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Thursday, September 22, 2005

Ind-ZIM T2 Day3 : Open Thread

Lets see how soon we get this over today. Streak jokes about having to play an opener's role. Funny but sad.


  • Kolkata High Court stays BCCI AGM


    By Blogger Kansultant, at 03:42  

  • Hey Kan,
    I heard NDTV is showing breaking news that Ganguly has been appointed captain till the 2007 WC. Is this true?

    By Blogger Dadagiri, at 03:47  

  • Guys, we missed a couple of very interesting landmarks at the oval.

    Check it out on my blog....

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 04:03  

  • Today is a big day ladies and gentleman. Savour it. We are going to win a series abroad!

    After today the next one looks pretty far off. We should be thankful that Bangladesh and Zimbabwe have Test status.

    By Blogger Jiet, at 04:04  

  • dadagiri, the only way he can get the captaincy till 2007 is by using your name :-)

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 04:07  

  • jiet, we already won a series abroad;Remember we beat Bangladesh last year :-)

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 04:09  

  • Jokes apart dadagiri, I would like to see he Indian board appoint captains like Australia & England.

    Vaughan is the captain of the English Team. Full-stop! Ditto Ponting.

    This think of apointing captains for one-series or 6-months is rubbish....

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 04:11  

  • That's a bit unfair Saurabh. Remember Pakistan?

    By Blogger Dadagiri, at 04:11  

  • The discussion has always been winning a series outside the subcontinent

    By Blogger Ravi1010, at 04:13  

  • morning, guys.. any luck with sportingstreams today? i still have trouble

    By Blogger Raju, at 04:13  

  • raju,
    there is a new link

    By Blogger Sahir, at 04:13  

  • Saurubh: How could I forget? A moment to cherish for every Indian fan.

    By Blogger Jiet, at 04:14  

  • Agree on the captaincy issue. In fact, SG has also mentioned this in 'The Sportstar' interview that Worma had posted earlier today. As I see it, if the selectors opt for a change in captaincy after this series, then only we can see a captain appointed for long term. If they decide to retain SG, I doubt he'll get a long term.

    By Blogger Dadagiri, at 04:14  

  • On winning oustide the sub continent, we will set the next benchmark of winning to the east of Bay of bengal and then move to west of Arabian Sea, then around the Americas and so on and so forth.Ne'er will be happy

    By Blogger Ravi1010, at 04:15  

  • ravi, dadagiri, I was kidding...

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 04:15  

  • ravi: I respectfully disagree. The challenge of crossing the border and playing bat and ball against Bangaldeshis is immense.

    By Blogger Jiet, at 04:15  

  • well we can always go and beat USA!!! That would look good on the resume...

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 04:17  

  • Careful dear jiet, with such heavy handed sarcasm you may sprain your shoulder.

    By Blogger i, at 04:18  

  • uhhh! ugly! Poor running and lazy fielding; easy runout opportunity missed!

    By Blogger Sahir, at 04:18  

  • Run out chance missed.

    By Blogger Dadagiri, at 04:19  

  • Yaar i,
    Why such a short id? I always confuse your name with 'said' untill I see that it's in Black instead of Blue.

    By Blogger Dadagiri, at 04:21  

  • Hey..I have just created my own blogspot...

    Herein, I have posted a write up on my past favorites...to begin with..they are Bob Massie and Lawrence Rowe. Please check it out and share your comments with me.

    As regards my current favorite....well..we are having enough of that anyway!

    By Blogger Blwe_torch, at 04:21  

  • i Sir!....nice seeing you in here!

    By Blogger Blwe_torch, at 04:22  

  • Let me lsit down varied excuses that we have for belittling the Indian Team
    1.Only win in India
    2.Only win in sub continent
    3.Ha ! Can win only against minnows
    4.Sure we won..but the opposition did not have x,y,z
    5.Big Deal! After so many years,one win is no great deal.We need to do it consistently
    6.Sure..we won..but it was not a typical "bouncy and fast' wicket

    Throw this open for more cynical stuff..Go on.. add as many as u like

    By Blogger Ravi1010, at 04:22  

  • i: i train my deltoids regularly...obligated as an indian fan.

    By Blogger Jiet, at 04:23  

  • Right through vacant third slip area! Absolutely ridiculous that Zim are 150 runs behind with Zaheer angling the ball into the right handers and leaving them, and yet NO THIRD SLIP?

    By Blogger Sahir, at 04:23  

  • Read that as 'list'

    By Blogger Ravi1010, at 04:24  

  • Well my name begins with "i", so seems interesting to sign my posts/emails with "i"

    "i said...

    Nice to see you Mr. Torch.

    By Blogger i, at 04:24  

  • sahir, thanks a lot!!

    By Blogger Raju, at 04:25  

  • ravi: I have no excuse. A thousand Apologies

    By Blogger Jiet, at 04:26  

  • ravi, we can come up with excuses, etc but the sad part is we don't win consistently and hence the frustration.

