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Friday, September 09, 2005

Ashes T5, Day2 : Open Thread

Big day of the game, first one hour would probably decide the fate of the series. Aus have done the hard work (for it was nothing else, their performance yesterday, but hard work and Shane Warne). Now if they get Eng under 400, and then go on to show even as much application in their batting approach as Trent Bridge second innings, they have a chance.

But that's still quite a lot to expect, of this Aussie bunch, at this moment. Lets see how the day goes....open thread...


  • Unfit pathan

    Out of context ....

    Look at the score card between zim board XI and India. Obviously pathan bowling just 5 overs when the opposition is having a partnership of over 70-80 runs shows that he is not fit ,that too 4 days before a test. ZK and LB bowled 20 and 21 overs. If they are unfit why do they not just say it and come back home, why make us loose finals. Dilip Vengsarkar said clearly that he felt some of the players, especially bowlers were not fit and hence this performance. I can’t believe we played an unfit IP and AN instead of any fit bowlers especially when ZK and LB were fit and at home. Also why did we let AA leave and then are trying to get him back that was crazy it is not that in a few hours time ( from the time AA boarded the flight from zim to jo burg) AN developed a major injury? It was known before and still the team let AA go or more likely AN kept quite until AA left?

    By Blogger Avinash, at 03:51  

  • avinash, can it be that pathan was taken into the side just for 'warm up'..kind of 'extended net session'...and its actually ZK and LB who are coming off fresh..so they were given longer run? More-over, as we all think, Pathan is almost a surety for the first game. What does he, or the team management, achieve by giving him a long run ? So, he was included just to do some overs...like a practise. I think IP is fit, and has been since the start of this season. Whether he performed well in patches or not, thats another story.

    By Blogger worma, at 03:58  

  • There is a lot of cricket to be played in this match and it is not very wise to say that the 1st 1 hour will dsecide the fate of series.

    By Blogger Dennis, at 04:32  

  • I feel if we want to rest someone then we should not play him in the 11 or 12. else atleast bowl a couple of spells , specially when the opposition is on top. I got this doubt from vengsarkar’s comment, more than anything else. I wish he is fit because as I mentioned previously, I believe iP is lethal in swinging conditions ,more so against weaker oppositions. A fit IP surely must open the bowling but…. I only hope he is fit. I made a similar comment about AN at the end of the 2nd match so 10 days ago and now we see he was unfit

    By Blogger Avinash, at 04:40  

  • yep dennis, what I meant was that if they do well in that first hour, they have a 'chance'. Otherwise it looks bleak for them again, esp if they let Eng get away with a 400+ score.

    Anyway, agreed...long way to go

    By Blogger worma, at 04:40  

  • worma,
    surely you are joking when you say the first hour will be a deciding period for this match. even if the ozzies do get england all out within the first hour, as dennis suggests there still is a lot of cricket to be played in the match. also add the facor of rain into the mix and it seems like the first hour might be pretty inconsequential in the grand scheme of events.

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 04:41  

  • ok worma you pout that up as i was typing my own post. ignore my words

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 04:43  

  • avinash, Vengsarkar wasn't there in SL or Zim. He watched what we did. IP had good tours...most of the time. And did you read match report on yesterday's game. We played 12 players (and Zim 13!!). Maybe he was taken in as the last one...just to give a spell in the middle...rather than sit on the bench completely. Anyway, my point is, atleast I fail to read the signals of his 'fitness' with this. I'm also hoping like you :-) I think he would do well...and if he sustains his fitness, would go on to get better in the season...fast bowlers tend to get better in the season that way, whereas injury breaks make them start from scratch again. I also expect ZK to get better, as he has already shown signs in the afro-asian tamasha.

    By Blogger worma, at 04:44  

  • k-slice: LOL..looks like my original post gave the impression that if Aus do that first hour right, they have bagged it. Its actually the other way round, if they mess it up, its diff for them to recover. If they do it right, and THEN get their batting in line...then only can they think of winning

    By Blogger worma, at 04:47  

  • worma
    i hope i am wrong but ZK,s performance was in a tamasha. what i mean is that no one really gave a damn about what was happening and hence his wickets and thus performance seem to be overrated.

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 04:47  

  • I think the English team has gone on the defensive (thinking they will bat and score more runs than worrying about the wickets they will have to take) based on their decision to pick Collingwood rather than Anderson.

