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Wednesday, September 14, 2005

real test cricket continues - Ind-Zim Day2 Open Thread

A dull first day....India being good and ineffective in patches...in bowling and fielding. Khan good in second spell, Kumble not at his best throughout, Pathan only in first spell(without sticking to a consistently good line and length)...Bhajji was good, with a few missed chances (atleast 2 catches and 1 stumping, I remember)...all in all..probably Zim 50 runs more than what India would have ideally liked...not that there's much cause for worry yet...this being their first test match day of the season.

Meanwhile a news bit, a strong Aus A beaten by a stronger Pak A. And looking at the scorecard....some gains for Aus A-Phil Jaques made the highest score of the match in their first innings, White took all 3 Pak wickets to fall in the second innings.

Anyway....open thread for the day...

578 Comments:

  • Hi all,

    Little out of picture comments here, but felt like writing so writing them anyways.

    Was just going through the comments on yesterday's game and I realized this, its not only me who is feeling that this blog is going more on few individualistic ways ( Dont need to take names, its quite clear who those are)rather then a forum to discuss things issues....its sad approch...
    I was invited to this blog by Prem, I was keen follower of his comments but ever since he has added few people as "contributer" to this blog some how feel, its not the same as it used to be..As soon as one try to put one's feeling/opinion about something these so called "contributers" just get on you and tries to get personal and all...

    I dont know if i need to put in some examples over here..but some how feel, people should behave lil maturely...

    Take care..
    Abhay

    By Blogger Medium_Fast_LegSpin, at 03:21  

  • abhay, if you have any feedback for me, please do share it here, or you can mail me if you prefer that. I do have opinions, but I definitely try to listen to others, and give everyone enough space. Or, not be involved in the discussion if it goes beyond me.

    Btw, in the 'comments' section...I am just the same as you all...with no special powers or privilages. Even otherwise, I like to think myself as one of you guys, just with enough time and energy to post my thoughts on the main page.

    By Blogger worma, at 03:28  

  • My thoughts as well. The minute Prem gets in, the discussions move to a different plane altogether. Once he leaves to attend to what he has been 'employed' for, the discussions crash to a game of 'one-up-manship' and personal inuendoes. I had mentioned in my earlier post that all are entitled to their opinions without getting personal on the individuals concerned. Why pull in Dona and actresses into this?? Not sure who did this but just a 'top of the mind' recall.Guys,play it cool and clean

    By Blogger Ravi1010, at 03:31  

  • Worma...I find a lot of balance in what you put up.Keep it going,buddy

    By Blogger Ravi1010, at 03:33  

  • No half hearted descriptions Worma. I dont agree with good in patches etc. The bowling sucked - period!

    I saw a significant part of the game yesterday - the team just did not show any purpose or urgency (apart from completing their quota for the day). The application was missed and I am not sure if you would even call this performance as half decent against the lowly Zims despite the slack given that this is their first day in test cricket after quite a big break.

    By Blogger vshan, at 03:42  

  • That reference to Dona was by Toney, one of the contributors to this blog. Not sure what positives he has contributed so far.

    By Blogger Dadagiri, at 03:44  

  • Hey Worma dude!

    Nothing against you!

    and nothing against anyone..as I feel, people I am referring to would read this and will try to give a lil respect to other attnedeees of this forum!
    Thats it!!

    Take care
    Abhay

    By Blogger Medium_Fast_LegSpin, at 03:53  

  • Guys - whats your take? What will be Zims 1st innings score? Will Taibu score a century?

    What will be India's score at the end of the day?

    By Blogger vshan, at 03:56  

  • This is cricket forum and Ganguly has deservingly and also on occasions undeservingly (where he has been hit below the belt) by all and sundry. Anyway the next 2 weeks will decide is immediate future.

    By Blogger Dennis, at 03:57  

  • I expect zim innings to be wrapped up within 20 more runs...

    India WILL struggle and VVS and Karthik will be the rescuers...

    By Blogger Kansultant, at 03:58  

  • vshan, well...that was my opinion, not hal-hearted descriptions (my full heart in that:)....lowly Zim does not mean they will roll-over each time....and as I agreed...it was a patchy effort....if you want to generalise that as 'bowling sucked'...then so be it. Had it been 220/7 (as I said 50 extra runs) then it was perfectly OK bowling...that was as per right expectation. since its not, hence i call it patchy

    By Blogger worma, at 03:59  

  • vshan,

    The way debengwa is batting, Zim can go all the way to 350 unless our bowlers do something. Someone y'day predicted 285 for Zim and India will be 180 for 6 at the end of te day

    By Blogger Ananth, at 04:00  

  • Worma,
    Should v give some credit to the fact that Zim has been improving over the past month....? They started badly in tests against NZ... improved in 2nd test... came to the trianguar series... and again improved during the tourney... so in my opinion, they hv been working hard to make things better.... and the score yesterday is more a reflection of that.

    By Blogger Yeda_Yakub, at 04:03  

  • btw, someone watching... new ball taken???

