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Thursday, September 22, 2005

More of same

mock turtle, another of the regulars haunting this place, has given us this transcription of some of the post match comments today. Since it hasn't appeared in any of the match/series reports or analysis, and since we don't know what colour and shape it would take before making its way to the public, I am putting it here for us to see it for what it is.

Thanks a ton, mock.

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Gautam goes to Zaheer and talks about his bolwing today and he says that he discussed with "other players in the team" and decided to go round the wicket and that helped etc. and then says "i am happy i bowled well today and we won esp. since there has been a lot of negative going-ons(can't recall the exact word he used after negative...could be 'happening') in the dressing room for the past TWO MONTHS".
Then Gautam talks to GC and mentions Zaheer and GC says "yes, we discussed about his bowling round the wicket and that has helped him" Note that Zaheer did not say a word about GC and said "some players" helped him.

And when asked about Zaheer's comments about negative happenings, GC said he is disappoitned that players decide to talk about negative things instead of the positives and then some usual stuff about winning should be a habit etc. and that will remove all negativity.

After that, Gavaskar was asked by Harsha if he thinks any progress has been made on the captaincy conundrum and Gavaskar goes :there is no confusion, Ganguly is a good captain and we should continue with him etc.

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I think Zaheer (and also VVS earlier) may have been referring to the issue of their being dropped from the ODI team, apparently due to the selectors acting on coach's( or captain's) suggestions. And hence they felt that there was 'negative vibe' in the dressing room. Also, this is the issue which Harsha, and Rohit have referred in their recent articles...that its not fair on the whole selection process that the selectors leak the goings-on of the selectorial meetings to the concerned players...in terms of who suggested/recommended against them.

12 Comments:

  • i find it surprising that gavaskar would give such a comprehensive answer, considering that he is in the review commnitte

    By Blogger JD, at 13:40  

  • who is Gautam? Gautam Bhimani?
    And how is a coach suggesting that a player be dropped negative in any way? If ZK meant that GC asked tha he be dropped and if the selectors indeed leaked the news to him, I cant understand understand the feelings of ZK...

    By Blogger Toney, at 13:53  

  • toney..this is translation by mock...I think he didnt record...so did it from memory...and yes Gautam bhimani I presume...and umm...I think its negative in the sense that obviously GC/SG/management would have told the selector that the fitness/form/attitude of player a is not upto the notch..so he be dropped from the team (remember GC report after SL....media played on how he has reported negatively on some players)...I think if the player gets to know that someone in the management doesnt think he is upto the mark then there is a chance of taking it negatively (rationally he shouldn't....but then..)

    By Blogger worma, at 13:59  

  • Worma - r u sure mock turtle didnt make all this up? Are there others who saw this and can corroborate?

    By Blogger Tiger, at 14:36  

  • toney LOL :))..yeah that was my first thought too (and I did ask him if he was serious)...but from the account, it does seem to be genuine....though no one else (watching the game) has either confirmed or denied

    By Blogger worma, at 14:46  

  • hey...did you notice this statement from Pathan in his post match presentation interview However, Pathan conceded his side hadn't been on top of their game, despite the crushing margin of victory. "We bowled poorly and fielded not too well today but these things happen," he added. "I [will] leave it to the press to talk negatively about these things. They happen."

    By Blogger worma, at 14:50  

  • LOL
    Pathan certainly has a sense of humour. I think the entire Indian camp is having private laugh at the media's expense.

    By Blogger Mr. V, at 14:53  

  • LOL
    Pathan certainly has a sense of humour. I think the entire Indian camp is having private laugh at the media's expense.

    By Blogger Mr. V, at 14:53  

  • worma, saw this in cricinfo too. I am not sure Pathan said that. I heard the interview in bits and pieces. Maybe I am wrong. The other thing is, Pathan's English is broken. Wonder if the writer mis-interpreted a couple of the statements when noting down this part.

    By Blogger Toney, at 15:31  

  • yes toney...maybe so...even otherwise I dont think he would have said this too seriously...

    ...either way...doesn't mean much...except that the team is probably aware of the (sometimes over-)negative publicity they have recently been attracting...and, as mr v said, maybe in some lighter times, shared a joke or two about it in the dressing room.

    By Blogger worma, at 15:35  

  • (1) I am no journalist to twist facts and paint convenient pictures. I just typed what I saw post-match on ESPN/Star. Should be easy to corroborate? (esp. since many here have "direct" line to Harsha ;-) )

    (2) Zaheer was referring to GC, I felt. Because in that famous interview of SG by Harsha, Harsha asked him what he enjoyed of captaincy, - was it the power of being "in charge"? and SG replied with a laugh - "in charge? who? me? i am no longer in charge there" obviously, implying GC.

    (3) Yes, Gavaskar has been openly supportive of SG and has indicated this many times during the commentary. Shastri is the "neutral" party.

    (4) What is refreshing about Harsha Bhogle unlike the other journalists he maintains his sense of decency and class, even when critizing SG. He specifically mentioned how the media would view RD's innings in a different light and sing praises of it while discussing it with the Zimb commentator because of "off-field activities".

    (5) Another point that I noted is that Cricinfo quoted RD saying "Ian Frazer and GC have been working hard on our catching". I saw the interview with him and he clearly said "We have been working on our catching".

    Cricinfo is on a mission, obviously ;-)

    Worma, see you around when the next India match begins :)

    By Blogger Mock Turtle, at 19:29  

  • What about the captain equation now? If Sharad Pawar comes to power, is it possible that SRT be made the captain? I would like to see RD at the helm though. IMHO, SRT, being a rigid in ideas, would be a bad choice.

    SG's retention would depend on whether JD group could stay on power another term. Based on the reports coming out of Calcutta. more than likely Jaggu dada is on his way out. Probably, that will be a good thing for SG also, can work on his batting or just retire. I hate to see him getting bashed by the *stupid indian media* time and again who always see him in poor light, no matter what he does. Unfortunate, but we are good at demeaning people at the slightest opportunity, isn't it?

    By Blogger dapolice, at 20:37  

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