    But on the +ve side, we don't lose consistently as well..

    By Blogger Saurabh Wahi, at 04:26  

  • Lovely Jiet, I admire you for taking your position of shouldering India's misfortunes alone.

    By Blogger i, at 04:26  

  • good afternoon gentlemen. looks like we are finally going to break the "no wins outside the subcontinent" jinx today. lets hope that this is a fresh start and it continues for us.

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 04:26  

  • i: When I was young I read the story of Atlas ...the Indian cricket fan who gave up on Indian cricket...inspired me no end.

    By Blogger Jiet, at 04:29  

  • guys does anyone know when and who we are playing outside the subcontinent next?

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 04:30  

  • West Indies next summer

    By Blogger Sahir, at 04:32  

  • Friend Jiet, In the age of Atlas the fans were much less forgiving. They put the losing team into a pit of wild dogs, while the Captain was left alone with the Royal Bengal Tiger.

    Atlas, me thinks, was a cricketer, not a fan. They are the chaps shouldering the burdens of our failure.

    By Blogger i, at 04:32  

  • Coventry getting stuck in here

    By Blogger Sahir, at 04:33  

  • Coventry seems to be inspired by Bhajji

    By Blogger Dadagiri, at 04:33  

  • I like this guy Coventry. Slam bam, thank you maam.

    By Blogger i, at 04:33  

  • prem, worma
    is there a reason(maybe from pp's reliable source) that dheeraj jadhav was not included in the team. that is apart from the obvious fact that there are a few spaces being taken up in the squad?

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 04:33  

  • well, for the first time in the test series, i woke up early to watch the game b'cos today is indeed a big day.

    Each time India leaves for Zim, we always say "Minnows, should win easiy, and the wins against such a weak team dont matter, blah blah.." Invariably, the last two Zim tours were preceded by successful conquering of Aus at home (in '01 and in '98). What happened though? Weak or strong this Zim team is, let us cherish the big moment awaiting, guys...

    By Blogger Raju, at 04:34  

  • It will be interesting to see how the bowlers react, who in the recent past have completely lost the plot when a batsman has really given the charge (Afridi).

    By Blogger Sahir, at 04:34  

  • i: you strike me as very pious and relgious person. Your faith in cricket is unshakeable.

    'Tis true then...Indian cricket died for the sins of the fans.

    By Blogger Jiet, at 04:36  

  • If any one is watching could you please tell me how well is ZK actually bowling in this series? It is well known that amongst the quicks GC’s 1st choice (and the same holds true for most of us) is IP but who are the number 2 and 3? AN surely would not have endeared himself to GC by shying away from playing in the tests it could mean the end of tests for AN for some time to come and GC never really seemed to have liked ZK’s attitude. That leaves LB and AA, by indications I don’t feel GC is really that impressed with LB. Else he would have got more than just one ODI in SL and made it into the ODI squad at least here. Also here in Harare the 12th man is not LB but AA. AA seems to have impressed GC by his attitude and willingness to return mid flight for the test series in spite of his wife expecting and staying back for the 2nd test also even after it was known he in not in the 11. So in GC’s list is AA at number 2? Now wonder which set of sisters could GC and AA have had an affair simultaneously in the past (their age gap is 30 years) so that AA is able to blackmail GC? Or wait this time it could be a mother daughter pair, I am totally confused…..please AA bashers over to you to find out from your “sources”

    By Blogger Avinash, at 04:37  

  • Coventry gone

    By Blogger Sahir, at 04:38  

  • jiet on a removed note, i was just lookin g at your web page and apparently we have similar tastes in movies. rashomon, 8 and a half etc. ok back to cricket

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 04:39  

  • Personally speaking O' seer Jiet, I have no particular interest in cricket. I like it when India wins, and if not, hey, there is still tomorrow. To me, cricket is a profession, and let the 11 do their jobs, and unless we can do it better than them, lets halt the firing squad.

    By Blogger i, at 04:39  

  • Funny how Gavaskar is complimenting whoever thought of Zaheer coming around the wicket; I seem to remember my post yesterday saying this is exactly what Zaheer should do! Andrew Flintoff is brilliant against the lefthanders bowling around the wicket, angling the ball in, and getting it to leave them. Zaheer wouldn't do too bad tring to emulate that against the righthanders since he consistently gets the ball to move away from them.

    By Blogger Sahir, at 04:45  

  • i: very sensible I must say. I should have no business satying up past 2:00 for this but that is me. Lately prefer watching England play.

    By Blogger Jiet, at 04:46  

  • ravi,

    Call me cynic, but fact of the matter is, we are dead-buns when
    - we face quality opponent,
    - we face not-so-familar conditions,
    - opposition is full strength.

    All the champion teams have conquered all of the above.

