    Now, i am no Ritche Benaud, but I think I do know my cricket :-)

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 05:02  

  • clannzu, there is only one God, and he is the guy with the dodgy arm.

    And i don't mean the arrogant Aussie...

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 05:04  

  • logic aside i think it was a good bet. i remeber in the 97 series the poms have the aussies a good scare. as far as you and ritchi benaud thinking along the same lines oh well we all have our fluke predictions!! dude the last part was juat a joke. does anyone know when the game starts?

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 05:04  

  • Michael Vaughan wins the toss. The crowd roars in the background and the Vaughan is just beaming.

    By Blogger IssaicN, at 05:05  

  • Pat Murphy, BBC radio:

    "The toss is not necessarily all-important. Two years ago South Africa scored 484 on the first day and England were booed off the pitch. They won that match by nine wickets on the Monday"

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 05:06  

  • are they batting first?

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 05:07  

  • k-slice, Agree about flukes, etc.

    Actually this is the last time I will try to predict anything in sport especially when two eavenly matched teams play.

    I am sure People will predict "Great, England will bat first and score 500".

    Remember, its a funny old game....

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 05:11  

  • I think (and not predict), England should see this game through assuming they score 400+ in the first innings and we lose a day to rain...

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 05:13  

  • ok cricinfo is slower than usual and that isnt terribly fast to begin with. so guys if any of you are watching the game live please post the scores as and when you get a chance.
    thanks a million

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 05:15  

  • My prediction for the game -
    Kevin Pietersen finally holds on to a diving catch of McGrath with Australia falling 2 runs short of victory on the last day. England win the series 3-1 and with that The Ashes. :) :) :)

    saurabh - whom do you mean with the dodgy arm...Sachin Tendulkar ? Say it isn't so !!!

    By Blogger ClannZú, at 05:17  

  • k-slice, try BBC. You can actually get the radio commentary as well...

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 05:17  

  • yes clanzzu, but i was being sarcastic...

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 05:18  

  • Crap - Ponting's luck with the toss is getting to hurt the Aussies. When he won ad Edg, he chose the wrong decision to bowl first.

    By Blogger vshan, at 05:20  

  • Paul Collingwood is in the team.

    By Blogger ClannZú, at 05:21  

  • No vshan, its not his luck, but his uninspired leadership that is hurting the Aussies...

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 05:22  

  • Anyone watch the Andre Agassi-James Blake quarter-final ? Some match that...really quality tennis from both players...I was almost rooting for Blake the way he played the first couple sets. Then Andre started showing why he's such a champion...one of the best matches I've seen.

    By Blogger ClannZú, at 05:25  

  • thanks saurabh

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 05:28  

  • They are showing all of the key moments in England's performance this series on the big screen at The Oval. What a sight for the Aussies just as they are about to walk on to the ground...the English are using everything they can to get an edge over the Aussies.

    By Blogger ClannZú, at 05:28  

  • so, saurabh, they choose Collingwood as we thought...and Aus finally have their best 4 in the attack

    By Blogger worma, at 05:29  

  • greetings all.
    so England bats. ominous signs for australia, with a belter of a pitch.

    (and yes, the blake v agassi match was amazing!)

    By Blogger shakester, at 05:29  

  • clannzu, a bit unfair. Isn't Ponting going to complain its not in the spirit of the game?

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 05:30  

  • hey akr, welcome here :-)...yeah ominous signs for Australia...and now its all upto the 'elbow'...how well it holds up

    By Blogger worma, at 05:30  

  • saurabh:
    haha. that, or he'd start defending his captaincy again- the screen messed it up...

    By Blogger shakester, at 05:31  

  • thanks worma. keeping with comments here is a bit tough innit?
    :)
    'the elbow' is crucial, but I have my doubts....

    By Blogger shakester, at 05:31  

  • But Worma, the 4 is not 5 :-)

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 05:32  

  • doubts about the fitness or in general doubts about his ability ? How dare you ;-))....yep the comments keep comin here like crazy

    By Blogger worma, at 05:33  

  • doubting his ability? c'mon, how could I...:)
    No, I meant I am not sure how effective he will be, or if rather if he will be able to win this for them...