    By Blogger worma, at 04:03  

  • Adding to Worma's thoughts...In the NZ-ZIM test series, Zim was rolled over in the first Test.In fact, they had NZ on the mat in the first innings.Thanks to some middle order batting,NZ recovered and Bond did the rest. Test 2..Zim put up scores of 200+ in both the innings.Lost the test,no doubt,but got their batting going.So,they are not 'push-overs' in the real sense,how much ever we may want India to blast their way to victory

    By Blogger Ravi1010, at 04:05  

  • 220/7 at the end of the day? I expected (or rather wished) India would bat by the end of the day. We have struggled to pick 7 Zim wickets in one full day and we call ourselves as the 3rd (sometimes even 2nd) best test team!

    I did not expect them to roll over and play dead, but not getting them all out in a day is definitely showing wrong signs. God forbid if Zimbabwe scored 350 and we are at 180/6 as someone just said! That would be the end of Indian cricket!

    By Blogger vshan, at 04:05  

  • yeda, exactly...I KNOW what ZIM has been doing..even against Zim...thats why my expectation with them was that they would not roll over on day 1 on a flat track...thats why I'm not as disappointed with the bowling...only some extra runs...thats all.

    And btw, in same vein...I would expect them to have improved bowling also...Blignaut wasnt there in Nz series....he's good...

    By Blogger worma, at 04:05  

  • yeda_yakub

    Maybe there should be a better argument to bail the Indian team out. :-)

    By Blogger vshan, at 04:06  

  • oops I mean 'even against Nz'...

    By Blogger worma, at 04:06  

  • And btw, in same vein...I would expect them to have improved bowling also...Blignaut wasnt there in Nz series....he's good...

    LOL! Worma! I never expected this from you. So the barriers are already getting erected. The shields ready and polished. :-)

    By Blogger vshan, at 04:07  

  • nice...out..

    By Blogger ilovecricket, at 04:07  

  • Vshan
    I also wish our team to be doing all the great deeds of killing the opposition... be it batting, bowling or whatever... But dost... v hv our strengths as well as weeknesses... and th outcome v get out of the team is a cumulative effect of both... Thats the only reason v get the rank (be it 3, 4 or 7)... so if our performance remains shoddy... trust me no one here will b lucky enough to call our team a 3rd rank team .... but the current ranking sure has been achieved based on the relevant past performance... so don't question them

    By Blogger Yeda_Yakub, at 04:09  

  • and again...Pathan on fire...

    By Blogger ilovecricket, at 04:09  

  • thank God, IP struck early.

    By Blogger Ananth, at 04:10  

  • vshan...yes dude...shields and barriers...I build realistic expectations...I said before the start of this test series...i expect India to win....reasonably comfortably...but no thrashing...no bulldozing...nothing of that sort will happen. And my realistic expectations are built on the past and current performance of Indian and Zimbabwe teams....not on my 'hope' and 'wish'...

    By Blogger worma, at 04:10  

  • Pathan struck again

    By Blogger Ananth, at 04:11  

  • A cap-trick for Pathan ?? :-)

    By Blogger Yeda_Yakub, at 04:13  

  • LOL yeda :)

    By Blogger worma, at 04:14  

  • Let's face it guys.This team is not the same that visited Australia and Pakistan in terms of frame of mind or performance for reasons best known to the players.And given their performance against Aus/Pak in India, it is a bit too much to expect miracles overnight.Even of India wins,which most expect them to, it would be attributed to a lowly opposition.Which means they need to prove themselves all over agin.Fair enough...so let's wait till Eng arrives in India.That would be a sterner test of capabilities for all.
    Or would victories against ENG,if any,be attributed to 'home-advantage' or a possible absences of some of their players??

    By Blogger Ravi1010, at 04:15  

  • Oops!!.Read "Even of India" as even if India and " possible absences" as possible absence

    By Blogger Ravi1010, at 04:17  

  • Guys,
    Would have beenbetter if v had some ex-players joining this blog... just to share a coupls of their comments / anecdotes..... For the starters ...how about Ajay Jadeja, V Prasad, Mongia,

    But oops... I forgot... they can do the same on TV .. and get paid too.. :-)

    By Blogger Yeda_Yakub, at 04:18  

  • ravi...if this team, now at the start of the season, has a decent start...and has not fitness or otherwise obstacles...I think they will reach the same level as the past(Pak, Aus tour). SRT, ofcourse, is one big missing link.

    And even that team(actually same team..but in 'that' performance level), that visited Aus and Pak, would not have 'run through' the Zim lineup......the reality is outside subcontinent we are a modest bowling lineup team...

    By Blogger worma, at 04:18  

  • Time for Pathan to maintain his five-fors againns minnows record..