    You might be a believer, but just beliving in mediocrity does not make it a champion.
    One has to identify it and improve on it.

    By Blogger Shailesh Mungikar, at 04:47  

  • ok i,
    so in your opinion which of the following would be accurate:
    1. we should only praise our team since we cannot criticize them since we dont play for india.
    2. we should not have an opinion about cricket as we dont play it at a high enough level to qualify us.
    3.only a person of a certian proffession is allowed or might have the requisite knowledge to pass geral comments about that proffession.
    4.all of the above.
    5. none of the above. in which case, please sir if you have the time please enlighten me.

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 04:47  

  • Ah, little Jiet, you seem to like cricket. Good for you. I wouldn't pay the price of a rotten mango to watch England. Unless it was getting thrashed.

    Watching the poms and the oz play, was like watching two plug-uglies play. The choice was down to rooting for the lesser of the two idiots.

    Similar situation when the poms go against the pakis.

    By Blogger i, at 04:50  

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    By Blogger i, at 04:54  

  • i: "the price of rotten mango"...the best things in life are free.

    By Blogger Jiet, at 04:55  

  • Dear Mr. Slice. I am not asking you not to have an opinion. For that might lead to constipation, as has been observed in the past. I only encourage you to exercise caution in passing that opinion around as definitive.

    Similarly, please criticize, but again base your criticism on what you know. Remember this is not your child's birthday arrangements we are discussing, but peoples careers, their life's work. Now, your or my opinions won't matter. But, when a similar shotgun attitude is taken by journalists, it is very damagaing.

    You dig?

    By Blogger i, at 04:55  

  • Dear fair Jiet, you forget the great American adage: There are no free lunches.

    By Blogger i, at 04:56  

  • yes i
    i dig. what i do not comprehend is what exactly your intention of interacting with people here is. i was under the impression it was to smirk a little at peoples behaviour and opinions on this blog. now i am cotally tonfused.

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 04:58  

  • i: Ever find a twenty dollar bill? That was three free lunches...

    By Blogger Jiet, at 04:58  

  • Thats fair enough i Sir!....we had been regularly protesting against this 'anti-someone' agenda...but the blog seems to be thriving on just that..

    By Blogger Blwe_torch, at 05:01  

  • Bring on the spinners, with close in fielders, and end this.

    By Blogger Sahir, at 05:03  

  • Jiet: Ever hear of the expression - What goes around, comes around.

    So, ever lost any money? That was three free lunches doen the drain.

    Mr. Slice: That is a very good question. I don't intend to smirk, for that is childish. Mostly, I am stuck in the middle of never-ending asymptotics, and this forum reminds me of days when I used to watch cricket. There were always this small bunch who would be instructing Ganguly how to play the outswinger, telling Laxman to hit sixes, and telling Kumble how to grip the ball. Ah, memories.

    By Blogger i, at 05:04  

  • I forgot to add, Mr Slice, that while opinions I can tolerate, it is the chaps who gloat on people's failure, for it may justify their opinions, who really get my goat.

    By Blogger i, at 05:06  

  • Shailesh the joke here is you are comparing this Indian side with champion sides… ha ha ha. The point I guess ravi is trying to make is there is a state in between the grat, average and pathetic. This side when it wins is compared by some to great teams or that it has the potential to be one. Well if we can get an all rounder, a wk batsmen and a good opener and a real real quick bowler like bond we are class side, but then what is left, almost everything except the middle order and the spinners are missing in this side.

    I believe we are an average side which oscillates between pathetic performances and a few real good ones. Among the missing pieces of the jigsaw I think we have the guys if groomed can fill in a few spots

    All rounder IP, WK MD, opener not sure about GG still believe someone like chopra or jaffer should still be considered( upto the coach GG is too flashy outside off for my liking) , one real quick bowler we don’t have any on the seen. Yes yes munaf and VRV but these guys haven’t even bowled a full season and with VRV someone mentioned he bowls at 145kmph. Hey AN clocked 149 in World cup and AA clocked 140-145 consistently in his 1st series in oz. we need some one who can consistently bowl in the 145+ to 150 bracket and move occasionally upto 155.
    No one on the horizon so improve fielding, get quicks to bowl better lines and lengths and most importantly quicks who can contribute in the field and with the bat because we need 5 bowlers

    By Blogger Avinash, at 05:07  

  • i: Nice come back ;).

    Now I have to wonder, why you would follow the game, if you don't care for cricket.

    By Blogger Jiet, at 05:07  

  • Shailesh...You said
    We are dead-buns when
    - we face quality opponent,
    - we face not-so-familar conditions,
    - opposition is full strength.