    I tho't Anderson could swing the ball and that would have posed enough problems to the Aussies. But, Collingwood? WHY? English are content with a draw...thats why...

    By Blogger madhugr, at 04:48  

  • yeah I know...that performance has to be taken with a pinch of salt :-)...but still atleast he wasn't ineffective...or carted around. Lets see...its only my personal feeling...that he is getting better from his disastrous SL series, and if he doesnt break down, he would again be our strike bowler before the end of the season!! (and I base my gut feeling on the fact that a fit ZK is more effective on subcontinent pitches than IP...mainly because of their diffrent styles)

    By Blogger worma, at 04:50  

  • K-slice
    Congrats man.... ur friend Jadhav is in Indian team...

    U wanna share any feelings of his?

    By Blogger Yeda_Yakub, at 04:54  

  • On the case of IP, I am sure he is going to be the Man of Series in the test match - he is going to bamboozle the Zimbabwe team in both the matches with his swing...

    By Blogger madhugr, at 04:55  

  • yep madhugr, we're all expecting that ;-)

    By Blogger worma, at 04:55  

  • Avinash
    Is Vengsarkar writing a column on matches these days?

    By Blogger Yeda_Yakub, at 04:58  

  • and the pace that Zk has which IP lacks to a large extent. im keepuing my fingers crossed but i have a bad feelign that like nehra even ZK will have some ass niggle sooner or later.

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 05:01  

  • yeda,
    he really needs to grab this oppurtunity with both hands and legs if possible. but even then , when i talked to him last he said that gettign runs against Zim wasnt a big deal for him. he seems to be run bhooka against better oppositions(the joke being his first season for m;rshtra he was called run sookha by niranjan godbole, another batsmen).
    i hope he does well here so he can atleast get a chance to perform against better sides.

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 05:06  

  • K-slice
    Thanks for sharing... My first hope for the lad is ... to get a chance to play ...I don't really see him playing in the 11 as of now

    By Blogger Yeda_Yakub, at 05:10  

  • The tailenders will survive the new ball? is the match going to start on time?
    answers seem failry simple!

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 05:13  

  • Looks as if YS is in the Test frame, and not Kaif - pity that is.

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 05:14  

  • weather: very sunny now !
    but increasing risk of thundery showers developing.

    Mostly cloudy with scattered showers, perhaps thundery still.

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 05:18  

  • yacrik that is really sad. i honestly think that kaif woul dmake a great middle order batsmen. specially with SG's days numbered in the team(worma ignore the last line!!) we should look at getting both YS and Mk in the team.

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 05:21  

  • Reverse swing coming into play.... does CWood get reverse swing? i'm sure he will try.

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 05:23  

  • has it begun yet?

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 05:24  

  • agree with you - MK has a good Test batsman writeen all over him - one worrying sign is that he may not go on to make big hundreds..because his runs involve a lot of hard work - he is tired by the time he makes 80-90

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 05:25  

  • start in 5 mins

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 05:25  

  • k-slice..duely ignored ;-)...but why Yuv? I thought Kaif was in with a better chance, has been in more consistent form also (and last time around, wasn't he the one to be kept out of the team despite in good nick against Aus). And yep, Jadhav not likely to get a chance.

    By Blogger worma, at 05:28  

  • SG's last hundred in a Test that India won - 22 Tests ago (more than 3 years!)

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 05:29  

  • New ball taken ! ENg will fold in another 10-15 runs?? very likely..but you never can say anything for sure.

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 05:31  

  • I mean predict anything for sure.

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 05:31  

  • Giles facing the new ball! can he survive !

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 05:33  

  • a lot of swing on offer??? should make Eng bowlers happy...

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 05:34  

  • Yo PP!
    What do you think of Warne's 5 wkt haul on the first day?. Don't you wish that our 'Turbanator', 'Walks the talk' or atleast have the humility to consult the former greats on how to get better?

    By Blogger g1, at 05:35  

  • Clarke throws left handed!

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 05:37  

  • Lee comes up with a beauty.

    By Blogger ClannZú, at 05:38  

  • BOLD!

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 05:38  

  • Time for Hoggy & Giles to put up a 100 run stand and frustrate the hell out of the Aussies. :)

    By Blogger ClannZú, at 05:40  

  • The new ball is just 1.4 overs old!