    By Blogger Yeda_Yakub, at 04:20  

  • Worma
    Read the Pak A news... wonder why they call it a Pak 'A' team... it shud hv been Pak '1/2' team

    By Blogger Yeda_Yakub, at 04:26  

  • LOL yeda :)...that was what I said in my post yesterday/day-before.....just throw in Inzy and it looks like a Pak main team..coming fresh from an internal power struggle (so 1 or 2 players missing) ;-)

    By Blogger worma, at 04:28  

  • So that it..Now lets hope India does well and sets enough lead that it does not need to bat again..(:-))

    By Blogger ilovecricket, at 04:30  

  • Pathan does it again ...:-)

    By Blogger Yeda_Yakub, at 04:31  

  • Pathan has taken 50 Wkts in Test Cricket. Well done IP.

    By Blogger Ananth, at 04:33  

  • That's 50 wickets for IP in 14 Tests

    By Blogger Ravi1010, at 04:33  

  • yeda...yes there's pathan's five-for :)...ilovecricket...yeah I think thats possible...if only they get a decent opening partnership

    By Blogger worma, at 04:35  

  • 5 wkts in an inings - 4 times.Way to go

    By Blogger Ravi1010, at 04:35  

  • ravi, thrice against BD and once against Zim ;)

    By Blogger worma, at 04:37  

  • Worma,
    not to flog a dead horse but honestly you and prem are the only two who actually respect opinions on this blog irrepective of whether you agree with them or not. unfortunately some of the other contributors act like this is their fiefdom and they are prem's chosen apostles.
    abhay thanks for putting this out there.
    as for the game guys dont you thnk that the pitch might not have been as good for bowling as our management had expected it to be?
    which makes it a scary proposition that we have to bat last on it even against the zim attack!

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 04:38  

  • Worma..knew this was coming:)

    By Blogger Ravi1010, at 04:40  

  • well played tatenda taibu. i really hope he does well in this series even if its against my team. it should help give him the required confidence which shoul dbode well for his team in general.

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 04:40  

  • I predicted the scores yesterday morning........So far 99.99 % accurate :D

    ~~~~~What i wrote yesterday ~~~~~

    My prediction ::

    Zimbabwe 285 all out,
    India 180/6 ...karthik and laxman to save India from then on...

    Remember... u heard it first here... :)

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    By Blogger Kansultant, at 04:42  

  • kansultant,
    wiould you be ready to settle for a 50% accuracy rate? now that you have got the first part right, lets hope it is 540 for 6 instead!!!

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 04:43  

  • Worma..Is it fair to compartmentalize performances.After all, they are wickets at the highest level.Go back to the days of Imran Khan.A good %age of his wickets were of tailenders.But,that does not take away the phenomenal performances that he put in against WI or Aus.Similar is the case of Muralitharan.Even in the just concluded BD test,his first innings wickets were of tailenders.On the issue of Murali,I have my own opinion on his bowling.But, that is a topic for another day

    By Blogger Ravi1010, at 04:44  

  • K-slice
    Lets not get too much into this opinion thing ....
    Whether these guys are Prem's chosen ones or not... they wud b a part of this blog in any case... Lets accept them as usual... and not raise issues like "why Prem chose them'... Its a blog meant to discuss cricket ... and without choice .. most of us have strong opinions about anything cricket

    My mantra... Take it easy ... Just make sure tht v don't loose out on the meaty info and insights v get from here

    By Blogger Yeda_Yakub, at 04:45  

  • k-slice...the management did not expect a bowling pitch IMO....thats why two spinners..we never earlier played two spinners outside the subcontinent (I think)

    By Blogger worma, at 04:46  

  • Worma..except in the days of the fabfour

    By Blogger Ravi1010, at 04:47  

  • yeda i agree with you. i feel that even if someone were to come here and say that the best team in the world today is bangladesh, we can agree to disagree but what i sense here is a perverse requirement to make people wrong. its almost like if someone says something certain people disagree with then they have to go out and try and change their minds or mock them. i completely agrewe with the rest of your comment. anyways lets go on to the meatier parts!
    damnit yeda now i need to go eat since you mentioned meat!

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 04:48  

  • ravi...just mentioned that weak opposition thing to keep the right perspective...sure they are still wickets at highest level (so many bowlers are there who havent even managed 5 wkts against these opposition..despite having an oppurtunity...). And ofcourse all bowlers in their career do this....all batsmen also get cheap runs like this...

    good point about murali....he was quite 'ineffectice' against BD top order in first innings...notice the score i posted....150+/2 in 20+ overs !!!.....then later he ran through tail...and next innings he was all over them....

    By Blogger worma, at 04:50  

  • worma i dit understand what you were trying to say. so you mean they sorta knew that they shouldnt have been bowling first yet chose to do so?

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 04:50  

  • I wonder if Sehwag can maintain his composure for long against this attack. Surprisingly he does much better against stronger attacks like Aus & Pak

    By Blogger Kansultant, at 04:52  

  • Good to see some positive aspects from Pathan. Maybe the night's rest helped him rethink on what he did wrong yesterday. Comes back and rips the tail apart - something he ought to have done yesterday.