    1.Except for Australia till recent times,I do not see any team performing against quality opponents.For Ex.,Eng won against WI(not a Qlty opponent) and againt NZ(at home)
    2.Agree on thsi point..which is more an administrative(pitch committee) issue which should have been addressed a long time back
    3.Are u suggesting that we should back out from tours if the opposition is not in "full" strength.Maybe , we should redifien the parameters and assess how many countires have played against full strength opposition.(A missing McG or Shane Warne does not mean a 'weak' opposition)

    By Blogger Ravi1010, at 05:09  

  • Arey bhaiya "I" ... agar koi tumhaari goat le gaya to tum ne appna naam hi 'main' rakh liya... Why hv u taken up ur goat's knack of doing "main main" all around ??

    By Blogger Yeda_Yakub, at 05:10  

  • India has a magic about its game. Its failure and success seems to inspire millions.
    Its not a bunch of atheletes...but a bunch of talent.
    Indian cricket team continues to inspire us thru' thick and thin..

    By Blogger Blwe_torch, at 05:11  

  • We beat the Aussies in 2001 at home without Kumble and Srinath. We probably used as many as 10 different bowlers in that series.

    By Blogger Dadagiri, at 05:11  

  • Jiet pardnuh, Let me rephrase that. I don't care much for cricket, in the sense that I wont spend time analysing someone's batting stance, or a team config, or a fielding placement, but I love to watch India playing cricket.

    By Blogger i, at 05:13  

  • Poor start to Dheeraj Jadhav's test career. Drops a sitter! As I type Sehwag drops one as well! And another one ! 3 in 3 balls!

    By Blogger Sahir, at 05:14  

  • LOL....three drops in three balls

    By Blogger Jiet, at 05:14  

  • I believe the early 70's must be awesome!...2 away -victories against mighty West Indies and a mighty England!
    I wonder if India really realized at that time..what we can achieve?!

    By Blogger Blwe_torch, at 05:14  

  • Three catches dropped on three consecutive balls !!!!!!!!

    By Blogger Dadagiri, at 05:15  

  • hahaha
    Yakub mian, main kya main-main karoonga. Woh to hindustan ke cricket premi karte hain. "Main batata hoon is team ko kya karan chahiye"

    Rahi bakri ki baat, main to mana raha hoon ke chor vegetarian ho. Badi mahengi this bakri meri.

    Waise achcha vichaar hai tumhara, ab se main email ko bakri ke naam se likha karoonga.

    By Blogger i, at 05:16  

  • May be a costly miss by jadhav, VS and DK we need to be careful here these guys are very good stroke makers and if they get set then they can do some serious damage pretty quickly. Even now a couple of 100 partnerships can bring this match back to life

    By Blogger Avinash, at 05:17  

  • I agree our performance varies between pathetick to brilliant. 2001 was brilliant. To think again, that was the brilliancy of VVS and Harbhajan.
    However, consistancy is another hallmark of champion team. How about playing to potential!

    NZ is not be champion team, but I believe they play upto whatever available potenial they have.

    When you see the potential getting rotten, you can't help but dejected.

    By Blogger Shailesh Mungikar, at 05:17  

  • i: I have to agree that watching India try to play cricket is fun.

    BTW, I noticed that Mirza lost in Delhi to an unknown player and said "it was one of those days"

    By Blogger Jiet, at 05:17  

  • Lost in Delhi? Kolkata yaar.

    By Blogger Dadagiri, at 05:19  

  • some background noise from the commentary box: Gautam Bhimani should be sent to the slip cordon..!!

    By Blogger Raju, at 05:19  

  • dadagiri: my bad :)

    By Blogger Jiet, at 05:20  

  • Simply cannot understand why the slip cordon was minus Dravid and Laxman! Does everybody have diarrhea or something? Can't stay on the field?

    By Blogger Sahir, at 05:22  

  • I agree dear jiet, similar to watching half of India's humanity "try" and educate the other half about cricket.

    By Blogger i, at 05:23  

  • Dravid was very much there. Laxman was in the pavilion during that eventful over, but he's back now.

    By Blogger Dadagiri, at 05:23  

  • Was it not Jadhav at 1st slip and Sehwag at second?

    By Blogger Sahir, at 05:24  

  • Blignaut can be very dangerous in the ultra-agressive mode he seems to now be in.

    By Blogger Sahir, at 05:26  

  • Nope, Jadhav at 2nd and Sehwag at third where they dropped the first and the second catch respectively. For the third one, Kaarthik flew in front of Dravid, or else it'd have been a comfortable catch at first slip.

    By Blogger Dadagiri, at 05:26  

  • Runs everywhere; very frustrating!

    By Blogger Sahir, at 05:26  

  • Karthik cannot be blamed for going for it, but can be blamed for dropping it. The man with the gloves ought to go for anything that can be reached.