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 05:41  

  • what was that noise?

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 05:42  

  • he nicked it,,, didn't he..

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 05:42  

  • I didn't think so.

    By Blogger ClannZú, at 05:43  

  • Hayden to get a hundred? he is due for a big one... good call from the upms

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 05:44  

  • the arm guard is god sent... mano-oh-man

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 05:45  

  • umps didn't think he nicked it either..so that's good.

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 05:46  

  • worma
    i think they will blood jadhav against zim. that might be wishful thinking but i really think they should. as for YS he really ahsnt done too badly to warrant being booted. i think with Sg gone there will be another open spot where we can adjust kaif.as for jadhav he is a good opener and since akash isnt in the team he might get a look in.

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 05:47  

  • what a mismatch.... shouldn't they outlaw new balls against the tail enders...

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 05:48  

  • yacrik i wouldnt call it a mismatch rather a chance for revenge. i remember srinath bouncing some sidey srilankan bowler for the simple reason that he had done that to dravid inthe first innings!! well besides i want to see aus bat sooner rather than later. that way atleast i will know whether the ashes are actually gonna return or not!

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 05:51  

  • Simon hugues doing some`Prem there..asking batsman to comeforward and play on backfoot and whatnot

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 05:52  

  • rod marsh agrees with worma. says that the first hour will be deciding where the ashes go. i wonder if worma actually is rod marsh at times.!!!

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 05:52  

  • revenge is a bad thing...it should not motivate our actions. if SL bowlers bounced Dravid, he should learn how to play bouncers well.

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 05:54  

  • first hour decides the ashes? i thought it was a 5 day Test...:)

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 05:55  

  • yacrik i think revenge or for that matter any other emotion if channeled in an appropriate manner is great. specialy for our team given that we need any and all motivation possible at certain times.

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 05:56  

  • does Giles bat better than Veni Rao? he certainly looks neat and compact out there.

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 05:56  

  • Hoggard's defense under severe threat..

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 05:57  

  • what say guys i feel eng can surely get to 375 if they go on setting themselves small targets of say 10 runs at a time.

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 05:58  

  • Benaud thinks there is some swing there..may not be a batting beauty afterall..

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 05:58  

  • Aus have similar small targets! just one wicket at a time...!!

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 05:59  

  • yacrik, apparently only the both of us seem to be on right now. i guess the others arent interested today!

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 06:00  

  • 4 to giles

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 06:00  

  • First target should be 350 but they need to hang. The longet they play, the more chance they have of saving the game.

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 06:01  

  • I'm here guys.

    By Blogger ClannZú, at 06:01  

  • mcg misses the stumps. no one seems to know how that missed.

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 06:02  

  • k-slice...am not worried about Jadhav...since he is in the GC 'radar'....he will surely get chances...lots of cricket to come at home...

    By Blogger worma, at 06:02  

  • saurabh...collingwood selection..what say? wrong in 'hindsight' ?

    By Blogger worma, at 06:03  

  • saurabh...the game is not out of England's reach. 336 may not be a great score but its a pretty decent total and Australia haven't batted well throughtout the series. Its for them to put up over 450..lets see if they can do it. So talks of saving the game are bit premature, don't you think.

    By Blogger ClannZú, at 06:03  

  • worma i want him to prove himself against a shitty zim attack. that way atleast the fab 5 wont axe him again without giving him a chance

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 06:04  

  • Eng is a bowler short - that should compensate for Aus batting trouble so far in the series.

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 06:06  

  • Worma with pathan let us see time will tell, I am also not any tart reader but I say it as I see it. I feel its funny that we let Dion ebrahim score a 163 not out against our full strength bowling and not bowl our best swing bowler for more than 5 overs. Will be clear by End of day today though I expect him to Made sense to at least the 2nd new ball today morning and polish zim off. If IP bowls a atkleast 7 over spell ( which he would definetly do in the nets every day!!!) today then I will be relieved and happy that he is fit. Else my doubts would persist.

    By Blogger Avinash, at 06:07  

  • Worma with pathan let us see time will tell, I am also not any tart reader but I say it as I see it. I feel its funny that we let Dion ebrahim score a 163 not out against our full strength bowling and not bowl our best swing bowler for more than 5 overs. Will be clear by End of day today though I expect him to Made sense to at least the 2nd new ball today morning and polish zim off. If IP bowls a atkleast 7 over spell ( which he would definetly do in the nets every day!!!) today then I will be relieved and happy that he is fit. Else my doubts would persist.