    By Blogger shakester, at 05:34  

  • yeah saurabh, I never had doubts that it would be 4 if McG played...they are going to go back to ALL their time tested methods...attacking, agressive (maybe even sledging etc)...I think they are going to put up the old show...whether their performance matches it or not

    By Blogger worma, at 05:34  

  • Pat Murphy, Radio Five Live

    "Did you know Marcus Trescothick averages 85 in Tests at The Oval?"

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 05:35  

  • mcgrath lookign good according to the commentators on bbc'

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 05:35  

  • yes he did look pretty good in that first over. nothing nasty, but he looked himself, and on line...

    By Blogger shakester, at 05:36  

  • Damn, the pressue is amazing. Feels like the world cup finals!

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 05:36  

  • saurabh, so true! the zimbabwe tour pales in comparison....

    By Blogger shakester, at 05:37  

  • akr, he rarely looks nasty. Just has this uncanny ability to take wickets :-)

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 05:38  

  • how I wish Aus had won the toss...atleast we would then have seen Eng in all the possible scenarios..

    By Blogger worma, at 05:38  

  • 4 by tresco

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 05:38  

  • saurabh you are a life saver. i can actually listen to the commentary instead of following cricinfo

    thanks again

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 05:39  

  • Lee bowles on leg stump and Tresco flicks it to square leg for the first 4 of the test. Lee getting good out-swing...i.e coming in to Trescothick.

    By Blogger ClannZú, at 05:39  

  • sure, he's never nasty like harmy was the first morning at Lord's or something...but there was not lots of close stuff in that over is what i meant

    By Blogger shakester, at 05:41  

  • tresco gets a reprieve !

    By Blogger worma, at 05:44  

  • close call almost gave him. lee to tresco survives.

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 05:44  

  • nah, not really close, k-slice. is that what the commentary made it sound like?

    By Blogger shakester, at 05:45  

  • yep...they said even on replay it was a close one

    By Blogger worma, at 05:46  

  • yup
    they said on any other day that would have been given out.

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 05:47  

  • It was clearly going down leg...is it me or Australia don't look as pumped as one would like them to be.

    By Blogger ClannZú, at 05:47  

  • 4 byes
    mcgrath

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 05:49  

  • I guess we have gotten used to seeing them 'pumped' because they have been celebrating wickets pretty quickly in tests over the last few years....:)

    By Blogger shakester, at 05:50  

  • ball jagged off the pitch, leaping gilly cant make it, nearly took Warne's hands off at 1st slip though!
    strauss looking a bit scratchy

    By Blogger shakester, at 05:51  

  • worma
    if you are watching the game can you let us know if there is actually lots of swing or if the bbc commentaors are exaggerating a bit

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 05:52  

  • if aussie catch well...I cannot see this pair seeing through their early spell...never :-)

    By Blogger worma, at 05:52  

  • McGrath bowling at pretty good pace...going even up to 88.3 mph on the 2nd last delivery.

    By Blogger ClannZú, at 05:52  

  • my take-decent swing. Not the kind you'd say makes for amazing bowling conditions. Besides, it so damn sunny!:)

    By Blogger shakester, at 05:53  

  • There is decent swing and seam but neither McGrath nor Lee have really pitched it up much yet.

    By Blogger ClannZú, at 05:53  

  • k-slice...not watching mate, akr is I think

    By Blogger worma, at 05:55  

  • edged 4 by tresco

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 05:55  

  • 4 more through mid-on by tresco

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 05:56  

  • they're ripping Ponting a bit, and with just cause I'd think- he's going with 2 slips for Lee, this early- dont make sense to me. Tresco just played a four through about 4th slip region. who knows if it would have carried, but two slips?
    dunno....

    By Blogger shakester, at 05:56  

  • england 20/0

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 05:56  

  • yeah thats not clever cricket..ponting has done it throughout the tour...but this early !

    By Blogger worma, at 05:57  

  • but of course, you can't blame him if the ashes go to england, ok?
    :)

    By Blogger shakester, at 05:58  

  • He has 3 slips and gully for McGrath. Didn't notice there were only 2 for Lee...will look in the next over.