    By Blogger Sahir, at 05:28  

  • Looks like Blignaut has the belief that its his day today... ( 3 dropped catches in a row).. so he is chance his arms

    By Blogger Yeda_Yakub, at 05:28  

  • Looks like India may have to bat again

    By Blogger Sahir, at 05:28  

  • sahir: so if u for it you have to take it?? ;)

    By Blogger Jiet, at 05:29  

  • Not blaiming anyone, just pointing out the positions of various fielders

    By Blogger Dadagiri, at 05:30  

  • jiet,
    yeah, pretty much
    that was a relatively easy catch by test match keeping standards

    By Blogger Sahir, at 05:33  

  • Bring in Bhajji yaaron...

    Dear "I",
    Its not me suggesting. ... its ur bakri next to me... :-)

    By Blogger Yeda_Yakub, at 05:33  

  • It was poor footwork by Karthik that required a dive when it should not have been necessary

    By Blogger Sahir, at 05:34  

  • Dear Yakub, why do you keep my bakri next to yourself.
    I never knew that a goat could attract a man so.

    Well since you like it so much, I will let you have it for free.


    By Blogger i, at 05:38  

  • The Test Match is heading towards a close finish. If Zimbabwe get a lead of 100, who knows?

    By Blogger Nearly Man, at 05:39  

  • India just need to be a little careful here. Should Blignaut and Masakadza erase this 50 odd runs deficit, their explosive strokeplaying capabilities could put India under some pressure when building a lead.

    By Blogger Sahir, at 05:41  

  • Dear "I"
    Thanks for the generosity...(As if u had a choice !)... and BTW .. its next to me not bcoz of my attraction for ur goat.. its ur old one... admiring ur ' mainn main' ways here... anyways...

    I stop this ridiculous chain here... othrs... sorry to hv disturbed u...

    By Blogger Yeda_Yakub, at 05:42  

  • Ya, it seems that dream is still eluding us (oversees victory)...poor gangs, he will not even get the comprehensive win against the minows.

    By Blogger sharpant, at 05:43  

  • Whatever you say dear Yakub. Anything for you and my goat.

    By Blogger i, at 05:45  

  • 3rd seamer 3rd seamer 3rd seamer ……………….. the match is crying for this. As I pointed out the dropped catches may really really prove costly

    By Blogger Avinash, at 05:45  

  • Terrible decision in my opinion! Plumb lbw not given!

    By Blogger Sahir, at 05:46  

  • Harper actually signaled he felt it was going down legside! Needs some glasses!

    By Blogger Sahir, at 05:48  

  • Mr. i,
    you fool! cann't you just SFTU!

    By Blogger sri_n, at 05:51  

  • Dear Sri, pray what is SFTU? Is it something bad that requires such modesty on your part?

    How is your day going so far? Everything Ok? Are you getting nervous watching the cricket causing this chain of emotion on you part?

    By Blogger i, at 05:54  

  • I certainly would not want to be chasing anymore than 65-70 going for our first overseas series victory in a long time. This is beginning to drift rather quickly. Dabengwa, coming in next, has already shown his liking for this Indian attack.

    By Blogger Sahir, at 05:55  

  • WHERE IS THE URGENCY FROM THE INDIANS? Thank God for the lunch break, where if I was coach, I would kick some you know what!

    By Blogger Sahir, at 05:57  

  • trail by just 23!

    By Blogger Sahir, at 05:58  

  • Mr. i - ur love for writing is actually commendable, but unfortunately you are fit for writing inside the lavatories only.

    By Blogger sri_n, at 05:58  

  • pretenders...

    By Blogger Jiet, at 05:59  

  • The pressure is well and truly on!

    By Blogger Sahir, at 06:00  

  • Another drop, this time a toughie by Laxman!

    By Blogger Sahir, at 06:01  

  • Nothing is going to come easy. India could well be chasing 150 to win.

    By Blogger Sahir, at 06:03  

  • this now
    is the best 7th wicket partnership against India.>>>
    Have you noticed, most of the records are against India...even we MAKE some players, get them back to form etc.

    By Blogger sharpant, at 06:03  

  • 150 runs in a session. This is hysterical

    By Blogger Jiet, at 06:04  

  • Looks like ZIM is gonna achieve their target... No innings defeat...

    And India may also pull off their target ... No series win outside the subcon

    By Blogger Yeda_Yakub, at 06:04  

  • 4 dropped catches, one missed run out. That's way too many.

    By Blogger Dadagiri, at 06:04  

  • Dear Sri, why this rancor? Have I in the past hurt ruffled your feathers?

    By the way, just in case you were under a misconception, lavatories are usually used for bodily functions. In case you employ them for literary activities due to, perhaps, lack of paper and notebooks, please let me know. I may be able to help you through ASHA or something.

    By Blogger i, at 06:04  

  • Pathetic 1st session by Indians. 42-5 at one stage to 190-6. 4 dropped catches and one easy run out opprtunity missed.

    By Blogger Sahir, at 06:05  

  • In last 27 overs... Zim has scored 148 runs @ 1 wkt ... They r having fun today..

    By Blogger Yeda_Yakub, at 06:06  

  • anyone watching live...how were those dropped chances??