    By Blogger Avinash, at 06:07  

  • k-slice...I agree, its a nice comfy way to start the career..but with so many issues around each of the main cast..they also want the cushion...and abt fab 5 dropping him, thats what I meant to say, not likely to happen if he's really impressive behind the scenes for the team management. But who knows...he may get a look-in after all? What if we win the first one comfortably...they may rest Sehwag..

    By Blogger worma, at 06:07  

  • Also, it's the spinner who did all the damage. Aus are very good players of spin - Clarke, Martyn,Katich - they are the best players of spin

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 06:08  

  • avinash, yeah man lets watch today. Hope your doubts are wrong :)

    By Blogger worma, at 06:08  

  • yacrik i doubt that. specially since it is going to be overcast and there defienitely seems to be some swing around. lets see how they face hoggy

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 06:08  

  • So Giles however good he is may not trouble them too much

    By Blogger Yacrik, at 06:09  

  • Worma, Hindsight is always 20/20 :-)

    I had actually said in my earlier posts that my preference would have been Collingwood instead of Bell. But having decided to keep Bell, he is a better choice then Andersen. Dont see Andersen doing much on a wicket where McGrath and Lee have had little impact.

    Collingwood might still come good in the second innings (He actually got a bad decision). Bell however seems to there to be 'picked' by Lee...

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 06:09  

  • worma
    id rather see sehwag and him open together. DJ's batting, although not in the same agressive category as VS is quite agressive. it should be fun to see them flay the zim attack.

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 06:10  

  • saurabh..am not watching...but someone said there were signs of swing etc? if so then anderson could have worked. He's a diff type of bowler than Mcg, Lee.

    Yes, Collingwood can still come good...with bat, and even ball. He can get wickets because of being the 'easy' bowler in the attack

    By Blogger worma, at 06:11  

  • Calnnzu, I agree. Any score over 350+ is not a bad score.

    However, if England eat up time, then Australia will be under more pressure to 'set-up' the game.

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 06:11  

  • Bad misfield by Tait...

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 06:12  

  • Ooh...well done Giles to dig out that yorker.
    Haha...Shaun Tait lets one go through his legs.

    By Blogger ClannZú, at 06:12  

  • Yes, Worma some swing there for the Bowlers...

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 06:13  

  • k-slice...I meant 'resting' gambhir looks tough since he is still nt established in the side..thats y i said sehwag..anyways...if he's as good as u say...sure i wud also want him there. I personally dont find GG as long term prospect so far..

    By Blogger worma, at 06:13  

  • This little passage of play will frustrate the Aussies. Ponting not looking too happy...

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 06:14  

  • These two actually have a decent record of putting partnerships together!

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 06:14  

  • Warne warming up...

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 06:16  

  • ok warne warming up

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 06:16  

  • dropped

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 06:17  

  • Woohoo...Ponting drops Hoggard !11

    By Blogger ClannZú, at 06:17  

  • pontin should have caught that. mcg dissapointed

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 06:18  

  • dropped followed by a wild wide by McGrath. As I said, the body language is not good...

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 06:18  

  • wide!! mcg disagrees!

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 06:18  

  • that was out

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 06:18  

  • waiting for the replay

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 06:19  

  • not out says the umpire. mcg keeps appealing. lets see if he gets reprimanded. probably not.

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 06:19  

  • Ooh Giles gets away with a nick...Koertzen says he didn't hear anything.

    By Blogger ClannZú, at 06:19  

  • looked out according to the comm on bbc. second bad decision by kuertzen

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 06:20  

  • looked out to me on the first instance. Some noise but the ball did not seem to deviate!

    Umpire said "I did not here it".

    Funny, I heard it 10 miles away...

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 06:20  

  • snicometer confirms.

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 06:21  

  • Every ball played by these 2 helps frustrate the aussies, consume important time and also tire the aussie oldies by keeping them on the field longer, not to mention the value of the runs they add, even if in trickles. England must bat as long as they can and must add another 50-60 runs somehow, else I can see the aussies really pressuring the Englishman. I think it will be tough for England if they do not get a few quick wickets with the new ball. Any lead of over 125 with a couple of days to go would be perfect receipe for SW

    By Blogger Avinash, at 06:22  

  • Things not going the Austrlian's way.