    Good decent start from the openers - but then I have stated before - I am not worried about the batting (at least in the first innings :-) )

    By Blogger vshan, at 04:56  

  • Just as i posted my above comment, Sehwag is dropped

    By Blogger Kansultant, at 04:56  

  • k-slice...Zim won the toss and batted first on a batting pitch. India was made to bowl :)

    By Blogger worma, at 04:57  

  • hahahahahah
    shows my ignorance of the current state of affairs!!
    my bad!

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 05:00  

  • Great captaincy by Saurav...to get Pathan going so early!..Congrats!

    By Blogger Blwe_torch, at 05:00  

  • is there anywhere i can listen to commentary for free?

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 05:04  

  • going nice and easy so far; wonder how many 100s are in store...

    does anyone know where india played the previous Test outside the sub-c?
    blew mind away when I realized where/when it was

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 05:04  

  • India need to maintain the run-rate of 4 throughout..

    By Blogger Blwe_torch, at 05:04  

  • Kansultant..."Just as i posted my above comment, Sehwag is dropped "...there goes yr chance of being 100% correct:)

    By Blogger Ravi1010, at 05:05  

  • Australia ..I think....@ yacric

    By Blogger Blwe_torch, at 05:06  

  • yacrik
    i think it was against the aussies but i might be wrong.

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 05:06  

  • Catching and dropping....just like hitting and missing is part of this game...

    By Blogger Blwe_torch, at 05:07  

  • Australia for sure

    By Blogger Blwe_torch, at 05:07  

  • very well done blwe: Sydney - S Waugh's final Test. Kumble almost bowled India to victory.
    only if Kartik offered some support..

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 05:07  

  • Sydney-2003-04...India scored 700+

    By Blogger Ravi1010, at 05:08  

  • That was the high point of Indian cricket in the recent decade...along with the following Pakistan tour....after that...well...we see a temporary slide....!

    By Blogger Blwe_torch, at 05:10  

  • and SRT's 241 - where 90% of the runs were scored in squareleg and fineleg area!

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 05:10  

  • It aint over till the fat lady sings :) I still blv VS and RD will struggle in this tour

    By Blogger Kansultant, at 05:11  

  • I remember fondly..Ganguly's century in bouncy Brisbane...and Dravid's double century in Adelaide where India won!

    By Blogger Blwe_torch, at 05:11  

  • Currently..it is only the Indian Stock market that doesn't show a downward slide :)..Ah of course!! the oil prices too :(

    By Blogger Ravi1010, at 05:11  

  • mind you - McGrath and Warne did not play there... after how Aus fared without them, I'm not sure if (in hindsight) if India's achievement there amounted to much.

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 05:12  

  • Yes...Sachin's great comeback at Sidney.

    By Blogger Blwe_torch, at 05:12  

  • Ravi...that is temporary too!

    By Blogger Blwe_torch, at 05:13  

  • Yacrik..Aus in Aus is dangerous..with or without McG or Warne

    By Blogger Ravi1010, at 05:13  

  • blwe: Ganguly's 144? it was against 3rd choice Aussie attack - no McGrath,no Warne, No Lee!

    all FOURs in the 100 here:

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 05:15  

  • Blwe_torch...The latter ..yes..the former..hopefully ..no

    By Blogger Ravi1010, at 05:15  

  • With a little luck..India would have won in Australia.....Sidney that is....I remember one such test at South Africa ...Johannesburg.....rain and lethargic staff..prevented India from winning.

    By Blogger Blwe_torch, at 05:16  

  • When India went to Aussies they faced macgill, bracken and brad williams of all bowlers....... Still we cud not win the series :(

    By Blogger Kansultant, at 05:16  

  • yacrik,

    same holds good for Dravid's 200+ at adelaide and SRT's 236 at Sydney, right?

    By Blogger Mock Turtle, at 05:17  

  • The former too..@ ravi.....brace yourself....no wish ful thinking!
    Yacric....great record keping...but Ganguly's was an important innings.....it defined the Indian intent. At this level...only this makes a lot of difference.

    By Blogger Blwe_torch, at 05:21  

  • Kansultant..In the 2001 series, India did not have Kumble and still Aussies could not win in India.These are not comparisons that would stand.One plays with whatever team is available.

    By Blogger Ravi1010, at 05:21  

  • anyways guys has anyone read about the potential 3 players from india that might be involved in match fixing? one apparently is a top order swashbuckling batsmen who may or may not be from delhi, the other is a bowler who was in the team but not retained for the test and the third is a bowler who was in the one dayers as well as the tests.
    hmmmm
    wonder who TOI and asianage are referring to.

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 05:22  

  • you are right mock - though MCG and Sydney had Lee, but no Gellispe

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 05:23  

  • kansultant...nobody asked the Aussies to rest their main bowlers. Even in the recent Ashes series..they are without Macgrath...but England sees no reason to complain. THey have declared themselves the best team on this planet!...I wonder....India has already achieved that task in 2001. India is also without SRT for sometimes now!