    By Blogger worma, at 06:07  

  • Mr. i - do you also have this habit of ruffling the feathers, or the *p*hair of the others??

    By Blogger sri_n, at 06:08  

  • Guys morning session stats 28 overs 151 runs at a rate of 5.4. Two batsmen well set past their 50’s. The 1st of the couple of 100 run partnerships has already been executed and if zim are still batting post tea I would be very nervous. Even 125-150 will be tricky for this Indian team. And how onearth can we drop 4 catches in a morning session. Clearly the pitch suits quicks ( 24 of the 26 wickets fallen have gone to quicks) and after our 2 seamers tired we are getting hammered. I just hope we catch everything from now on and ZK and IP bowl good spells here post lunch to finish this off

    By Blogger Avinash, at 06:08  

  • Dear Sharpant, Records against India have an unfortunate habit of occuring against India.

    I wonder why?

    By Blogger i, at 06:08  

  • This is nuts - we should have wrapped them up for abt 120. Makes you wonder abt the quality of our spinners. How come these guys are scoring so fluently when our starts struggled saying the pitch is difficult to bat on etc etc?

    By Blogger Ashvin Iyengar, at 06:10  

  • Worma, 2 of them are easy for sure ( jadhav and karthik ). for Sehwag it was a bit low as well as vvs but he should have taken it

    By Blogger Ananth, at 06:11  

  • Dear Sri, perhaps you could translate the latter part of your previous message into English. As to the first part, I don't ruffle any feathers, and my feathers are never ruffled. Laissez faire, is my policy.

    By Blogger i, at 06:11  

  • thx ananth...well ok..some days you have those catches not sticking....its more important to see if we bowled the right line (and lengths)....bhajji looked straying to me..from what i read

    By Blogger worma, at 06:12  

  • ashvin check out how many overs in the zim innings were bowled by spinners, just 9 that too on the 1st day. 2nd day not a single over was given to KD. Our spinners or good but not great and world beatersm only kumble may be classified as greatmeven that is dicey. We must realise that we don't have great bowlers in india right now but we do have a couple of great batsmen , RD and SRT. So we must cover our weak points. we sud have definetly played 3 seamers here

    By Blogger Avinash, at 06:14  

  • Mr.i - aha, your feathers are ruffled now!

    BTW, don't pretend as if you don't know what is SFTU and *p*hair!!

    By Blogger sri_n, at 06:15  

  • I wish SG played against India!

    By Blogger Blwe_torch, at 06:17  

  • Mr.i- OK, peace, I have to leave now, nice talking to you fool!

    By Blogger sri_n, at 06:18  

  • sri even i am clueless as to what sftu is. i , i dont blame you for your lack of comprehension.
    from now on i am going to treat you as pure comic relief. i guess that seems to be your main purpose since you are not qualified to talk about cricket adn refuse to share your opinion about goats and your ruffling abilities!!!

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 06:18  

  • Mr.i- OK, peace, I have to leave now, nice talking to you fool!

    By Blogger sri_n, at 06:18  

  • Whatever you say Sir sri, You obviously have more insight into people's minds then they themselves. No doubt your cricketing brain is just as good.

    And whether you believe me or not, SFTU and *p*hair remain mysteries to me. Perhaps with your telepathic prowess you can transmit their meanings to me.

    By Blogger i, at 06:20  

  • my feeling and secret wish seems to be comming true, just b4 going to bed I prayed Blignaut would come to the party. Hope he continues through the day today. ZIM achieve a lead of atleast 150+ and then the fun begins, if Streak can recreate his magical first innings spell we are in for a treat of a match.

    If nothing else atleast we will continue to remain consistent.

    The real reason behind wishing this scenario was to rather swallow one more defeat and ignominy thus ensuring Captain Courageous SAurav GAnguly will then for sure have to be dropped.

    Hang me if you will but I hope thats what happens so we close a few chapters like the Aussies have just done.

    By Blogger Bedoon_Esam, at 06:22  

  • Dear Mr. Slice, Of course, I am comic relief. God knows you chaps need some stress release after you get so uptight about things.

    By the way, you never asked me about my opinion on goats, though I dare say Yakub sir is more at home with it now.

    Ruffling feather is a common idiom.

    By Blogger i, at 06:24  

  • Completely away from Cricket...Can someone throw light on why Hurricanes have female names(Katrina , Rita ...)??

    By Blogger Ravi1010, at 06:25  

  • Dear Mr. Esam, your willingness to sacrifice others for the greater good is worthy of applause.

    May God be with you.

    By Blogger i, at 06:25  

  • yaar bedoon
    what can a captain(whoever he is since i have sworn not to talk about SG) do if his spinners arent gettign turn?? similarly what can a captain do if his slip cathers dont hold on to cathes. if this is about not having a 3rd seamer i think that blame lies with the entire team management.