    Could this be England's day?

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 06:22  

  • Ponting takes 2 balls to realise he should have a silly point & short leg for Warne.

    By Blogger ClannZú, at 06:23  

  • Agreed Avinash, but 50-60 looks unlikely.

    If they can hang for another 30 minutes, that would give the Aussies a tricky 30 minutes before lunch!

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 06:25  

  • out

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 06:25  

  • gone

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 06:26  

  • Slower ball by McGrath. well bowleded

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 06:26  

  • hoggard caught martin bowled mcg

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 06:26  

  • Damn saurabh, you're quick ! ;)
    Slower ball gets Hoggard.

    By Blogger ClannZú, at 06:26  

  • another 20 runs would be great but...

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 06:28  

  • just out of reach of katich

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 06:29  

  • katich misses it. doesnt get to it

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 06:29  

  • will be interesting how Harmison plays Warne

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 06:29  

  • Ah this looks fun.

    By Blogger ClannZú, at 06:30  

  • 4 by Harmison

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 06:30  

  • 4 to harmisson

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 06:30  

  • I always think Harmison is one of the better Nr 11's in the world...

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 06:31  

  • Warne to Harmison now...

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 06:31  

  • tiger where are you now?? i am still standing by my original prediction of 375.

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 06:32  

  • Harmison some how survies the last two balls. Surprised he did not swing

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 06:34  

  • 2 more

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 06:37  

  • Giles should try to hang on and not throw away his wicket.

    10 runs in 20 minutes might be more important than 20 in 10!

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 06:37  

  • 7 men on the boundary for giles.

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 06:37  

  • good running..

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 06:38  

  • Isn't there a captaincy for Dummies book Ponting can refer to ?

    By Blogger ClannZú, at 06:39  

  • almost run out but eventually safe.

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 06:39  

  • Calnnzu, that would be too difficult for Ponting..

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 06:40  

  • calanzzu im surprised he hasnt been exposed before this. i guess having 2 great bowlers and 2 dangedrous openers covers over such flaws.

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 06:40  

  • 37 overs by warne already. 2 more to giles

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 06:41  

  • and a 'decent' wicketkeeper-batsman...

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 06:41  

  • A big reason also is most teams don't plan as well as England have. India being the only other team to have the talent and planning to fight the bully.

    By Blogger ClannZú, at 06:42  

  • saurabh dont forget a coach who seems more of a philosopher than a coach. helps divert attention from RP

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 06:43  

  • 64 of the 103 overs have been bolwed by Warne/McGrath...

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 06:43  

  • and a bunch of 'decent' middle order batsmen, including himself ;-)

    By Blogger worma, at 06:43  

  • worma i think we were talking about his captaincy skills rather than the team skills!!!

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 06:44  

  • yeah..i thought they were talking of how he 'got away' with it so far...

    By Blogger worma, at 06:45  

  • I think Katich should ball...its easier to hit fast bowlers than the spinning ball.

    By Blogger ClannZú, at 06:45  

  • Uh I mean bowl not ball...that was embarassing. :0

    By Blogger ClannZú, at 06:46  

  • fuck, what a shot!!!

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 06:48  

  • bbc commentators say mcg might get fined for actiing like an idiot
    4 to harmisson

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 06:49  

  • even flintoff would be proud of that tonk over mid off.

    Another four over the wicket keeper...

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 06:49  

  • Harmison giving it back to Lee.

    By Blogger ClannZú, at 06:49  

  • 4 more i think

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 06:49  

  • and another4 . Lee is looking sad...

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 06:50  

  • 4 more

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 06:50  

  • agnew says RP isnt thinking too much right now. thus allowing harmmy to get some runs

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 06:51  

  • good analysis by simon hughes on how Giles has imporved his batting against Warne as the series has progressed.

    I have learnt more about cricket watching his analysis then from any other source.

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 06:52  

  • not out!

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 06:52  

  • 373/9 i had predicted 375. game seeems to be drifitng away from aus.

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 06:52  

  • gone

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 06:52  

  • bad decison again. even with a naked eye, it was spinning too much. Hawk-eye confirms...

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 06:53  

  • anyway, some justice for the Aussies...