    By Blogger Blwe_torch, at 05:24  

  • K-slice..VS,AA and HS/IP...ridiculous stuff..pure sensationalism

    By Blogger Ravi1010, at 05:24  

  • ravi...I agree that India missed Kumble (or did it :D )

    BUt i think u wud agree that had McGrath and warne played that series, the result would have been very different...

    By Blogger Kansultant, at 05:26  

  • ravi i was being sarcastic. though all three have not performed well of late i really think it has more to do with the afct that they are or have been out of form rather than taking money to perform poorly.

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 05:27  

  • ravi if they are referring to a bowler who has been sent home i would think it woul dbe murli k or nehra, the latter ,if he fixed anything, should be encouraged to indulge in fixing more often if it results in himbowling well as i think he did for most part of the tourney.

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 05:29  

  • I wonder how an injured Macgrath and injured Warne would have made any difference!...and Warne is plain fodder for Indian batsmen anyway...I remember an innings by Kambli..who had effectively put Warne in his place!....Warne is an all time greta.....the catch is...just don't remind him about India!

    By Blogger Blwe_torch, at 05:29  

  • Is it time for Sehwag to get runs against minnows? do a Ganguly for change!

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 05:32  

  • yacrik please dont jinx him!!

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 05:33  

  • Sehwag is the future captain anyway!

    By Blogger Blwe_torch, at 05:34  

  • sehwag should wear white instead of the blue during the ODI's. I think he doesnt like the ODI's blue uniform. what do you say guys?

    ..

    By Blogger Yule, at 05:35  

  • guys if any of you are watching can you post the scores and details that our retarded child cricinfo fails to do?

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 05:36  

  • Warne did well against India last year: 14 wickets in 3 Test @ 27; remember he did not
    play in Mumbai - he might have taken 15 wickets at 8 runs ! see how Clarke bowled there.

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 05:36  

  • Karachi....is a glorious exception!..Sehwag at his very best!

    By Blogger Blwe_torch, at 05:36  

  • Warne is a good bowler against India...and a great bowler against the rest of the world.

    By Blogger Blwe_torch, at 05:37  

  • score: 66/0 in 12 overs.

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 05:38  

  • India: 66/0 (12.0 Ovs)
    G Gambhir 28(39)
    V Sehwag* 35(33)

    Zimbabwe: 279
    H Streak* 6-0-33-0
    A Blignaut 2-0-10-0

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 05:38  

  • 6!

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 05:38  

  • 66 no loss in abt 12 overs....good going!

    By Blogger Blwe_torch, at 05:39  

  • Sehwag hits a 6!

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 05:39  

  • thanks yacrik

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 05:39  

  • Even i prefer VS for captaincy, but does any one here believe that BCCI wud have the foresight to look ahead of RD ?? I doubt very much...

    By Blogger Kansultant, at 05:40  

  • Sehwag leaves a ball outside off ! as rare as six!

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 05:40  

  • make that 2 in a row!

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 05:40  

  • Frankly...I don't think RD will make a good captain for India....he would have done well in a team like Australia.......and as far as his agressive field setting is concerned...well....that is the common nature of any stop gap captain. Even Sachin was very agressive when he captained in the absence of Azhar.

    By Blogger Blwe_torch, at 05:44  

  • Is Gambhir the best Indian cover driver at the moment? i think so - that was one great shot!

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 05:45  

  • Na, kaif is the best cover driver.....Hey how come we forgot SG :D. He was supposed to be god there, remember :)

    By Blogger Kansultant, at 05:47  

  • SG has not been getting much of a drive, apart from the one from hotel to the ground.

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 05:50  

  • I agree with you there...Kan...SG was really vintage!...

    By Blogger Blwe_torch, at 05:50  

  • Blwe-torch..Part of what I had posted yesterday
    "I would think that RD and SG are from the same school of thought.In the initial days of captaincy,u would tend to do things differently.That is where we see that tinge of agressiveness in RD"

    By Blogger Ravi1010, at 05:50  

  • "drive from hotel to the ground" is courtesy Wasim Akram the great.

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 05:51  

  • Exactly...I remember your post...@ Ravi....I remember even Ganguly did a few bold stuff in Toronto as a stop-gap captain...and in Australia prior to that...in the absence of Sachin.

    By Blogger Blwe_torch, at 05:52  

  • the interesting thing now is whether Sehwag will get to 50 before lunch

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 05:53  

  • good pull shot from GG ! -

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 05:54  

  • GG is a great stroke maker - got wondeful cover drive and amazing pull shot; incredible the small guy like him can generate so much power. he is a great sign for Indian cricket.
    can't wait for him to get to the ODI side - should be a great fit for India.

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 05:56  

  • Interestin story this...Roger Federer says there are lessons for him in the Ashes defeat of his favourite team, Australia....
    "They did lose? You're kidding. Oh shit," Federer said yesterday, the day after his US Open final win against Andre Agassi

    By Blogger Kansultant, at 05:56  

  • 15.4 Blignaut to Gambhir, FOUR!!, this was pitched short, pulls it to deep square leg, picked it up quite nicely, fabulous hit!