    By Blogger K-Slice, at 06:25  

  • Dear Ravi, the answer may lie in the fact that they suck in everything in sight.

    By Blogger i, at 06:26  

  • bedoon_esam...am a bit confused...do you want/hope for India to loose...or you just think they are not good enough to win? Or you want us to loose because thats the convenient way of kicking out a captain or any other player?..I dont think Aus 'planned' their Ashes debacle because they couldnt figure out how the heck to tell Martyn to go??

    By Blogger worma, at 06:26  

  • K-slice..what cls a thied seamer have done..3 more cathces of his bowling would have also been dropped thereby bringing an end to that poor soul's career

    By Blogger Ravi1010, at 06:27  

  • Well said Sir Worma, but you underestimate Sri Bedoon_esam's capibilities to out-Aussie the Aussies.

    By Blogger i, at 06:28  

  • Sorry..Read as "Cld a third"..Bad laptop keys...complemented by atrocious typing

    By Blogger Ravi1010, at 06:28  

  • 'i'..maybe..but that is only a small part of the bigger answer that I expect some of my fellow bloggers to come up with

    By Blogger Ravi1010, at 06:30  

  • 'i'..incidentally...whirlpools suck...hurricanes blow :))

    By Blogger Ravi1010, at 06:31  

  • ah ravi sir is expecting the answer full of truth.

    maybe it is way to draw analogy with dame fortune's fickle ways.

    By Blogger i, at 06:32  

  • Dear Ravi,
    Hurricanes too have a low pressure centre, and so do suck in things like whirlpools.

    By Blogger i, at 06:33  

  • hey all :)

    By Blogger Mock Turtle, at 06:34  

  • 'i'...Ah!! Cool..can't dispute that...and am not qualified to talk on subject that is alien to me.See... I accept my limitations..Analogy..Not played highest level of cricket..not qualified to talk on individuals and their performances.

    By Blogger Ravi1010, at 06:36  

  • Worma, batting seems to be easier now especially with the spineers and both them have settled down. But Blignaut is edgy, I think only IP or ZK can get a breakthrough

    By Blogger Ananth, at 06:36  

  • Worma..thought AK was bowling a tidy spell.Any views...from those who are/were watching

    By Blogger Ravi1010, at 06:38  

  • anath...since I'm not watching so can't comment...but I just went throught he cricinfo comm and it does seem that bhajji was bowling short too often....in between got a few on right length....and yes ravi, from the comm it seems kumble was doing better....

    By Blogger worma, at 06:40  

  • Just thinking, why was Laxman off the field when Jadhav dropped the sitter? Ans please do not tell me he had to go to the restroom when we had only been on the field for an hour. And isn't there a fielder with the name Kaif printed on the back of his jersey who would have been a better choice! What may seem like trivial decisions at the time, based in complacency, can prove very costly in the long run. Maybe, not against Zimbabwe, but certainly other sides. Then again, it could prove VERY costly indeed should we managa to pull off a stupendous defeat from here on out.

    By Blogger Sahir, at 06:41  

  • From Cric info...."Dravid picked up a catch in Zimbabwe's second innings which gave him three in the match, and an overall tally of 127 catches, the best among Indians and is on course to overtake Mark Waugh's tally of 161 catches.

    "Greg Chappell and Ian Frazer have focused very hard on fielding. We have taken some good catches and hopefully we would keep doing it. It's important [that] when you get chances you need to hold on to [them], especially against good teams."
    ...What irony

    By Blogger Ravi1010, at 06:42  

  • ..but the bigger pic is that blignaut is/was playing a chancy game and got too many lives...or lets say..so far the chances are going in his favour....thats not a big worry...btw on whose bowling were those three drops in a row?

    By Blogger worma, at 06:42  

  • ZK

    By Blogger Ravi1010, at 06:43  

  • ravi, i saw the interview with RD y'day and he said " we have worked very hard at our fielding" and did not mention any names at all ;-)

    cricinfo, well, what do ya expect?

    By Blogger Mock Turtle, at 06:43  

  • ravi...thats y when i came back just now i asked those who were watching about the nature of those catches....its only Jadhav's catch which was a real sitter.....and surely GC and the team's hard work on catching does not apply to a newcomer like him. The tougher chances are...well...as i said earlier...on some days theys stick.....didn't Yuv take a 'bonus' catch yesterday?