    By Blogger ClannZú, at 05:59  

  • come on AKR it never seems to be the captains fault when a team loses. i thought you woul dknow that by now!!(immense sarcasm implied) look at our own SG. if he can do it im sure ricky can follow!

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 06:00  

  • k-slice....not to divert too much from the 'good' cricket that we are having here...but what exactly has our own SG done?

    By Blogger worma, at 06:02  

  • refused to take blame for our loss.
    4 more by strauss

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 06:03  

  • not to put too fine a point on it, worms, but precisely:
    what has he done
    [and with that I bow out of this before we hijack tis thread:)]

    By Blogger shakester, at 06:03  

  • (for the record- i am not a ganguly basher/hater)

    By Blogger shakester, at 06:04  

  • 4 more in front of square by staruss

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 06:05  

  • k-slice did he? didn't know that? And anyway...the point with RP is that he is 'doing it in advance'..which is shocking. When its time for post-mortem then sure there has to be some leeway, but still some responsibility take by captain. I don't see any relation between RP and SG here.

    By Blogger worma, at 06:05  

  • get the feeling England will have to screw up to end up with a bad 1st innings score, the conditions are much in favour-
    and there a jaffa from mcgrath to tresco. beaten outside the off.

    By Blogger shakester, at 06:06  

  • akr...ok, stopping 'this' now :-)...u can return safely!

    By Blogger worma, at 06:06  

  • commentators criticising lee saying he hasnt bowled well in england at all. saying that he has bowled good balls to get wickets(no shit) and then gives away runs.

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 06:06  

  • Ok the field for Lee...2 slips and Hayden at sort of a short point. There is backward point which is almost at 40 yards or so...that would be outside the inner circle that is there in ODI's.

    By Blogger ClannZú, at 06:06  

  • worma we can continue this during the break.

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 06:07  

  • what commentary are you on, k?
    Sky introduced him as one of the star performers for Australia in this series...
    (i'd tend to agree)

    By Blogger shakester, at 06:08  

  • driven by strauss 4 more. overpitched by GM

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 06:08  

  • so do i AKR. the bbc commentators dont agree
    4 more by strauss

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 06:09  

  • k-slice...lets not :-)..this thing has no end...I will probably start a separate thread on this sometime, when 'real' cricket around the world is on low. Lets just remember that RP is now going through the first real test of his life(Ind tour could have been one, but he wasnt there). So lets watch and see where he stands, before comparing him to ANY other captain in the world

    By Blogger worma, at 06:09  

  • tait's in

    By Blogger shakester, at 06:10  

  • tait coming on

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 06:10  

  • ok worma i agree

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 06:11  

  • akr, I dont think Lee has been a star performer with the ball. He has improved his game, is not as rubbish in the latter half of the game, has developed a decent tendency to come back. But 'star' ? He's never even taken 5 wkts..he's still a support cast, isn't he?

    By Blogger worma, at 06:11  

  • appeal turned down. inside edge

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 06:12  

  • another shout tait to tresco. down the leg and pitching out too, for sure, but he's getting some decent shape

    By Blogger shakester, at 06:12  

  • thx k-slice. nothing personal, just that it spoils the whole party :-)

    By Blogger worma, at 06:13  

  • not a problem at all worma

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 06:13  

  • supporting whom, though? given how the rest of the attack (barring warne) has performed, and that the Master has missed two tests, he has been supporting basicvally warne. I mean, in that sense, I think no one but Warne has been a star performer for the side. But it is relative to the team performance, and in that I think he's been pretty good.

    By Blogger shakester, at 06:14  

  • commentators say there are more boundaries hit today because the ropes are closer in. 15-20 yards closer than what they used to be

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 06:15  

  • hmmm. havent noticed or heard that, k. interesting.

    By Blogger shakester, at 06:15  

  • quite true akr...a support cast with the hero missing...story of the whole Aus performance this series...even with the bat!

    By Blogger worma, at 06:15  

  • There is a deep square leg & fine leg for Tait. And again deepish point with 2 slips & gully. Don't know why there are 2 fielders in the deep for Tait when he isn't bowling short and neither is he supposed to when the ball is still new.