    15.4 Blignaut to Gambhir, FOUR, short and drifting on to middle and leg,
    Gambhir rocks back and pulls it away to the fine leg fence,
    swinging away on one leg - made it look easy!

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 05:57  

  • GG looks good but unfortunately not of the same class as our topline batsmen....Even Yuvraj and Kaif rates higher than him....We need to find a character...just like Sehwag.

    By Blogger Blwe_torch, at 05:59  

  • last ball before lunch - and VS bowled!

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 06:00  

  • Thats bad news!

    By Blogger Blwe_torch, at 06:01  

  • he played all over it - completely missed the line - lazy shot at stroke of lunch from VS;
    his struggle against minnows continues...

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 06:01  

  • The first bicycle comes down.......Now wait for the rest to follow suit :D

    By Blogger Kansultant, at 06:02  

  • typical ODI dismissal - playing across the line.

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 06:02  

  • I have come up with an idea ...

    Select 10 regulars and leave out SG and VS...

    Now if we play against a top team like Aus, Pak or Eng, let VS be the 11th player..

    Let SG play when we play Zim or BD....

    In the end, Team India will be benifitted :D

    Wot say Junta here ??

    By Blogger Kansultant, at 06:06  

  • I have an idea......when SG is in bad form...let him be the super-sub!...A super-sub....who is also the captain......who inspires the team on field and even from the pavilion( when India bats).....how abt it?

    By Blogger Blwe_torch, at 06:09  

  • BTW..I am a great fan of SG...besides others!

    By Blogger Blwe_torch, at 06:09  

  • Kansultant....U shld have been a 'con'sultant :D

    By Blogger Ravi1010, at 06:10  

  • ravi.. I am a consultant :) . I currently work at Deloitte Consulting, Hyderabad

    By Blogger Kansultant, at 06:13  

  • kan - good thinking on VS and SG!

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 06:13  

  • Kan...read that as 'Con' :D

    By Blogger Ravi1010, at 06:19  

  • In his two Innings in Zim against Zim (one today & one in the triseries),VS stats read as

    V Sehwag b Mahwire 12 &
    V Sehwag b Mahwire 44

    Guess, Sehwag will be having a few sleeping nights till the next time he faces the hostile bowling of "Mahwire" :)

    By Blogger Kansultant, at 06:32  

  • Abhay - "I was invited to this blog by Prem, I was keen follower of his comments but ever since he has added few people as "contributer" to this blog some how feel, its not the same as it used to be..As soon as one try to put one's feeling/opinion about something these so called "contributers" just get on you and tries to get personal and all..."

    Actually its not a bad idea to invite contributors to make the blog more interesting. However, only worma has justified by creating interesting threads. I don't knwo what the rest of the "contributors" like Ravi, Toney, Ruchir & SUjata" doing here. They are just for show.

    Worma - good work mate! keep on writing.

    By Blogger jgohil, at 06:36  

  • Here is the apparent reality of the ICC investigation of the tri-series. Looks like they had this 'regular' visit, and TOI found out from 'internal sources' that it was related to tri-series! And others just picked it from there ?

    Sure, even this can be a cover-up statement. Maybe Sujata/Prem can comment on it.

    By Blogger worma, at 06:37  

  • And here is the Indian captain explaining day one, from his point of view. Not surprisingly, it covers most of the questions we were debating here yesterday! About 4 bowlers, 2 spinners, performance of these, Yuv vs Kaif, Bhajji's wicketless day etc

    By Blogger worma, at 06:43  

  • "The wall" is batting, I wonder if SG will come at the fall of next wicket ??

    By Blogger Kansultant, at 06:43  

  • kansultant...the supposed batting order has Lax next...and SG has said earlier that he wud bat at regular position(means no 5)

    By Blogger worma, at 06:45  

  • However hard we try to taunt LP Sahi of the Telegraph, Calcutta...and his 'inside-sources'...we can't deny that he is continuously giving us genuine feed about whats happenning in Indian cricket. No doubt the man is an intelligent and enterprising reporter!....Others in his ilk...I find are rather more sentimental than objective.

    By Blogger Blwe_torch, at 06:46  

  • blwe_torch : I was taunting inside sources of TOI there ;-)...abt Sahi, I think he has good connections...so the 'information' part of his reports is good...the 'analysis' part not so

    By Blogger worma, at 06:49  

  • Prem, no comment on YS in place of MK?

    By Blogger samc, at 06:53  

  • Gambhir goes !!

    By Blogger Ravi1010, at 06:54  

  • As I said, the Bicycles have started to fall :)

    GG is gone

    By Blogger Kansultant, at 06:55  

  • good cover drive from RD ! one of the best you could ever see.