    By Blogger worma, at 06:44  

  • Mock...my stress is on the last part abt holding the catches

    By Blogger Ravi1010, at 06:45  

  • Worma...again..I am not worried abt the cathces being dropped.It is abt how things happpen ...contrary to what we want

    By Blogger Ravi1010, at 06:47  

  • umm..ok ravi :)

    By Blogger worma, at 06:48  

  • jadav's catch : sitter
    Sehwag's catch : low but definitely catchable
    dinesh karthik : was never his catch - flew in the air and messed up a straight catch to Dravid

    pathan's run out miss - MAJOR MESS up. batsman was yards away but he missed collecting a simple throw.

    did not see the fourth catch

    By Blogger Mock Turtle, at 06:48  

  • mock turtle...the teams with reputation of being bad slip catchers are the ones which drop sitters regularly....no teams take the 'tough but catchable' chances all the time...certain individuals, like mark waugh, do....but not teams as such

    By Blogger worma, at 06:50  

  • worma,
    I disagree with your assessment that only Jadhav's catch was a sitter. The drop by Karthik may have looked somewhat difficult because of the dive, but that was only due to his poor footwork. Most test match keepers would have made that look a lot easier than Karthik did on the given instance.

    By Blogger Sahir, at 06:50  

  • sahir...ok..accepted..I am not watching the game :-)...just relied on comments etc here

    By Blogger worma, at 06:52  

  • worma, just saw the replays again - all should have been taken. Laxman dropped the fourth one.

    By Blogger Mock Turtle, at 06:56  


    By Blogger Sahir, at 06:58  

  • mock turtle...ok, but thats why they are called 'tough but catchable? but let me not continue to argue on a point I havent seen live....they all might have been easy ;-)

    By Blogger worma, at 06:59  

  • so this after all is not an innings defeat..

    By Blogger Tiger, at 07:01  

  • and cricinfo gets carried away..once again...saying "end of an epic innings" LOL :-))

    By Blogger worma, at 07:01  

  • worma - I guess by Zimbo standards, this IS an epic innings!

    By Blogger Tiger, at 07:02  

  • While this wicket may never be remembered, I feel it is huge! The batsman were growing in confidence, and I would not have fancied India's chances chasing 150 against an in form Streak on a pitch where the new ball does all sorts of things. Not to mention the pressure of 4th innings, overseas monkey on the back; as I type another one!

    By Blogger Sahir, at 07:02  

  • To finish earlier thought, a loss here could have made this entire season a very long and unsuccessful one. I know if, ands, buts...

    By Blogger Sahir, at 07:03  

  • 5 for Irfan!

    By Blogger Sahir, at 07:04  

  • tiger..but thats not the point...I mean..even 10 runs may also be huge by a particular batsman's standards (many in this lineup)...anyways...we move on..

    By Blogger worma, at 07:04  

  • no - i changed my opinion - they were easily catchable :-)

    By Blogger Mock Turtle, at 07:04  

  • tiger..it can still be an innings defeat ? ;-)

    By Blogger worma, at 07:05  

  • cricinfo will whine away about SG's "unimaginative" captaincy and mention the dropped chances as a natter of fact ;-)

    By Blogger Mock Turtle, at 07:05  

  • worma- high hopes!

    By Blogger Tiger, at 07:06  

  • mock..not fair..you guys watching it live taking us poor people on a ride ;-)

    By Blogger worma, at 07:06  

  • and a 7-er for Pathan?

    By Blogger Tiger, at 07:07  

  • yes tiger...hoping for that is a bit too high ;-).....

    By Blogger worma, at 07:07  

  • people - anyone watching on sportingstrems? I cant get the damn thing to go beyond connecting to host..

    By Blogger Tiger, at 07:07  

  • hehe, worma, when you see it in slow motion for the second time, it seems different than when seen live.

    By Blogger Mock Turtle, at 07:08  

  • For those of you watching the game, notice how the last catch Karthik took very comforatably was in front of Dravid at first slip. The difference from the earlier catch was the better footwork enabling him to be in a better position to pouch it, rather than lunge for it.

    By Blogger Sahir, at 07:08  

  • tiger,
    there is a new link for today

    By Blogger Sahir, at 07:09  

  • tiger...what about now?...innings defeat?

    By Blogger worma, at 07:10  

  • tiger, not the same link as yesterday.. it is different

    What lunch did our players have yaar? coach's effect?

    By Blogger Raju, at 07:10  

  • An innings victory would be nice, 1 more wicket

    By Blogger Sahir, at 07:10  

  • DK catches them with his gloves facing sideways - is that the best technique?

    By Blogger Mock Turtle, at 07:10  

  • coach is rarely seen sitting with the team - he is mostly sitting separately with frazer

    By Blogger Mock Turtle, at 07:11  

  • Irfan to Mwayenga...

    By Blogger Sahir, at 07:12  

  • mock turtle,
    cathching them sideways (beside your body is the way they teach it in Aus, but not India (get behind it)

    By Blogger Sahir, at 07:13  

  • SG denied an innings victory - GC prevails!!!! ;-)

    By Blogger Mock Turtle, at 07:13  

  • Blignaut could have run three there

    By Blogger Sahir, at 07:14  

  • why s'd we consider blignaut as a steve waugh and spread the field when he plays? BS... in almost each innings, we zero in on one such 'great' batsman who cant get out..

    By Blogger Raju, at 07:15  

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