    By Blogger ClannZú, at 06:16  

  • 4 more to tresco pulled away even with those 2 in the deep. safe shot though

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 06:18  

  • Only fine leg for McGrath k-slice...and Tresco was in control of the shot. There are 2 fielders in the deep for Tait only.

    By Blogger ClannZú, at 06:19  

  • rod marsh is one of the bbc commentators i dont know who the other is

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 06:19  

  • 50 for no loss.

    By Blogger shakester, at 06:19  

  • 4 more to tresco. 50 up for england

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 06:20  

  • rod marsh criticizin RP says he isnt attacking enough and has set a one day field instead of a test field.

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 06:21  

  • time to get the hero in action?

    By Blogger worma, at 06:22  

  • 4 more to tresco straight shot

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 06:22  

  • Lee's bowled well, but at his pace, he cannot bowl more than 5-6 overs. Ditto Tait. Assuming they bowl three spells in a day, that's 30-35 overs taken care of between then.

    And the other 55/60 overs? McGrath with a dodgy elbow is expected to bowl 20/25 and Warne 30/35 on the first day of a Test!!!

    I am begining to sound like Prem, but show me a logic someone!!!

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 06:22  

  • k-slice it might be Thorpe...

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 06:23  

  • saurabh i think these two(tait and lee) might be bowled in short bursts and multiple times. i think this will be a slightly long spell fopr now but later on they will bowl multiple 4 over spells.

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 06:24  

  • warne's warming up

    By Blogger shakester, at 06:24  

  • saurabh - every team has a stock bowler...usually the spinner who bowls the bulk of the overs and holds one end up. Don't see anything wrong here.

    By Blogger ClannZú, at 06:24  

  • 4 more to tresco

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 06:25  

  • saurabh, sounding like Prem is good :-)...but yeah why not ? Isnt that what they have done for some time now ? Even with Gillespie and Kasper...its not more than 20 apiece for pacers..and 30 for Warne ?

    By Blogger worma, at 06:26  

  • am off guys.
    work, to home.
    (just as warne tells ponting the field he wants to bowl over#14 of the innings)

    By Blogger shakester, at 06:27  

  • akr, see you later then. Doesnt look like Aus will do much in this one either. Unless hero has other ideas.

    By Blogger worma, at 06:29  

  • hero is The Man.
    strauss drives, edges through for a four . with that I am off. A Warne special would be awesome. enjoy guys

    By Blogger shakester, at 06:30  

  • No, Gillespie and Kasper could bowl 40+. And they rarely bolwed for the entire day to the opposition. In fact, in the last 50 tests, they did not have to bowl to the opposition for more then 90 overs on 26 occasions!

    Worma, kill me, but you need that 10 overs from somewhere :-)

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 06:32  

  • Drinks! Some respite for the Aussies...

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 06:33  

  • Ponting is giving some kind of pep talk...lets see how the team responds.

    By Blogger ClannZú, at 06:34  

  • yeah, thats true, they didnt have to bowl for an entire day so many times. btw Lee, Tait will also bowl 40+ (bad overs) I think.

    Then there is Katich and Ponting :-)

    Actually its about good bowling, if you're bowling well....its gets you going for that additional burst....

    By Blogger worma, at 06:36  

  • rod marsh tearing into RP's captaincy. says that RP has been way to defensive and is trying to paper over his lack of bowling power (if one might dare call an attack with warne and GM that!!) by setting lame fields,
    4 more to staruss as i type that

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 06:36  

  • 56/74 runs have been scored in boundaries. 14 boundaries so far and this is supposed to be a test match!!

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 06:38  

  • Worma, that's my point. 4 bowlers worked in the past. Great! But it isn't working now. So f#@$£@# Change...

    And if England pile on the runs, you will need to score more runs, negating the extra batsman.

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 06:39  

  • saurabh - let it out...say fuck all you want. :)

    By Blogger ClannZú, at 06:41  

  • OK guys. Looks like the Ashes are finally back with England. I am writing the Aussies off early - judging by the way they have bowled so far.

    Unless Warne decides to do a one man act - bowl, field (take catches that is) and bat and win the test.

    This is a sure goner for Australia - how the mightly have fallen. With or without McG, their bowling is toothless.

    So a question. Was this a sudden development? No. The bowling was toothless without McG and Warne since 2003. Remember how Lee went for 100+ against us and the other including McGill could not nothing?