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 06:56  

  • Now that the bicycles are out of the way,get the Ferraris in ;)

    By Blogger Ravi1010, at 06:57  

  • another four: great on-drive+flick (flicky drive?) - made it look very easy

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 06:57  

  • well said.. ravi;

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 06:57  

  • 19.4 Blignaut to Dravid, FOUR, glorious! good length delivery outside
    the off stump, Dravid gets a good stride forward, gets to the
    pitch of the ball and drives it away to the cover fence, excellent
    timing and placement
    19.4 Blignaut to Dravid, FOUR!!, gets forward and eases it through to sweeper cover, another exquisitely timed shot

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 06:58  

  • With VVS and RD in..and if both get into their stride...sheer magic.Sad..not able to watch this

    By Blogger Ravi1010, at 06:59  

  • Dravid simply the best - new age Good so to speak.
    VVS gets one away for for on the on side - a lot of wrist involbed there.

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 07:00  

  • yep, it;s been great - VVS - edged, but not gone - lucky escape- just out of reach for 3rd slipper

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 07:01  

  • or was it the second slip? may be - my count may have included the keeper!

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 07:02  

  • spinner come is !

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 07:03  

  • VVS has always problems with ordinary spinners - interesting to see how he does.

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 07:04  

  • If Rd plays well now, all teh talk abt depressed mind will hopefully go away.
    By the way guys , how do u rate - GG .
    IS GG a good opener who can be in the team long term and can play top opposition in away conditions .........

    By Blogger rajesh, at 07:04  

  • you would think SG would have come in at #4 - VVS comes ahead.
    lost opportunity to bash SG had he come ahead :)

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 07:05  

  • GG is a great stroke maker - got wondeful cover drive and amazing pull shot; incredible the small guy like him can generate so much power. he is a great sign for Indian cricket.
    can't wait for him to get to the ODI side - should be a great fit for India.

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 07:06  

  • another gem from RD - he is in Godly touch today!

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 07:07  

  • is Godly a legal word? if not, I meant great touch

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 07:08  

  • however, VVS is lucky to be there... edge just went past the slipper in the last over.

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 07:08  

  • rajesh..let him play outside the subcon..against decent attacks. IMO his game is a bit 'loose'...but then..so we thought for sehwag once (not comparing him)...

    By Blogger worma, at 07:10  

  • If mymemory server me correct,vvs is also in very poor form for a long time even in tests ...
    He should get a gud 100 now against this attack.
    guys - this time sg is going to score some runs .... sg is looking comfortable without scoring runs and he is due for runs ....

    By Blogger rajesh, at 07:13  

  • that's correc - VVS has not done much in the last 10 Tests or so.

    343 runs @ 26.38 with just 3 fifties and no 100.

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 07:15  

  • ya worma - i feel GG is not compact in defense(had some problems in outside off when i last saw him in tests against SA),but has wide variety of gud strokes.If he could just tighten his technique then(If GG clicks) then we will have a teriffic opening combination in tests also.

    By Blogger rajesh, at 07:16  

  • he went thru the ODI drop/pick/drop tamasha - and must have affected him a little.
    he seems to be a softy - a little things affect him and his form.
    not made out to be a captain at all .

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 07:17  

  • yacrik,
    u felt that GG is very gud ... Is he gud in defense also ...
    wht do u feel???

    By Blogger rajesh, at 07:17  

  • yac,
    actually australian media wanted vvs to be teh captain of india a year back itself .... (reebock (my poor english is teh spelling correct)etc)

    By Blogger rajesh, at 07:19  

  • GG defenisve techinques seem excellent - the problem is his love for out side off
    balls; goes after anything outside off most of the time. it's not a fault with technique but
    shot selection.

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 07:20  

  • VVS captain does not inspire confidence - his body language is not great - looks tense;
    don't know about his team mates - does not inspire the crowd.

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 07:21  

  • low battery- shutting down.

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 07:22  

  • worma,
    i know prem is very soft towards vvs because he likes vvs batting too much.Did VVS ever had the captaincy thing with him .... wht is ur thoughts

    By Blogger rajesh, at 07:22  

  • GG's batting looks good...but I feel he lacks the character. A champion tem must have a few characters.......and by the way...Rajesh...don't bother abt what the Australian media wants for us!

    By Blogger Blwe_torch, at 07:26  

  • as far as I remember...there was a time when his candidature was seriously considered...and it was said that he was tactically good...also lead Hyd well (dunno abt results, but I guess those were also good). He also lead a few games like board XI or Challenger Trophy games..and was praised in those. Going by his interviews..and whatever little I saw him (in those practise, local games) he can be good...but u need to test these things in pressure situations...like Dravid is being tested (and I have reservations about dravid's style...but needs to be seen more).

    Anyways, I dont think he has a chance now...if things work out the normal course....after SG it will be RD or VS/Kaif/Yuv/youngster...depending on when SG goes...so VVS's windown is shut now

    By Blogger worma, at 07:27  

  • They did try VVS as captain in the Challenger series..but ..well..he is not inspiring as a captain and probably the powers that be thing that he carries tha Azhar baggage around..VVS has gone on record that he admires Azhar..obviously for his batting talent.But, these are not taken in the right perspective

    By Blogger Ravi1010, at 07:27  

  • ravi, i dont think VVS captaincy prospects (in the past, nothing now) had anything to do with Azhar....I'm sure RD or SG would also have admired Azhar's batting at some point of time...if they know good batting!
    About inspiring...well he may not be, but then a challenger game is not enough to know that....we should know that from his Hyd team...Prem may have more on this. Like we know from Mumbai team what sachin was capable of as a captain(despite whatever weaknesses we have discussed here in the past)...