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 06:54  

  • It would have been 375 had Giles taken those 2 runs. Oh well England have almost taken a session out of Australia.
    I'd love for Hayden to get out before lunch.

    By Blogger ClannZú, at 06:54  

  • saurabh, u seem to be in fine nick today :-)

    By Blogger worma, at 06:54  

  • ok back

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 07:02  

  • Guys, do any of you happen to know of some good mp3 blogs ?
    http://opendir.blogspot.com is the only one I visit.

    By Blogger ClannZú, at 07:03  

  • almost got him with a bad ball. langer that is.

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 07:08  

  • worma, I should be in the middle instead of Billy & Rudi.

    ...and Ponting :-)

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 07:09  

  • Uh-oh, Harmison holding his elbow with pain after the 1st over. Hope its nothing serious.

    By Blogger ClannZú, at 07:09  

  • saurabh...yeah :-)....and we all can replaced Ponting atleast ;-)

    But seriously, amidst all this criticism of Ponting and praise of Vaughan (by commentators etc) the only aspect I see being discussed is field placement.

    By Blogger worma, at 07:12  

  • test

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 07:16  

  • sorry, for some reason could not post...

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 07:16  

  • Hayden continues to 'plant' his foot before the ball pitches. Recon he will have trouble with the reverse swing again...

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 07:17  

  • like that ball. If only it was closer to the stupms...

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 07:18  

  • and again. Had to move his lag back in the last minute...

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 07:19  

  • Hoggard is ON...bowled a couple of beauties already.
    Harmison however...

    By Blogger ClannZú, at 07:20  

  • Twice now Hayden has tried to pull and both times he has been unable to connect.

    By Blogger ClannZú, at 07:23  

  • classic langer shot.

    Recon flintoff will bowl one over to hayden if there is time...

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 07:26  

  • Thats top quality coverage...the Analyst - Simon Hughes showing how the ball is already scruffed up. One of the reasons is because Harmison doesn't bowl with an upright seam position..sometimes using a scrambled seam which makes the ball land on the shiny side.

    By Blogger ClannZú, at 07:30  

  • clannzu, Simon Hughes is great.

    Last year, he got Murli to Lords and did a complete analysis of his bowling. That analysis convined me Murli does not chuck.

    I rate his contribution to cricket broacast higher then any ordinary comentator, including Richie Benaud.

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 07:49  

  • dadagiri:

    If you can read this, I did read you late long comment. :-)

    By Blogger Ruchir Joshi, at 07:51  

  • Back to the game. Langer looks in good touch but Hayden does not. Next session is key (more for the Aussies then England). The need to go to tea with 1 (or max 2) down. Any more, and they will be facing an uphill task.

    Hwoever, England can still come back even if the Aussies are 120 for 1 at Tea...

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 07:52  

  • Guys, watch the lunch break program...all the Channel 4 commentators are discussing England's rise over the years.

    By Blogger ClannZú, at 07:55  

  • Damn, they just showed the ball that Vaughan bowled to get Sachin out.

    Great ball, but something I would rather not see considering that I am supporting England :-)

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 07:58  

  • Clannzu, loved that Flintoff/Ntini tussle. Right?

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 07:58  

  • Hell yes...those are the kind of mental games that go a long way in gaining psychological edge over a player and a team.

    By Blogger ClannZú, at 08:03  

  • yeah saurabh, I rem that Vaughan ball...(almost as clear as that shoaib ball!)...was prefect. Are they talking about possibility of Vaughan bowling? I wonder why he doesnt do it more often? Any fitness issues with him? Otherwise he should, this game. And ofcourse lots of it in Pak and Ind tours

    By Blogger worma, at 08:07  

  • People watching from roof-tops outside the ground...just like India.

    By Blogger ClannZú, at 08:22  

  • not aware of any injury issues with him. Probably prefers to let his main bowlers do the job.

    The Shoaib ball! Do you mean the one at calcutta? Wow...

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 08:24  

  • that was close...

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 08:27  

  • Freddie comes in and straight away things are happening.

    By Blogger ClannZú, at 08:28  

  • and again nearly.


    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 08:28  

  • now why has vaughan removed that guy from the deep backward point for Langer? He has had one there for the entire series to cut his fours...

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 08:30  

  • Hayden looking more certain in his defence and strokes but still not quite timing the ball.