    They did not do anything to plug that gap. Tait has been in the wings since 2003. They talked about him as the next Aussie spearhead - but was not given the necessary exposure in tests. Now he is expected to do something in a series where the Aussies are rising losing the Ashes after loooong time. The best way to groom him would have been when they were on top against less accomplished opposition.

    Have they groomed another spinner? McGill is also getting old and after Warne and probably a year or two of McGill the cup board looks barren.

    And their batting is nothing home to write about. Maybe Hodge and maybe Haddin. But they do not have quality replacements for Hayden, Langer, Martyn and GilC - Hayden has seen a slump for quite a long time now. The Aussies did not wake up then. Now it is too late. At least with the others, it has come suddenly in a burst - cannot plan for such a huge form slump, I agree. But with Hayden, they clearly were blind folded by his stats. And we all blame the BCCI for persisting with Ganguly! :-)

    So - for all the credit the Indian media and other well known cricket commentators have given the Aussies for their immaculate planning, decision making, etc; about their ruthlessness in dealing with ex-stars (read Steve Waugh, Mark Taylor); about how professional their approach is - we are reduced to commenting on how poorly planned their Ashes tour is. Poor team planning; poor team selection; poor itenary (how come they agreed to play so many ODIs ahead of their test series?); poor this and poor that!

    The gist, my friends, is that we tend to see the pores as small or minute when the team does well. the same pores appear as gaping holes when the team does bad or loses.

    So the mighty have fallen - fallen to their own hype and McG and Hayden may be contracting the foot in mouth disease.

    Any action by Cricket Australia would not be only a postmortem - like what most other cricket boards do. So much for professionalism and planning. So much for vision and so much for being the cricket board with a difference.

    I am signing off now. Will go home and catch the action live.

    bye

    By Blogger vshan, at 06:41  

  • yeah saurabh, agree that will happen, and they could have thought of an additional bowler. Dont know though what they would have done with McGill also. Its looking hopeless for them....and the way they are throwing it towards Warne, it shows a looser mentality on their part.

    By Blogger worma, at 06:41  

  • tresco swings and misses dangerous shot

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 06:42  

  • what a start.. very positive start from Eng. Warne is the smartest !

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 06:42  

  • Jonathan Agnew, on BBC Radio

    "Apparently yesterday Al Jazeera were here filming in the nets - that's how much cricket has taken off"

    Looks like Bin Laden is getting bored in the caves and wants some entertainment...

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 06:43  

  • yeah - Warne in the 13th over. Now what - are we playing a ODI? Since when did Warne bowl within the first hour of a test match. Looks like Ponting has given up on his other bowlers.

    By Blogger vshan, at 06:44  

  • ODI? - scoring rate makes it look as though it's 20-20.

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 06:45  

  • vshan, he gave up on his bowlers as early as second over!...with the kind of field he gave them

    By Blogger worma, at 06:45  

  • vshan i dotn blame him for giving up. tait isnt good enoguh right now, mcgrath doesnt look dangerous and lee isnt doing it. now all hope he has lies in the wrist of waqrne

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 06:45  

  • Tresco has a very simple approach to batting - score runs! don't get tied down by nitty gritties..

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 06:46  

  • k-slice...atleast I would like to see McG and Warne in tandem..their best combo for stangle and attack..lets see when RP comes to this

    By Blogger worma, at 06:47  

  • Hmm - 2nd over? So the great Aussies are defensive from the beginning when they know that their attack lacks teeth. and we blame our captains when they go on the defensive in tests. Going by the kind of bowlers we had (and even now it is not very different), I am surprised Indian team's captains show even some sense of aggression. :-)

    Ganguly appears to be a genius now!

    By Blogger vshan, at 06:48  

  • oh boy... Tait's bowling does not make England miss Gillispie that much at all...

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 06:48  

  • worma - McGrath has already bowled 7 overs...there is no point in over-bowling him.

    By Blogger ClannZú, at 06:49  

  • Warne...as usual...gets one

    By Blogger worma, at 06:49  

  • gone
    thats then end of

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 06:49  

  • what a catch ! here begins the big slide!