    By Blogger worma, at 07:33  

  • now vvs does not stand a chance ,but if he really made his batting talk great in the last 1 year, he would have been in contention...
    but now it is all over for him as far as captaincy ... that even his position in test team cannot be said to be as secure as RD or SRT.
    Even his batting nowadays does not seem to possess the sweetness it used to be ..
    remember the 6 to 8 centuries he posted in quick succession in domestic and came back into the indian team... for the Aus 2001.The hunger somehow is not there ..
    Do we really have any player now who is that gud in domestic ???? - anybody has a clue

    By Blogger rajesh, at 07:33  

  • another reason - VVS is not in the captaincy frame because he is not in ODI setup anymore.
    India does not have split captains - we can argue that could change. but I don't
    see that happening.
    VVS is not a lot yonger than RD - not more than a year. RD has more cricket left in him
    than VVS.

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 07:33  

  • well, VVS is younger by almost 2 years:

    VVS Laxman
    Born: 1974-11-01 (present age: 30y 317d)

    Born January 11, 1973, Indore, Madhya Pradesh
    Current age 32 years 246 days

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 07:35  

  • VVS is yet to live upto his full potential..I hope he does so soon enough. India needs a few like our 'top five' who can fire our imagination and passion for the game!

    By Blogger Blwe_torch, at 07:36  

  • Yacrik said...
    low battery- shutting down

    So...u are charged up now :D

    By Blogger Ravi1010, at 07:36  

  • the point being, it seems VVS has more Test cricket left in him if he recovers and
    retains form. Surely, he is a different class than Yuvraj,Kaif,Rao.
    don't know about others in the running in a year or so: Neeraj Patel and Raina.
    Did anyone look at the Irani tropy team... along the expected lines. GG is the captain.

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 07:39  

  • still charging.. but on A/C now.

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 07:39  

  • seems rahul is playing well ...

    By Blogger rajesh, at 07:41  

  • news:
    The International Cricket Council (ICC) has given Sachin Tendulkar till September 21 to prove his fitness for next month's Super Series ties between Australia and the Rest of the World XI, according to Dave Richardson, ICC's Manager of Cricket Operations.

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 07:41  

  • VVS captained India A once against Aus A in that tournament in Hollywood, USA 3-5 years back.. Did a fairly good job, I thought...anyone remembers that series ???

    By Blogger Kansultant, at 07:42  

  • Gambhir to lead Rest of India squad:

    Rest of India squad: Gautam Gambhir (capt), Dheeraj Jadhav, Shikhar Dhawan, Robin Uthappa, Y Venugopal Rao (vice-capt), Suresh Raina, Niraj Patel, Parthiv Patel(wkt), Ramesh Powar, Ramakrishnan Ramkumar, RP Singh, Sreeshanth, Ranadeb Bose, Amit Bhandari, VRV Singh


    what's Bhandari doing here? thought he was tried already...hope is not in the playing X1.
    but with GG being the captain, can't see Bhandari (delhi kinship) being left out.

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 07:42  

  • R Dravid* 35(44)
    VVS Laxman 13(37)

    What's up? 13 in 37 balls... VVS thinks this is a Test match??? ha? :)

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 07:44  

  • hope folks are not too bored with my monologue here! though it must be irritating the heck out
    of one or two !

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 07:45  

  • After Ganguly....captaincy can go to either Sehwag or Yuvraj or Kaif. That is ...in the long term. They are all good enough for the job. I am not to ken on RD. However, in case of an emergency, that is, in a very short notice...RD may be the only candidate, that is upto World Cup' 2007.

    By Blogger Blwe_torch, at 07:45  

  • another cover drive from RD! is he simply the best one to drive (right handed that is)

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 07:46  

  • bhandari is a gud seam bowler right who was given a raw deal ...
    munaf patel ... what is he doing guys ... is he gone??? now the way amol muzumdar and rayudu have ...

    By Blogger rajesh, at 07:48  

  • Right handed all right!...why is Ambati Rayudu missing from the list?..Poor form?

    By Blogger Blwe_torch, at 07:48  

  • well that's what happens when you carry a sword behind the neck....Poor VVS always seems to carry that sword :(

    By Blogger Kansultant, at 07:48  

  • umpire running off the field for a bathroom break! never seen that before....

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 07:48  

  • One of the rare occurances in test cricket, Umpire Daryll Harper
    (perhaps feeling ill at the moment) leaves the field and is
    replaced by Russell Tiffin, who is the TV Umpire for this game

    By Blogger Kansultant, at 07:49  

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