    By Blogger ClannZú, at 08:38  

  • England bowling suddenly looks very very thin. I think it is almost upto these 2 flintoff and hamry to get most of the wickets, giles and maybe hoggard can plug one end up. Collingwood and bell will at best bowl about 10-12 overs between them every day. Aussies ahvea great chance any total about 500 and England is in with a great chance.

    If England lose the ashes they would be extremely unluckyas theey should have and could have won the 3 test, but for rain and some of hoggard’s actions. Not many people know this, but it came out in a Derek pringle article. And the start of the last over macgill came out and told mcgrath that he sud stand well outside the batting crease to avoid getting lbw and cover his stumps to make sure hee does not get bowled. What he forgot to tell is that you must get back to your crease after the ball passes the bat. So on the 2nd ball when GM was beaten, GJ throw the ball to hoggard with GM well outside his crease. Hoggard decided against breaking the stumps as it was against “sportsman” spirit.

    Could someone confirm this to me?
    Also is it sportsman like to stand so far outside the crease and cover your stumps with your pads to avoid getting bowled?

    By Blogger Avinash, at 08:38  

  • avinash - McGrath is well within his right to stand outside the crease and cover his stumps. I don't think Australia drew the match just becuase Hoggard decided not to "stump" McGrath.
    I think Flintoff is bowling well here as he has all series and Hoggard is looking more penetrative than Harmison. I think with more cloud cover and bit of rain he will be tough to handle. Boycott thinks Giles will be a bit tricky to handle here...so lets see how he goes.

    By Blogger ClannZú, at 08:44  

  • it was actually warne wo mentioned this immediately after that particular test in his column. i dont recall the exact sequence of events but guess u meant that hoggard threw the ball to the keeper instead of the stumps

    By Blogger JD, at 08:45  

  • hayden waiting for second bowling change it seems. and not having jones will be immediately visible...cos the pressure would be off him. This is exactly the reason why Eng bowling was good this series....no let-offs...no release of the pressure

    By Blogger worma, at 08:47  

  • ..and eng knows...so the second bowling change is harmy for hoggard ;-)

    By Blogger worma, at 08:50  

  • harmy after a long time would be bowling so much in the first hour of the innings. Vaughan will struggle to get his bowling order correct since he has been used to the 4+1 bowling attack.

    By Blogger Mayur, at 09:01  

  • i guess hayden is doing all he can to stay away from trouble. he seems to have cut off his favorite cover drive for a while now. restraint seems his mantra.

    By Blogger Mayur, at 09:03  

  • if eng dont get any wickets soon they'd have to rely solely on reverse swing and in that process might lose the plot

    By Blogger JD, at 09:05  

  • there is far too much importance being put on it by the media and commentators and if the bowlers have fallen for the hype it might be their undoing

    By Blogger JD, at 09:06  

  • 2 effortless sixes by Langer. So the ploy of hitting Giles out of the attack at the start of the series is finally being executed.

    By Blogger ClannZú, at 09:08  

  • If I were Vaughan I would be happy that Langer is going after Giles..because the other bowlers don't seem like getting the openers out. If Langer mishits and gets out thats a lucky break for England.

    By Blogger ClannZú, at 09:10  

  • but clannzu, there is nothing in the pitch and giles is not a warne. langer would be happy to wait for a while now since giles has started bowling flat. one day style bowling. unless langer messes it up completely, he will be fine.

    By Blogger Mayur, at 09:15  

  • Clanzu is hoggard not well within his rights then to break the stumps, why do we profess double standards. i remember a similar incident when kapil mankaded peter kirsten after repeated warnings. wasn't if a 37 year oldie like kirsten trying to get a couple of feet by running before the bowl was bowled to cover up his like of speed between the wickets?

    By Blogger Avinash, at 09:15  

  • i am surprized to see giles already off the attack

    By Blogger Mayur, at 09:19  

  • Sure Hoggard could have done it...I'm not arguing against it. I'm just saying that wasn't the reason by England couldn't pull off a win.

    By Blogger ClannZú, at 09:20  

  • I'm surprised too, mayur.

    By Blogger ClannZú, at 09:20  

  • I think England (and Australia) will realize at this point in the game that the key bowler in the series for England had been Simon Jones!

    By Blogger Gopalblog, at 09:21  

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