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 06:50  

  • clannzu, agreed...lets see though how soon he comes back to this

    By Blogger worma, at 06:50  

  • worma i completely agree. those are his 2 best bowlers. let them bowl intandem, create pressure and get it done. the worst thing that can happen is that they will get hammered which isnt different from whats going on right now

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 06:51  

  • bowl this guy that guy - don't the teams and the players know that. they are the best in the business guys... let them do what they think is the best!

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 06:51  

  • I would get Lee from the other end now. just for a couple of overs. and then McGrath before Lunch...

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 06:52  

  • one of the best catch in the series..look at that replay..

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 06:53  

  • should Ponting bring himself on... should surprise the heck out of MPV - he got the wicker in the last test. !

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 06:54  

  • Warne and his reactions...this guy creatures pressure just by oohing and aahing with every delivery.

    And here comes McGrath...so worma your wishes have come true. :)

    By Blogger ClannZú, at 06:54  

  • I guess Ponting has a direct line to the blog sites... there comes the bowling change!

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 06:55  

  • ok clannzu...RP has some senses left atleast :-)

    By Blogger worma, at 06:56  

  • Aleem Dar has been subbed out?? - Billy was done with the series I thought..

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 06:56  

  • No they keep shuffling the umpires throughout the series. Ponting has more attacking field now...a short cover and gully + 3 slips when Vaughan is batting. But reverting back to 2 slips for Strauss.

    By Blogger ClannZú, at 06:58  

  • ON channel 4:
    Tony Greg when he landed in India as the England captain said
    Glad to be in the greatest country.. where the best umpires are in the businesss ! in the era of home upires.
    something to that effect...
    what a pull shot..

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 06:59  

  • yacrik,
    this entire blog is just opinions, worma and i were simply expressing ours. i dont see anything wrong with that.

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 07:00  

  • 4 more to vaughan

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 07:00  

  • what a drive! is he the best batsman in world at the moment!

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 07:01  

  • holy shit the bbc commentators just compared vaughan to len hutton. wonder what they are smoking!!!

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 07:01  

  • k-slice - agree - I expressed my opinion! can't have both ways...:)

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 07:02  

  • My mom told me that Tony Greig was a really popular cricketer in India...he would stand near the boundary and talk to the crowd and do dance moves and such.

    By Blogger ClannZú, at 07:02  

  • absolutely yackric. i respect it. nothing personal just expressing my opinion about your opinion about my opinion. hehehee. sorry just felt like acting like a 4 year old for a second!

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 07:03  

  • I seem to agree with BBC guys (if that is what they said) - he is the best batsman on display. vert pleasing strokes he has.. no ugly slice over the slip fielders

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 07:03  

  • 20 overs in 1.5 hours with a spinner bowling.

    Wonder if the ICC will take notice of this!

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 07:04  

  • Vaughan ? The best batmsen ? Hardly but I think he has the talent to be up there with the best...he just tends to get himself out even when is well set.

    By Blogger ClannZú, at 07:04  

  • Vaughan's got the best cover drive in the business. But it also leads to his downfall...

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 07:05  

  • saurabh, they wont. Atleast we wont get to hear of it.

    By Blogger worma, at 07:05  

  • thanks k-slice - my take is that we should enjoy cricket as a spectator sports. we need to focus on our job - they should do their's . i want to focus on the joy side of things - and leave coaching and arm-chair-experting to others.

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 07:05  

  • He use to be a compulsive "cover-driver" but started getting out (caught at slips). So he started controlling that shot. and now he gets out bowled :-)

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 07:06  

  • saurabh i really think RD is up there with him as is SRT or even Atta[patu

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 07:07  

  • saurabh - the over rates have been very poor throughout the series but no action has been taken. I think Ranjan Madugalle is the match referee for this series.

    By Blogger ClannZú, at 07:07  

  • MPV - may not go on and break many individual records - but whatever runs he makes... the way he gets is superb!
    simply eye pleasing... I'm looking for good cricket , great shots than some records to be broken by endless running the ball down to thirdman

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 07:07  

  • yacrik, then you are in the wrong forum.

    We all claim to be the 'experts' here :-)

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 07:08  

  • Besides it has been started by an arm-chair critic, so what else did you expect :-)

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 07:09  

  • yacrik - if you just want to sit back and enjoy the games then fine...but don't expect everyone else to do the same. I think its fine to be opinionated about things as long as one can back it up.

    By Blogger ClannZú, at 07:09  

  • hey saurabh i dont need to claim im an expert. thats obvious mate!!

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 07:09  

  • RD might be technically correct and might make a lot of runs - but his drives and strokes are pleasing? he looks good in defense - but always trying for deflections and flicks - very rarely goes for drives and pulls - shots that make cricket so amazing..we need more guys like that

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 07:09  

  • ok guys apparently billy asked warne to stay off the wicket. does anyone else remember a spinner being asked to stop creating rough for himself???

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 07:10  

  • k-slice..official warning?

    By Blogger worma, at 07:11  

  • commentators talking baout how warne has half a tonne of steel holding his arm fingers together. makes him sound like a robot!!!

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 07:11  

  • clanzu: opinions are opinions - they are not facts! EVERYONE has some.. that's ok... if it makes the life better yes bring it on... but as mature individuals we need to control our mind and not pour out in public... there I go again

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 07:12  

  • nope worma
    just a polite reminder to stay off the wicket. i thought it was official. it wasnt

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 07:12  

  • strauss cuts for 4. looks like he has decided to get it done. 100 up for england. guess to RP's Cgargrin they will go to lunch at 130 for 1!!!

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 07:13  

  • wahi - wrong forum? don't know - will soon find out.

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 07:14  

  • Dravid hooks more than pulls...he has a beautiful on-drive and square drive. I think Chris Gayle is a treat to watch...very unorthodox but has that West Indian bravado about his batting. Damien Martyn is also very graceful but the guy I most love to watch is Brain Charles Lara. That man is pure class.

    By Blogger ClannZú, at 07:14  

  • what was that about Flintoff and a kid - I had it on mute.

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 07:14  

  • clanzu i think that, imo has a lot to do witht he fact that lara is a left hander. all lefties look sweet when they drive. well atleast the accomplished batsmen. remember what RD had to say about SG's off side game?

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 07:15  

  • WOW..warne another one :-)

    By Blogger worma, at 07:16  

  • gone vaughan

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 07:16  

  • Drivid's on-drive and sqaure drive - how often does he pull it out of the bag...
    Warne pulls one out.. what a brilliant catch.... Pietesen must be happy he is not the one in the area waiting for that catch.

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 07:17  

  • and Eng continue their habit of throwing away wkts. Right throughout the series. I wish atleast once Aus make them realise it.

    By Blogger worma, at 07:18  

  • yacrik...didn't get what you're saying regarding opinions. Yes, everyone has opinions but you don't have to heed them.

    About Flintoff and the kid...I think it was Atherton's kid...he wanted to meet Fast Freddie.

    By Blogger ClannZú, at 07:18  

  • RD was just sucking up to SG - SG's offside shots are usually pathetic - slash or dance down the wicket - both are ugly

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 07:18  

  • 30 wickets in this series to warne

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 07:19  

  • yacrik??? i can understand SG bashing but that man has a sexy off drive. remember his debut game. he was driving so well.

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 07:20  

  • there lies Englands biggest problem: Numbers 3 & 4!

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 07:20  

  • I guess it is left to Strauus to get a hundred... once set he is a difficult customer. but with Warne you never know when he will pull out a majic

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 07:20  

  • oh well they do have fabulous freddy and KP to come so i wouldnt be terrbly worried

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 07:22  

  • If SG has one - he has done a great job of hiding it from the public! No, I did not see his debut game or his 144 agianst Aus. if you look at the CI B-B-B, it's all slash and edge... but all of a sudden he gets his 100 from nowhere. very few good 4s in that.

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 07:23  

  • Warne's great. My respect for Warne has gone up after this series...

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 07:23  

  • yacrik i dont know if he has hidden it. am i the only one here who thinks SG has a sweet off drive?

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 07:25  

  • saurabh you might have been about 5 odd years slow in figuring that out!! just kidding mate!!

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 07:25  

  • Bell...as always..gone early...now today would probably be a real test of Freddie..

    By Blogger worma, at 07:26  

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